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  • in reply to: ted turner and carl sagan #55308
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    Robert Anton Wilson had a very low opinion of Carl Sagan.

    Just saying…

    Why?

    Ted Turner is a bit of a dolt, isn’t he?

    I got the impression that as Sagan talked Turner was singing the “Golden Grahams” tune in his head ala Homer Simpson.

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    R.A.Wilson was a quirky, ornery guy. He wrote quirky books attacking fundamentalist-religions, but he also wrote a book attacking ‘scientific fundamentalism’ (‘The New Inquisition”)

    He was very open to….oh, i think you like to call it “wooo” 🙂

    He thot of Sagan as a scientific fundamentalist. (I dont quite see Sagan that way myself, btw)

    R.A.Wilson was more of a Buckminster Fuller kinda sciency-guy, than a Carl Sagan kinda sciency-guy.

    In a nutshell, Wilson kinda sorta evaluated science-experts on a spectrum of how much ‘woo’ they were open to.

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    http://rawilson.com/trigger3.html
    “….Sagan’s hilarious theory of “nuclear winter.”* Briefly, Sagan’s theory holds that nuclear war could result, not just in the horrors we all know, but in a freeze that would probably abolish all life on this planet. (He published this notion in Parade, where his mass audience could see it and gasp.) His refusal to accept valid criticisms of this sci-fi story led to the following summary in Science, official journal of the American Association for the Advancement of Science, “News and Comments” section, Jan 16, 1987:

    Sagan’s refusal to acknowledge merit in the NCAR [National Center for Atmospheric Research]’s analysis — known as “nuclear autumn” — sends some people up the wall. One wall-climber is George Rathjens, professor of political science at M.I.T….”(Sagan’s) claim that the original nuclear winter model is unimpeached [he says]…is the greatest fraud we’ve seen in a long time”….Russell Seiz, a fellow at the Harvard Center for International Affairs…gibes at [Sagan and his co-authors] for mixing physics and advertising.

    Most scientists I have spoken to about Sagan share this dim view of his use of publicity to represent his pet notions as Scientific Truth even when — or especially when — a large segment of the scientific community has severe doubts about these notions.

    (Similarly, in Brocca’s Brain, Sagan rejects data on so-called “out of body experiences” among near-dead patients because — he says — nobody in that state has reported anything they couldn’t have heard while unconscious. But the literature of OOBE has hundreds of cases of such reports, including numerous incidents in which the subjects reported things in rooms far away from the operating room. Once again, we can only wonder if Sagan habitually lies through his teeth or just doesn’t read any of the literature on the subjects upon which he claims Expertese.)

    But returning to Dr. Velikovsky, and Sagan’s crusade against his ideas: … see link”

    in reply to: Groh has done a good job it seems coaching Britt & Quick #55277
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    “It seems to me that like Gurley, and like the OL, this CK/TA disconnect is a function of starting the season off out of sync. I am starting to get a theory in my head about why that is.”

    The move? Hard Knocks? A change of scheme? Immigrants? Lizard People?

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    in reply to: Gurley still has 'nowhere to run' #55276
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    Well that one was a ‘must read’ for sure.

    Is the Oline injured? Are they just bad? New blocking schemes they havent
    learned yet?

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    in reply to: Political comedy vidz #55256
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    in reply to: Political comedy vidz #55246
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    link:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrnW-eqNJDo

    Sorry this is an ongoing Ted Lecture Series on posting at the huddle.

    There are never problems with vids, just articles. So I took the “link” thing out this time.

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    Ha. I edited the ‘link’ back in before i saw you had edited it out.

    If that makes any sense.

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    in reply to: future electoral map? #55239
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    in reply to: When Trump wins #55234
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    I can see Obama getting us into a war with Russia during the interim.

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    I can not see that.

    The US does not pick on the big boys.

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    in reply to: Jill Stein Claims Clinton Is ‘Scarier’ Than Trump #55233
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    The liberal bias of NPR has been obvious for decades. Now the MSM has lost all pretense of objectivity. The MSM has fatally shot themselves in regards to public perception.

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    Based on what little ive seen of mainstream TV, I agree with qualifications — First, I dont call the MSM ‘liberal’, I call it “pro-corporate”.

    Now Fox News is part of the MSM. Fox News is “pro corporate”.
    MSNBC is part of the MSM. MSNBC is also “pro corporate”

    Practically ALLLL the MSM is “pro corporate”.

    Fox news is not ‘liberal’ right? MSNBC, is ‘pro-corporate-but-liberal’ (in a sense, and with regard to social issues as opposed to corporate-econ-issues.)

    Now with all that said, I DO agree that the NON-rightwing PART of the MSM (CBS, ABC, NBC, NPR, NYTIMES etc) are indeed totally in bed with Hillary. Its quite obvious and blatant, in my view.

    If I were a Trump fan, I’d hate the Non-Rightwing part of the MSM.

    ….you still think he’s gonna win?? It would certainly defy what the polls are saying. I gotta think Hillary has this one nailed down now. Granted i thot that before and Trump came back.
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    in reply to: future electoral map? #55232
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    From the Brits:

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    Well, I’ve seen enough old posters to know that American politics
    has beeen ‘debased’ since the beginning.

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    in reply to: Informal poll: can the Rams beat the Lions? #55212
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    No Quinn,
    no Win.

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    in reply to: offense, some stats, last 3 games #55205
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    Yeah, the offense is still mediocre I’d say, but its not the atrocity
    we were lookin at early on.

    Ugly wins. They just need to scratch out some ugly wins in this next stretch.
    And they might be able to pull it off if they dont throw Pick6’s and the D gets
    some turnovers.

    These next five games are all too close to call. 3-2 would be fine.

    Seems like Buffalo was more concerned about the pass than other teams. I suppose thats a good sign.

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    in reply to: Strong speech on women by Michelle Obama #55204
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    What do you think of this tactic by the Trump machine — linking Hillary to Beyonce and ‘vulgar’ lyrics — it did make me pause…

    Link;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN560VkUPNQ

    in reply to: Jill Stein Claims Clinton Is ‘Scarier’ Than Trump #55202
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    Stein realizes Trump is a statesman. While some here claim Trump will end the world and the human race, their chosen candidate Jill Stein disagrees with them. Crickets.

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    She didnt say Trump is a ‘statesman’ and i doubt she thinks that. She was talking about one particular issue — Russia/Syria. And she may be right about that, I’m not sure.
    In general though, I’m not sure which of the two bozos is more likely to cause a nuclear exchange. Hard to say.

    …I will add this, fwiw — ive been listening to NPR lately and they have totally lost all pretense of being ‘neutral’ about the Hillary v Trump thing. They are pretty obviously supporting Hillary now. They haven’t reached Fox-News-Level bias but they are getting close. Seems that way to me, anyway.

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    in reply to: future electoral map? #55197
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    Check out the Ben Carson comment and the look on the reporters face. Bout the 6:15 mark or so:

    link:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNs0J062SJE

    in reply to: future electoral map? #55195
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    How important is Pencil-vania ?

    Pretty important, apparently:
    link:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-9Vb-Xiw3g

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    The loss of Ngata is significant.

    The Lions injuries are kinda spread around though. Its not the same as losing three fourths of a DLine.

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    in reply to: Walking Dead season six #55172
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    The choices that Rick’s crew began to make were similar to what dumb victims do in slasher movies….

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    Yup. Exactly.

    One of my little nitpix btw, is this — and this exists in all six seasons — when they kill zombies, zombie blood flies all over the place. The humans are constantly being drenched in zombie blood — so how come that doesnt infect them and give them zombie-fever? I mean if they get bit, or scratched they get the fever, right– but not if they are literally drenched in zombie blood-spatter?

    I thought the best scenes in season six were very early on, when they showed the black-and-white images of all those zombies trapped in the canyon. I thought that was a pretty awesome visual.

    …tough job for a writer to do high-quality work season after season. I mean how many shows can you name that stayed good past five seasons? Not too many.

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    in reply to: Things All Women Do That You Don’t Know About #55155
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    Why is society so dismissive of sexual assault, our rape culture and women in general?
    Link: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/oct/13/donald-trump-assault-allegations-women-jill-harth?CMP=share_btn_tw

    Perhaps the media ignoring Bill Clinton raping and sexually assaulting women while Hildabeast went about destroying those same women had something to do with it?

    Or Bill Clinton getting oral sex in the Oval office from a 22 year old intern?

    Or how about Obama presenting his erection to the ladies in the press corps on his campaign jet?

    Or Michelle Obama inviting openly misogynist hip hop artists to the White House to perform and honor them?

    To insinuate anything about Trump is the height of hypocrisy.

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    Well, setting aside the Clinton/Trump thing (if thats possible) what about the points the article made. Do you agree with the writer or do you see it differently?

    Not everything is about Hillary. Or Bill. Or Obama. Or Trump. Right?

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    in reply to: Things All Women Do That You Don’t Know About #55140
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    I agree with all that.

    I also agree that its hard to ‘get that across’ to men. For all kinds of reasons
    its a hard dynamic to communicate to men.

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    in reply to: LePage says Trump needs to use 'authoritarian' power #55139
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    One wonders just how LaPage got elected in Maine. Looks like, in part, it was cause his opponents split the vote.

    Not in part, fully.

    LePage got 37% of the vote.

    The math is easy.

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    did he get 37 percent the second time he ran?

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    in reply to: LePage says Trump needs to use 'authoritarian' power #55085
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    One wonders just how LaPage got elected in Maine. Looks like, in part, it was cause his opponents split the vote.
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    How the confounding victory of Maine’s Paul LePage helps explain the national GOP wave.

    By Colin Woodard

    November 05, 2014

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/11/paul-lepage-craziest-governor-reelection-112583#ixzz4MuMGEPt7
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    For years now, whenever someone would draw up a list of the most vulnerable incumbent governors in the country, Maine’s Paul LePage would be right near the top. Pugnacious, hot-headed, and occasionally vulgar, LePage was consistently underwater with his approval ratings, especially after he would make national headlines for telling the state chapter of the NAACP to kiss his butt or television viewers everywhere that a Democratic state senator always wanted to “give it to the people without Vaseline.”

    And then there was last week’s kerfuffle over an Ebola quarantine that saw the governor lose a stare-down with a bicycling nurse.

    National pundits thought the Republican—an extreme conservative in a famously moderate state—had little chance of being reelected, particularly as he had won office the first time with less than 38 percent of the vote when he narrowly defeated a little-known independent in a five-way contest at the height of the Tea Party wave in 2010.

    Yet yesterday, LePage won reelection by about four points—the final results aren’t yet in—defeating a popular six-term congressman, Mike Michaud.

    Even on a night when voters from east to the west, in just about every time zone, elected new Republican leaders—and even on a night when Republicans won more gubernatorial races than expected—Paul LePage’s victory confounds at first glance.

    How on earth did one of America’s least popular and most divisive governors get reelected?

    Half of the answer is the same way LePage won in 2010, by his opponents splitting the vote between candidates. Eliot Cutler, the lawyer and one-time Carter administration official who nearly beat him in 2010, ran again, this time much less successfully, and polls indicated that about two-thirds of his supporters would otherwise back Michaud.

    Polling in the low teens in the final weeks of the campaign, Cutler was under enormous pressure to bow out, especially after the Republican Governors Association started buying ads promoting his candidacy in strategic effort to undermine Michaud. But at a hastily-organized press conference Oct. 29, Cutler sent mixed messages, defiantly proclaiming he would stay in while noting that he had little chance of winning and that, therefore, was urging his supporters to vote for one of his rivals if “compelled by their fears or by their conscience.” The message was so muddled the campaign had to release a FAQ to explain what the candidate had and had not said, but that didn’t stop some of his most prominent supporters—like popular two-term governor and current U.S. Sen. Angus King—to publically switch their endorsements Michaud.
    Paul LePage’s Greatest Hits

    “Sen. Jackson claims to be for the people, but he’s the first one to give it to the people without providing Vaseline.” To WMTW-TV in Portland, Maine

    “If you want a good education, go to private schools. If you can’t afford it, tough luck. You can go to the public school.” At an education panel hosted by a community college

    “And as your governor, you’re gonna be seeing a lot of me on the front page saying ‘Gov. LePage tells Obama to go to hell.’” During his 2010 campaign

    “What I am trying to say is the Holocaust was a horrific crime against humanity and, frankly, I would never want to see that repeated. Maybe the IRS is not quite as bad—yet.” To Vermont’s 7 Days

    In the end, over 8 percent of voters cast ballots for Cutler, sealing Michaud’s fate.

    But a third-party spoiler only got LePage part of the way back to Blaine House, the historic Maine governor’s mansion. After all, for most of his time in office, LePage’s job approval rating was in the mid-to-high thirties as his administration tangled first with the Republican legislative leaders (who refused to back his plan to roll all environmental laws back to weaker federal standards in 2010), then with Democratic ones (before whom the governor banned his commissioners from appearing). The governor had become a national joke, and many Mainers had come to regard him as an embarrassment.

    It’s the other half of the answer to LePage’s reelection that helps explain the GOP’s remarkable success in races across the country: A disciplined campaign, a socially conservative and economic-focused message, and surprisingly strong rural turnout boosted by local issues. Add to that a touch of the national unease and unhappiness with Barack Obama—who won Maine in 2008 and 2012, both times by nearly 15 points—and you have all the ingredients for a national GOP wave that dwarfed even some of the most optimistic party projections.

    It turns out that many Mainers embraced the key goals of LePage’s governorship: cutting taxes, environmental and labor regulations, welfare services, and public spending—supposedly among the principal obstacles to improving the state’s economy, which has been sluggish for the past 150 years or so. He’s delivered on many of those promises, signing a $150 million tax cut, the largest in state history, which reduced the top income tax rate and doubled the estate tax exemption from $1 million to $2 million. He refused to expand Medicaid, vetoing five legislative bills to do so, imposed a five-year limit on welfare benefits, and vigorously investigated welfare fraud and abuse—allegedly to stop Maine from being a welfare “destination state.” He also repealed laws restricting big box stores and mining.

    Despite his potty mouth, he’s also attractive to social conservatives, who appreciate his opposition to abortion and same-sex marriage, which distinguished him from both his rivals. His life story is also appealing to many: the eldest of 18 in an impoverished working class family, he ran away from an abusive father at age 11, lived on the streets for a time, and with the help of a sequence of benign businesspeople, succeeded in going to college and become a successful manager. When charged with fighting a war on the poor, he is able to argue he knew more about being poor than most of his critics.

    He also managed to keep himself in check in recent months, avoiding major gaffes and confrontations and even joking about his past indiscretions, saying at one debate “ even a Frenchman can be taught to cool down.” One of his campaign’s slogans was “actions speak louder than words.” In debates and public appearances he appeared relaxed, confident, and unbowed. Nationally, Republicans followed his lead; after tossing away chances in recent years with comments like Todd Akin’s “legitimate rape” explanation, there was hardly a word nationally off-message.

    Then there’s the unusually high turnout yesterday—perhaps as high as 60 percent—which benefited the governor. This may have been prompted by a pressing public policy issue: whether Mainers should be prevented from feeding donuts to bears. A campaign to ban the practice of baiting bears with pastries and other garbage—and then letting hunters shoot them—may have mobilized large numbers of rural voters who tend to appreciate hunting and the “plain spoken” LePage. (The ballot measure was defeated, by the way, by some five points—about the same as LePage’s margin of victory.)

    Democrats had hoped their nominee, Mike Michaud, would have been able to eat into LePage’s base in the mill towns and rural settlements that comprise much of interior Maine. Michaud, after all, was a mill worker himself, and drove a forklift on a paper mill floor until only a few years ago. A native of small paper mill town built in the forests of northern Maine, Michaud never attended college, but managed to become the president of the state senate and a six-term congressman representing the more rural “have not” of the state’s two congressional districts.

    But Michaud is a poor public speaker and gave uninspiring performances in televised debates. He also came out as gay early in the campaign and, in contrast to his earlier positions when he was a state legislator, supports abortion rights and same-sex marriage. All of this may have played a role in his subpar performance in many of the communities that had sent him to Congress by wide margins, even against conservative challengers. Early this morning, the Associated Press called his empty House seat for Bruce Poliquin, an arch-conservative LePage ally who didn’t even live in the district until the campaign began.

    And finally, LePage had the national tide in his favor, which swept away Democrats across the country, and gave the GOP a new toehold in New England. Republicans also seized control of the Maine state senate yesterday and made gains in the house, just two years after being swept from both chambers. “What we’ve done tonight in America transcends me and every other governor,” LePage said in his victory speech a few hours ago. “What it is, it’s about the American people. We have spoken. We’ve said enough is enough.”

    Apparently not in Maine’s case. Voters here have decided they haven’t yet had enough of Paul LePage.

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/11/paul-lepage-craziest-governor-reelection-112583#ixzz4MuLjWPpr

    link:http://theramshuddle.com/topic/lepage-says-trump-needs-to-use-authoritarian-power/#new-post

    in reply to: Can this team win without Quinn? #55076
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    Does anyone know WHY Quinn didnt play? Is it the back again?

    It’s not the back.

    Quinn is listed with a shoulder injury, one he suffered Sunday before re-entering the game.

    http://theramshuddle.com/search/%5C%22injury+report%5C%22/

    And to answer the question, can they win without Quinn?

    Quinn went out last year after the Chicago game. That was week 10.

    The defense wasn’t the same, but whether they won depended on a lot of things, including who the qb was. So after he went out, they lost the Baltimore game with Keenum and then lost Keenum. Two more games, Foles was the qb and they lost both, in hyper miserable, beat down fashion.

    Keenum came back in week 14. And then interestingly they won against Detroit without Quinn. As you know at that point, including the Lions game, they went 3-1.

    So with Keenum but without Quinn they went 3-2. That includes a win in Seattle.

    It’s not ideal but they can apparently dial up enough to win some. But needless to say it’s better with Quinn.

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    Well, what about Quinn AND/OR Brockers And/or Hayes playing hurt.

    Can they win then?

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    in reply to: Can this team win without Quinn? #55061
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    No.

    That Buff loss really hurts. 4-1 would have given us some breathing room.

    If Quinn, Brockers and Hayes are still out, then we will lose at Detroit. This D line is too important. Losing Tru just makes it worse. Stafford will eat our lunch if we can’t pressure him.

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    Yeah, and its not whether Q, B and H “play” or not. Its whether they are healthy and play. We all remember how ineffective Q was when he played hurt last year.

    Does anyone know WHY Quinn didnt play? Is it the back again?

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    in reply to: Can this team win without Quinn? #55057
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    not consistently.

    not consistently enough to make the playoffs.

    probably another 7 win season without him.

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    Yeah, thats how it looks to me too.

    Can you imagine, how the fans will feel if they win 7 again 🙂

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    in reply to: Stein rebuffs Gore and ranked choice voting #55053
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    Interesting. So, Papua New Guinea has a better system than the US.

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    “….IRV has the effect of avoiding split votes when multiple candidates earn support from like-minded voters. For example, suppose there are two similar candidates A & B, and a third opposing candidate C, with vote totals of 35% for candidate A, 25% for B and 40% for C. In a plurality voting system, candidate C may win with 40% of the votes, even though 60% of electors prefer either A or B. Alternatively, voters are pressured to choose the seemingly stronger candidate of either A or B, despite personal preference for the other, in order to help ensure the defeat of C. With IRV, the electors backing B as their first choice can rank A second, which means candidate A will win by 60% to 40% over C despite the split vote in first choices.

    Instant-runoff voting is used in national elections in several countries. For example, it is used to elect members of the Australian House of Representatives and most Australian state legislatures,[1] the President of India, members of legislative councils in India, the President of Ireland,[2] and the parliament in Papua New Guinea. The system is also used in local elections around the world, as well as by some political parties (to elect internal leaders) and private associations. IRV is described in Robert’s Rules of Order Newly Revised (under the name “preferential voting”).[3]

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    link:http://articles.latimes.com/2011/dec/07/nation/la-na-evangelical-warming-20111207

    Spreading the global warming gospel
    A climatologist in West Texas takes on skeptics with scientific data — and her own faith as an evangelical Christian.

    December 07, 2011|
    By Neela Banerjee, Los Angeles Times

    Reporting from Lubbock, Texas

    When Katharine Hayhoe was faced with telling a group of petroleum engineers in the heart of the Texas oil patch that the main culprit for climate change is humanity’s consumption of fossil fuels, she expected pushback.

    “Aren’t you scientists just in this for the money?” one older man asked — the latest insult after a string of anonymous emails asserting that she and other climatologists were corrupt liars.

    Most climatologists refuse to answer skeptics, preferring to let the research speak for itself. Hayhoe is one of a small but growing number of scientists willing to engage climate change doubters face to face. Unlike most of her colleagues, she is driven as much by the tenets of her faith as the urgency of the science.

    A rising star among climatologists, Hayhoe, the daughter of missionaries, is also an evangelical Christian. Though the science supporting climate change grows ever more compelling, fewer Americans now accept the scientific consensus than they did three years ago. No group is more resistant than political conservatives, especially white evangelical Christians, who often say that climate change is a hoax.

    Besides teaching at Texas Tech in Lubbock, conducting research and writing, Hayhoe meets with Christian colleges, church groups, senior citizens, professional associations and just about anyone else to explain that Earth’s climate is changing and that human beings are behind it.

    Like any climatologist, she is armed with data. Yet Hayhoe also speaks of climate change in a language to which conservative Christians can relate, about protecting God’s creation and loving one’s neighbors. Hayhoe is a climate change evangelist in the West Texas Bible Belt, compelled by her faith to protect the least among us by sharing what she knows, even if it’s science that many around her reject.

    “People ask me if I believe in global warming. I tell them, ‘No, I don’t,’ because belief is faith; faith is the evidence of things not seen,” Hayhoe said. “Science is evidence of things seen. To have an open mind, we have to use the brains that God gave us to look at the science,” she said.

    Hayhoe, who serves as a reviewer for the main United Nations report on climate change, focuses her work on understanding and communicating the complex effects expected from climate change.

    “She is perhaps the best communicator on climate change,” said John Abraham, associate professor of thermal sciences at the University of St. Thomas and founder of the Climate Science Rapid Response Team, an information clearinghouse.

    One brisk, windy morning recently, Hayhoe took the stage at Wayland Baptist University, a small school about an hour from Lubbock.

    “We have parents and communities who have a natural tendency to distrust science, and that’s unfortunate,” said Herbert Grover, dean of Wayland’s school of math and science. “We asked Katharine to come because we wanted to take full advantage of her credentials as a scientist and as a Christian.”

    She tells the 300 students in sweats and Uggs that even if they ignore thermometers, scientists and data, they can still see the impact of climate change beyond their windows. An epic drought has gripped Texas, with climate change likely worsening the low rainfall that comes with the La Nina weather pattern in the region.

    “A one- or two-degree increase in the world’s temperature may not seem like much,” she tells the students in the chilly auditorium, most paying attention rather than sleeping or texting. “But think of your own body when your temperature goes up by one and a half degrees. It means you’re getting sick.”

    Hayhoe, 39, moved to Texas six years ago when her husband, Andrew Farley, was hired as a professor of linguistics at Texas Tech and as pastor of Ecclesia, a small evangelical church in Lubbock. Brought in to Texas Tech’s geoscience department, Hayhoe now teaches in the political science department, because, she said, “climate change is a very political science in West Texas.”

    A Canadian, Hayhoe’s first efforts as a climate change evangelist focused on her skeptic husband: Like many American evangelicals, Farley grew up thinking that environmentalism was a leftist cause. “I saw climate change as the same as saving the whales, hugging trees and wearing hemp,” he said.

    As Hayhoe’s reputation grew, several of Farley’s close friends voiced disapproval of her research, and he raised objections too. To answer Farley’s questions, Hayhoe showed him data that reveal, for instance, how Earth’s temperature has risen markedly after the Industrial Revolution — as the combustion of fossil fuels grew.

    Hayhoe’s success in changing other minds has been uneven.

    Her book for evangelicals, “A Climate for Change,” sells tepidly because Christian bookstores won’t stock it. At a senior citizen center in Lubbock, a man shaking with rage shouted an expletive-studded monologue about how the greenhouse effect doesn’t exist. At a talk for Texas Tech business school students, her arguments were simply dismissed. At the end of any given talk, perhaps one person might tell Hayhoe she’s convinced him of the scientific consensus on global warming.

    Lately, though, something may have shifted. At a recent talk at Wayland Baptist, no one was rude, and Rick Ross, a 21-year-old math major, told Hayhoe she had inspired him to “go out and do something.”

    Hayhoe was surprised. “What was that all about?” she said to Grover, her host, as they gathered her things after her last talk of the day. “Nobody challenged me? Maybe those people didn’t come.”

    neela.banerjee@latimes.com

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    Well, i dont think i need to explain to anyone what will happen
    if the Rams have to play with a backup-QB, three limping DLinemen and only one starting caliber CB.

    I think we’d best savor this winning record while we can. 🙂

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