zn wrote:

to placate left-wing totalitarians

And I am something that starts with a P. Was it a Pragmaticite? I’m not sure that’s right.

Anyway, one thing I’m sure of, Fisher will get an extension for two years because that is what makes sense from ownership’s point of view.

Now, when exactly that deal gets done, and when it is announced, I don’t know, but…

What?

Oh, right.

Are you wearing a Dickerson jersey? Cuz I saw that guy.

I watched all of it. I enjoyed it a lot.

I thought he was very good on explaining the Trumpets. I previously agreed with him on Trump’s appeal here, but was very interested in his knowledge of how the same thing is happening throughout Europe, and how it is manifesting in right wing populism when there is no left wing alternative. That was interesting…and worrying. I thought he was also good on the entire post WWI sweep of economics. I think he might have added that Europe and America were on different courses, though up until 1980. Well, that’s what I think, anyway. I think post WWII Europe, in particular, clearly headed in a more socially equitable direction than America did. And I think the Reagan/Thatcher alliance was the beginning of Europe being “neo-liberalised” American-style. The destruction of unions was crucial to our current circumstances.

I was curious about his comment that after WWII, the west pushed for Full Employment because, of course, that was happening in the Eastern bloc, and so to cut off any interest in a shift to the left at that turning point in history, capital kind of took care of the working and middle classes so they wouldn’t “get any ideas.”

I am also interested in this idea of “mincome.” I have heard that it has been implemented somewhere in Europe – I don’t remember where. Such a concept is anathema to Americans, of course, who have been trained to think their virtue is measured by how much of their life they spend working. I can’t see the idea gaining traction here, but I would love to know more about that.

And…yeah…on the short video WV posted. Isn’t that just the perfect stat to unveil to all those people who think raising the minimum wage will cost business too much?

Surprise, surprise.

Who could have seen THAT coming?

Oh…I know. Everybody.

This guy has set a new record for breaking campaign promises. Before he has even taken the oath of office.

Here is one more thing to expect from a Trump presidency: a new record for vacation days taken by a president, though Bush’s record will be tough to beat. (And nary a peep about his vacation time by the right wing hacks that complain about Obama golfing all the time).

Obama, btw, took less than half the vacation days that Bush did.

nittany ram wrote:

Sanders and Clinton are farther apart in their core beliefs than Clinton and Trump are.

LOL.

That is true.

Either one will/would continue neo-liberal, trickle down economics. Either one would/will cut taxes for the 1% and push more wealth upward away from the bottom 99%.

They both would appoint corporate friendly justices. They both will blow up other countries for the duration of their presidency. The only differences are the Hillary would appoint socially tolerant justices, and there might be some differences in which (additional) countries get blown up. Those are important differences, but you’re right. Sanders differed on those important core issues of economic equality, and sane foreign policy.

Sigh.

He woulda beat Trump.

The Patriots $%#*&$* suck.

And I hate them.

I hate them, and I hate Bellisatan, and I hate Mr. Victoria Secret Guy.

That is all that matters here, and my hatred will be the difference in the game.

Rams 59 Patriots 3.

bnw wrote:

OK, fine. But what type of science ignores historic data going back 65 million years that contradicts the theory of man made global warming? Its like a physician ignoring a patients health history when diagnosing and treating.

What kind of scientific argument has to go back 65 million years to find a cooling pattern when humans have been emitting CO2 only for the past couple of hundred years, and that’s the cause scientists are concerned about?

sanbagger wrote:

IDK…to me Oakland is Raider land..if only they could get a stadium deal done because really they have a much worse situation than the Chargers stadium wise.

Cards back to STL…agree
LA remains Rams…agree
Chargers stay in SD…agree

AZ and Vegas get expansion.

Oh believe me, wv knows that, sanbagger.

As a long time 49’ers fan, wv is well aware of Oakland’s love of the Raiders.

And with his beloved team 1-10 and now 45 miles away in Santa Clara and the Raiders a Super Bowl contender, he senses the Frisco area switching their allegiance to the Silver and Black (note that I said ‘Frisco’. wv, like most San Franciscans, hates that. I get my digs in where I can).

That’s why he wants the Raiders to move. He knows putting an expansion team in Oakland will take a long time to approve. It will take longer still to field a winner. In the meantime local support will undoubtedly swing back to the 9’ers. Unlike the Raiders, an expansion team won’t be a threat to the 9’ers’ sovereignty in the bay area.

So, believe me, he cares little about fair play or justice for other cities that lost their team. He cares only about one thing, the 9’ers maintaining their hold over the greater San Francisco/Oakland/San Jose/Santa Clara metroplex.

bnw wrote:

nittany ram wrote:

My fear is the Rams will become the Clippers to the Chargers’ Lakers.

$tanK deserves it.

Okay. But we don’t.

I am seeing a completely different guy from preseason. Well, that’s not exactly right. We saw the flashes in preseason, but he just looked totally green.

This guy is good. I mean…right now…he IS better than Keenum. No question. You have to be excited by having Goff at QB going forward, for sure. He is going to be better than Bradford. That over the shoulder shot to Austin was a throw Bradford could not make the first couple of seasons. Bradford had trouble with fades and over the shoulder stuff. He was always good on a line, but not as good with touch. I didn’t watch the Saints game, and only part of the Dolphins game, but Goff seems more nimble to me, and has better accuracy, and zip. I am all aboard the Goff train now.

I’m not so sure.

I think one might be able to flap him.

zn wrote:

Anyway this may just all get down to individual poster votes.

The Recordites and the Contextistas can probably argue until they are blue in the face, and then disagree on what shade of blue it is.

But still.

Board wars are healthy things.

Typical.

You leave out the Pragmatics who argue that it doesn’t make any difference what the Recordites and the Contextistas think. The only thing that matters is what Kroenke thinks. And the way the Dollars and Sense goes, he is keeping him.

OMG.

I am ready for a change, too.

I am so sick of losing I can’t express it.

I grew up with the Rams as one of the most respected franchises in the entire league, a team that was truly feared, year after year.

And for the past 25 years, they have mostly sucked with the unbelievable exception of the 3-year GSOT window. An entire generation of kids do not remember a time when the Rams were anything but a doormat.

That does not sit well with me, and I want a change.

But the reality is Jeff Fisher is here for at least two more seasons, and let’s just get on with it and hope for the best. (he says, knowing there will be 200 more “Fuck Fisher” threads).