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wvParticipantI like where this O is going and believe when Goff is ready to step in he’s gonna have an O that is ready. Starting him day 1 made no sense…that was the right call by Fish, and not a surprise since he’s done it before.
The D is a different story, IMO. They really aren’t attacking the QB like they have. I’m seeing more cover 2 than I have seen from GW.
I think he is attempting to cover for areas…first EJ was down and Sensabough was starting outside Tru…well, we know he wasn’t hangin then when EJ comes back Tru get’s hurt. So…are the DB’s hurting this group? I say yes and that’s the reason GW is reluctant to throw the sink at the QB.
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Yeah i agree with that.…and i dont even wanna think about how bad Goff woulda looked if he had been in that 49er game.
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wvParticipantIf Jesus is real then why is there so much misery in the world? If there is a loving god, then explain the Rams.
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“If there is a god, he will have to beg my forgiveness.”
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Look dont blame Jesus for everything. Remember, the Devil is responsible for calling a lot of the plays.
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“We have never heard the devil’s side of the story, God wrote all the book.”
― Anatole France
wvParticipantTypical scriptural fundamentalist. You take a text from the Apocrypha, and twist its meaning.
Jesus did NOT say the kingdom is inside the tackles, or outside the tackles.
He said inside of you, or outside of you.
Plainly, he meant that the Touchdown is both Inside you, and Outside you. It’s a state of mind AND a place.
He never said anything about how to reach the end zone kingdom. Well, he did. But not in Thomas.
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You are saying Jesus never said anything about how to reach the end zone ?Then why does Fisher even pray to him?
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Jesus Quintana: Let me tell you something, pendejo. You pull any of your crazy shit with us, you flash a piece out on the lanes, I’ll take it away from you, stick it up your ass and pull the fucking trigger ’til it goes “click.”The Dude: Jesus.
Jesus Quintana: You said it, man. Nobody fucks with the Jesus.
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wvParticipantBack to the point I made somewhere else that you guys are too idiotic to realize was the Holy Truth…
The Rams haven’t been able to run up the middle all year.
Ya run ANY play at ALL except up the middle right there….And Jesus would agree with me, although I’ve heard he is more of a basketball guy…with Jews being so naturally shifty, and everything.
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Well, in the Gospel of Thomas, Jesus clearly states one can reach the ‘kingdom’ by going outside OR inside.“The Kingdom is inside of you and it is outside of you.” ~Gospel of Thomas
So the notion that Fisher is a heretic for attempting an offtackle play, and should be burned at the stake, flies right in the face of the scriptures.
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“Scrutamini scripturas. [let us look at the scriptures] Two words that have undone the world.”
John Selden (1584-1654)
wvParticipantI think it was a perfectly reasonable call to try to power the ball in
from six inches away.But myself, i woulda let Keenum roll out with a run/pass option. Gurley woulda bee a decoy.
I would never trust the interior of the Rams OLine at this point.I cant picture bill Walsh calling an offtackle play in that situation, btw.
Or Jesus, for that matter.
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wvParticipantThat is interesting.
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Yeah Keenum doesnt have the quick release coupled with the big-arm to throw darts into tight windows consistently.And no, he’s not a franchise starting NFL QB.
But I think its worth remembering he’s still really inexperienced. I mean how many actual NFL games has he played? And how many in this system? He’s still learning and getting comfortable and getting the timing down. You can see him growing from week to week.
And man, IF HE HAS TIME, he can toss a beautiful rainbow. And he’s tough, and competitive.Jeff Garcia-ish.
Goff Time will come. And then we’ll see the future. But for now, Keenum is what we got.
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wvParticipantI’ve still only watched the first half, but i wanted to say something about Mr Britt — He’s arrived.
I swear, I’ve never thought he used his power/strength in the past. But in that first he finally looked like a guy that played to his size. And he did some subtle things too. Like the way he caught a long pass but didnt give away when the ball was coming to him. He just let it drop right in his breadbasket. Ala, Roberto Clemente.
Even Quick made a tough catch without bobbling the ball or fighting it. If these two keep gaining confidence, it will be fun to watch.
Who knows what Spruce and Cooper would add to that.
Granted the Lions suck on D, but still this is how players gain confidence
and we know Quick has confidence issues.Anyway think how far the offense has come sine the forty-niner game. Think about that.
I dont think they have ‘that’ far to go now. Just a ‘little’ more improvement in the run game and one fewer bonehead throws by Case per game… course now, the defense is Quinn-less and Tru-less….so there’s that.
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Those 2 receptions and the aftermath were very impressive
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Yeah, i saw those. Great stuff. That was as good a game by a Ram WR as i can remember, since….?
We all know he’s not a route-runner like, say, Torry, but now that he has a QB who can throw deep, I think we are seeing Britt’s value more.
I dunno where you came from, btw, but you are a great poster. I read all your posts. Stick around. This is a small group of outcasts and misfits we have here, but
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wvParticipantI thought this was an interesting view of Keenum, by brownsugar.
Fwiw, I thought Keenum just showed awesome accuracy on the long ball yesterday.
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Keenum is not making the quick throws in to 2 ultra tight contested windows that the modern offense requires. Against the ultra soft Lion defense he was awesome until the last throw. And, He ‘set up’ every play in the Detroit game…at an Manning-like level. But, Detroit doesn’t have a typical defense…so, so bad…and bad coverage LB etc.So, against teams like AZ and Seattle and the Vikings Case will not get those chances very often….and the throws at 2.3 seconds with tight windows are not even attempted in this offense, because that isn’t Case’s game—nor is it our WRs strengths (Britt is ok at this as compared to Jordy Nelson, for ex) ; but tight windows are Goff’s specialty—and that is a red zone expertise. Case can’t do that, and so he has to wait for guys to get open or be open 5 yards off the line of scrimmage—which sometimes fails, too (see Buffalo int). Case is a great college QB…or a great 1970s offense QB. But, in our era, with these fast defenses, Case will get old fast in the coming weeks.
Fran Tarkenton had the same problem his last 2 years (1978-79) that Case has . Tarkenton threw a lot of interceptions (25+ ints) because his arm couldn’t get in to any tight windows—he had a noodle arm at age 39 with 185 lbs (estimates). Tarkenton actually ran the first spread offense in the NFL—guys were wide open a lot because no one saw that kind of offense before. This is kinda like Case in the Detroit game…..guys running with 2 steps on the defender, and this is very rare in the NFL. DOn’t expect that type of game the rest of the year from Case…..or Britt/Kendricks. That is why SF beat us—they knew what to avoid, and Case didn’t have confidence (“seeing ghosts”winking smiley.
My goal is to be objective, not homerish.
Our offense won’will get better. Tavon still will improve and so will Gurley. And, IF Higbee ever starts doing something then Kendricks will really be open a lot. Britt however will be stopped….and though he is a physical freak, technique can stop that pretty easily. Quick is getting better, but come on, all those patterns in the Detroit game were great run after catch situations (yac), not great patterns….Quick might become good, but he has a long way to go. Britt has 3 patterns he runs very well, the 9, the seam-corner and the quick slant….he isn’t a Torry Holt pattern runner….and a good corner can take out those pretty easily (Janoris couln’t handle the 9 very well). Speaking of Janoris: wow, we need this game, and we need to beat him on those 9s!!!! Fisher I am sure has a special plan to confuse Janoris on assignments to get Britt 1 step past him…
On the other hand, I am excited for Britt to get to 1,000 yards! That would be the my biggest surprise of the year….he was this awesome in 2011 before his knee injury. His physical skill is not surprising.
wvParticipantI got to give it to WVU. They are playing well. Undefeated and all. I saw they were talking about them slot on ESPN, but the problem the announcers said was will they take an undefeated Big XII team over a one loss Louisville team? I think the Big XII needs Baylor and WVU to finish undefeated before playing each other. Need them undefeated going into that game. Do you think that your school can keep it up?
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I dont take them seriously, Jack. I expect them to be playing some 7-9-bullshit
very soon.They aint played anybody yet.
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wvParticipantI thought the running game looked just fine in the first half. Havent watched the second half.
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Also…Jack called you out in a post below. It’s high noon. Time to face the music. When the going gets tough, the tough use tenderizer.
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Well I’m sticking to the lone gunman theory.
…I think its pretty obvious they were un-gelled at the beginning of the year,
and now they are getting in sync. I think the offense will be fine. They are healthy and improving. And this is with a backup QB. Seems encouraging to me.You already know what i think of the D — Without Quinn and Tru, its gonna be a struggle.
GW is gonna have to create pressure somehow and thats gonna lead to big running lanes.Brockers and Hayes looked terrible to me, btw. I dont think they should have even played.
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wvParticipantThat was good.
Case had such a good game — until it counted, in the clutch.
They were gonna have to complete a medium pass at some point, but
I woulda preferred he hit the open RB on that play, and then spike the ball.
They didnt need a TD. They had plenty of time to get in legatron’s range.I just think they got a tad impatient.
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wvParticipantI am now completely convinced of this, even though it wasn’t the running game that improved, it was the passing game.
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I thought the running game looked just fine in the first half. Havent watched the second half.w
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wvParticipantWell, I’m getting fed up, too. Apart from 99-03, this team has pretty much sucked for 25 years…
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Yeah this was a big loss for a lot of fans. For various reasons this one really had
an impact on a lot of fans.….this would NOT be a good time to lay an egg in London. Ya know.
W.Hayes said they ‘played soft’ all over the field Sunday. He said they were not ‘flat’ but they played ‘soft’. I would think that probly means they are gonna come out chippy and furious against NYG. For better or worse, i think it will be a chippy, ugly, physical War.
They are NOT gonna be ‘soft’ next week. …i look for Sims to get tossed out early 🙂w
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wvParticipantI’ve still only watched the first half, but i wanted to say something about Mr Britt — He’s arrived.
I swear, I’ve never thought he used his power/strength in the past. But in that first he finally looked like a guy that played to his size. And he did some subtle things too. Like the way he caught a long pass but didnt give away when the ball was coming to him. He just let it drop right in his breadbasket. Ala, Roberto Clemente.
Even Quick made a tough catch without bobbling the ball or fighting it. If these two keep gaining confidence, it will be fun to watch.
Who knows what Spruce and Cooper would add to that.
Granted the Lions suck on D, but still this is how players gain confidence
and we know Quick has confidence issues.Anyway think how far the offense has come sine the forty-niner game. Think about that.
I dont think they have ‘that’ far to go now. Just a ‘little’ more improvement in the run game and one fewer bonehead throws by Case per game… course now, the defense is Quinn-less and Tru-less….so there’s that.
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wvParticipant2 big penalties on that Detroit drive… The offside that you noted and the PI.
Both on 3rd and long…
It is bad enough when a team converts on 3rd and long… but when aided by a penalty, it’s just a killer…
I’m optimistic… offense is clicking….
Rams need better pass pressure next week to give the secondary a chance against the NYG receivers…..
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I watched the first half (thanks to brownsugar) and it looked like two good offenses, and two bad defenses. Coulda gone either way.
Hill looked like a weak link the Lions were picking on, but man, EJ Gaines just looked awful on the TD catch in the first half.
That fourth and one call, brought back flashbacks of a game against the Vikes
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wvParticipantThis loss has really affected a lot of fans. I think that 3-1 start they had,
had a lot of folks starting to wonder if this could finally be the year they turned the corner,
and then the Buffalo loss, and this Detroit thing — really stung a lot of people. SOSAR. Same Ole Sorry Ass Fisher.They are mad as hell and they aint gonna take it anymore 🙂
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wvParticipantI expected the Rams D to give up a lot of points if Quinn didnt play.
I think i predicted they’d give up over 30. To me, losing Quinn is not just “an injury”.
Its a HUGE injury.Listen to Aaron Donald:
“We can’t get to the quarterback,” Aaron Donald said, shaking his head. “He’s back there all day, passing the ball, making plays.”
Fisher and GW and Boras have quite a challenge ahead of them. I dont ‘believe’ in them and i haven’t ‘given up on them’ yet. I’m just kinda…sittin here….waiting….like at the end of the movie “The Thing.”
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wvParticipantGlad you had a good time at the fall festival. I love festivals, myself.
I was thinking of going to the “7 and 9 Bullshit Festival” this year, but
i couldn’t afford the tickets.I went last year though, and I thoroughly enjoyed the “Teacup Defense Ride”,
I ‘get’ the disappointment/anger and the giving-up-on-Fisher thing. I totally get that.
Perfectly reasonable reaction in my view.But for me, 3-3 is a lot different than 8-8. There’s still a LOT of time for improvement.
And for Quinn to come back.Remember they have played all six games with a back-up QB. No other team is doing that.
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wvParticipantYeah it was definitely the best part of that game.
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wvParticipantthey should have won. end of. three fourth down conversions. the lions won on two attempts. the rams lost on theirs. that turned out to be three tds. dumb penalties continually bit them in the ass throughout the game. no. no excuses this time.
they finally got some receivers and a solid qb. but this team is dumb and undisciplined. they should be ashamed.
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Could be, but Wildcard-level teams always have flaws. They are not really competing against the elite teams — they are competing against the other wildcard-level teams. Teams like…the Lions…the Giants.There’s still time for them to improve and make a run.
Big, painful loss though, for sure.
Fisher will probly tell them “its a new season, we are zero and zero” etc.
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wvParticipantI just think this is a 7 win team without Q.
Today I think it’s more Johnson than Quinn. They have won before without Quinn. But with Johnson out, the D deteriorates more. With them BOTH playing they could win almost any game.
I know some will say that the pass rush helps the secondary but today what I saw was CB play falling below the Rams standard far more than you would expect.
Last year they went 3-2 with Keenum at qb, and Johnson playing but no Quinn.
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Well when i say they “cant win” without Q, i dont mean that literally. I know they can scratch out some wins, like they did last year. But they are just a “seven and nine” type team without quinn imho. Maybe eight and eight.With Q (and yes TruJo) they are a wildcard team.
You know three and three at this early stage, is not that bad. I’ve seen some boards where you’d think the four horseman of the Apocalypse had just rode in to town.
They are now one game out of the last Wildcard spot. With ten games to play.
Giants are 3-3. Rams are 3-3. Big game. Again.
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wvParticipantThe Defense imho, has never been scary without Quinn AND Donald,
as I’ve said a gazillion times.Without their best CB, and without the dynamic duo of Q and AD — the D failed.
I just think this is a 7 win team without Q.
But who knows. They might surprise me. Hope so.
They are still in the playoff race, obviously. 3-3 is not the end
of the world 🙂 Neither is 3-4.3-5 would be the end of the World though. Just so you know.
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wvParticipantWe are dead.
We are dead at our own hands, bowing down at the Temple of Greed.
Ayn Rand must be so proud.
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I hope someone does an art-project depicting Hillary’s “public face”
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wvParticipantBoy that game-ending INT was a bad one. Ah well.
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wvParticipantWell at least Hayes and Brockers are playing. But then we dont know
how effective they will be if they are playing hurt.No Tru, no Q. I dunno.
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wvParticipantI consider myself an everyday american (especially when it comes to flossing, and by that I mean once every two weeks).
Did you know that Long-tailed macaques floss regularly at a buddhist temple:
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wvParticipantGood. I think thats a good fit for them. I usually dont much like moves, but I’d actually like to see this one.
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wvParticipantYeah, i think that too, but I’m not sure. Time will tell, as you noted.
Of course what i AM sure about is that the Football Godz hate the Rams.
Thus, as soon as the Ram Offense began improving Hayes-Quinn-Brockers got hurt,
and Tru got the high-ankle thing.So, i expect the Offense to put up 30 soon, and the D to allow 35.
The Godz insist on 7-9-Bullshit.
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wvParticipantI actually believe that the United States and Russia are very close to war.
At this point I’d be more surprised if they didn’t have some sort of conflict. Whether it’s the Ukraine, missile shields in Europe or the war in Syria, there are so many hot spots right now, I can’t imagine those plates keep spinning.
Add to that the cyberattacks and the United States vow to respond, the personal animosity between Putin and Clinton, and you have a recipe for conflict.
I think it’s going to happen. How long it goes, how limited it will be, I don’t know.
And I hope I’m wrong.
But beyond that–when Trump loses the election I wouldn’t be surprised to see white nationalists try to start a race war here or create some sort of anarchy.
I try to be the optimist(except with the Rams, of course)but I think there are some dark times ahead.
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Nah, wont happen. The US does not get into shooting wars with
countries that have large amounts of nukes.There will be a lot of nasty talk and agitations and blustering,
but there wont be any War. Not with Russia.w
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