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July 10, 2016 at 9:28 pm in reply to: Matt Waldman talks QBs, Goff. Podcast (+ some Goff vids) #48423
InvaderRamModeratorall i know is that a pretty consistent critique of bradford was poor pocket presence so if goff can at least be bradford with good pocket presence the rams should be good at that position. and if he can stay healthy as well.
InvaderRamModeratorwhat a coinkydink.
July 8, 2016 at 9:00 am in reply to: St.Paul, now this…it is a bad day…snipers shoot Dallas police during protest #48227
InvaderRamModeratorwe’re all a big fat failure.
InvaderRamModeratorToo early to know. But we do know they do not protect. That was settled by the US Supreme Court some time ago.
well it should be their function.
InvaderRamModeratorHow very sad. Two things Sterling did wrong according to what I read above. First, don’t resist arrest. Not complying immediately can be interpreted as resisting arrest. Common sense dictates that you comply and not escalate the situation. Second, immediately inform the officer that you are carrying a firearm. This is taught over and over in carry class. You have to do so by law I suppose in most states but the reason is to not escalate the situation. If in a car hand the officer your carry permit with your drivers license.
tell that to philando. he did not resist arrest. he had his hands in the air. he informed the officer that he was carrying a firearm and had a conceal carry permit. he went to reach for his wallet after informing him of this, and the policeman still shot him.
it’s about more than that. there’s a reason black people are targeted more than white people. not just in killings. but arrests. getting pulled over for no apparent reason other than the fact that they are black.
i know law enforcement officers are under a great deal of stress. i empathize with the amount of shit they have to go through on a daily basis. but something has to change in the way do their job. innocent people are needlessly dying. and not just in cases where people are dying. cases where people are getting pulled over for no other reason than the color of their skin.
I don’t know why they were pulled over. Perhaps a BOLO was out that the officer was looking into? Only the officer can say. I haven’t seen the beginning of the encounter but if true then the policeman has a lot of explaining to do.
Judging from what was said by the woman in the car as well as what the officer is heard saying apparently the victims hands were the issue. Always keep your hands in full view of the officer and move slowly away from your body. Make sure you know what the officer wants you to do with your hands. On the dashboard? On and behind your head? On the door window frame? Then there’s whatever the woman was doing that the officer had to account for too. So much of this is common sense.
I’ve heard police departments are getting training from Israeli security force personnel which I would think are at odds with what americans expect as law enforcement.
he was pulled over for a minor traffic violation. that’s it. the woman said he was following the officer’s orders to the t.
i think it’s highly possible this cop was suffering from ptsd. i also think that law enforcement needs to rethink their training. they serve and protect the citizens.
InvaderRamModeratorpolice are trained to always be on alert. everything. everyone is viewed as potentially lethal. they are on a emotional high during their job only to go on an emotional low when they come home. they feel isolated from people who can’t relate to the emotions and stress that they go through every day. and form bonds with those that do. they are trained to extinguish any potential threat. not to evaluate. not to deescalate. but to eliminate any potential threat. they are told their safety is paramount when it should be the citizens they were hired to protect.
combine that with prejudices that they already hold which come from society.
it’s a powder keg. something needs to change.
InvaderRamModeratorhttp://emotionalsurvival.com/brotherhood_of_biochemistry.htm
Hypervigilance
Consider how the police role is developed in young cops. It begins with the manner in which law enforcement officers are required to view the world. If you take cops in Anytown, USA, and put them behind the wheel of a patrol unit, they are required to view the streets and the community from a different perspective than citizen drivers. Cops realize that “I better pay attention out here! I could get my butt kicked or get somebody else or myself killed if I’m not paying attention!” This reality forces young officers to take a different view of the world from civilians. When viewing the world while in this new work role, officers experience a new physiological sensation, an increase in alertness, an increased sensation of energy and aliveness. This new perceptual style goes beyond just “paying attention.” It includes looking, and watching sections of the community that other people would ignore or consider neutral. In the interest of their own safety, officers have to view all encounters as potentially lethal. This newfound perceptual style, with its emphasis on officer safety, carries with it a parallel physiological and psychological state. As mentioned previously, young officers feel increased sensations of energy, aliveness, and alertness. They find themselves becoming quick-witted in the presence of fellow street cops. Friendships develop quickly, and camaraderie is intensified among people with whom they share potential jeopardy. During the developmental years, young officers experience firsthand the physiological stress reaction, but it is not seen as a negative reaction. On duty, the associated sensation of physiological intensity is viewed as pleasant and enjoyable. They find their job so attractive that it is difficult to leave at the end of a shift. What is unwittingly taking place is that young officers are developing an on-duty style of hypervigilance. This style, though necessary for the survival of law enforcement officers, often leads to the long-term destruction of an effective personal life. Officers go on duty, experience increased energy, alertness, quick-wittedness, and camaraderie, and enjoy their tour. However, for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Officers who experience an on-duty physiological “high” find that when they get off duty and return home, this hypervigilant reaction stops, as they literally plunge into the opposite reactions of detachment, exhaustion, apathy, and isolation. Thus officers experience the police stress reaction, an emotional ride on a biological roller coaster.The “biological” roller coaster describes the extreme psycho physiological swings that police officers experience on a daily basis. One can assume that average citizens live on a more even keel, but police officers are denied this stability. Because of the degree of emotional intensity of law enforcement, the increased sensations of alertness required while on duty, followed by reactions of an equal magnitude in the opposite directions while off duty the police officer’s life is characterized by the extremes of highs and lows. This pendulum-like swing occurs daily. Going to work initiates an increased sensation of involvement, energy, and alertness, coming home, a sensation of apathy, detachment and boredom. The biological reason this roller coaster takes place lies in the autonomic nervous system that controls all the body’s automatic processes: heart rate, blood pressure, body temperature, and so on. The autonomic nervous system has two branches that act in tandem. Sympathetic branch alerts the body to potentially intense situations, causing increased alertness, awareness, and the “fight or flight reaction” (like taking a bunch of “uppers”). The Parasympathetic branch controls the body’s quiescent or peaceful counter-reactions (like bunch of “downers”). This biological roller coaster cycles daily for young officers in the first years of their careers as they polish police skills. It produces high-activity, highly involved police officers, but leaves them with under involved, apathetic personal lives. It can be said in no uncertain terms that the first victims of this biological roller coaster are not the officers themselves, but their families. The officers alternate between being “Heat Seekers” at work, where the more intense the call, the more they’re drawn to it, and being “couch potatoes at home. Once the police role is unplugged, there remains only a listless detachment from anything related to a personal life.
The “couch potato” phase of the biological roller coaster can be documented easily by interviewing police spouses during the first decade of the officer’s career. Although the faces and names change the stories remain almost identical.
“She’s different now that she’s a cop. We used to do so many things together, but now she gets off duty and I can’t even speak to her.”“He comes home from work, collapses on the couch, turns on the television set-I can talk to him for five minutes and he doesn’t even hear me.”
“You know, we drove 150 miles last weekend to go visit my mom and dad. I don’t think she said two words to me on the whole trip.”“We walk through the mall on his days off and he barely grunts to me, but then he sees two or three of his buddies working off-duty and you can’t shut him up-. ‘Hey, what happened last night? Did you guys arrest that asshole? I heard you come up on the air.”‘
As officers begin experiencing the biological roller-coaster ride, they begin heavily investing in the police role. Their family and personal relationships become thin, frazzled, and very fragile. The police spouse laments:“I don’t know how much longer I can keep this family together. He comes home angry every night: “Everybody on earth is an asshole.”‘
“I swear she’d rather be at work than at home. She starts getting ready for work two hours before she has to be there. Sometimes I think she’s married to the job and not to me.”
The police family begins reverberating with this biological roller-coaster
Police officers’ life-styles change drastically. These elevated sensations while on duty are necessary. Officers do not have the luxury of viewing the world as primarily peaceful and benign. Officers’ very existence depends on their being able to perceive situations from the perceptual set of hypervigilance. They must interpret aspects of their environment as potentially lethal that other members of society see as unimportant. Without hypervigilance, police officers would be seen as “not good cops.” However, the tragedy is that while law enforcement officers are trained to react during the upper phase of the biological roller coaster, there has been very little training done or education provided on how to adapt to or avoid the pitfalls of the bottom half of the ride. In the first decade of a police career, the valleys of the roller-coaster ride destroy the emotional support systems and the family support systems; -systems that will become increasingly important if officers are to survive the second half of a police career.…
The Lives of Cops
After approximately two years on the job, officers are riding this biological roller coaster daily and consider most of the outside world “assholes.” While these two reactions are going on, however, officers are typically doing-their job, have high on-site activity, are enjoying police work, and in many-ways, although still quite naive to the realities of the long-terms effects of a police career, could be experiencing the “golden years” of their own individual law enforcement career. They enjoy going to work, they are highly energized and enthusiastic, enjoy coworkers, and will state “I love my job.” This fragile lifestyle and paranoid way of perceiving the world will typically come crashing down on officers in the not too distant future. Officers find themselves staying away from home for longer and longer periods of time. If the shift ends at midnight, cops realize that once they walk through the doors of their house, the exhaustion, apathy, and bottom half of the roller coaster will hit them hard; unwittingly they spend more time away from home. Younger officers in smaller police departments find themselves going down to the department on their days off just to see what’s happening. The economic realities of police management can be quite exploitative of young cops’ over-invested, biological enthusiasm. Sometimes the hardest thing about managing young cops is not in getting them to come to work but in getting them to go home. Many small police departments actually could not exist without this over-investment by young officers and also by non-reimbursed reserve officers whose only payment is a ride on the biological roller coaster. These officers have over-learned the social perceptual style that comes with assuming a police role. The longer they are cops, the more they interact only with other cops, all learning to see the world in only one manner.Young officers continue to over-invest in their police role. For the first few years, this over-investment leads to an exciting, enjoyable, dynamic job. Very often, early in their police careers, officers not only isolate themselves from non-police friends, but also overindulge in their professional role by listening to scanners while off duty or on days off. One of the potential hazards of this over-identifying and over-investing in the police role is financial. From the beginning, cops learn the financial realities of a police career: “You’re never gonna get rich being a cop.” Off-duty work can be an extremely seductive lure for many police families. Officers can provide the necessities and a few extra luxuries of life by working an extra two or three shifts per week, either as security at the local shopping mall or doing point control for construction projects. Although the extra cash certainly helps, the additional time away from home spent in the police role continues the officers’ over-investment and leaves little time for them to develop competencies in other social roles and to build a personal life for themselves and their family.
This over-investment in the police role goes beyond justifiable pride in the profession. Officers begin linking their sense of self-worth to the police role in what at first glance appears to be a basically benign sense of pride. However, this creates an intense form of emotional vulnerability for average police officers. When you ask a group of cops who controls their police role, young cops often say, “I do.” The older, wiser cops respond, “I wish I did.
This link of self-worth to the police role creates a social dynamic that turns many enthusiastic, energized police officers into cynical, recalcitrant employees who resist administrative direction. As their police role is altered by external administrative authorities and the inevitable decline occurs, their sense of self-worth also takes a tumble. Police officers do not control their police role and must admit, upon reflection, that it is controlled by administrative authorities. Not until after the first several years of police work do the realities of this type of administrative control hit home. Then there is a “rude awakening.” This vulnerability is particularly salient to specialized police officers-the narcotics agent, canine officer, or detective in some special assignment
This psychological phenomena of having your sense of self-worth controlled by other individuals leads to very normal feelings of defensiveness and resistance. This linkage explains why police officers, after the first few years, may grow to resent administrative authority, mainly because they are so vulnerable to the changes that can take place in their police role. This resentment and resistance to administrative control leads to an occupational pseudo-paranoia, in which officers begin making such statements as: “I can handle the assholes on the street but I can’t handle the assholes in the administration.” Although the streets contain physical danger, the major psychological and emotional threat comes from those who control their police role, with its emotionally over-invested sense of self-worth.
InvaderRamModeratori know law enforcement officers are under a great deal of stress. i empathize with the amount of shit they have to go through on a daily basis. but something has to change in the way do their job…
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Do you think the wrong kind of ‘qualities’ are being sought after
by the folks that hire cops?Maybe the powers-that-hire have over-emphasized things like size and strength and military background and shooting ability, at the expense
of…oh…diplomacy, etc.w
vi think it’s a problem. nothing against people from the military, but my understanding is they are trained to follow orders. they’re not really trained in evaluating a situation and making decisions based on what they observe. so yeah. diplomacy would be very much a positive trait in an officer that is perhaps being overlooked. critical thinking would also be important.
but also. i’m wondering if psych evals need to be more stringent on these guys. being hypervigilant for that much time is going to fry one’s brain. they need to be evaluated for ptsd and appropriate measures need to be taken if they can’t perform their jobs adequately.
InvaderRamModeratorHow very sad. Two things Sterling did wrong according to what I read above. First, don’t resist arrest. Not complying immediately can be interpreted as resisting arrest. Common sense dictates that you comply and not escalate the situation. Second, immediately inform the officer that you are carrying a firearm. This is taught over and over in carry class. You have to do so by law I suppose in most states but the reason is to not escalate the situation. If in a car hand the officer your carry permit with your drivers license.
tell that to philando. he did not resist arrest. he had his hands in the air. he informed the officer that he was carrying a firearm and had a conceal carry permit. he went to reach for his wallet after informing him of this, and the policeman still shot him.
it’s about more than that. there’s a reason black people are targeted more than white people. not just in killings. but arrests. getting pulled over for no apparent reason other than the fact that they are black.
i know law enforcement officers are under a great deal of stress. i empathize with the amount of shit they have to go through on a daily basis. but something has to change in the way do their job. innocent people are needlessly dying. and not just in cases where people are dying. cases where people are getting pulled over for no other reason than the color of their skin.
InvaderRamModeratorhttp://www.cnn.com/2015/11/29/us/criminal-justice-racism-cnn-kff-poll/index.html
Terms such as “driving while black” and “walking while black” have been coined, with studies showing that blacks are pulled over, questioned or arrested by police at a disproportionately higher rate than white Americans.
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InvaderRamModeratorwhat a tough tough situation.
for what it’s worth i don’t think these cops are necessarily bad or racist per se. i don’t think they intentionally killed this guy. or maybe they did in this case but i’m not sure it is necessarily true in every case. that paragraph explaining how cops shoot black suspects more often in game situations and how there might some subconscious bias going on. that makes a lot of sense to me. whether we like it or not we have stereotypes hammered into our brains on a daily basis. and what does that say about our society as a whole? i don’t think we are as enlightened as we would like to believe. now maybe some of these cops were consciously racist and intended to harm. that’s certainly very possible. but i also think the former is true in other cases.
also i’m glad i’m not a cop. my wife’s friend’s dad was a sheriff, and he saw so many screwed up things in his life that he’s now permanently on tranquilizers just so he can get through the day. i think there needs to be stringent policies on psychological evaluations of these cops. are they being put on the streets when they are unable to perform their duties effectively putting lives in danger?
in the end when you’re a cop you’re given a tremendous amount of power. and i think because of that you need to be held to a higher level of responsibility. the law enforcement officer’s relationship to a citizen is not an equal one and it seems like maybe they are being given too much leeway. being given that kind of power and that kind of freedom can be dangerous. we need to make sure they are fit to perform their duties effectively.
but again. and this may not be a popular opinion but i sympathize with a lot of these cops. it’s a tough job. not the racist abusive ones. they need to pay for their crimes. but the good ones. they perform a job i never could.
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July 6, 2016 at 12:40 am in reply to: Trump Fights Racism yet the Leftists Lie and Cry Racism #47958
InvaderRamModeratori think trump is an elitist. and a nationalist. and a xenophobe. it’s a form of racism i think.
i don’t think he’d have a problem with rich mexicans and muslims and other minorities coming to this country. females. as long as they fit his elitist definition. he wouldn’t have a problem with them either.
but poor immigrants. white or black. or any other ethnicity. he’d like to see them all go i’m sure.
July 5, 2016 at 6:36 pm in reply to: 2016 Will Be Important For These Contract-Year Players on Los Angeles Rams #47932
InvaderRamModeratormy guess is.
mcdonald is not re-signed. they are able to replace him in-house.
britt and quick are gone.
they try to re-sign brockers. he’s the hardest to replace of the free agents.
johnson. i hope they can work something out. they have depth there at cornerback, but he really had a good season last year. if he can reproduce that, i’d be inclined to see him stay.
InvaderRamModeratorhaven’t heard higbee’s name mentioned much in any of the ota reports. anybody read anything about how he looked?
InvaderRamModeratori said it before, and i’m going to keep saying it. i think his effect on ogletree could be a very positive one.
and not necessarily just in terms of knowledge of the defense. cuz i’m sure it’s changed since singletary was playing in this defense for the bears. but just the attitude at the middle linebacker position. i’m just hoping he becomes a mentor to ogletree and can help him get to the next level. to be a leader as well as a playmaker for this defense.
June 29, 2016 at 7:16 pm in reply to: PFF opinion: Rodgers Is Still The Nfl’s Top Quarterback #47475
InvaderRamModeratorgeez. i wish a rams qb could have a season as good as the season rodgers had in 2015, and that was easily one of his worst.
InvaderRamModerator“The greatest mystery is not that we have been flung at random between this profusion of matter and the stars, but that within this prison we can draw from ourselves images powerful enough to deny our nothingness.” Les Noyers de l’Altenburg: Andre Malraux
that pretty much encapsulates what i think of life.
you’re right too. i wouldn’t WANT to see this planet destroyed. can’t punish other living things for our mistakes.
i do think what will ultimately happen is the rise of the machines type scenario where robots become sentient and become the dominant life form on this planet. but it won’t be a violent uprising like the terminator. and then they will live in the peaceful communist regime billy_t has been yearning for. hahahaha!
InvaderRamModeratori don’t know. just cuz i think it’s hopeless doesn’t necessarily mean i want to stop trying while i’m still alive.
InvaderRamModeratori think we’re at a point of no return. this world has 2 options.
either we somehow get off this planet which i think is a real possibility. and somehow humanity is able to keep stumbling forward.
or we destroy this planet. or the planet is destroyed by some cataclysmic non-human event.
right now i’m hoping for the latter.
InvaderRamModeratorrams players are gonna get a lot of positive press this season. not sure how i feel about that.
InvaderRamModeratorsingletary as a mentor for ogletree. i can’t say that i hate the idea.
InvaderRamModeratorplus that 2012 offense lacked a young more explosive steven jackson. hopefully gurley is better than a 2012 steven jackson.
InvaderRamModeratori think i liked it best in 2012 when they had jackson, amendola, kendricks, and bradford.
there was a good synergy going there. kendricks was able to accentuate jackson and amendola because of his ability to do a bunch of different things.
and i think last year what was missing was that receiving threat that amendola presented.
they’ve got gurley. they’ve got kendricks. just waiting for that amendola type guy (maybe that’s cooper) to get that same dynamic. i don’t think it’ll be austin although i do think austin will offer a dimension that the 2012 offense lacked.
but if they can get that receiver than i think kendricks will be able to facilitate the running and passing game like you said by disguising the formations. not knowing if they’ll be passing or running.
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InvaderRamModeratori say this a lot. but i got a good feeling about this receiving corps.
i think this year will be different.
InvaderRamModeratoror maybe not.
InvaderRamModeratorthat is incredible stuff. wow. even more incredible no one has thought of it yet.
InvaderRamModeratorif robert quinn can come back healthy and find his 2013 form, that trio is top 3. at least.
if i’m not mistaken, donald was ranked the best player period in 2015 by pff. and quinn in 2013 ranked the second best player period by pff.
period. as in offensive and defensive players. in fact the two have posted the highest grades at their positions since pff started grading players. i’m pretty sure of that.
and trujo is pretty good too. i think pff gave him some exceptional marks last year.
of course that’s just one source but still pretty impressive.
InvaderRamModeratordon’t worry. robot cars will be coming soon and will pretty much eliminate automobile related fatalities.
but then we gotta worry about the singularity. oh yeah. it’s coming…
InvaderRamModeratorto be clear. i really don’t have a dog in the fight.
but it’s becoming clearer that this society is mentally ill. in so many ways. so no. i don’t think that we need to throw assault rifles into a society that is so mentally ill. we really are. poverty, fear, intolerance is so rampant that we’re turning on each other. so yeah i think to myself maybe it’s time we toss aside some of our wants and desires and focus more on trying to heal ourselves.
guns are just part of it though. how about living in a society where economic disparity isn’t so disparate. where everyone has access to healthcare – both mental and physical. where everyone has access to a good education. how about living under a government that isn’t so militarized. and maybe this is all being unrealistic. but that’s a society i would want to live in. do i think it’s going to happen? probably not. my confidence in humans is at an all time low.
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