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wvParticipantOK but how many of those offenses also had a good passing attack? Probably all of those teams did. One dimensional offenses don’t win today.
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Well, the Rams run a zero-dimensional offense, right now.
They dont even have one dimension.
They are undimensional.
Even quantum physicists dont understand NO-dimensional offenses.
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wvParticipant28 to nothing. Jeezus H christ.
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10 punts, and 2 interceptions.
Remember when we were laughing because the Rams didn’t need to waste a roster spot with a punter?
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Ten Punts and Two INTs — AND 49er PLAYERS complaining that they “thought the Rams would play better.”
And this was the OPENER. Fisher had all that time to study, think, develop a plan, prepare….
28 to Zero.
Against Gabbert.
With everyone healthy.
Winter is coming.
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vSeptember 15, 2016 at 10:30 am in reply to: Informal poll… will the Rams rebound against Seattle? #52990
wvParticipantI just have no idea. At all. No hunch of any kind.
I don’t recall ever being completely baffled like this before. I feel like I just came out of a coma after 15 years, and I’m being told the Rams are playing, and I don’t know a single player.
But as inexplicable as that first game was, I do know that the Rams aren’t that bad. They just aren’t. So I guess if by “rebound,” we mean “play better,” yes, I expect we will see more of a fight. Whether or not that “fight” lasts four quarters, I have no guess.
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Ditto Zooey
We will know more after 2/16ths of the season is over.
But really, 3/16ths…will…tell us even more.
0 and 3 = very bad
I hope i haven’t confused Ag with my complex algebra.
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vSeptember 15, 2016 at 10:08 am in reply to: Keyshawn Johnson: "Fisher was forced to draft Goff" #52985
wvParticipantSorry Mike, however you justify it, it is only hearsay. I think Fisher will lie to anybody.
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I dunno, but I believe Silver. Even though he’s a F.O.F.
I dont think Kronky gets involved with personnel issues on the football team. I think Kronky leaves that to the people he hires.
Kronky gets involved in billion dollar real estate bizness. I dont think he gives a shit about who the Rams draft.
(I ‘do’ think Kronky wants to ‘win’ and all, but i dont think he interferes in personnel decisions)He just doesnt strike me as a Jerry Jones type.
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wvParticipantYou’re being hyperskeptical. We’ve seen enough games to know that Scientology is true.
Assuming, of course, that its major human rights abuses were just due to injuries.
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Keyshawn has clearly, and indisputably Tweeted
that you and Nittany AND Mike Silver were forced
to defend Scientology.Moreover, Clayton and other really important people,
have tweeted that it was Kronky himself who wanted a scientologist QB,
who would stir up interest in California — but the ‘equipment manager’
who actually runs the entire corporotacracy nixed the idea, for unknown reasons.28 to nothing. Jeezus H christ.
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wvParticipantI got no opinion on anything
till i see a couple more games.That goes for all issues, btw. Race, gender, politics, Game of Thrones,
The Kardashians, Global Warming, Scientology, Monsanto, Zooey’s dummer Brother, Wood Stoves, Vaccinations, False Flags, Jesus, Concussions,
Electric Football, Raisin Toast, Terrorism, tapirs…..doesnt matter. I have no opinion until i see a couple more games.w
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wvParticipantI’d say that was a 28 to nuthin, beat-down, right there.
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wvParticipantI doubt if Obama has the goodness in his soul
to do something like that, to be honest.He seems much more interested in blowing up innocent
people with his drone machines.w
vSeptember 14, 2016 at 7:45 pm in reply to: Keyshawn Johnson: "Fisher was forced to draft Goff" #52918
wvParticipant.. Then, and only then did they take the strawberries… er I mean draft Goff.
Let him sit until he’s ready – like a nice strawberry-rhubarb pie…
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That’s just crazy talk. Do you even watch football? Goff is obviously
like a fine October pumpkin pie.Mannion is a strawberry-rhubarb pie.
Keenum is brown sugar cinnamon poptart.
Now dont make me school you again.
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wvParticipantVote for the Lying Neoliberal Warmonger
http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=767&Itemid=74&jumival=17103September 14, 2016 at 3:44 pm in reply to: 49ers could tell by alignment exactly what the Rams route tree was #52877
wvParticipantSo…..the 9ers defense figured out the Rams offense before Jared Goff?
Line of the year. You win the Internet.
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Yes, great line. Indeed.
But I also liked:
“Fuck me…start Mannion this week.”
Ozonerangerbtw, what the heck is an ‘ozoneranger‘ ?
I don’t understand that name. I mean, you have
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vSeptember 14, 2016 at 1:29 pm in reply to: Scientific American asks Stein, 2 bozos and a no show questions #52871
wvParticipantJill’s answers were good.
sigh
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vSeptember 14, 2016 at 1:00 pm in reply to: 49ers could tell by alignment exactly what the Rams route tree was #52864
wvParticipant“…One 49ers player told Wyche that San Francisco’s defense could tell by alignment and backfield motion after the snap exactly what the Rams route tree was..”
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“We came out expecting the Rams to play better than they did,”
49ers’ NaVorro Bowman.————–
It just gets funnier and funnier, don’t it.
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wvParticipantThis made me laugh.
I mean, this is from an opposing player.
I dont even know what to say about this. I mean, he almost sounds disappointed :
“We came out expecting the Rams to play better than they did,”
49ers’ NaVorro Bowman.
wvParticipantit’s only one game but you would expect them to by now to not keep making the same mistakes.
it’s always excuses with this team.
on the other hand i’m wary of changing coaches at this time. regime changes and qb development do not go hand in hand especially of they try to bring an offensive guy in, and he decides the whole offense needs to be scrapped and bring in a new system.
it’s tough. at this point i’m still inclined to give fisher until the new stadium goes up. that should be sufficient time for goff to establish himself. after that changing coaches shouldn’t be as much of a problem.
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I really dont think anyone is making excuses for THAT one game performance, Invader.
On Monday night against SF, they were dreadful. Execrable… grody, even.
Here, there’s even more words here: http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/horrible?s=t
wvParticipantI agree with Zooey, the stench of this game was about as bad
as a giant pile of steaming dragon-poop.And if this kind of performance continues I will call for Fisher
to be paraded through the streets naked, while throngs of angry ram fans
chant “Shame! Shame!” and throw rotten fruit at him.As of game one-of-sixteen, things suck.
But 15 sixteenths of a season remain.
Is Winter coming?
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wvParticipantSometimes I think these guys don’t even know what they’re protesting. Just kinda going with whatever someone else is doing because it will elevate them to the class of rebel. I don’t know how much of this discussion is tolerated here, so I’ll just say that these numbnuts have no idea what oppression is. Women who get stoned to death for dating someone they think is cute? That’s oppression. Women prohibited from showing their faces? That’s oppression. Children brainwashed into martyring themselves? That’s oppression. African Americans led by an African American President? That’s not oppression. The Media tricking these guys into believing that there’s oppression? That’s the real crime.
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Well, I think i understand where you are coming from X,
but I disagree in general.I mean, you can always find something ‘worse’ to point to, and then say “Oppression? Why hundreds of years ago, Native peoples were genocided by the millions, so what do these young folks know about oppression?” Or, “Oppression? why Idi Amin used to eat dissenters for lunch, what do these people know about oppression?”
You can always find ugier examples of oppression. But ya know, in this country, ya protest and work for justice wherever you want. You pick an issue that means somethin to ya, and you work for justice. So, i applaud anybody who picks any social-justice-cause and works for it.
And yes, a lot of times, young people dont really understand issues as well as people who have studied issues longer. But sometimes they know exactly what they are doing. I dunno what Britt and Quinn know or dont know.
The other board is probly better if yall wanna go into this. Though on this board we can usually handle stuff on either board without getting too ‘heated’. I mean, itz sports and itz politix both.
Always always good to see the X-man on either board.
What the hell happened in San Fran, btw? What ‘was’ that?
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wvParticipantI thought the guard play was surprisingly bad. They couldn’t anchor against the bull rush and they couldn’t get outside on screens and runs around the ends when they had to pull.
I thought Joyner struggled. Sensabaugh had decent position sometimes but still gave up plays.
Cam Thomas is an enormous man, but he gets pushed around easily.
Kudos to Kenny Britt for being the only average player on offense last night.
Hekker is in mid season form. I’m glad that he’s a Ram.
Quinn needs some time before he’s in game shape.
I understand some fans calls for Goff to play immediately, but I would rather the Rams wait until the offense settles down a bit.
Lots of other stuff, but I’m working on memory and I don’t want to rewatch the game.
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Last time I remember a 28-0 score against the Rams
was a Playoff game against Dallas.Ugly, ugly memory. Cause that was a good team the rams had.
So, is the season over, boys?
Or can they slowly, claw their way back. Maybe go 2-3 and claw there way back with a coupla ugly wins. Maybe get things going in November. Yes? No? Fire fisher? Move back to Cleveland?
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wvParticipantI was hoping for 8 wins this year. But, it looks like we are going to gift the Browns with a high draft choice next year.
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I dunno. Fisher has always had a way of coming back after
games like this. We’ll see how they play at home. They have to win their home games.1 Mon, Sep 12 @ San Francisco 0-28 L
2 Sun, Sep 18 Seattle 4:05 PM ET
3 Sun, Sep 25 @ Tampa Bay 4:05 PM ET
4 Sun, Oct 02 @ Arizona 4:25 PM ET
5 Sun, Oct 09 Buffalo 4:25 PM ET
wvParticipantWell….awful as it was, one game is one game.
I’ll have to see a couple more games.
I mean, it could be all the distractions of the move,
and hard knocks, and all that, affected them. Could be
that Fisher just got outcoached. I dunno yet.w
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wvParticipantWell…I like Mike Groh. Thats all i got.
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wvParticipantI wonder how many protesters walked out there to protest?
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Well its a fair question, but its also fair to ask how is one supposed
to be totally ‘pure’ in all actions when one is born into a corporotacracy.
I mean, I have no problem with progressives picking out some major issues and fighting for them, while still having cars, or watching pro football on televisions, etc. Its ‘almost’ impossible to be a saint today. So, i don’t have a problem with non-saints protesting the big issues of the day.w
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wvParticipantI may be wrong, wouldn’t be the first time, but something is up and Wikileaks could bring a major turnabout in this election.
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Well, it would take something really big, to derail Hillary, imho.
What supreme court issues do you care about most? (if u answer i promise no pedantic lectures or arguing 🙂 )
(I mainly care about one at this point — corporate personhood. And Hillary’s appointee would probably be slightly better on that issue than Trumps.)w
vSeptember 10, 2016 at 11:16 am in reply to: Hildabeast used an earpiece to get answers during live NBC TV Town Hall #52551
wvParticipantIt’s no different to me than having speech writers to write a candidate’s speeches.
And i assume a lot of the richest national candidates do the microphone-in-the-ear thing.
What matters is the actual policies the candidate will fight for.
Thats what matters. Not ear-microphones or hair-styles, etc.w
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wvParticipantCNN poll — Trump in the lead
And no, i still say he is toast.w
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The Unconquerable Trump
Seemingly imploding on the trail, Trump gains in a national poll. WTF, America?
Matt Taibbi
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/the-unconquerable-trump-w438545
A stunning new CNN poll came out this week, showing Donald Trump in the lead against Hillary Clinton, 45-43 percent. Naturally, the release of this new survey coincided with my own Rolling Stone feature describing Trump in a “freefall,” having “lost his mojo.” What can I say? Sometimes in journalism, you can’t help looking like a buffoon.Let’s look at that poll, for if there’s any truth to it (and there has been some other evidence a “tightening” in the race), it would mean the ultimate worst-case scenario.
On the surface, Trump and new “campaign CEO” Steve Bannon appear to be employing one of the dumbest campaign strategies presidential politics has ever seen.
The recent rebrand is a transparent effort to rehabilitate Trump’s image as a racist loon. Bannon’s play has been to wheel Trump out at campaign events shackled, Hannibal Lecter-style, to teleprompters. At each stop, the candidate tries to focus just long enough to read out a robotic script offering “minority outreach,” while also signaling a “softening” and a “pivot” on his chief issue, immigration.
In person, watching Lecter-Trump labor to push this “minority outreach” script up a hill for 45 minutes or so is embarrassing to the point of being physically uncomfortable.
His “What do you have to lose?” appeals to African-American voters recall the cringe-inducing “My heart is as black as yours” routine of infamous New York Democrat Mario Procaccino, whose 1969 mayoral run has been described as the most incompetent campaign in American history.
It seems impossible that Trump’s Dr. King act would convince an educated person of anything. Just try to picture the mind that would be persuaded by these speeches. It’s not an easy image to conjure.
But in perhaps the ultimate demonstration of Murphy’s Law, it seems to have worked. The Bannon-Trump strategy at least looks this week like a success, even if it was just in the area of scoring one headline in one perhaps-flawed poll.
It’s developments like this that explain why the most successful third-party candidate in polls this season – and the only one who attracts wide support among liberals, conservatives and independents – is a giant meteor hitting the earth. (The “Sweet Meteor O’Death” scored 13 percent support, including an impressive 27 percent of independents, in a July poll).
After all, if Trump-Bannon’s nitwit strategy can succeed, that’s a powerful argument in favor of the species needing a reboot.
Or maybe the problem is confined to those of us here in America.
Just look at the math. The total popular vote in 2012 was 129,237,642 people. Assuming a similar turnout, in a theoretical world where Donald Trump scores 45 percent of the vote, that would mean a hair over 58 million human beings casting a vote for a man who thinks vaccines need to be administered one at a time, because “tiny children are not horses.”
Unlike George W. Bush, a pliable ignoramus surrounded by cunning government lifers who were the real candidates for the job, Trump is surrounded by determined conspiracy theorists incapable of speaking English or completing a coherent thought.His spokesperson Katrina Pierson said Barack Obama’s policies “probably” caused the death of a soldier killed in Iraq – in 2004! When confronted about her mistake, she said, “That’s why I used, ‘probably.'”
These are the sort of people whose first move upon entering the Oval Office would probably be to order the file on Area 51, or to check the back of the Declaration of Independence for treasure maps. And yet, somewhere north of 55 million voters, and huge majorities of white people, seem prepared to cast votes for this crew.
Trump would probably require miraculous reversals in demographic trends to win. Most likely, he’d need either absurdly low turnout among minorities and college-educated voters, or an unheard-off increase in turnout among non-college-educated white voters.
But such eventualities can’t be counted out. Trump has enjoyed an extraordinary run of sinister luck since the beginning of this race. The seas have parted for him over and over again in a pattern so improbable, it makes one guess at the existence of a Supreme Being with a serious grudge against the United States.
I bet on Trump to win the Republican nomination last summer, but it didn’t seem like easy money then. Trump’s path to victory in the nomination seemed to depend upon the unfolding of something like a conspiracy of incompetence by his primary opponents.
The likely victory scenario required some combination of John Kasich, Ben Carson, Jeb Bush, Chris Christie, Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz staying in the race too long, preventing Trump from having to win a one-on-one race.
That did happen, thanks in part to a series of unhappy accidents. Marco Rubio’s New Hampshire implosion, for instance, may have opened the door for already-conceding John Kasich’s surprise second-place showing in the same state. This kept both candidates in through Super Tuesday, allowing Trump to waltz to victory needing only a plurality of voters.
Trump’s Republican opponents proved perfect foils for his suicide-bomber political style. One by one, they each walked into the trap of engaging him in exchanges of schoolyard insults, causing senators and governors to quickly lose their respectable titles in favor of new monikers like “low-energy Jeb” and “Little Marco” and “Lyin’ Ted.”
Trump’s opponents all looked offended and thrown off-script by his attacks, while Trump came across as the same bleating, thin-skinned nut whether anyone engaged him or not. His opponents never figured out that Trump is incapable of losing such contests of insults, since he lacks the self-awareness to feel it when verbal punches land.
The physical proximity afforded by the endless debates was another factor. When you have to share a stage with a candidate determined to turn every event into a circus, it’s pretty hard to play the “I’m above the fray” card. He devoured camera time even in moderated debates, enhancing the impression that he was the dominant personality.
But all of these advantages were supposed to evaporate in general-election season. Instead of needing a plurality of Republicans, he now needed a plurality (and perhaps a majority) of all voters. Moreover his opposition was no longer a field of 16 nincompoops, but a single historically skilled political infighter who happened also to be one of the most famous and admired women on earth.
Unlike Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio, Hillary Clinton was not going to get into a “mine’s bigger than yours” bro-brawl with Trump on live TV. She was sure to do the smart thing: let Trump hang himself with his own stupidity for as long as possible, and then ultimately turn the election into a referendum on dull competence versus cattle cars, race war and global isolation – an easy choice, the political version of Eddie Izzard’s “cake or death” joke.
This is exactly how it seemed to play out. After the conventions, Trump plunged into new scandals and controversies on a nearly minute-to-minute basis, from a loony battle with the family of a dead war vet to a claim that Obama “founded ISIS” to a bizarre remark about what daughter Ivanka should do if sexually harassed in the workplace by a Roger Ailes type (“find a new career”).
Then, in the face of plummeting poll numbers and mocking headlines, he panicked and emerged from a campaign reorganization tethered to an insane plan to walk all of this damage back by singing homilies to African-American despair in front of all-white crowds.
It should have been fatal. It wasn’t. Whether the CNN poll taken at the end of this incredible sequence of events that shows him in the lead is accurate or not, is irrelevant. The fact that it’s even close is an awesome indictment of us all.
It’s also a testament to Trump’s uncanny inability to fail even when he seems to be trying his hardest to do so. Not even the most exaggerated view of Hillary Clinton’s deficiencies as a candidate explains it. It feels a lot more like Idiocracy coming powerfully to life at exactly the wrong moment.
I still don’t think Trump really has a chance, but we’re sure headed toward a scary ending.
From ‘Citizen Kane’ to ‘Idiocracy,’ here are the movies that predicted the political rise of presidential candidate Donald Trump. Watch here… see link
wvParticipantI’m not really being down on the team or the coaches or anything, it’s just that I have a weird feeling about this one. Vinovich is the referee, and I don’t like that guy. When he’s the ref, ill-timed penalties seem to occur to the visiting team, and last year – when he was the zebra – the home team won 12 of 16 games.
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Well this is the first time (and ive been posting since 1998), that i have seen anyone post a Referee Stat.
What other strange stats do you know about? What about astrology? Do Scorpio WR’s usually have a big day against the Rams?
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wvParticipantSteven A. Smith is out of his mind.
If Goff was ready to be the #2, he’d be ready to be the #1.
He’s not ready. When he is, he will leapfrog Mannion straight into starting. That’s how that works. It’s not a ladder.
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Well he’s done a lot of ranting about Fisher over
the last six months. He’s not particularly rational
when the subject involves Fisher.Its funny, so many media-pundits are acting like the Rams QB situation
is bad — but a lot of hardcore knowledgeable ram fans think the QB
situation is the best its been since the GSOT,
with Keenum, Mannion, Goff.w
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wvParticipantBarring an arrest, or a blow-job, its crooked-hillary.
I dont even think the debates will matter.w
vThe aftermath.
What happens with all his supporters after the election?
I think in the five stages of grief, they don’t get past the first two: denial, then anger.
All those Hillary Haters are just gonna have coronary explosions, and David Duke and his buddies….
I dunno. Either way, things are gonna get even uglier in this here greatest country on earth.
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A thot-experiment — If Trump had won, would those angry-white-males
still like him two years into his term, when their
lives stayed the same or got worse ?Anyway, with President-Hillary as President it gives them
something to live for — smoldering hate.
(and i will be right there with them 🙂w
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