Yeah, lots of fear. The Right is not really monolithic though is it. They have a diverse collection of factions it looks like:

1 Rich country-club crowd. Pro-Corporate culture. Folks that dont fall asleep during discussions about Taxes and the stock market.

2 The Eee-Vangelical Christians. Abortion, abortion, abortion. Abortion. They dont seem to know or care about much else.

3 The Pat Buchannon conservatives. Throwbacks.

4 The racist-collective. Nazis, Neo-Confederates, etc.

5 Working-class folks who fear Immigrants will take their jobs.

6 Military families. Lots of folks connected with the military just seem to be Reps.

7 And then there’s people that just cant stand the lying, cheating, weasely Democrats.

Fear of government, fear of immigrants, fear of blacks, fear of terrorists, fear of secular folks, fear of Muslims, fear of gays and cultural disintegration….

Ah well.

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Is this game like the 49er game in 99? Ya know. A real test.

If the Rams win, they are ‘for real’ etc…?

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BTW: did anyone watch Jimmy Kimmel’s moving address to this issue?

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Inter esting.

The Wade effect.

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Deadliest shooting only if you dont count black lives:

link:https://www.theroot.com/this-is-only-the-deadliest-shooting-in-u-s-history-bec-1819112938

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“….Left tackle Rees Odhiambo was released from the hospital Monday after staying there overnight for observation after having difficulty breathing after taking a hard hit to his chest area in the third quarter — he did not miss a snap. He was hurt on a hit from Indy’s Jabaal Sheard that Carroll said the team will send to the league office to get their view of if it should have been flagged.

While there was a report that Odhiambo had a bruised heart Carroll said emphatically that is not true.

“He does not have a bruised heart, which is out there — whatever, somebody made that up,’’ Carroll said. “That isn’t what he has. He’s got a bruised sternum.’’

Carroll didn’t rule out that Odhiambo could play Sunday against the Rams saying “we’re not sure what that means for this week but it’s nothing beyond that.’’

Carroll didn’t say who would step in for Odhiambo this week if he can’t play but his backup has been Matt Tobin. Tobin played the one play Odhiambo missed earlier when he hurt his ankle against Tennessee.

After finishing the game Odhiambo complained of breathing issues in the locker room after the game and was attended to by physicians with coaches and teammates huddled around.

Carroll said Odhiambo’s effort to continue playing was “more than we realized. He just sucked it up he was having trouble breathing and he just sucked it up and it kind of caught up with him after the game when he started to calm down, all the adrenaline wasn’t pumping and all. But it was a really good effort by him to hang tough and play a good football game. … (Quarterback) Russell (Wilson) said he would see in the hustle that he was struggling and didn’t know what it was all about. He was struggling to catch his breath. So it was gallant — a great effort.”

seattle:https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/seahawks/seahawks-health-updates-no-timeline-for-cliff-avril-return-chris-carson-to-have-surgery-tuesday-rees-odhiambo-gets-good-news/

Gun Stocks are up after the shooting. As per usual:
guns:http://money.cnn.com/2017/10/02/investing/las-vegas-shooting-gun-stocks-sturm-ruger-american-outdoor-brands/index.html

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House of Reps poised to pass legislation legalizing gun Silencers:
“…the House is poised to pass legislation legalizing the use of gun silencers as early as this week, a move that critics say could make it more difficult to identify where gunshots are coming from during a mass shooting like the one that took place in Las Vegas Sunday night.
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A provision called the Hearing Protection Act, tucked into the bipartisan Sportsmen Heritage and Recreational Enhancement, or SHARE Act, would eliminate restrictions on silencers and instead treat them as ordinary firearms….”
Guns:https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2017-10-02/house-poised-to-pass-law-easing-sale-of-gun-silencers-after-las-vegas-shooting

Well, if you turn the color off on yer tv, it looks just fine.

I’ve heard they looked damn good in Pleasantville.

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McVay, hired at the age of 30 to fix a broken offense, has the third-most points through a coach’s first four career games since the merger in 1970.

Said Austin: “He works us to death in practice. He works us ’til we get it. … He demands professionalism.

Two notable comments.

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Do you think they ‘work harder’ than with Fisher?

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The Robert Woods ‘touchdown’ was an awesome play too. Such great hands and body control by that guy. A wonderful addition.

Snead/McV — have they made any personnel mistakes so far? Looks like they’ve hit several homeruns. Woods, Watkins, the LT, the Center. Critical additions.

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…i had a jury trial recently where a white cop testified that one of the reasons he arrested a defendant (a white defendant arrested for ‘making terrorist threats’)was because the defendant expressed support for black lives matter.

I kid you not. The white cop also stated he arrested the guy to ‘pre-empt’ him from creating a ‘mass casualty’ situation.

A ‘pre-emptive’ arrest, based in part because a guy said he supported black lives matter.

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I watched the game on replay, tonight. I had wondered how McV’s offense would look against a team like Dallas that knew McV very well, and had three Ram games to study as well.

I was quite pleased with how the Rams offense looked. Dallas stopped Watkins and Woods for the most part, but Gurley just kept gashing them.

I thought sure Dallas would force at least one Goff INT — but no. The kid, on the road, did not give the game away. He ‘distributed’ the ball, to use McV’s term, and ‘managed’ the game like a good point-guard. Goff let Gurley and the Oline and Legatron win it. He didn’t try to do too much.

The coaching has been talked about endlessly and everyone already has McV in the Hall of Fame — and i concur 🙂

The OLine was a thing of beauty. Just gorgeous.

Each game Goff gets to play, is like…oh, i dunno what metaphor to use, but its like gold in the bank er somethin. Each game he is learning. Growing. You can see it. His pocket footwork and patience were a little better at Dallas than against the lesser-teams earlier this year. Seattle will be another good learning experience for the kid. But each game he is gonna get better. And that’s fun to think about.

Kupp is already a joy. What happens when HE gets all the nuances down. He’s still learning too.

I dunno what the ceiling is for this Defense this year. I’m kinda hoping they can at least be smart and opportunistic. Maybe get gashed a lot but still come up with a few key plays. Just enough. Like at Dallas. Seems like the Saints won a ring with a defense a little like that. I dunno.

Perhaps my favorite play, was something that was not even mentioned on the broadcast. And it only showed up peripherally on the camera. It happened on the big Gurley TD catch. Anybody see it? 🙂

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Yeah, that was impressive.

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There may be some subtle or not-so-subtle consequences in store of Shannon.

The powers-that-be dont like that kinda talk.

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zn wrote:

Billy_T wrote:

So when someone says that socialism has always failed, I have to say, no. It hasn’t. Cuz it’s never been tried.

And there are lots of different views on THAT too.

For example democratic socialism, as opposed to theoretical pure socialism, has not only been tried and is successful, in some parts of the world it is dominant.

I count the success of democratic socialism heavily in looking at real economic policies.

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What nations are you thinking about zn?

…aint it inter-esting that in general, fox-newz, and msnbc-newz, never talk about ‘them’ countries. Mainly, US-viewers are simply fed, and fed, and fed, and fed, newZ about North-Korea and Iran….etc.

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