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wvParticipantMan, the 49ers had that one. Seven mins left and up by ten and you got the ball. Or somethin like that. They had it.
And they unraveled.
Surely, this is a recipe for….Super Bowl Hangover.
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wvParticipantMany 49er fans are blaming the playcaller:
wvParticipantImagine the difference in perception, BY THE MEDIA, between Andy Reid winning….and losing.
If he wins — Hall of Fame coach.
If he loses — Big game Choker.I never followed Mahomes in college. But after i saw him play one game in the NFL, i could not understand why he wasnt the number one pick the year he came out. I dont get it. Why in the world did so many teams pass on him. His talent just looks UnGodly. And Obvious. Was he different in college?
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wvParticipantHe earned it. He went over the middle back when football was still football.
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wvParticipantYeah Rogan is a mix of things. He’s partly a dick. And partly a decent and curious guy.
Anyway, the good newz iz, Bernie has a chance.
The bad newz iz, even if he wins the system is rigged against him.Noam:
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wvParticipantI’ve been watching “Official Secrets” on dvd. I have to keep taking breaks from the film because its so tense/infuriating. Keira Knightley does her usual great-performance.
Anyway, as I was watching, i thot about Trump voters. I think there are many kinds of Trump voters — some voted for him because they felt ‘left behind.’ Ya know. The working class folks who lost coal-mining jobs, etc. And of course, there’s the various kinds of racists. And there’s the wealthy white Republican folks.
But there was also the folks that just dont trust ‘the swamp’. And they think of the swamp in various ways. One of those ways they think of the swamp is what they call ‘the deep state.’ Ie, the Mega-Global-Elite-something-or-other. It scares them. They dont understand it. But they know its not ‘local’ and its not friendly and it doesnt care about them.
When I watch this movie, depicting a lone woman, taking on the ‘deep state,’ I can picture Trump voters nodding their heads. Anyway, good film.
wvParticipantThis is the vid that made me rethink my notion of who Rogan is. I had bought into the DNC-Dem idea that he was a rightwing-thug, but after i watched this i started to see, Rogan is a lot of things. Many contradictory things. This is worth watching, imho:
wvParticipantDunno if that vid has been posted before, but its kinda interesting near the end. I didnt know all the players have lil microchips in their uniforms, and there’s a sensor matrix all around the stadium. Or somethin.
The Deep State is monitoring Aaron Donald now, i guess.
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wvParticipantLooks like a great match-up to me. Mahomes is the best offensive player in the
NFL. T.Hill is as exciting a player as there is.The 49ers have that great running game and Defense.
I go back and forth on it.
It’ll come down to the last few plays, I would think.
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vJanuary 27, 2020 at 6:15 pm in reply to: Eating locally-sourced foods does not help climate change… #110769
wvParticipantWell, the amount of land required and methane burping is what puts cattle way ahead.
Reducing the land needed to feed cattle is problematic. If we could engineer a cow to be really small, say about the size of a double cheeseburger, we could vastly reduce the amount of land required to feed them.
Then people could raise their own burgers in their backyards.
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See, I was thinking the opposite — I think if we raised Godzilla-sized animals… we could get rid of a lot of crowded, polluting Cities.
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wvParticipantThe Corporate take on things.
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NYT:https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/25/us/politics/democratic-iowa-poll-sanders.htmlSanders Seizes Lead in Volatile Iowa Race, Times Poll Finds
With solid support from liberals, Mr. Sanders appears to be peaking just as the caucuses approach. But many Iowa voters said they could still change their mind.
DES MOINES — Senator Bernie Sanders has opened up a lead in Iowa just over a week before the Democratic caucuses, consolidating support from liberals and benefiting from divisions among more moderate presidential candidates who are clustered behind him, according to a New York Times/Siena College poll of likely caucusgoers.
Mr. Sanders has gained six points since the last Times-Siena survey, in late October, and is now capturing 25 percent of the vote in Iowa. Pete Buttigieg, the former mayor of South Bend, Ind., and former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. have remained stagnant since the fall, with Mr. Buttigieg capturing 18 percent and Mr. Biden 17 percent.
The rise of Mr. Sanders has come at the expense of his fellow progressive, Senator Elizabeth Warren: she dropped from 22 percent in the October poll, enough to lead the field, to 15 percent in this survey. Senator Amy Klobuchar, who is garnering 8 percent, is the only other candidate approaching double digits.
Live Updates
There are eight days until the Iowa caucuses. Follow our reporters live on the campaign trail.The changing fortunes of the leading candidates underscores the volatile nature of the primary after more than a year of campaigning, as voters wrestle with which candidate can defeat President Trump. Despite the ascent of Mr. Sanders, a self-described democratic socialist, the poll also highlighted the combined appeal of the centrists: 55 percent of those surveyed said they preferred a standard-bearer who is “more moderate than most Democrats.” Just 38 percent said they wanted one who is “more liberal than most Democrats.”
As the strength of the other leading candidates has ebbed and flowed, Mr. Sanders, making his second run for the White House, appears to be peaking at the right time. This month was the first time he has finished atop a poll in Iowa, after also leading a Des Moines Register-CNN survey two weeks ago. The Times-Siena poll’s margin of error was plus or minus 4.8 percentage points.A victory by Mr. Sanders in Iowa, where he suffered a narrow loss to Hillary Clinton four years ago, would represent a remarkable comeback for a 78-year-old candidate whose heart attack in October threatened to upend his candidacy. It would also create a moment of high anxiety for establishment-aligned Democrats who are deeply alarmed about a potential Sanders nomination.
Should he prevail in Iowa and face a similarly fractured field of mainstream rivals in New Hampshire, where he also currently leads in the polls, Mr. Sanders could be difficult to slow.
Several voters who backed Mr. Sanders cited the consistency of his positions over the course of his career, and their ideological alignment with his views.
“Bernie’s authentic,” said Austin Sturch, 25, of Evansdale, adding, “Pretty much everything he’s saying — I can’t put it better than he can.”
Need a Recap?
Here’s what happened on the campaign trail this week.Still, much here remains uncertain. Iowa voters are famous for settling on a candidate late, and this year is no different; Mr. Sanders, along with the other senators in the race, is pinned down in Washington during Mr. Trump’s impeachment trial and unable to campaign here on weekdays.
And the final results could turn on two factors that will not be known until caucus night: the size and composition of the electorate, and the preferences of voters whose first choices are eliminated because of the arcane caucus rules.
If the other leading candidates finish bunched together on caucus night on Feb. 3, it is unlikely any of them will drop out of the race after Iowa. Each of the three top hopefuls trailing Mr. Sanders has the money to compete in New Hampshire, which is just a week later.And should no clear moderate alternative to Mr. Sanders emerge from the early nominating states, the self-financing Michael R. Bloomberg, who has already spent more than $260 million on advertising and hired more than 1,000 staff members, is awaiting the field on Super Tuesday in early March….
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wvParticipantRogan said he’d probly vote for Bernie
January 27, 2020 at 8:25 am in reply to: Eating locally-sourced foods does not help climate change… #110737
wvParticipantInteresting that eating chicken has a much lower carbon footprint than beef.
We are doomed if people have to give up cheese to save the planet.
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wvParticipantI did not know that. I was sure you were gonna post the Dick Dale thing:
wvParticipantWell, i could be wrong, but Trumps base was more than just one faction. It was more than the Southern Racists, it was more than the angry white working-class men.
There was also a big faction of Wealthy, educated white men. I think.I assume the different factions had different reasons for preferring Trump to Hillary. I really dont think its too hard to figure out those reasons.
Why did white working men prefer Reagan? Bush? Is Trump really a special case?
Hillary got the most votes, of course. But ya know, that dont matter in an American election.
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wvParticipant…well, you could move to Spain.
Then again, maybe not.
“It was in Spain that [my generation] learned that one can be right and yet be beaten, that force can vanquish spirit, that there are times when courage is not its own recompense. It is this, doubtless, which explains why so many, the world over, feel the Spanish drama as a personal tragedy.”
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By Evan Halper, Janet Hook
Jan. 20, 2020
DES MOINES —The day after Joe Biden announced he would not run for president in 2016, some supporters in Iowa did a surprising thing: They volunteered for their second-choice candidate — Bernie Sanders.
It was an early indication of a counterintuitive dynamic at work four years later, now that the two men are running against each other. They are locked in an ideological struggle for Democrats’ 2020 nomination that pits the politically moderate Biden, a classic party insider, against the liberal Sanders, a blow-up-the-system outsider. And yet they appeal to some of the same voters.
Both campaigns believe there is a swath of voters — mostly white, working-class voters, including those who voted for Donald Trump in 2016 after backing Barack Obama twice — who are torn between Biden and Sanders, the race’s old-timers. Both men’s campaigns are fishing in that electoral pond as each candidate looks to expand his base in a tight contest.
“There are a lot of working-class voters who are up for grabs, and it is increasingly Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders who they are deciding between,” said Ro Khanna, a co-chair of the Sanders campaign. “The more working class, the better Bernie does. And that is where we run into contention with Biden.”
For all the punditry about candidates competing to dominate in ideological lanes — and the recent attention on the personal feud between the left’s marquee candidates, Sanders and Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren — the competition between Sanders and Biden reflects how voters’ decision-making is often far more nuanced, and divorced from standard political labels.
“They’re both scrappy,” said Sean Bagniewski, chairman of the Democratic Party in Polk County, Iowa, which includes Des Moines. “Ideology isn’t as important as the personality. To a lot of folks, they feel like they know and can trust both Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders, regardless of the ideological stuff.”
The latest Morning Consult/Politico poll of likely Democratic primary voters nationwide found that among Biden supporters, 29% said that Sanders was their second choice, more than any other Democrat in the race. Other polls show the two candidates in competition for the lead among non-college-educated white and Latino voters.
With the rivalry among top Democrats so intense, the Sanders campaign sees a clearer path to poaching voters from the Biden coalition than to exploiting what would seem the more obvious target of voters supporting Warren, Sanders’ ideological soulmate.
“The Sanders folks realize the progressives with Warren are with her and there is no point in trying to out-progressive her,” said Patrick Murray, director of the Monmouth University Polling Institute. “They need to find voters making a decision on a dimension other than ideology.”
The Biden campaign is taking nothing for granted. It believes his edge over Sanders, as well as other rivals, is the perception that the former vice president is the most likely to beat Trump.
“When it comes to voters making up their minds, particularly in Iowa and New Hampshire, the perceived narrow ideological lanes aren’t as clear as anyone would expect,” said Pete Kavanaugh, Biden’s deputy campaign manager.
Many blue-collar Democrats attracted to Biden remain uncommitted, and their interest in what Murray calls “an old-school, working-class Democrat who fights for you” creates an opening for Sanders. “Biden and Sanders share this sense that they both came through the school of hard knocks,” he said.
For Sanders, who must expand his base of support beyond the die-hards who will be with him no matter what, that large group of uncommitted working-class voters offers perhaps his best opportunity.
Khanna noted the parallels between these men who seem to have so little in common. “Biden was born in Scranton [Pa.]. He is a person who can connect with anyone he meets. He comes off as someone who doesn’t look down at people, who is still a regular person, even though he was vice president,” Khanna said. “It is a great skill, and it is genuine.”
And Sanders, Khanna continued, grew up with immigrant parents in a rent-controlled building and is the furthest from the elites of anyone in the race, which is why farmers, factory workers and service employees in hardscrabble communities pack his events.
The Sanders campaign hesitates to revive the “beer track” label that some Washington pundits have used to describe blue-collar workers who fit the mold of the Sanders-Biden crossover voters. But it is clear those are the voters they are after.
Such voters “are looking for someone to believe in,” said Chuck Rocha, a former union officer who is a senior advisor to the Sanders campaign. “It just happens those people don’t buy a lot of wine and they don’t own a lot of lobbyists and are not really rich.” As if to punctuate the point, senior Sanders staffers arrived at last month’s Democratic debate in Los Angeles wearing T-shirts that mocked the fundraiser of another rival, former South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg. “Pete’s Wine Cave,” the shirts read.
Buttigieg is very much on what some political handicappers call the “wine track,” with supporters who tend to be college-educated and more affluent. These voters also swerve in and out of ideological lanes. Many lean toward Warren, whose platform for a vastly expanded government and wholesale economic realignment looks nothing like Buttigieg’s moderate agenda. Indeed, the crossover between the two is much like that for Biden and Sanders. A staple at Buttigieg and Warren events are voters wavering between them.
“I’m struck by how many yards have both Buttigieg and Warren signs in them,” Bagniewski said of his neighborhood in Des Moines, known as Beaverdale and home to many urban professionals. He said both candidates represented that “new generation” of leadership that attracts voters in communities like his. Warren may be 70 years old and building her movement around New Deal-style policies, he said, but “she’s seen as a progressive who might not have some of the baggage Joe Biden or Bernie Sanders or other folks might have from previous cycles.”
Warren and Buttigieg are sensitive to how their appeal is defined. For example, Warren’s feud with Sanders was sparked by a script the Sanders campaign gave to its canvassers in multiple states suggesting to voters that Warren’s appeal is confined to “highly educated, more affluent people,” and not broad enough to win in November.
Even as Sanders competes for liberal voters with the like-minded Warren, the battle with Biden for more populist working-class types goes on. In the industrial and rural communities of eastern Iowa, where voters who supported Obama twice and then crossed over to Trump are not uncommon, it is Biden and Sanders going particularly hard after votes.
The Sanders team has focused on contrasting the candidates’ records, charging that Biden has morphed from Main Street to Wall Street Democrat, one who will sell them out on Social Security and healthcare, entangle America in foreign wars and make bad trade deals.
“Biden ran as one of us, as somebody who understands the middle class,” Rocha said of Biden’s campaign theme dating to his first Senate election in 1972. The Biden of today “has not been nearly as consistent as Sen. Sanders has been.”
The Biden campaign counters by emphasizing the former vice president’s popularity across party lines, and warning that a nominee from the left could push swing voters to Trump.
It’s an argument that resonates with Des Moines retiree Bruce Koeppel, one of those volunteers who enlisted with Sanders when Biden didn’t run in 2016. Back then, Sanders’ big plans for healthcare drew Koeppel in, but this year, he cares less about policy preferences and more about backing the candidate he believes can defeat Trump.
“I like Bernie. I’ve liked him a long time, but he can’t win,” Koeppel said. “I think the vice president has the best chance to beat the president. And we have to beat the president.”
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Most coordinators are two column guys: one run, one pass.They think in their head,
“I haven’t called a run in awhile.”
They go over to the run column and spin the roulette wheel, call whatever run the ball lands on…
Then back to the pass column.
Kyle Shannahan as an offensive coordinator: Everything fits together like a puzzle.
He’s a one column offense coordinator, plays flow together like a story…
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Well zn, you called it back when he was hired. You said he was gonna be topnotch.
Why did you think that?McVay is good, but what if he ends up being the worst coach in the division 🙂
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vJanuary 20, 2020 at 5:00 pm in reply to: informal poll–how far away are the Rams from contending again? #110589
wvParticipantWell they almost beat SF this year.
They are an OLine away from ‘contending’. Its only one Unit, but man, its a big fat critical unit.
To actually win a Ring, I’m not sure the combo of Gurley/Henderson is enuff.
So, i dunno. Maybe.
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wvParticipantIf I’m not mistaken the Packers also got humiliated by
Kaepernik’s ground game a while back, in the Playoffs.
Didnt he run, for like, a million yards against them?w
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wvParticipantI hope the chiefs matriculate all over san francisco.
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wvParticipantJimmyG throws EIGHT passes?
Has he revolutionized the game?
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wvParticipantAnything is better than the cheaters. 😉
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Well, I cant see the Astros making the Super Bowl this year.
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wvParticipantKatie Halper on…fox news.
wvParticipantId be curious to see where Marcus Peters ranked ?
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