Rams tweets etc. … 6/2 – 6/4

zn wrote:

Ross Tucker Podcast@RossTuckerPod
“Nobody is talking about Jared Verse…”

Sam Monson@SamMonsonNFL
I feel like people are way too low on Jared Verse all of a sudden.

He’s not Myles Garrett – duh.

But Verse would be on a list of 5 names I wrote on a blank piece of paper of dream players I’d want back in a trade if I was trading away Myles Garrett.

He’s an excellent EDGE entering year 3, so he isn’t on blockbuster money yet.

Dude’s racked up almost 160 total pressures in his first 2 regular seasons. He has 32 more across 5 playoff games.

He’s got elite power. You want this guy on your team.

Doug Farrar@NFL_DougFarrar
Jared Verse’s speed-to-power profile can be as good as any you’ll see in the NFL. When he’s in phase, it’s almost comical how he can fold blockers ass over teakettle, and he can do it from multiple gaps.

Mark Schlereth@markschlereth
Jared Verse one of the best young past rushers and all-around football players in the NFL.

Andrew Brandt@AndrewBrandt
I really like the Browns getting Verse compared to a first-round pick.
Rising young star at fixed and reasonable cost at a premium position; so much more valuable than a first-round pick (which they also got).

Factoring in contract, Verse is one of highest value players in NFL.

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“Jared Verse is a PERFECT Cleveland Brown…”

“Jared Verse is a bull-rushing, all day sucker, that wants to run through your face and watch you die.”@RossTuckerNFL discusses how the newest member of the Browns fits in Cleveland: https://t.co/IlsvuEdiUe pic.twitter.com/WNYp7ZvVVS

— Ross Tucker Podcast (@RossTuckerPod) June 2, 2026

Will never forget this 57-yard scoop & score by Jared Verse in the playoff game against the Vikings in Arizona. Thank you V8 🫡 pic.twitter.com/4gwvSg6cDI

— Stu Jackson (@StuJRams) June 1, 2026

Daniel Jeremiah@MoveTheSticks
every championship team needs a closer. You can make a case the Rams have the best closer on both sides of the ball. Down by 4- Stafford can close out the game. Up by 4-Garrett can can do the same. Elite finishers.

Mackenzie Brooks@kenzbrooksbets
Rams sack production increases 25% with Myles Garrett in our model, leading to 2 less points allowed per game translating to one more full win.

This makes the Rams most likely to get 1 seed in our model, and No. 1 in power rankings over the Seahawk

Louis Riddick@LRiddickESPN
Just in case anyone forgot. The #NFLdraft consists of more than the first round.

Having a lot of draft picks doesn’t guarantee you anything other than being at the center of the conversation about how many picks you have, and how great it must be to have so many picks.

It gives you the tools to construct a path in terms of strategy. Still have to execute the strategy of selection and development and utilization, the last part being THE most important. Something the Rams do as well as anyone in the league.

#Rams have drafted the following players that are now starters/role players…

Puca -5th rd
Higbee – 4th rd * 2016
Ferguson – 2nd rd
Alaric Jackson – UDFA
Avila – 2nd rd
McClendon Jr – 5th rd
Kyren Williams – 5th rd
Blake Corum – 3rd rd
Fiske – 2nd rd
Kobie Turner – 3rd rd
Byron Young – 3rd rd
Kam Kinchens – 3rd rd
Q Lake – 6th rd
Omar Speights – UDFA
Tyler Davis – 6th rd

They know what they are doing. They know how to develop and utilize ALL types of players.

Even non first rounders. Imagine that.

Sam Monson@SamMonsonNFL
Pressures vs sacks, let’s talk about it, let’s actually break it down as a valid discussion.

A sack is almost always a better play than a pressure in terms of results. A pressure CAN lead directly to a turnover, forcing an errant throw for an INT etc, so it’s not always, but generally, a sack on the play is a far better result for the pass rusher than a pressure would have been.

BUT, that doesn’t mean it was qualitatively a better rep from the pass rusher.

There’s a wide range of quality in the pass-rush reps that can end in a sack (same thing is true for pressures). You can whoop the LT in 1.5 seconds and smoke the QB in a way that the play never stood a chance, or you could have been dominated by your blocker, but the QB tripped over as he went by you and you touch the guy down for the stat. Box score shows those two plays as the same, but obviously, they’re not.

This is where the subjectivity that people hate has some power. It’s subjective, placing a distinction between those 2 plays, but clearly it’s directionally more correct than acting like they were the same quality of play from the rusher. That’s why PFF grades have some predictive power that other stats don’t have. They can capture some of that lost info.

That range in quality of rep, added to the small sample size, is largely why sacks aren’t a great measure of actual pass-rushing performance.

A rusher can play 1,000 snaps over a season. The difference between a solid season and an All-Pro season is 10 sacks to 20 sacks. 10 snaps. 1% of his season. Intuitively, we know that’s just a bad sample size to be leaning on.

This is why people lean on pressures so much. The guy with 10 sacks may have 80 pressures. We’re upping the sample size almost by an order of magnitude, which is in turn reducing the impact of outside variables. This is why the better indicator of FUTURE sacks is pressures, not current sack totals.

But pressures are just ‘almost’ plays.

Sure. But those almost plays aren’t necessarily an indication of any failing by the pass-rusher. I can find you dozens of pressures over a season that are qualitatively better reps from a pass rusher than some sacks.

If you whoop the LT instantly, but the QB gets the ball out quickly against a CB who got roasted off the line, you may only end up with a pressure. Hell, if you even bury the QB with a hit but he manages to blindly fling the ball out of his grasp forwards, it’s an incomplete pass and your sack becomes a pressure, even if the play was wildly risky by the QB.

The point is that you don’t always control the outcome of the play as a pass-rusher, certainly less than people want to ascribe when they’re dismissing players with high pressure totals and lower sack numbers.

People like to think of elite pass-rushers as ‘finishers’, but in reality I think that’s pretty rare, and a much lower factor in finishing than the other influences outside of the rusher’s control.

There ARE some players who ‘finish’ pressures into sacks at an unusually high or low rate over a few seasons, but they’re rare. Most players regress back to the mean in either direction after an outlier season.

None of the top 10 edge rushers over the last two seasons in terms of pressure to sack rate had an overall pass-rush win rate over 20%. And basically the only guy to rank very highly in both is Myles Garrett, arguably the best single football player in the game.

The bottom line? You want as much data as possible when you’re evaluating edge rushers. As big a sample size as you can find.

High pressure totals are a pretty good indicator of pass rushing ability. High pressure rate has signal. PFF pass-rushing grade has power.

Combine as much as you can to build the best picture of a rusher you can get, but sacks would be a few steps down on the list of data points i’d focus on if i was trying to evaluate how good a pass-rusher was.

Sacks are the goal, not the best measure of performance.

Vincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
@49ers OT Trent Williams on @RamsNFL trading for Myles Garrett: “it sucks”

For any #Rams Fans or others that still don't believe that drafting Rookie Ty Simpson was a part of the plan to eventually help them Trade for Myles Garrett,
take a listen to what former Rams Insider @JourdanRodrigue had to say…#RamsHouse

🎥 Credit: @greggrosenthal pic.twitter.com/c61ErLkv7k

— Ian (Rams Up Podcast) (@RamsUp_Ian) June 3, 2026

wv wrote:

Not sure I buy the idea that the Rams were sure they were gonna get Garrett. I mean how could they be? How did they know some other team wouldnt offer more?

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Just speculating from all the hints that are out there. First, Garrett had a no-trade clause. He had a lot of control over where he went. If he wouldn’t waive the clause, there would be no trade. That helped narrow down the teams being considered, and the Rams have become a dream team for top players who think about a new home. But also the Browns wanted a player in the trade. The Eagles were in the mix, but Cleveland asked for Jalen Carter, and Philadelphia wouldn’t do it. When the Rams agreed to consider trading Verse, it helped make them the front runners. As many people have pointed out, Verse fits in perfectly with what the Browns want to do on defense, plus he’s young and still on his relatively less expensive first contract.

And this is the same kind of situation Philadelphia had trading Brown away. They could agree to a deal early on, but then sit on it waiting for the June 1st deadline. The June 1 date let Cleveland reduce the 2026 cap hit they were going to take on Garrett’s signing bonus for trading him. That means they could agree in principle to a deal in late April, but just not say anything or act on it until June 1. If that’s the case (and there are a lot of hints that that is the case) then the Rams could be confident a few weeks back that they had a deal in principle.

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wv wrote:

Well the timing is important. They are arguing the Rams were sure at the time of the Simpson pick. And they hadnt offered Verse back then, had they?

I dunno, I guess they could have known that they were gonna offer Verse if they had to.

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I really don’t know, and you you’re probably right about Verse. But something made Jourdan say they were confident before the draft that they would get him. Here’s what Rodrigue says in the article she wrote about the trade (it’s posted in the Garrett thread):

“Nothing was officially agreed upon until a few days ago. But by the NFL Draft, the teams’ joint confidence that they’d get the trade done in large part informed the Rams’ surprising pick at No. 13, Alabama quarterback Ty Simpson, multiple team and league sources said.”