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October 21, 2019 at 12:14 pm in reply to: (must read?) Ramsey removed handcuffs from Rams’ defense #107085
wvParticipantSo what was Talib, chopped liver?
I dunno. Ramsey was beat on that long pass that Julio dropped. I know Ramsey is great, but i think that game was more about Atlanta’s OLine.
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vOctober 21, 2019 at 11:22 am in reply to: Peter King: do the Rams trade-crazy ways signal a new NFL trend? #107077wvParticipant“…Two: It probably depends on the development of Jared Goff more than anything else, because no one wins everything without very good play out of the quarterback….”
—————–Maybe, but I’d say it depends on building a playoff caliber Offensive Line.
Nothing is more ignored in the Football-sports-media than the OLine. Its the most important unit in football and it just dont get ratings in the Media.
George Allen must have been ahead of his time.
That was a good article btw. I dont think the Rams Way is unsustainable. I dont think the ‘other’ way is bad, either. Always more than one way to build a team. But you ‘have’ to hit on a critical mass of players.
And then they have to stay healthy. Itz all purty chaotic, and unpredictable. Which makes New England’s long run proof-positive that they made a deal with Satan.w
vwvParticipantOne of the sites on that list. Chapo Trap House is the name of a podcast.
Chapo Trap House
wvParticipantDo you have Game Pass, WV? Or did you tape it via the Sunday Ticket?
This is my first season in aeons without the Ticket. Bummed that I couldn’t watch the game as it happened.
In limbo now . . . debating whether or not to get Game Pass. The Rams will likely be on local TV five more times this season. Maybe another game or two at a sports bar. But it’s much more enjoyable for me to relax in my own home.
I wish the NFL would diversify and offer other options beyond Game Pass and Directv. I’d be happy if I could just hook up with LA channels. Limit my out of market watching to just the Rams. I don’t need to see all the other games . . . but that’s not an option.
I thought capitalism was supposed to be all about competition!!
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I cant afford all that satellite tv stuff, but I can afford Game Pass. I love it. I dont ever have to watch the Rams lose 🙂
Game Pass is perfect for me. I like being able to watch the game whenever i want, as well as any parts of any other game. Sometimes i like to watch the last ten minutes of the best games, etc.
…Goff ‘just missed’ four big throws in the first half. I dont know what to think of that. All four passes were, like, two inches too long. You could say, he is very very close and will start making those throws at some point. Or, you could say the pressure has affected him and he is just gonna be ‘off’ this year. I dunno.
Oh, and how in the hell could the Falcons look so unprepared for the Hekker fake punt? Geez. If i was a falcon fan I’d wear a bag over my head.
Best case scenario for the Rams this year might be: Somehow they scratch and claw their way to wildcard contention. And avoid injuries. And near the end of the year, they get Talib and Johnson back. Think about ‘that’ defense, goin into the playoffs.
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vOctober 20, 2019 at 8:16 pm in reply to: Should the left reassess its relationship to the Establishment? #107027wvParticipant…As Zooey says, Essayons. Let’s add Nous to that too.
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Yeah, we gotta bash-on-regardless. I mean itz not like humans can tank and get a high first round planet in the future.
…I’m reading the Dying Earth. Cuz thats how i bash-on. By reading about a planet where the sun is going out. 🙂
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wiki: The Dying Earth, by J.Vance“…The stories are all set in an undefined far future Earth, when the sun is nearing the end of its life. The sky ranges from pink to deep blue, lit by a dim red sun, and many strange plants and animals exist. Much of the story is set… in the ruined cities that dot the landscape.
…. The characters in the stories are aware that they live on a “Dying Earth” and often make carefree, nihilistic references to the fact that their planet does not have much longer to live, assuming that the sun will soon burn itself out. It is never explained how long the Earth has left to live; it could be only decades….”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dying_Earth
wvParticipanti watched the first quarter so far. Does it seem like Legatron never puts em through the middle anymore? Even the kicks he makes now always seem to be barely inside the uprights.
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vwvParticipantGood for Peters. I think he started the same way with the Rams.
But I’d rather have a good solid ‘complete’ CB, at this point.
If the Rams can rebuild their OLine next year, they have a shot. The TE’s look good. WR’s look good. Defense in general looks good. Special teams look good. QB is good enough, imho. Is Henderson good enough? I dunno.
But its really just the OLine thats the glaring problem now. That can be fixed in one year.w
vwvParticipantThey need to schedule more one-win teams.
I get to watch this one now. I only watch the wins. That’s how i roll.
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vOctober 20, 2019 at 5:17 pm in reply to: Should the left reassess its relationship to the Establishment? #107002wvParticipantI tend to think that the Wachowski brothers (unintentionally) made the most historically accurate movie ever in The Matrix..
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The Matrix. Yeah, think may be true.
Cept i think the Lorax may end up being the most accurate.
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“I, that did never weep, now melt with woe
That winter should cut off our spring-time so”
http://mentalfloss.com/article/31865/william-shakespeares-12-coldest-quotesOctober 20, 2019 at 5:10 pm in reply to: Should the left reassess its relationship to the Establishment? #107001wvParticipantDon’t you think that if leftists were able to get our info out to the mainstream, things would change?…
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Well, I dunno. Once the masses have been drenched in propaganda for decades I am afraid “non-capitalist” info just bounces off them, BT. I think propaganda changes their brains. If you dont think so, go talk to a mainstreamer and just give them some facts on any issue, and see what happens 🙂 The facts bounce off em.
And of course the facts ‘are’ out there. You read books on facts all the time. But its all drowned out by the MSM and the propaganda-state. In order to ‘get thru’ to the masses, I suspect you’d have to eliminate the MSM and THEN maybe after a few years of ‘deprogramming’ you might have a chance. I dunno.
Its academic at this point. And the proof is always at the ballot box.
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vwvParticipantPS: I suppose I’d be for Nuke-power if it was Nationalized and it was done with all kinds of transparency and it was the will of a critically-informed-citizenry.
I probly wouldnt be for it if it were based on a For-Profit system in a corporotacracy.
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vWell, nationalized would certainly be best but we need it regardless of who owns it or how it’s managed.
Wind and solar on their own cannot supply the world’s growing energy needs and people will never make the sacrifices necessary to reverse climate change without it.
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Well, I’m doing some nuclear testing in my bathtub this week. I think I’m almost past the prototype stage and should be ready for the market in time for the Christmas Season.
Btw, do you know whether Plutonium has to be refrigerated, or can i just leave it in a cabinet?
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vOctober 20, 2019 at 12:03 pm in reply to: Should the left reassess its relationship to the Establishment? #106975wvParticipantI dunno for sure, but I think i disagree BT. I dont think we ‘outnumber’ them. I think its like the Matrix 🙂
I dont think the masses have just reluctantly ‘accepted’ things or have ‘adapted’ to things — The VOTE COUNT proves that. NO-ONE is forcing them to continue to vote, year after year after year after year for Bushes, Reagans, Nixons, Trumps, Clintons, and Obamas. Plus look…at…the…SENATE. My lord. Just look at who…they…vote for. Willingly. They dont have to. There’s always progressive candidates out there.
I think the masses’ brains have been colonized.
I dont think looking to past revolutions helps anymore. There’s never been a modern-propaganda-system like the one that exists in the USA. At least I dont think there has. I dunno.
btw, i am skimming a Pat Tillman book:
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From “Where Men Win Glory” The Pat Tillman story, by J Krakaur“…a fervent subculture of Marxist intellectuals, professionals and students had by this time taken root in Kabul….
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…….…Carter called it (the soviet invasion) ‘the most serious threat to peace since world war II’….
….But Carter’s righteous indignation was more than slightly disingenuous. Although the US government claimed otherwise in official statements, the CIA had begun purchasing weapons for the Mujahideen at least six months before the Soviet invasion and this clandestine support was intended not to deter Moscow but to provoke it. According to Carter’s national security advisor, Zbigniew Brzezinski, the purpose of arming the Afghans was to stimulate enough turmoil to ‘induce a Soviet military intervention’…”
===============Our tax dollars at work. The info is out there. The masses dont care. How would joining the CIA stop any of this?
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vwvParticipantwvParticipantPS: I suppose I’d be for Nuke-power if it was Nationalized and it was done with all kinds of transparency and it was the will of a critically-informed-citizenry.
I probly wouldnt be for it if it were based on a For-Profit system in a corporotacracy.
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vwvParticipantShe’s anti-abortion and apparently doesn’t believe in same sex marriage, but she doesn’t seem to let that influence the way she votes.
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From what I’ve read she is pro-choice and pro-same-sex-marriage. She evolved. Which is good.
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“While many Americans may relate to growing up in a conservative home, my story is a little different because my father was very outspoken. He was an activist who was fighting against gay rights and marriage equality in Hawaii — and at that time, I forcefully defended him,” Gabbard explained in a tweet. “But over the years, I formed my own opinions based on my life experience that changed my views — at a personal level in having aloha, love, for all people, and ensuring that every American, regardless of sexual orientation or gender identity, is treated equally under the law.”Not so long ago, Gabbard’s opposition to gay marriage would not have been so unusual from a Democratic presidential hopeful.
It was Bill Clinton, after all, who enacted “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell.” In 2008, both of the leading Democratic presidential candidates — Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton — opposed same-sex marriage. That reflected where the country stood. In 2002, only about a third of adults favored same-sex marriage, including less than half of Democrats, according to the Pew Research Center.
But that’s changedhttps…://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/01/18/tulsi-gabbards-pivot-lgbt-issues-not-uncommon-socially-conservative-democrats/
October 19, 2019 at 6:44 pm in reply to: Should the left reassess its relationship to the Establishment? #106950wvParticipantYeah, we don’t have the numbers. I mean…not at all. And don’t let Bernie Sanders’ numbers fool you. Sanders is, of course, a kind of FDR level of Democrat. Maybe he’s to the left of that, and just knows it no use talking about anything to the left of that for now, I dunno.
But when I started to think I saw signs of life on the Left because of various polls saying that young people are questioning capitalism, and supporting Sanders, and all his social proposals…I have that tempered by the fact that a lot of those people don’t know what they’re talking about.
I mean…a lot of Sanders supporters list Joe Biden as their second choice as a candidate.
Essayons!
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Yeah the political-IQ of “the 95 percent” is so low, i dont think they could change anything in ‘the establishment.’ They ‘are’ the establishment. Bernie-voters not withstanding.
Sometimes the surreal-ness of the Amerikan-situation is fascinating. For example, think about how many books are out there right now DETAILING atrocity after atrocity after atrocity by this system. The “five percent” write books all the time. From Chomsky, to Zinn, to Hedges, to Naomi Klein, to the Media-Lens guys, to Max Blumenthal, to Greg Palast, to Bill Blum, and on and on and on and on…
Doesnt matter. Not one iota of difference.
The bloody info is out there.
Doesn’t matter.
Cause the people are so dummed-down. Its like tryin to show shakespeare to Frankenstein’s monster. He’s just gonna eat the book and then twist yer head off.
Anyway, its just a fascinating, unique situation. I assume during Hitler’s reign there were not hundreds of books being published about all his atrocities. The American system is so much more sophisticated than Hitlers. I mean, the powers that be dont even have to care.
Have a nice day. Call me Mary-Sunshine.
…btw I watched the movie Whiplash. It made me want to listen to Jazz drummers.
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vOctober 19, 2019 at 6:20 pm in reply to: Falcons game TV Map + question: how will the Rams do this time? #106947wvParticipantThe Rams ran straight through SF until they fell behind, and had to throw.
Just sayin’.
There are ways to keep the DL off of a QB, and the best way is to play ahead, instead of from behind.
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So yer sayin the Rams should try and win the game?
I dunno. I was thinking maybe they should lose every game so they can have the first overall pick with their
first rounder.…oh wait.
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vwvParticipantJacobin doesn’t trust Gabbard.
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/05/tulsi-gabbard-president-sanders-democratic-party
Tulsi Gabbard Is Not Your Friend
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Enh. I agree and disagree. Basically the Jacobin-socialist-writer is being way to much of a ‘purist’ on this. Technically, yes, he’s TOTALLY right, she is NOT a leftist. She doesnt think like a leftist. In many ways she thinks like a somewhat compassionate-conservative.
But — OF THE CHOICES OPEN to us on the DEMOCRAT ticket, she is indeed the most anti-war choice, imho. I dont even think its close. And that is the reason the deep-state (sorry couldnt resist) LOATHES her. The Dem-Media just loathes her. Hit peice after hit piece from the Dem-MSM.
Fox News loves her, for obvious reasons — cause she skewers the Dem Candidates by calling out their hypocrisy. Look what she did to Kamala and others. The Right loves that. And they know she’s not a real threat to Trump, her numbers are way to low. They know she’s not going to win. So the reason they love her is not hard to figure out – shes not a threat to them, but she can wreak havoc with the Dems.
But yeah, she’s not a leftist and doesnt think like one. But if you think endless-deep-state-war is a HUGE problem — she’s the best candidate. If you want universal health care — she supports it. If you want to address climate change — she’s good on that. There’s no other Dem Candidate that combines all THREE of those three things, imho.
Name another Dem Candidate in the last ten years that was as Anti-Imperialist as Tulsi Gabbard?
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vwvParticipantWV,
Well said. I understand why you feel that way about the CIA. But, frankly, isn’t that the case with the majority of “the state”? Should people become police officers, for example, given the history of abuses? Should they become border patrol agents, given its long, long history of (what I would call) state terrorism against migrants? Or the military…
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Well, i ask myself those questions all the time. I dont have solid answers.
But just in my ‘own’ mind, the CIA is in a special category. Maybe because its a SECRET organization, AND because it seems to me it is the bloodiest. Its the deep-state. They murder socialists BT. They always have. They still do. Its…their…Mission. Stop socialism by any means necessary. In secret. With our tax dollars.
So i just dont care about the fact they also ‘do some good’ in the world. I have no doubt they do. So did Al Capone. So does the Mafia.
I just dont put police departments in the same category.
The military is trickier for me. I go back and forth on the military.
One of the never-to-be-resolved-problems of living in a Corporotacracy is the system puts leftists in an impossible situation. Join the system and you are part of a system that destroys poor people, etc. Dont join the system…and watch your family starve to death while you try to sell anti-war poetry or paint pretty pictures of sunsets, or try to run an indy book store or somethin.
The system makes it very hard to be a resister. Most folks who can resist…already have a trust fund 🙂
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vOctober 19, 2019 at 5:40 pm in reply to: Should the left reassess its relationship to the Establishment? #106943wvParticipantWell, for starters, I dont think there’s enough of a ‘left’ anymore to make a difference. I’d say 95 percent or so, of the adult-citizenry is Mainstream-Dem or something to the Right of ‘that.’ So I just dont think we have the numbers, Billy. All you have to do is count the votes to prove that — how many votes do the third-parties get? No-one is twisting anyone’s arm to vote for the Obamas, Clintons, Etc, etc, etc all the way back to World War II.
Europe has a left. We dont.
Having said that, lets say our small numbers wanted to ‘make a difference’ by joining the ‘establishment’ — how would that work? I mean think of the Media. Go get a job with the Wash Post, NYT, NPR, MSNBC, etc. How long do you think you would last BT? Hedges and Taibbi talked about this in the Vids.
What if you joined the Military — how could you make a difference? What are you gonna do, tell the generals they are part of a Racket? Are you gonna pass out Howard Zinn books? What could a leftist do?
What would you do exactly if you joined Monsanto?Join the establishment — and you will regret it.
Dont join the establishment — and you will regret it.
wv-kierkegaard.PS — what do i know. I got nuthin, but political-darkness. 🙂
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vwvParticipantAt the ten minute mark or so, he says “I take my foreign policy from Smedley Butler – ‘War is a racket’…”
The ‘deep state’ would not like Jessie 🙂
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vwvParticipant…As for the CIA itself: We’re on the same page when it comes to its ugly history and likely current ugly ops. But I think we differ in the overall picture. I think it is actually possible to work for it and not be a part of that monstrous past and/or present….
My theory of human beings applies to bureaucracies like the CIA too: I honestly, sincerely believe the vast majority of people are basically good,…
I see our problems as top down, predominantly…
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Can one work for an Org that Murders Socialists and Anti-Capitalists, Tortures, Deals-Drugs, Bribes, Installs Dictators, Funds Dictators, and often in the past and present Actively works against Democracy? And does it all in Secret. And of course Lies and Lies and Lies. The CIA has to lie. Its a secret organization so they have to lie. Part of the job. So can a person work for ‘that’ particular Org and NOT be part of the…oh…what should we call it? “Criminal Activity” is a bloodless kinda vague word but I’ll go with that.
Can a person work for the CIA (or ‘intern’ for them) and NOT be…’culpable’ for the CIA’s continuing atrocities? Well, i have been thinking about that one for a long time. I think about it a lot. (I think about it partly because i often work for the State in the ‘criminal justice’ system and ‘that’ is not a such a pure thing, either. But then Its all in the open and i get to say whatever i want to say about it. Not like the CIA…)
People who were Nazis often explained their behavior by saying “we didnt know.” But oftentimes victims of the Nazis respond with “how could you NOT know?.” Is the CIA situation similar to that? I dunno. Shouldnt American citizens be responsible for knowing what their institutions are doing? Isnt that part of being a citizen? If they dont know, why dont they?
I have no final answers, but I’m pretty sure, when it comes to Muder-Inc, I’m harder on people than you are BT. I know I’m not on totally solid ground here, though. I still mainly have (unanswerable) unsettling questions and not final answers.
As far as some CIA folks doing ‘good works.’ Sure, I suppose, but then some Nazi’s were veterinarians, and probly saved a lot of German Shepherds, and some Nazi’s were ‘first-responders’, and put out fires. Etc.
But if someone joined the Nazi’s to do ‘good work’ I’d still have to tilt my head…On another note you mentioned your main issue was the top-down thing. I agree, but its complicated aint it. I mean the ‘top’ controls or at least dominates the INFO-flow, the media, etc, so to a large degree the top ‘creates’ the bottom’s ideology. The bottom becomes a frankenstein because of the top. The bottom becomes a problem too. The ‘top’ and the ‘down’ become the same thing. In a way. Sorta.
Its getting cold here in WV,
and the leaves are still brown.w
vwvParticipantI duckduckgo’d Anderson Cooper and the CIA. It appears to be yet another case of Dore jumping the gun.
He interned with them during the summer of his sophomore and junior years at Yale, apparently. And that was the end of his connection, as far as we know.
Could he have retained the connection? Sure. Of course. Could he be Jason Bourne in disguise? Sure. But Dore should have been honest about this, instead of insinuating that he “worked for the CIA” in some sinister capacity as an adult.
Seriously, I have less and less patience for these youtube-host “progressives.” They don’t practice what they preach.
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Ok, we just have different reactions to Dore. I dont mind his ‘shoot from the hip’ qualities. I think of him as a ‘gonzo’ type. Also, I dont have a problem with saying Anderson Cooper ‘worked for the CIA’ if he indeed interned with them. Its the same thing to me. He chose to intern with Murder-Inc, imho. It tells me a lot about him. Is there really any ‘non-sinister’ way to work for the CIA? They are a Murder-Organization. Or do you see them as more nuanced than that? 🙂
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wvParticipantHedges part II:
wvParticipantPS – i did not know Anderson Cooper worked for the CIA, lol. It just gets better n better.
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vwvParticipantSo the article suggested we alter our routines whenever we can. Find the new in life when possible.
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I suppose i could try crunchy peanut-butter.
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vwvParticipant< My memory isn’t what it used to be, cuz you’ve probably explained the above rationale about a thousand and one times, and I just forgot about it.
Anyway . . .
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My memory has got to be the worst on the board. Trust me. Its awful. I’ve accepted it, though.
Strangely, I can still remember oddities from, like the 70s. Like, i can remember William F Buckley saying he liked peanut-butter sandwiches on his Firing Line Show. But i cant remember what i had for breakfast yesterday. Its weird what my brain retains and what it tosses into the mind-abyss.
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vOctober 17, 2019 at 12:00 pm in reply to: Falcons game TV Map + question: how will the Rams do this time? #106836wvParticipantI hear Jalen Ramsey can whip Chuck Norris, with one hand tied behind his back.
Also, the Rams have completed a Mega-Media-BLOCKBUSTER trade this year. And the Falcons havent. So there’s that.
Moreover OLines dont really matter in this new era of Mega-Media-BLOCKBUSTER-Trades and five billion dollar techno-stadium-complexes.
Therefore, I foresee another Strip-Sack for Goff, another fumble for Henderson, another 23 yards for Gurley on the ground, another two INTs for Goff. But none of that will matter. Because Jalen Ramsey will bat two balls down.
Rams 20
Falcons 22.w
vwvParticipantOctober 16, 2019 at 8:32 pm in reply to: Grading the Rams' 3 trades + NFL execs (via Sando) eval the Ramsey trade #106816wvParticipantMangini dont like it
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