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ZooeyModeratorif they tank the rest of the way and fans revolt?
They won’t care.
They will assume they can rally in 2017 and that winning puts an end to the “revolt.”
Exactly. One playoff berth in the next two years, and all the pissing and moaning among fans evaporates and disappears.
ZooeyModeratorI watched all of it. I enjoyed it a lot.
I thought he was very good on explaining the Trumpets. I previously agreed with him on Trump’s appeal here, but was very interested in his knowledge of how the same thing is happening throughout Europe, and how it is manifesting in right wing populism when there is no left wing alternative. That was interesting…and worrying. I thought he was also good on the entire post WWI sweep of economics. I think he might have added that Europe and America were on different courses, though up until 1980. Well, that’s what I think, anyway. I think post WWII Europe, in particular, clearly headed in a more socially equitable direction than America did. And I think the Reagan/Thatcher alliance was the beginning of Europe being “neo-liberalised” American-style. The destruction of unions was crucial to our current circumstances.
I was curious about his comment that after WWII, the west pushed for Full Employment because, of course, that was happening in the Eastern bloc, and so to cut off any interest in a shift to the left at that turning point in history, capital kind of took care of the working and middle classes so they wouldn’t “get any ideas.”
I am also interested in this idea of “mincome.” I have heard that it has been implemented somewhere in Europe – I don’t remember where. Such a concept is anathema to Americans, of course, who have been trained to think their virtue is measured by how much of their life they spend working. I can’t see the idea gaining traction here, but I would love to know more about that.
And…yeah…on the short video WV posted. Isn’t that just the perfect stat to unveil to all those people who think raising the minimum wage will cost business too much?
December 4, 2016 at 11:40 am in reply to: Clinton’s “Corrupt Establishment” Is Now Advising Donald Trump #60190
ZooeyModeratorLets see how he governs.
This IS Trump governing, bnw.
December 4, 2016 at 11:38 am in reply to: Clinton’s “Corrupt Establishment” Is Now Advising Donald Trump #60187
ZooeyModeratorSurprise, surprise.
Who could have seen THAT coming?
Oh…I know. Everybody.
This guy has set a new record for breaking campaign promises. Before he has even taken the oath of office.
Here is one more thing to expect from a Trump presidency: a new record for vacation days taken by a president, though Bush’s record will be tough to beat. (And nary a peep about his vacation time by the right wing hacks that complain about Obama golfing all the time).
Obama, btw, took less than half the vacation days that Bush did.
ZooeyModeratorI used to post those all the time, and then I more or less lost track of him on the net. Thanks for those. He just…has a way, doesn’t he?
ZooeyModeratorSanders and Clinton are farther apart in their core beliefs than Clinton and Trump are.
LOL.
That is true.
Either one will/would continue neo-liberal, trickle down economics. Either one would/will cut taxes for the 1% and push more wealth upward away from the bottom 99%.
They both would appoint corporate friendly justices. They both will blow up other countries for the duration of their presidency. The only differences are the Hillary would appoint socially tolerant justices, and there might be some differences in which (additional) countries get blown up. Those are important differences, but you’re right. Sanders differed on those important core issues of economic equality, and sane foreign policy.
Sigh.
He woulda beat Trump.
ZooeyModeratorThat’s exactly what I expected to happen.
I will guess that it also contains a buy out clause for Kroenke.
December 2, 2016 at 9:05 pm in reply to: Scouting QB Jared Goff After 2 Games; LA Rams vs NE Patriots #60061
ZooeyModeratorThe Patriots $%#*&$* suck.
And I hate them.
I hate them, and I hate Bellisatan, and I hate Mr. Victoria Secret Guy.
That is all that matters here, and my hatred will be the difference in the game.
Rams 59 Patriots 3.
ZooeyModeratorOK, fine. But what type of science ignores historic data going back 65 million years that contradicts the theory of man made global warming? Its like a physician ignoring a patients health history when diagnosing and treating.
What kind of scientific argument has to go back 65 million years to find a cooling pattern when humans have been emitting CO2 only for the past couple of hundred years, and that’s the cause scientists are concerned about?
The cooling has been consistent for 65 million years. In case you don’t know that does predate mankind by about 64 million years.
Right. Which is why the first 64.9998 million years of your data does not prove what you think it proves. That’s what I’m saying.
The deal is that the global temperatures have been rising strikingly very recently, corresponding with co2 emissions. That is the whole point. The fact that the earth was cooling consistently prior to the large increase of co2 due to industrialization is a strong part of the evidence that man-made global warming is a thing. The earth WAS cooling for 64.9998 million years. It isn’t cooling now. It is getting warmer. Dramatically. Quickly. So don’t tell me that because it was cooling over a period of 65 million years, that means it is still cooling now. It isn’t.
ZooeyModeratorOK, fine. But what type of science ignores historic data going back 65 million years that contradicts the theory of man made global warming? Its like a physician ignoring a patients health history when diagnosing and treating.
What kind of scientific argument has to go back 65 million years to find a cooling pattern when humans have been emitting CO2 only for the past couple of hundred years, and that’s the cause scientists are concerned about?
December 2, 2016 at 5:26 pm in reply to: How many promises will he break before inauguration? #60029
ZooeyModeratorWhere they divert funds from the NSF to the Ark Encounter theme park.
Don’t be so hasty to judge. If they continue to frack up the planet, we are gonna need that ark.
ZooeyModeratorIDK…to me Oakland is Raider land..if only they could get a stadium deal done because really they have a much worse situation than the Chargers stadium wise.
Cards back to STL…agree
LA remains Rams…agree
Chargers stay in SD…agreeAZ and Vegas get expansion.
Oh believe me, wv knows that, sanbagger.
As a long time 49’ers fan, wv is well aware of Oakland’s love of the Raiders.
And with his beloved team 1-10 and now 45 miles away in Santa Clara and the Raiders a Super Bowl contender, he senses the Frisco area switching their allegiance to the Silver and Black (note that I said ‘Frisco’. wv, like most San Franciscans, hates that. I get my digs in where I can).
That’s why he wants the Raiders to move. He knows putting an expansion team in Oakland will take a long time to approve. It will take longer still to field a winner. In the meantime local support will undoubtedly swing back to the 9’ers. Unlike the Raiders, an expansion team won’t be a threat to the 9’ers’ sovereignty in the bay area.
So, believe me, he cares little about fair play or justice for other cities that lost their team. He cares only about one thing, the 9’ers maintaining their hold over the greater San Francisco/Oakland/San Jose/Santa Clara metroplex.
December 2, 2016 at 10:10 am in reply to: How many promises will he break before inauguration? #59990
ZooeyModeratorI don’t understand your statement about SCOTUS and the EPA since Trump has promised significant change for the better with his SC appointees and a severe roll back of anti coal and other onerous EPA regs. Both will happen. GUARANTEED.
He said things about them.
They weren’t central. They were not emphasized like the wall, hillary, and the ACA.
ZooeyModeratorMy fear is the Rams will become the Clippers to the Chargers’ Lakers.
$tanK deserves it.
Okay. But we don’t.
December 2, 2016 at 12:02 am in reply to: How many promises will he break before inauguration? #59967
ZooeyModeratorBernie: Carrier just showed corps how to beat Trump
Nice job, Nittany.
Did you find that article all by yourself?
Or did you just get it from the original post in this thread?
December 1, 2016 at 11:59 pm in reply to: How many promises will he break before inauguration? #59966
ZooeyModerator————-
NExt election might be really interesting. If an ‘actual’ progressive runs against the Billionaire with a four year record — should be interesting.One wonders, btw, who the MSM would support in a race between an incumbent Billionaire-Republican and a Bernie-type-Progressive ?
Trump wont be able to run as an ‘outsider’ next time.
w
vI am also curious to see if Trump will get a challenge in the primary, like Carter did. That will depend on his popularity in three years, I suppose.
ZooeyModeratorYou moved the LA thread. I see.
December 1, 2016 at 8:16 pm in reply to: Scouting QB Jared Goff After 2 Games; LA Rams vs NE Patriots #59956
ZooeyModeratorI am seeing a completely different guy from preseason. Well, that’s not exactly right. We saw the flashes in preseason, but he just looked totally green.
This guy is good. I mean…right now…he IS better than Keenum. No question. You have to be excited by having Goff at QB going forward, for sure. He is going to be better than Bradford. That over the shoulder shot to Austin was a throw Bradford could not make the first couple of seasons. Bradford had trouble with fades and over the shoulder stuff. He was always good on a line, but not as good with touch. I didn’t watch the Saints game, and only part of the Dolphins game, but Goff seems more nimble to me, and has better accuracy, and zip. I am all aboard the Goff train now.
December 1, 2016 at 7:32 pm in reply to: How many promises will he break before inauguration? #59955
ZooeyModeratorHe’s not building the wall let alone have Mexico pay for it, he’s not repealing Obamacare, he’s not going to convict Hillary…aren’t those three promises the reason why about 75% of his supporters voted for him?
http://www.newsweek.com/keeping-score-donald-trump-campaign-promises-526391
Well, he isn’t keeping his promises because he failed to keep the promise that all the others depend upon: draining the swamp. You don’t bring in Insiders to revolutionize the status quo.
Since he brought in insiders, there is no way he is going to do much of anything outside the box except some stuff for showbiz. The areas where he is capable of changing things (i.e.causing significant damage) are areas where he didn’t make any real promises in the first place: SCOUTUS, EPA, etc. But he isn’t going to do the big three.
ZooeyModeratorI’m not so sure.
I think one might be able to flap him.
November 30, 2016 at 9:11 pm in reply to: informal poll: should the Patz even bother to show up? #59901
ZooeyModeratorThe Rams win.
That’s just what they do. They lose to 5 mediocre teams, then rise up and beat the best teams.
That is kinda their MO…but the Pats MO is to not allow the lesser teams to rise up against them.
I think Goff has a decent game against a suspect Pats D but it won’t be enough.
Pats – 27
Rams – 19Okay, well, if you hate the Rams so much, why don’t you just move to Seattle?
ZooeyModeratorAnyway this may just all get down to individual poster votes.
The Recordites and the Contextistas can probably argue until they are blue in the face, and then disagree on what shade of blue it is.
But still.
Board wars are healthy things.

Typical.
You leave out the Pragmatics who argue that it doesn’t make any difference what the Recordites and the Contextistas think. The only thing that matters is what Kroenke thinks. And the way the Dollars and Sense goes, he is keeping him.
November 30, 2016 at 7:28 pm in reply to: informal poll: should the Patz even bother to show up? #59891
ZooeyModeratorThe Rams win.
That’s just what they do. They lose to 5 mediocre teams, then rise up and beat the best teams.
ZooeyModeratorOMG.
I am ready for a change, too.
I am so sick of losing I can’t express it.
I grew up with the Rams as one of the most respected franchises in the entire league, a team that was truly feared, year after year.
And for the past 25 years, they have mostly sucked with the unbelievable exception of the 3-year GSOT window. An entire generation of kids do not remember a time when the Rams were anything but a doormat.
That does not sit well with me, and I want a change.
But the reality is Jeff Fisher is here for at least two more seasons, and let’s just get on with it and hope for the best. (he says, knowing there will be 200 more “Fuck Fisher” threads).
ZooeyModeratorOh, brother.
I will bet a zillion dollars that the overall Won/Loss record of the LA Rams is better than the overall Won/Loss record of the St. Louis Rams. I absolutely guarantee it.
The zip code is not relevant.
ZooeyModeratorI didn’t think I would make it two minutes into that, but I watched the whole thing.
I am not a fan of Cenk Uygur to begin with because he seems like more of a “ranter” than an “analyzer.” But that was good. I’ve never heard Cenk so concise before. And you are right: he was spot on about Obama. I think I agree with everything he said. I hadn’t thought of that re: Schumer before, but I think he is right there, too. I think he pretty much nailed it.
And I didn’t think I would ever be able to tolerate another Larry King interview, either, but he asked pretty good questions, and got out of the way.
ZooeyModerator———–
Have you tried zooey’s cussing program?
I think he’s coming out with a video.
w
vA lot of good that will do. That clueless old coot is releasing it in Betamax.
The only exercise I get is when I walk the dogs or go birding…neither of which would qualify as aerobic exercise. I just can’t stand doing those repetitive movements on an elliptical or other exercise machines. I like getting out in the woods and hiking but I’m not motivated enough to do it regularly enough to make a difference.
Betamax is primed for a big comeback. And guess who will be laughing then.
The only exercised I like is playing something. Raquetball is fantastic, but I don’t have a club membership, and nobody to play with. But I can’t stand Exercising. My brain has to be doing something, or I get bored. Hiking is good, but…yeah. Ya gotta carve out a day for that. I went hiking in Yosemite over the weekend, and it was a joy…but I could only wish I was in better shape.
ZooeyModeratorI swear for exercise.
I read the headlines, and that gets my heart racing.
Sometimes I yell at kids.
ZooeyModeratorOn a personality level, I think Obama is one of the best. he is clearly very smart, and the wittiest president we’ve ever had. And no personal scandals in 8 years, something of a rarity there. He and Michelle have been absolutely classy.
His policies suck.
ZooeyModeratorI missed the game. I was on the road back from my break.
Goff can throw.
Don’t know where the defense was. Took the week off, I guess.
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