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InvaderRamModeratorgood to see ya, dak. not a big hockey fan but wishing the blues good luck. it’d be nice to see them have some postseason success. finally!
May 14, 2016 at 11:21 am in reply to: what do you think Goff's ceiling is compared to other Rams qbs? #44022
InvaderRamModeratori think he can be better than bradford.
he’s got his size quick release and accuracy.
but then he has him beat in pocket presence coming out of college.
i also think we see sizable increases in his arm strength over the next 2 seasons as he adds bulk.
but we don’t know about his decision making skills in a league that’s faster and more sophisticated. we also don’t know about his obsession with being the best. those two things will determine how high his ceiling can be.
InvaderRamModeratorI’m fine with it . He’s accurate goes through his progressions can handle adversity , he’s young and learns quickly and there is no quit he just keeps coming back tough as nails. I was a Wentz guy due to my ND. connection but Goff has grown on me,the guy has made some mind blowing throws is durable and he will get better.
yeah. i think his durability is very impressive. he got hammered his freshman year and came back.
he faced pressure throughout his career and still put up numbers.
i do worry about shoulder surgery he had after his freshman season but hasn’t had any problems since then.
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InvaderRamModeratorbut mind you i do like goff. in a lot of ways i like him more than wentz. and in some ways i think he’s got a higher ceiling than wentz. i don’t think lynch will ever be better than him. but if he was as good as a flacco and goff was the caliber of a manning (eli that is!) i would be a little irritated.
but who knows? some had him rated higher than winston and mariota coming out.
and like i said if it was between bradford and goff i’d go goff. shoot. if it was between goff and suh i’d want goff. and i was in the suh camp back then.
just not a big fan of giving up draft picks.
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InvaderRamModeratoreh. well. looks like he’s playing more on the outside. although. that opens up opportunities for cooper inside.
i suppose having the both of them on the field at the same time will give defenses that much more to think about and take pressure off jared.
still i wanna see something along the lines of 70 receptions this season from tavon. i think that’s within reach. hopefully now that he’s got a high caliber qb the two of them can get some chemistry going. especially with goff’s accuracy.
and maybe in return that opens things up for todd and tavon in the running game as well.
and then cooper can fill that slot role that’s seemingly been vacant since danny left.
now wouldn’t that be something?
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InvaderRamModeratorthing is. for me. it can’t just be a 10-15 yr qb. not for how much they had to give up. he’s gonna have to be better than ryan or manning. he’s gonna have to be drew brees good to ever think that trade was worth it. either that or lynch is gonna have to blow chunks.
InvaderRamModeratori just want to say in that montana interview. higbee looks huge! and not just huge but really really long! here’s hoping that he’ll be a success and will stay out of trouble.
InvaderRamModeratorcoop and higbee. let’s hope. rookie qb, rookie slot receiver, rookie pass catching tight end.
yikes!
InvaderRamModeratorwell unless something changes my guess is going to be rams fans will need to “be patient”.
probably not until next season when hopefully as you wrote one of this year’s rookies steps up next year.
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InvaderRamModeratorlike i said i have no idea what i’m talking about really. just thinking out loud. just think it’s too early to label him as just a hybrid weapon. i think he can do those things while also developing other parts of his game. maybe he doesn’t. but i’m hoping he can.
although i concede that saying he could be goff’s go to receiver was going a little overboard. i’m just a little anxious about how goff will do his rookie year. feel like he’s gonna need the receivers to step up. don’t think the rookies are gonna be up for it. not this year. austin seems like their best chance.
InvaderRamModeratorok. maybe go to is stretching it.
i also don’t know what percentage of what routes he was running.
but maybe being a more reliable target and diversifying his route running.
i could see him getting 70 receptions and 50 carries while also increasing his yards per reception as a result.
InvaderRamModeratori don’t know if you’re just joking about the 235 pound bit but i definitely think he can get up to 230 pounds.
i don’t know. the pick itself i’m on board with although i still silently protest the trade.
his career is going to depend on so many other things that i can’t predict. i mean i thought sam could have been the long term qb for the rams but injuries and numerous system changes did him in.
i will say this. i think he’s a better prospect than sam coming out of college.
still opposed to the trade though.
InvaderRamModeratori do see his value as a hybrid weapon.
but my point is his abilities as a receiver and i do think they’re being written off somewhat.
not that being a hybrid weapon is bad. but i think he could have more to contribute as a receiver.
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InvaderRamModeratori think he’s a very good safety.
but if there’s one thing i trust about this coaching staff it’s their ability to find and develop defensive backs.
i really like this brian randolph kid from tennessee. he could be a real steal.
having said that i think losing mcleod could potentially be the free agent loss that hurts the most.
InvaderRamModeratormy guess is the rams don’t miss long. at all.
i do worry about laurinaitis. jenkins too but i really like gaines.
mcleod could really really hurt though.
May 11, 2016 at 12:25 pm in reply to: John Clayton & others: how soon will Goff be ready to start #43872
InvaderRamModeratorFormer NFL quarterback Kurt Warner, who led the St. Louis Rams to a Super Bowl victory, said the act of dropping back to pass is more complex than most people realize. A quarterback’s drop meshes with the route timing of his receivers, so a passer will know by his own feet where his receivers are at any given point.
yeah. more than learning the technique the hard part is learning to be in sync with your receivers. that makes sense. going half speed now and speeding it up makes sense in that context.
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InvaderRamModeratorbut i also think you’re running generally the safer routes and providing a safety blanket for the qb rather than the deeper riskier routes of a wide receiver. so you don’t generally get a high yards per catch but rather high volume of catches and low yards per catch.
InvaderRamModeratori think so cuz you’re playing inside where there’s lots of traffic. so you need size or quickness but above everything else you would need toughness. but there are others here who could give you a better answer.
i also think you’re catching more underneath routes?
InvaderRamModeratorlooking at his combine numbers would seem to be a smoother athlete but not terribly explosive
InvaderRamModeratori think he underestimates the need for better receivers. even mariota and winston had 1000 yard receivers on their team their rookie years, and i don’t see who that’s going to be on the rams.
unless cooper is or thomas is a complete surprise. bradford at least had amendola. not a 1000 yard receiver but he had 80 catches that season. luck had wayne.
i think next year will be the year. when hopefully cooper and thomas are ready to step up.
InvaderRamModeratoroh brother.
InvaderRamModeratoralso when i say goff can be bradford with better pocket presence and vision that’s a compliment.
i mean imagine bradford with better pocket presence and vision…
that’s pretty good i think.
as far as supporting cast his rookie year bradford might actually have a slight edge.
he had jackson and amendola.
just think he’d be better off with a high volume pass catcher to take pressure off him. without that i don’t see his passer rating going north of 80. maybe next year if cooper and/or thomas get more experience. i actually think cooper can be that guy eventually but he needs time.
InvaderRamModeratori can only go from qbs i personally watched which is from 1995.
i definitely think he can be better than pretty tony.
now go watch him go on to be a huge flop.
InvaderRamModeratorhis red zone stats are jaw dropping. that’s what excites me the most.
and his feet in the pocket look great.
as i’ve said before bradford in the pocket could never sense where the pass rush was coming from.
i think goff could be bradford with better pocket presence and better vision. facing that much pressure and still having the ability to find receivers. he should be way ahead of sam in those departments.
InvaderRamModeratorbetter prospect than winston and mariota?
i like it.
on football outsiders they rate goff’s chances as slightly below mariota and just above aaron rodgers. wentz and winston not rated highly while russell wilson was.
but i agree with that post that says you need long term stability. whether you like fisher or not i feel like they’re almost obligated now to extend fisher. give goff stability so that he can develop properly.
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InvaderRamModeratori’m cautiously optimistic with grob.
probably the third most important player on offense?
InvaderRamModeratormy favorite player on the rams. here’s to a great year leading the offense next year.
set the standard, todd!
it will have been nearly two years since his acl injury. he should be at full powers for the start of the season.
for example look at doug martin in his first and second years after acl injury.
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InvaderRamModeratorso much of it is timing and being in the right situation.
this isn’t your usual number one pick going to a piss poor team. goff will have guys around him to help him out. as mentioned before gurley as well as a good defense.
just hope the oline is ready and wish they had a go to receiver to take pressure off him.
InvaderRamModeratoralso. as you said. ryan had roddy white his rookie year. i wish they could have signed a veteran wr or te in free agency to help goff out. a guy like ladarius green would have been nice rather than gambling on higbee and hemingway. i just wonder who goff’s safety blanket is going to be as a rookie. they can’t just rely on gurley to carry the load.
to use another example. winston not only had martin he had evans to take pressure off him. even mariota had walker who caught for over 1000 yards mariota’s rookie year. who is goff going to have?
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