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  • in reply to: signs, comics, memes, & other visual aids #111058
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    in reply to: Trump’s State of the Union Speech #111023
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    Well, W, there are a lot of media outlets building the parallel between Trump supporters and Sanders supporters. But…how are they meaningfully similar?

    Trump supporters are being fed a diet of anger and resentment. While I think Sanders was guilty of yelling at the billionaires too much in 2016, he has changed the tone of that rhetoric, and what I read online by Bernie supporters is really a passionate hunger for economic and environmental justice. They are fired up by a drive for inclusiveness, and support for complete strangers. I don’t think that’s comparable to your characterization of Trump supporters “coming down from the hills,” or whatever you said.

    And…I think I understand your fear of the vulnerability of a self-avowed socialist. I see that as a Cold War holdover, though. I’m a teacher. I haven’t seen a kid in 20 years say anything about socialism one way or another. To them, it’s about as scary/dangerous as the Boston Tea Party. Nobody under 40 is worried by the term.

    Sanders ranks as the #1 most popular senator in the country.

    In all the polls, Sanders fares better against Trump than any other candidate.

    IMO, all the hand-wringing over Sanders is caused by a widespread nervousness that he is unleashing the kraken. He is organizing the riff raff, and as president, he will openly encourage union membership and growth. That scares everybody. Honestly, I think the fear that Sanders will beat Trump is generally more widespread than the fear he will lose to Trump.

    in reply to: Iowa-turbulence and disinformation #111021
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    So all of the left is ablaze in hand-wringing over this, and smelling conspiracies, and so on. I am taking the position that this isn’t that big of a deal. I mean…we shall see how it all comes out whenever they get around to it, but I don’t think this is a conspiracy, and here’s why. There are paper records. There are many, many witnesses. I mean…it’s a CAUCUS. Everybody is out in the open. This isn’t secret ballot. There are multiple eye witnesses in every single precinct to what happened. Right? If they were going to fake this thing, Iowa is NOT the place to do it. You can’t fake these numbers in any way and expect to get away with it. Everybody was THERE, watching it happen in front of their faces. You can’t fake that by one single vote without risk of getting exposed for cheating.

    What I think happened is the run-of-the-mill, corrupt bullshit the Dems have become known for. They are all in the business of getting rich, and making their friends rich, and this was a “make our friends rich” scheme by buying a $1.00 App for a million dollars, or whatever it was. And they fucked up the app. So now they have to go through all the paper that they did not plan to go through, and weren’t prepared for. And then they are comparing that to the app, and the Bernie people are there with their results, and the Biden people are there, and the On and On people are all there scrutinizing these numbers, and it’s taking time. And Pete…he’s a kid. He hoped for victory, and he declared it too early, and that’s what happened. Now…I don’t trust the DNC, and we all know they will do everything they can to prevent Sanders from winning…but i don’t think this is a Thing in Iowa.

    So now Perez has announced the count is starting over. And the left is all ablaze saying that this is motivated by the desire to keep it under the lid that Sanders won until after the debate tomorrow. I don’t think that’s likely, either. It’s pretty clear that Sanders got the most votes, and he is now declaring that openly anyway. I’m guessing they finally recognized that they have a “perception problem,” and they want to get this thing fucking right. There were a few problems with the numbers, all against Sanders…or so it seems.

    Anyway…all this does, in fact, deprive Sanders of a headline. I think everybody is overblowing the importance of the “momentum” coming from that, but whatever.

    The other thing it does is bury the bigger story that Biden got clobbered, and is coming out of Iowa empty-handed.

    in reply to: Tom Tomorrow #111006
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    in reply to: Iowa-turbulence and disinformation #111004
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    Enh.

    It is a Fail, and it’s embarrassing, but if nothing else happens the rest of the way, it will be forgotten.

    in reply to: Trump’s State of the Union Speech #111003
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    My thoughts:

    1. Trump IS formidable, and the election will be close unless the Dems screw up everything somehow with a debacle of some kind in the primaries/convention.

    2. The GOP accused Obama of being a socialist. They are going to throw everything they can at the nominee, no matter who it is. And some of those things will be real, and some of them will be made up.

    3. The difference, imo, will be voter turnout. And the enthusiasm is deeper and wider for Sanders than for any other candidate. I know he repels a lot of people, and that will cost him some votes. But the early indications are that he will bring in a lot of the Obama voters who sat out 2016, and his popularity among the largest voting block (the youngsters) outstrips every other candidate by a wide margin. And that is a tough group to get to the booth.

    4. Trump is going to get all the deplorable ignorants out of their beds, into their trucks, and down from the hills into the voting booths no matter what. We have to outvote them.

    in reply to: signs, comics, memes, & other visual aids #110956
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    in reply to: Bernies Ads are good #110954
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    https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=495738147989841

    I hope this link works. It’s an ad made by supporters, so it’s not an actual ad.

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    That Frum article is something else.

    I awoke to that on my phone this morning, and I read it.

    The idea that Sanders – who is hated by every person with political power in this country – has not faced serious inspection is the worst take I’ve read.

    But…just 2 hours ago, The Hill published a piece arguing that Sanders is Too Establishment. Seriously. Sanders is part of the Swamp…in addition to being too radical to be Electable.

    But back to the Frum piece…that’s what Sanders looks like to people inside the bubble. They just literally cannot see any appeal to a guy who thinks people care about healthcare, education, and working wages. Like…nobody I know is worried about this…WTF?

    in reply to: Tom Tomorrow #110721
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    in reply to: signs, comics, memes, & other visual aids #110720
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    in reply to: WV #110690
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    I had no idea the song was from that far back. I heard it for the first time in the 80s when Peter Gunn hit the charts in England.

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    I didn’t realize the Rogan thing was such a big deal. I’ve listened to only one Rogan podcast (it was with Graham Hitchcock…really interesting), and I had no idea Rogan is such a Big Deal. Apparently he has a massive, massive audience, and a lot of it is working class Trump territory (UFC fans, etc), and his endorsement is actually kind of a thing.

    in reply to: signs, comics, memes, & other visual aids #110644
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    in reply to: WHY ? #110618
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    But what about older white women or black men or women. Why white older men ?

    I speculate that it is because Trump addressed the unique grievances of the older white males. Conservative media has spent 30 years nurturing resentment of PC culture, and Trump pushed those buttons. The PC culture is a questioning of white patriarchy. Older white women to some degree, and black people of both genders, are not as likely to be annoyed by messages of inclusion.

    in reply to: NY Tmes Endorses Warren and Klobachar #110610
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    Apparently the Times interviewed all the candidates and released the videos (or parts thereof, I dunno).

    Here’s a 39 second Bernie bit. Enjoy the body language of the editors.

    in reply to: NY Tmes Endorses Warren and Klobachar #110596
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    in reply to: NY Tmes Endorses Warren and Klobachar #110593
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    Furthermore, of course, the NY Times (and CNN, and WaPo) would love to have gender and sexuality issues dominate the conversation, not class and social inequality. Doubling down on 2 women reinforces that focus.

    in reply to: NY Tmes Endorses Warren and Klobachar #110583
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    It’s kind of curious. I don’t think they want to endorse Warren alone because she is considered progressive by many people, and the NY Times doesn’t want to be seen as going All In on progressivism. So Sanders is out right from the beginning. That leaves Warren, a bunch of people all running in the same lane, and a few outsiders. I can only think that they arrived at Klobuchar because…Biden is going to unravel in the daylight, and Buttigieg is in way over his head at this point in his career, and Bloomberg represents everything that Americans are rebelling against right now. Nobody considers Steyer, Yang, Gabbard, or anyone else to be a serious candidate, and that leaves Klobuchar. It’s the least embarrassing endorsement for the NY Times. So they straddle the fence with the two “safest” endorsements, and burnish their image as objective and even-handed while taking credit for being slightly forward by splitting the endorsement between two women. This isn’t about an Endorsement this time around. 2020 is too dicey. This is about the image of the NY Times.

    in reply to: Warren Claims Sanders Gave Her Smallpox Blanket #110520
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    in reply to: Tom Tomorrow #110519
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    in reply to: signs, comics, memes, & other visual aids #110518
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    in reply to: Standard Issue Letter to Editor #110501
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    Oh…hey. A former student of mine is running for congress out here. I found out through Facebook. Totally progressive platform. He’s taking on a long time Dem incumbent, however, so…but still! Pretty cool.

    in reply to: Standard Issue Letter to Editor #110500
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    My favorite thing is “When Bernie loses, they will run riot through the streets, beating up people, setting buildings on fire, smashing windows, and raging like Mad Dogs. Just Like Last Election.”

    in reply to: Warren Claims Sanders Gave Her Smallpox Blanket #110445
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    Just watched the video.

    I don’t think it’s going to backfire on Warren much. A little, maybe. What it has done is riled up the women who blame Bernie for Hillary’s defeat, but they were already supporting Warren. It’s not going to peel away Sanders supporters to Warren’s camp. People who support Sanders – like you said – they know there’s no way Bernie would say that. And I don’t think it will cost Sanders votes in the primaries, but it could cost some votes in the general election should he somehow survive the DNC/media onslaught to win the nomination. Some Democrats are going to give Sanders “a taste of his own medicine,” and either not vote, or vote 3rd party.

    in reply to: Warren Claims Sanders Gave Her Smallpox Blanket #110444
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    Taibbi has reported that there were no witnesses to the meeting between Sanders and Warren. Only Warren was there. Which means she is the source of the story. Warren has (allegedly) been consulting both Hillary and Obama – and Obama is reported to be opposed to Sanders, and said he will personally intervene if necessary to prevent him from getting the nomination. Hillary would also hate to see Sanders nominated. And the day before the final debate before Iowa…this story breaks. This is Warren’s responsibility. She has done this deliberately to make sure that questions will be asked about this during tonight’s debate…on CNN…the network that broke the story. She is going for Sanders’ jugular right now, and she has a plan to capture the debate tonight.

    This is easily the worst thing Warren has done. It will be interesting to see how this plays out, but this is dangerous. She could damage the progressive cause by pissing off some people who might support Sanders as a second choice if she loses. This is brutal.

    And I agree with you. No way Bernie would say a woman can’t win. The accusation is ridiculous on the face of it. I hope he has a successful tactic to quietly dismiss this, and move on. I think he will say that if Warren wins the nomination, he will support her tirelessly, just like he supported Hillary, and then talk about issues that matter.

    I hope Warren drops out soon, or else there will be a brokered convention, and we’re screwed. Trump will get re-elected.

    in reply to: AOC #110432
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    Why do you insist on bringing good news
    to the board?

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    You know me…never a disparaging word.

    in reply to: signs, comics, memes, & other visual aids #110428
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    in reply to: signs, comics, memes, & other visual aids #110427
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    in reply to: AOC #110423
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    https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/01/13/ocasio-cortezs-revolt-against-dccc-exactly-what-we-need-say-progressive-democrats

    Ocasio-Cortez’s Revolt Against DCCC ‘Exactly What We Need’ Say Progressive Democrats
    Congresswoman from New York withholds dues from the party machine and launches a new PAC to help insurgent left-wing candidates.

    Just wanted to mention that I am a fan of this move. Not giving dues to the DCCC who is hostile to progressives is pretty bold, and she will no doubt catch flak for it. And she’s formed a PAC to work for other progressive candidates, putting her directly at odds with the Dem establishment.

    The National Review says, though, that she takes half the cut into her own campaign funds which isn’t a good look, if true.

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