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December 14, 2016 at 11:10 pm in reply to: how many of these movies have you seen? an arbitrary list #61108
ZooeyModeratorI have seen 7 Samurai, and Ran, and Rashomon.
I liked them all.
ZooeyModeratorThis is from my brother, who is not a football fan. He’s ranting here about his favorite basketball team. In the process he says something interesting.
They have lost to virtually every basement dweller in the league so far, yet they manage to beat the upper echelon teams. You know what they say….. A consistent winning team has good players. A consistent losing team has bad players. An inconsistent team has bad management.
So….Stan should spend a frillion dollars on technology to bring Dick Vermeil back from the dead?
December 14, 2016 at 9:41 pm in reply to: how many of these movies have you seen? an arbitrary list #61103ZooeyModeratorSeen 19 of them only.
My favorites:
Chinatown
Fargo
Cool Hand Luke
Showgirls
The HustlerZooeyModeratorI heard from one source that Hekker’s mother spent a wild weekend with Massey.
ZooeyModeratorDuring his entire tenure the majority of his offensive acquisitions whether via FA or the draft just didn’t perform.
See I don’t see it that way. They had several years worth of combined OL injuries and qb injuries and melt downs which meant being stuck with #2 caliber qbs. I can’t think of any team that has been effective under those conditions.
Okay, but I agree that this year’s performance crossed the pale, don’t you? There were not a lot of injuries this year, and the O is ranked dead last, and they are ALL Fisher acquisitions. Except Saffold, I think, who was already here. And maybe Kendricks.
ZooeyModeratorI cant imagine Goff being able to do much against Seattle,
in Seattle.I think it will be another nationally televised beat-down.
Seahawks 34
Rams 13w
v13?
Pretty optimistic, there, I would say.
ZooeyModeratorEnh. I don’t buy most of this stuff. I see a lot of hyperbole about Fisher. He seems to set some people off.
To me he’s an ordinary story—another good coach whose team didn’t turn the corner and he took the hit.
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That is the way he goes down in my scrapbook.
ZooeyModeratorAndy Reid? Way to dream big there, Pa.
I wish Jeff Fisher had been more like Chuck Knoll. You know, with his 4 Super Bowl victories in 6 years…
That is the kind of spelling I expect from spellingly deficient science types who spell stuff like H2OS04.
By the way, the Trojans are going to kick your sorry ass all the way back to Happy Valley. Cappy.
ZooeyModeratorLast week, I said the Rams needed better numbers on sacks and turnovers.
I don’t think I was specific enough.
I mean the Rams need to take away the ball from Seattle, and sack Wilson.
ZooeyModerator
Hee come the Contextistas to enter the fight.
Special shout out to Ag…think I have it
Great still shot.
Help! was always one of my favorite movies.
ZooeyModeratorWhat? No Bill Cowher? Jimmy Johnson?
I just saw an article over at CBS saying Pete Carroll. Seriously. A guy with 2-3 years left on his contract with Seattle.
Good lord.
ZooeyModeratorNothing like a good Old Testament allusion.
Well you know. For everything there is a season.
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What the Rams need is a coach who can go to the Valley of Dry Bones.
ZooeyModeratorSomebody somewhere mentioned that Fisher might be like Moses…leading the team out of the wilderness, right to the edge of the Promised Land, only to die, and have someone else lead them in.
I did the Fisher equals Moses thing.
Nice one.
Nothing like a good Old Testament allusion.
ZooeyModeratorWell. The people with the torches and pitchforks got what they wanted.
I’m not sure it’s the best thing.
I’ve been wondering like everybody else what the story is.
And I argued just recently that the OL has had plenty of time to learn its assignments, and so on, that the move should be behind them.
But I do wonder if we are just seeing a lack of focus.
Moving to LA from St. Louis has to be a mental distraction, and up until now, I was just thinking in terms of finding a place to live, and all that stuff. And that stuff is over.
But it’s a totally different culture. And a zillion distractions and bright shiny things around. New roads to learn. New restaurants and clubs. The ocean.
I dunno. Maybe it just mentally took them out of their mindset enough.
In any event, the next coach will inherit a team with better talent than the one Fisher got. Somebody somewhere mentioned that Fisher might be like Moses…leading the team out of the wilderness, right to the edge of the Promised Land, only to die, and have someone else lead them in. Maybe. Maybe the new coach will get lost, and end up miles away.
I don’t care about Fisher per se. But I really do wonder. I just don’t know that this was really his fault, or anybody’s fault, really.
I do know that it was public relations that got him sacked.
December 13, 2016 at 10:06 am in reply to: PFF grades, Falcons game (2nd week in a row GR grades well) #60921ZooeyModeratorSo the top 5 offensive players for the Rams were the OL.
Go figure.
ZooeyModeratorA third thing is that they have to stop dribbling footballs off their facemasks. You aren’t supposed to dribble the ball at all in football. That’s hockey.
So they need to work on fundamentals.
December 12, 2016 at 10:21 pm in reply to: Rams press conference at 3pm LA time: Now With Video Link #60867ZooeyModeratorI dont think it had anything to do with Goff. I think it was just the totality of the circumstances. The general, total, collapse.
A critical mass of ineptitude, bonehead plays, and outside pressure.
Now watch fassel win three in a row. Then what?
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vIt was the totality of circumstances. I agree.
What had not occurred to me – and I’m surprised nobody pointed this out to me since I was pretty much on my own in saying Fisher probably wouldn’t be fired – is that if the Chargers opt to move to LA, Kroenke starts selling PSLs in January. And he wants that PSL money to finance construction of the stadium rather than having to borrow or liquidate.
And if Spanos says, yes, then two teams start selling PSLs at the same time, one of which performed very badly, right in front of Los Angeles, with a highly unpopular coach and a streak of crappiness that may be harder to sell.
This unraveling of the team comes at a bad time for Kroenke.
So…I think that’s what it comes down to.
As I said elsewhere, I bet if the Rams beat Atlanta, Fisher wouldn’t have been fired – at least right now – but bouncing a kickoff off of the facemask and dropping behind by 7 ten seconds into the game, and giving up more touchdowns to Atlanta in LA than the Rams have scored in LA themselves the entire season?
No bueno.
ZooeyModeratorI wonder what would have happened if the Rams had played a decent game on Sunday instead of pulling a Keystone Kops routine.
Going down 42 – 0 at home in front of a crowd already chanting for Fisher’s head certainly finished him off. I mean…that was a debacle.
You know, Fisher was hired in part due to his experience in moving a team.
That didn’t pay off so well, did it?
ZooeyModeratorI’d say get Bill Belichik.
The Rams destroyed one of the satanic coaches. Get the other one in here, and ruin his career, too.
December 12, 2016 at 2:21 pm in reply to: Gurley: "It looked like a middle-school offense out there," #60772ZooeyModeratorMy main interest in the article was that Gurley implied there are players that aren’t trying. That is what concerns me.
He might know, and he might not.
Was Britt “trying” to catch that ball?
You know, we are going to know real soon. Because if mayhem sets in, it will be obvious. There will be finger-pointing, and mouthing off, and it won’t be subtle. There won’t be people sitting around arguing about what it means.
A melted down team is a melted down team.
I was hoping that the Rams would respond angrily and come out and give the Falcons the game of their season.
Now, I just hope the Rams don’t end up looking like a total mockery the rest of the way.
Because that may force Kroenke to do something that may not be in the Rams best interest.
ZooeyModeratorA night well spent.
Today is the 15th anniversary of my daughter’s death. A lot of people on this board were posting together when that happened. 15 years ago. Wow.
I always take the day off work, and my family and I go and get our Christmas tree today.
It’s good to do things to honor the memory.
Just keep going, buddy.
December 12, 2016 at 10:09 am in reply to: Gurley: "It looked like a middle-school offense out there," #60750ZooeyModeratorHe deliberately went out of his way to state that he WASN’T talking about the scheme. I know that given their view of things, some posters will want him to have said that. But he directly made it clear he WASN;T saying that.
Why do I care? Because I think better of him than that. Heck this is not the worst recent Rams season we have seen, and can you imagine Steven Jackson publicly blaming the coaches for a loss in 2011 etc? He had more class and sense than that. I like to think the same of Gurley.
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I tend to agree with you.
But it was an unfortunate thing to say. Cuz I don’t think it will turn the temperature down on the hot seat for his Coach.
December 12, 2016 at 10:04 am in reply to: Gurley: "It looked like a middle-school offense out there," #60748ZooeyModeratorFirst of all, Gurley didn’t say, “High school offense.”
He said, “Middle school offense.”
Believe me, as a guy whose high school just put a 57 -16 beatdown on Bakersfield Saturday night in the state semi-final game, and is on its way to the state championship for the second consecutive year (defending champs), I know what a high school offense looks like.
And the Rams are NOT at that level.
ZooeyModeratorI agree that the Rams’ next 2 or 3 seasons are primarily on Goff’s shoulders.
I am also concerned about Quinn. I am delighted that draft is deep there, but not delighted that the Rams don’t have a 1st round pick.
ZooeyModeratori just want to see goff play well. if he can lead the rams to at least three offensive touchdowns, i’ll be happy.
Yeah, I think that’s what everyone is watching for the rest of the way.
And if he does, all the pessimists will be right back at the start of next season regardless of who the coach is. zn is right about the future of the Rams being determined more by Jared Goff than by whoever is Head Coach.
ZooeyModeratorThe only way the Rams win this game is by their defense suddenly remembering how to get turnovers and sacks, and I don’t know why they would start doing that in game 13.
December 9, 2016 at 2:53 pm in reply to: Rams Junior High: Inside a Dysfunctional Front Office #60623ZooeyModeratorZooey, why don’t you post your Jeff Gordon article here?
I don’t think I’m going to last very long over there. Seems to me I am just pissing people off, though it’s hard to tell since they are all really pissed off anyway.
Gordon: Snead’s role is filling Fisher’s needs
BY JEFF GORDON Feb 15, 2012Jeff Fisher is an established NFL head coach. As such, he will ultimately decide which players fit into his 53-man roster.
Fisher selects the starting lineups, with guidance from his assistants. The coaching staff mulls game match-ups. The staff devises the weekly game plans and makes the in-game adjustments. The staff calls the plays on both sides of the ball.
So Fisher and his coaches will make the final personnel calls. Period.
That is how it works when a franchise has the right guy at head coach.
General manager Les Snead’s job is to identify and acquire the sort of players Fisher needs. Through all means possible, Snead and his staff must add the personnel Fisher requires to transform a 2-14 team into a playoff threat.
Chief operating officer Kevin Demoff’s challenge is to make the numbers work. He must crunch all sorts of data and establish monetary values for current and prospective players. In a salary cap world, his role is critical. He makes the puzzle pieces fit.
But, as with Snead, his job is to make sure Fisher has the sort of players he wants.
Demoff, Snead and Fisher presented themselves to the media as a united team Tuesday afternoon. They insisted that decisions would be made collectively, with the shared sense of purpose to improve the Rams.
In the real world, though, personnel disagreements are inevitable. Player evaluation is an inexact science.
The head coach is primarily accountable for winning and losing. He must take his guys into battle, for better or worse.
So the roster must be his call. With that power comes the responsibility to trust the expertise of those around him so he can make the right decisions.
Stan Kroenke and Demoff landed Fisher as head coach by convincing him he could build his sort of football operation here in St. Louis. Once he signed on, the franchise continued its GM search and settled on Snead — a well-respected personnel expert who served various coaches and executives during his professional climb.
He arrives with the framework already in place. His role is to work within the established dynamics to give Fisher and his staff optimal options as they reshape the team.
Fisher needs wide receivers? Snead and Co. must find candidates who fit the offensive scheme, the team personality and the budget.
Fisher needs offensive tackles? The personnel guys and number guys work through all the options and discuss all possible scenarios with the coach before proceeding.
A host of factors decide whether the Rams get a particular player through the draft, free agency, a trade or general street scouring.
Everybody must work together through that process. Everybody must remain on the same page. All voices must be heard, but in the end cacophony must yield to harmony.
If it doesn’t, it’s up to Fisher to yell “Quiet!”
We know what happens when dysfunction sets in. The “Greatest Show on Turf” began its slide when general manager Charley Armey lost clout.
Jay Zygmunt, the numbers guy, fancied himself a football guy and grabbed power. Mike Martz, the head coach, came to believe he was a personnel wizard who didn’t need guidance from scouts.
As the team eroded, internal bickering escalated into brazen back-stabbing. Because the organization lacked steady leadership at the top — the owner was disengaged, the team president worked out of his Los Angeles office — chaos ensued.
Try as they might, various executives, scouts, head coaches and assistant coaches failed to restore order during subsequent seasons.
As the losses mounted last year, your cyber-correspondent suggested hiring a strong president for football operations to restore order from the top down. Kroenke went a different direction, hiring a strong coach to restore order from the sideline up.
And so here we are. The key operatives are in place. The chain of command is established.
Let the Rams overhaul begin.
December 9, 2016 at 11:30 am in reply to: Rams Junior High: Inside a Dysfunctional Front Office #60610ZooeyModeratorIn 2012, Fisher told Mike Silver that he chose Rams for “final say” on personnel. So Snead deflection is interesting
Yeah, that Snead deflection is REALLY interesting, Rich.
Let’s look at it again:
“I look at this as being my responsibility, the win-loss record. We need to do a better job from a personnel standpoint.
Somehow. Some way. This got translated into: “I look at this as being my resopnsibility, the win-loss record. Les Snead is to blame for not doing my job better.”
And you all just ran with that like it made perfect sense. And it makes such perfect sense to you that now that you have finally learned that Jeff Fisher has the final say on personnel, you just can’t figure out how he could say that about Les Snead.
It is a mystery. I can’t wait to hear your explanation once you’ve figured out what Fisher was doing.
Here’s a thought: maybe Jeff Fisher didn’t think anybody would point out that he is in charge of personnel. Or maybe…maybe!…Jeff Fisher doesn’t REMEMBER that he is in charge of personnel. There has to be an explanation for why he would blatantly blame Snead by saying “We.”
ZooeyModeratorAh, fuck this.
Fuck this whole thing.
There is so much more smoke here than fire. I don’t know. Maybe there IS something, but so far I haven’t seen any actual EVIDENCE of it. Only a lot of disgruntled people throwing accusations around.
I need a break.
ZooeyModeratorthinking about it yeah. i think it’s a stretch to take it as him slamming snead.
i’m really just wondering why he would say he had no idea snead signed an extension too, and i haven’t heard or read a convincing argument as to why he would say that when he must have known that he did sign an extension.
The speculation I posted elsewhere is this:
Jeff Fisher was trying to emphasize that he is focused on football, and on his job, and not distracted by all the commotion outside the gate, or extensions, or whatever. He is focused on football. And so he told a little stretcher there to help emphasize the point.
I mean, there is no way he didn’t know that.
But I don’t think it had anything to do with Snead in particular, just a guy trying to say, “Hey, I’m doing my job here, m’kay? This other stuff isn’t where my head is.” So he told a stupid fib. But I don’t personally think it was anything more than that.
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