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ZooeyModeratorWe have a funny way of celebrating it.
http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2016/11/05/nightmare-dystopias-busting-out-all-over/
Hard to imagine a scene like this in the Hamptons, isn’t it?
ZooeyModeratorAll I get out of the stuff he’s doing now is that he has a personal vendetta against Clinton. That’s it.
That is what I have concluded as well.
ZooeyModeratorThe data alone disproves manmade global warming. The alarmists failed predictions disproves manmade global warming.
Yeah…no, it doesn’t.
And the fact that the United States of America is the ONLY country on earth where anybody even DEBATES this topic anymore ought to hint at something to you.
But…carry on.
If you are right, we will have spent a lot of effort making the planet a better place for nothing.
This isn’t a “hint”. Your “fact” is BS. Please do tell how your efforts make the planet “a better place”! Wow.
I am not going to argue this.
You are on the wrong side of science.
That is it. The discussion is over, as far as I am concerned. I have no interest in debating this. You are wrong. I do not care what you think. Period.
ZooeyModeratorOne British official says members of that government who are aware of the scope of Russia’s cyberattacks both in Western Europe and America found Trump’s comments “quite disturbing” because they fear that, if elected, the Republican presidential nominee would continue to ignore information gathered by intelligence services in the formulation of U.S. foreign policy.
Oh, you mean like Bush/Cheney and…the British government?
ZooeyModeratorI dont see any “Fisher Haters Of America” groups on there.
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vExactly.
So you have fallen into my trap.
Give him two more years.
ZooeyModeratorThe data alone disproves manmade global warming. The alarmists failed predictions disproves manmade global warming.
Yeah…no, it doesn’t.
And the fact that the United States of America is the ONLY country on earth where anybody even DEBATES this topic anymore ought to hint at something to you.
But…carry on.
If you are right, we will have spent a lot of effort making the planet a better place for nothing.
ZooeyModeratorYou mentioned climate change and you correctly described the years of hard work and research among many different climate scientists that led it to become a scientific consensus. Well, the same applies to GMO technology and there’s actually a bigger consensus among scientists that GMOs are safe than there is that man-made climate change is happening, yet many people, many of them highly educated, continue to believe they are unsafe or the ‘jury’s still out’.
Ennnnh, yeah. I don’t think they are comparable. Because GMOs have a lot more tangled up in them beyond just the question of whether or not they are safe.
GMOs are clouded by the fact that, currently, corporations can OWN a GMO. And there is a LOT of ugliness that comes with that simple legal aspect. If you removed ownership of GMO patents from the equation, I think you would see resistance to GMOs drop precipitously.
And it isn’t just Seed control. It’s the shaping of GMOs to tolerate widespread poisonous chemical distribution that makes people uneasy about them. It’s a bigger thing. And food is just more “personal” to begin with.
ZooeyModeratorOne other thing I’d add:
Junk Science
Whether it’s creation science, bought and paid for oil company science, a war on science and intellectualism–you name it.
The country is misled, dumbed down, and wondering in circles with bad information.
Not good.
I think what you are describing here is an ignorance that is pervasive in our society amongst people who didn’t actually absorb a sufficient amount of education.
There is a wide belief that “everyone is entitled to an opinion,” and that therefore all opinions are just more or less equal. You know, “you’ve got some facts; I’ve got some facts. We have each made up an opinion.”
I think this is what underlies the climate change denial in this country. People who deny climate change just don’t understand how scientific knowledge grows. They don’t understand academia. To some of them, academia is a bunch of “la-di-da” fancy pants who don’t live in the “real” world. Who are somehow detached from reality, and live with their heads in a cloud of big words and a sense of superiority. They don’t understand that people study the hell out of something, and take a huge risk in publishing it, opening it up to the scrutiny of really smart people all over the planet who have studied the hell out of the same thing, and are going to critique that study, and publish their opinions on it. There is a global conversation going on amongst the experts on any given subject, all the time. Theories get posited and get reviewed and re-tested and probed and prodded by experts. And consensus develops that way. That is how it works.
And along comes somebody who says, “Yeah, that’s not true! My opinion is as good as yours anyway.”
So I don’t know what you do about that. It would be nice if the media would stop pretending like all opinions need to be presented with equal weight.
ZooeyModeratorRams seek recommitment to running game
I like that headline.
It is like an Altar Call.
“…and with every head bowed, and every eye closed, who would like to recommit their lives to running the ball? When you feel the power of the rushing attack fill your soul, come on down….”
ZooeyModeratori have no idea why that is. yeah a lot of it might be a result of indoctrination or just ignorance. but i think also. on some level. humans are just pieces of shit.
i mean can clinton or trump really help who they are? they just are who they are. i don’t think they’re evil. i think they’re no more evil than the “oppressed poor people”.
they just do what they do and have no idea why they do what they do just like every other human on the planet and the result is just one big hot mess.
perhaps i’m making no sense right now. just rambling.
Which is why I think we are just doomed. This is kind of Vonnegut stuff. We are all just kind of self-absorbed and too tired to take on every complicated issue, and we just line up in shorthand ways, and bad stuff happens as a result.
ZooeyModeratorI have a slightly different take on Wealth Disparity.
I think Americans DO care about it a lot. They just don’t call it that. It is, in fact, a principal complaint of Trump supporters, but they see it as offshoring their jobs, and so on. But calling it Wealth Disparity violates their belief that “anybody can make it in America through hard work, etc.” It sounds like a “liberal” complaint, as if the solution is higher taxes, or something. So they don’t trust the term. They don’t see the connection between problems inherent in the system and where they are. They see their circumstances as exceptional to the rule somehow.
ZooeyModeratorWell said, Zooey. The CIA/NSA situation is one that i think about and talk about here at home all the time. I dunno why, i just do. I have a habit of asking people “What do you think the most powerful organization in the World is?”
And they say the Mafia or this or that, or they might say the CIA. But i usually prompt them and say, “what about the CIA/NSA ?” — and then they think a minute and say “Yeah, they probly are no.1 or at least pretty near no.1”So then I go: Well, so we agree the CIA is one of if not the most powerful organization in the whole wide world, yes? And they go “yes”
And then i say, well did you ever study it in grades school? High school? College? History class? Anywhere in any class at any time?
“No, never ever heard it even mentioned”
“So you are saying you got an american education and never ever at any time even touched on THE most powerful organization in the whole wide world?
“Right”
So….um….do you ever THINK about THAT?
“um…no.”
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vAnd we all know that if somebody on one of the major networks ever raised that question, his job would disappear quickly, probably amid a scandal.
I mean…it is impossible to believe that they don’t use what they know to blackmail politicians. J. Edgar Hoover used to do that, right? I started reading a biography of that guy about 30 years ago, and I made it only up to about the 1920s, and just couldn’t take it any more. The guy was a complete dirtbag. And to think that the current heads of the FBI, CIA, and NSA aren’t abusing their power is, frankly, impossible to believe. Everything we know of history and human nature compels us to believe that those dirtbags are running their power agendas in dirtbag ways.
ZooeyModeratorYeah, that rings true to me, too.
ZooeyModeratorIs Jeff Fisher’s extension with the Rams still on the table?
Alden Gonzalez
Now, I would like to see the Rams set up more screen passes for Gurley, who has caught only four of those. And it would be nice to see him have more runs where he is bouncing it to the outside as opposed to fighting between the tackles.
This is what I’ve been saying.
is this a case of the oc needing to do a better job of getting his best player in more favorable situations?
That is the question I am asking, too.
ZooeyModeratorIs Jeff Fisher’s extension with the Rams still on the table?
Alden Gonzalez
Now, I would like to see the Rams set up more screen passes for Gurley, who has caught only four of those. And it would be nice to see him have more runs where he is bouncing it to the outside as opposed to fighting between the tackles.
This is what I’ve been saying.
ZooeyModeratorI don’t care if he has a 3rd grade reading level if he hires the right collection of geniuses to attack and solve the Nation’s problems. Another 4 years of watching this Country deteriorate into a politically correct safe haven for litigious self-appointed ‘Champions of the Cause’ who are offended by virtually everything? Yeah, no thank you very much.
I want him to win for no other reason than to keep ‘her’ from appointing those kinds of judges to the Supreme Court.
I think I may not understand the “anti-PC” crowd. I cannot put that sentiment into a favorable light in my head. Seriously, all I hear when people complain about “PC” is something like, “Yeah, it takes too much energy and effort to be considerate of people who don’t think the way I do, so they should just toughen up and get over it. Since their concerns are not my concerns, they aren’t worthy of my respect.” That’s what I hear.
November 1, 2016 at 1:08 pm in reply to: Nothin would be fina than beatin Carolina … can they do it? #56503ZooeyModerator—————–
“The first four years dont count.”
Ya know. There are places in this world,
where if ya said that, you’d be defenestrated. Like, totally.
Probably decorticated, first.Are you serious, btw? The first four years dont count?
I count’em myself. If Fisher’s team loses for the fifth straight year,
I’m marching on the castle.Course I’ve never really felt any warmth for Fisher. I just dont cotton to him as a person.
Bring back DV.w
vI can’t say I’m a fan of Fisher, but my patience has not yet run out. I guess I tend to look at things with two different hats from time-to-time. There is my Fan Hat, and my Management Hat. And I mostly have thought about Fisher with my Management Hat on i.e. what would I do if I was Stan, and the answer so far has been exactly what has happened i.e. nothing.
I told anyone who would listen the past couple of years that there was no way Fisher would be fired before the move to L.A., and that he would see the end of his 5-year deal. That was MH thinking. Fisher’s term started with a roster arguably worse than an expansion team roster, and he was hired in part because of his experience moving with the Titans. There just was no way he was going to be terminated. I said that THIS YEAR would be the first year he would feel his seat warm up if the team underperformed. So far, I am just a perfect 10 in calling all that.
My Fan Hat thinking is that Fisher was fairly impressive with the Titans. That was a good, hard-nosed football team that, imo, actually over-achieved. At least in those years where they intersected the GSOT. So I was reasonably open to his devilship when he was hired, and thought he might bring the same kind of toughness to the Rams. Well, he sort of has. Though I now, with my FH, am wondering if he is falling short of hopes. I went into LAST season with Wild Card hopes. Of course, Foles melted down, and etc. But even so, the team ought to have done better, imo. But brand new, young OL, melted down QB, late arriving rookie RB…ambiguous.
Well, as this season has taken a turn for the worse, it kind of tilts last season into a darker setting. According to my Fan Hat. Sand is depreciably slipping through the hourglass now. And I am sick to death of 7-9. Sick of it.
Back to the present and my MH. The QB who may well put the team over the top is not yet out of his berth. I wouldn’t screw with that. I would re-sign Fisher through the remainder of the Memorial Coliseum tenure. What I really don’t want to do is let the guy, and his staff go, and bring in another coach and system just as my golden boy is about ready to play, and make him learn a new system. Fuck that. No. That is just bad, bad timing for a system change when they just spent all that capital on the guy who is supposed to put them into the tournament. Fisher gets two more years from me in my MH, and I predict that is what Stan will do.
So as a fan, I am kind of getting sick of Fisher. As a matter of practical strategy for team development, I give him two more years (unless the wheels fall off and he loses the team, and they go 3 – 13, or something unforeseen like that).
November 1, 2016 at 10:16 am in reply to: Nothin would be fina than beatin Carolina … can they do it? #56483ZooeyModeratorThe refs decide to reverse their neglect of Cam Newton against the “dirty” Rams, and throw a flag every time Newton goes to the ground.
Carolina 23
Rams 16—————
If Fisher has a fifth straight losing season, Zooey,
are you gonna be in favor of firing him or keeping him?Just curious.
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vI don’t know. Circumstances change one’s perspective. But at the moment, I don’t really look at it as 5 straight years of losing because I don’t think the first 4 years count. Nobody could have won in any of those seasons given the personnel and the injuries.
So this is Year One of Losing in my book. I think they should make the playoffs this season. If they don’t, my judgement of Fisher will be affected by how far they fell short of that.
October 31, 2016 at 6:49 pm in reply to: Nothin would be fina than beatin Carolina … can they do it? #56459ZooeyModeratorThe refs decide to reverse their neglect of Cam Newton against the “dirty” Rams, and throw a flag every time Newton goes to the ground.
Carolina 23
Rams 16ZooeyModeratorSure, I know that.
But you and I are not Friends on Facepalm, so I haven’t seen your measured response.
I am not talking about voting for Hillary.
I am talking about people who I see run the Hillary pennant up their flagpoles, and get genuinely excited by her, who used to see her shortcomings.
You are excluded from my disdain.
{but only because I like Linda so much}
ZooeyModeratorBernie is an embarrassment. These email revelations are repeated kicks to his nuts and not a peep from him. I suppose getting Hildabeast to assume all of his campaign debt is all that really matters to him. The dope actually said he didn’t care about her emails during a debate. Generals get years in prison while peasants like yours truly would be given life in prison for just ONE email offense of hers.
Where have you been?
What Bernie said is that he already knew all of this, so these revelations are old. It was an ongoing complaint from Bernie and his supporters throughout the primaries. He reacted to all of this months ago.
ZooeyModeratorYes, and Snisher knew all that — which tells us one of two things, perhaps:
1) Either they are idiots,
or
2) Goff’s skill set is so awesome, they traded up and took him (over Wentz, Dak, etc)
despite his steep learning curve.w
vI agree with this, and think it is #2, AND that they underestimated how long it would take to get him up to speed, AND that having recognized that, they decided that the right thing to do was to train him up until he actually is ready rather than force him in prematurely.
The other comment I have to make on this is that I knew the above (well, not the # of concepts, or the list of names) before the draft. And I’m not Joe Football. I guess I’m more than a casual fan, but I am not in the class of people who are students of the game, who have experience, who explain things to others rather than read other people’s explanations. And I knew all that based on pretty skimpy reading around. So why don’t people whose f***ing job it is to talk about football know that? That is what I don’t understand. I mean, if somebody is going to pay me $70,000 a year to talk about football 3-15 hours a week, I’m going to know as much about it as the Zooeys of the world. I really don’t understand how so many people know so little, and say such really tremendously stupid things about Goff vis-a-vis Wentz and Dak and whoever.
ZooeyModeratorJesus Christ.
You know, I actually started framing the idea of a book, and began taking notes on it in the Spring before realizing late in the summer I was never going to write it. The basic idea was to explore how Greed (1 of the 7 Deadly Sins) is killing us. I was thinking of a chapter on greed’s impact on various aspects of life: education, health care, prisons, biosphere poisoning, democracy, race, media and so on.
We are dead.
Because we are so greedy, we cannot restrain ourselves even when what we are doing to enrich ourselves is self-destructive.
And where is the media? Covering Israel’s movement into Syria? No. US military buildup around Russia and China? No. Standing Rock? No.
Donald Trump’s hands, and Anthony’s Weiner.
ZooeyModeratorSee that Donna Brazile fed Clinton a debate question prior to a March debate with Bernie?
Later she becomes DNC chair to replace Wasserman Schultz. What a shock. So the DNC chair is nakedly favoring Clinton, so she gets replaced…with a nakedly pro-Clinton person. That’s how that problem was corrected.
I dunno. On Facepalm right now, I see lots of former Bernie supporters brainwashing themselves into Clinton supporters, and it makes me sad. Let’s not forget who and what she is, people.
October 31, 2016 at 1:24 pm in reply to: WV: "foulest cesspool of human misery this side of hell #56426ZooeyModerator
October 30, 2016 at 12:02 pm in reply to: Trump boots black man from rally calls him ‘thug’ Turns out he's a supporter #56360ZooeyModeratorIf Trump wins — and Comey’s unprecedented and indefensible action may just make that happen — it will be a victory for white supremacist America. It will embolden white supremacists, xenophobes, misogynists and the entire alt-right, whose ideology is basically just a more polished version of the KKK’s.
They are already emboldened, and will remain emboldened even after Trump loses. The narrative that Hillary has stolen the election is already in cement. These people are not going away quietly on November 9. They are going to continue to stoke up the furnace of their political smear machine, and they will never stop.
ZooeyModeratorGood to know you’re on the inside.
Oh, don’t worry. I just make shit up.
ZooeyModeratorIs there a word for people who get pleasure out of misspelling wordz ?
Bastards.
Um, Zooey, that would be bastardz.
Wow. I edited that thing 23 seconds after I posted it, and you captured the first post.
ZooeyModeratorIs there a word for people who get pleasure out of misspelling wordz ?
Bastardz.
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I have never believed the polls. Donald J. Trump is your next president.————-
I dont think so. Not unless the FBI arrests her.
Now, when Trump loses are you gonna say you were wrong,
or are you gonna say “the election was stolen” ?w
vTrump’s own internal polling says he’s going to lose.
But he considers the whole thing a win because by his reckoning he got $1-2 billion worth of free publicity. And he will continue to get free publicity afterwards as long as he can continue to complain about the outcome.
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