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    am i crazy to think he’ll be even better at strong safety?

    I think that too fwiw.

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    in reply to: McDonald suspended #66820
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    I am assuming that is without pay.

    Does that free up cap space, or not?

    Well I expect Seattle fans to be confused about this.

    But, Rams fans know that McD was a goner, and that the Rams 2 starting safeties this year are Joyner and Alexander.

    Joyner to FS: http://theramshuddle.com/topic/joyner-to-fs/

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    Rams Head Coach Sean McVay – League Meeting Media Availability – Wednesday, March 29, 2017

    (On spending time with some of the veteran head coaches)

    “It was pretty cool yesterday. You’re sitting at the pool after we finished up the meetings. You’re sitting there with (Steelers Head Coach) Mike Tomlin and (Saints Head Coach) Sean Peyton and how willing those guys are to share. This is probably the first time that it’s starting to kind of set in, what a unique experience it is. You actually slow down a little bit when you come to these, as opposed to how fast things are going back in L.A. and trying to get everything settled and situated. What a unique thing and what a refreshing experience it has been with how willing everyone has been to share.”

    (On what it is like for him to experience a league meeting, when a decade ago he was finishing up college at Miami University (Ohio))

    “It’s surreal. It’s very humbling. You reflect back on how appreciative you are to a lot of people that were willing to invest in me. You’re also aware that you’ve been very fortunate with timing. Walking over with (Buccaneers Head Coach) Dirk Koetter this morning, and even thinking back to when I finished playing at Miami (University, Ohio), to have the opportunity to get right in to coaching at the NFL level when (former Buccaneers Head Coach) Coach (Jon) Gruden hires me on at Tampa. I was fortunate where you don’t have to go some of those routes where you’re a GA in college, so that’s where you’re just very appreciative. Being around good people is a huge reason of why I’m fortunate enough to be in this role right now.”

    (On if during his time as an assistant coach, he ever wondered what happened at league meetings)

    “Well, I think with the coverage that this gets, people always joke, ‘Do you watch anything other than ESPN and NFL Network?’ But, because of the coverage you kind of have an awareness and an understanding. And (Redskins Head Coach) Jay (Gruden) was always so willing to share, especially when you get to where you’re off because of the league meetings because the general manager and the Head Coach and owners are going to this. I think it’s a unique experience. Didn’t know what to expect. When you’re sitting in those meetings yesterday with the owners, GMs are voting on a couple of those different things. (Falcons President and CEO) Rich McKay is up there explaining and articulating why some of these propositions are being made or some of the other teams that might have proposed a change is pretty cool. It kind of gives you a better understanding of what we’re trying to get done for this game.”

    (On if he has noticed a change from being in a position to make suggestions to making decisions)

    “I think the first time, really a couple years ago when you go back, when Jay gives you the opportunity to call plays in Washington is the first time where you’ve got the accountability to make those decisions, they’re highly scrutinized or you’re fortunate enough, if things work out, where you feel good about it. But, being in a role where you’re involved in some of the personnel where you’re having discussions with (General Manager) Les (Snead) on a daily basis about what type of players are we trying to acquire. Then, based on what we did in free agency how that’s going affect the way that we approach the draft. It’s really unique. But, I think it goes back to that communication – we always talk about it, it’s a trademark of any quality organization – and that’s what we’re going to strive to do. It’s about us all collaborating and figuring out a way to do it. The other thing that I would say is what’s been so refreshing is getting a chance to come in to this opportunity, some of the other leaders that were already in place – are really strong. And that enables you to keep the main thing, the main thing. You can keep it about coaching – that’s why you can’t wait for the players to get involved. You can really lean on Les and (Executive Vice President/Chief Operating Officer) Kevin Demoff with their leadership – that’s why you’re excited. You’re sitting there at dinner last night with a lot of these people and that’s why you say, ‘Let’s get this right,’ because these are a bunch of good people and I want to be able to do this with them for a really long time.”

    (On his use of technology in assessing players and if that’s part of his generation)

    “I think what’s unique about that is as you look at all of the different things that are at our disposal to be able to more efficient with how you work. I wouldn’t say that I’m quite there yet. But, being able to understand how you can make a cut-up quickly. How you can utilize and access information about a certain player, different things like that – they’ve already done a good job. Les has incorporated kind of a specific area in the building where you have three really smart people that have a bunch of different analytical data that they can pull anything up based on what we’re looking for. I do think it’s a benefit. Really, that’s our entire staff. We have a bunch of experienced people but they’re all still youthful where they’re up-to-date. I think that can enable you to be more efficient, especially when you go throughout the process of acquiring players – gathering that information and then when you’re trying to put together a game plan on a weekly basis and compiling that data that is going to dictate and determine a lot of those decisions that are made on gameday.”

    (On Demoff saying that the roster is starting to take on McVay’s image)

    “That’s nice of Kevin. I think they are taking on our image, kind of what we’ve all agreed that we’re looking for. When you really look at some of the players that we’ve acquired; when you look at an (T) Andrew Whitworth, you look at a (RB) Lance Dunbar, (WR) Robert Woods – especially just on offense – get (CB) Kayvon Webster and (OLB) Connor Barwin – these are good people that kind of represent what we want to be in terms of that football character: accountability, coach-ability, you can depend on these guys. Then, they also have a certain way about themselves when you talk about them. Kayvon’s kind of the guy that doesn’t have as much experience. Lance is a guy that when he got his opportunities in Dallas, I thought he showed really well. But, you look at Connor Barwin, you look at Andrew Whitworth – these are guys that have been Pro Bowl caliber players. I worked very closely with Jay (Gruden) – couldn’t say enough things about Andrew Whitworth. Then you get around him and you see this guy is different. He’s played at an extremely productive level and he’s a grown man. I think for our offense, especially with how many young players that we have when you look at (WR) Tavon (Austin), (RB) Todd (Gurley) and (QB) Jared (Goff) – a lot of those skill guys. I think being able to have a player of his magnitude, but also just the way that he handles himself is going to be extremely beneficial. He’s going to be someone that I’m going to lean on. He’s the only guy on the team that’s older than me, but he’s great. Then, Robert Woods is a guy that I’ve been really impressed with him just going back and watching him play at USC. He does all of the little things the right way. He’s competing in the run game. He can play inside, outside. Aaron Kromer, our offensive line coach, was with him last year. Then (Redskins Wide Receivers Coach) Ike Hilliard who I was with in Washington the last handful of years had him in Buffalo. Everybody that you talk to can’t say enough nice things and good thing about him. (Defensive Coordinator) Wade (Phillips) was with both Connor and Kayvon and having his opinion on those guys and that intricate, inside knowledge, especially with Kayvon when he didn’t have a lot of snaps is really helpful and it’s why you’re glad to have a guy like Wade Phillips that we can all lean on. I think his resume speaks for itself.”

    (On his first meeting with Whitworth)

    “The first meeting was – the way things are set-up – really, the first time that you’re meeting him in person was when he came in to sign his contract. Just how impressive he is when you talk football, you feel like you’re talking to a coach. Talking to those other coaches that have been with him: Jay (Gruden), (Bengals Defensive Coordinator) Paul Guenther, (Bengals Offensive Coordinator) Ken Zampese, even (Bengals Head Coach) Marvin (Lewis) – talking about the leader that he is. Whether it was offensive or defensive players, he had a way of bringing people together. You get around him and he’s got a presence and a way about himself that’s very impressive. He’s a guy that we feel very fortunate to have. He brings his family in and you can see he’s all about the right stuff. That’s why, I think, he’ll be great for us.”

    (On the best thing that Wade Phillips has given him so far)

    “What he did was, when you’re looking at setting up for phase one, especially kind of getting to know the team, how we’re going to meet as a team, establish our identity, both what we’re looking for in Rams and that kind of culture we’re trying to create. Initially, we had things set-up where we were going to meet 30 minutes at the beginning of the week to kind of set the tone, and Wade comes up – and he’s been great about picking and choosing his spots – and he says, ‘I think it’s really important for you to meet with the team every day, so they can get a feel and especially establish that rapport with the defensive players.” To have somebody like that, that’s been in this role but from a defensive perspective and how he connected with the offensive players – I think that’s great. You sit in some of their defensive staff meetings. He’s got a subtle way about just what he picks up on and what he notices, just those fundamental things – you quickly realize why he’s such a good coach. I know I’m going to learn a lot from him. That first meeting when he was meeting with the defensive staff, I loved what he said. I’ve said this to a couple of you guys before. He says, ‘You’re not working for me, you’re working with me.’ I love that. I thought that was something that we want to embody as an organization, especially with our whole coaching staff. It’s kind of something every day, but that was one thing recently that stood out. We’re going to meet every day. It won’t be too long, but it will be a chance to allow the team to get to know us and get to know me as a coach.”

    (On if he expects T Andrew Whitworth to be a sounding board for QB Jared Goff)

    “Absolutely. I think, especially when you look at that left tackle position, what he’ll be able to do for Jared and that mentorship – and he’s seen what it looks like. You’re talking about (former Bengals QB) Carson (Palmer) and (Bengals QB) Andy (Dalton), those are guys that have played an extremely high level. You look at the success they’ve had in Cincinnati when he’s been there. I think there’s a lot of value in guys that know what it looks like when it’s right. There’s a certain way that players who are those leaders, where it’s genuine and authentic, their message is going to resonate even different than a coach, just based on the way things are structurally set up. You can say something, but when Andrew Whitworth is talking to Jared, or even a (RB) Todd (Gurley), just offering his bit of advice, I think it’s received in a different way, because they’re actually the ones that are going to battle in and out of the huddle with him. I think that’s what his contribution will be and I definitely expect him to do the same.”

    (On how he monitors Jared Goff when coaches cannot have contact with the players)

    “That’s what’s so frustrating. Because you want to be able to be around these guys – he wants to be in the building, you want to start teaching him our system and see how he’s able to articulate our verbiage, yell it in the huddle and then be able to translate it to the grass. I think what’s ended up happening right now is he’s done a good job, he’s gone out of his way to seek out (baseball pitching coach and quarterback coach) Tom House, working on throwing the football and things like that. I think he’s got a little bit of an idea of what we’re going to try to do, so when he’s throwing with some of our receivers, you’re at least getting work in where it’s going to translate to what we’re going to be doing here in a couple weeks. But it’s really frustrating and that’s why that April 10th date can’t come around fast enough. And it’s why, when you’ve got nine weeks – and really we’ve got 10 with the addition of that voluntary minicamp, being (our first as a staff) – you can’t waste a single day. Every minute is so precious and none more important than at that quarterback position, because of the amount of information that he’s going to have to absorb and be able to retain.”

    (On what would happen if Tom House teaches Jared Goff different mechanical things than what McVay would teach)

    “That’s why I thought it was really important where we’re in alignment. We’ve talked Tom, Tom and Adam (Dedeaux), they’ve been great. And, actually, (offensive coordinator) Matt LaFleur was kind of the one that put it in motion because he and (Falcons QB) Matt Ryan, they did that last year and had a bunch of success. And I know it really helped Matt (Ryan) and Matt (LaFleur) felt really good about it. We are in alignment with a lot of the fundamentals and a lot of the mechanics in terms of how we want to throw the football in an efficient manner. That’s what’s nice about it, before he even goes and works with those guys, you know that your core beliefs are in alignment with some of the things they’ve been working on.”

    (On if he would be in favor of allowing coaches to have more contact with quarterbacks in the offseason)

    “Absolutely. I think, as a coach – if you ask any of these guys, I think they’re all going to say, ‘Of course, we want our players around more, we want to be able to have more access to them and them to us.’ I think it serves a couple of different roles. For one, it gives you a chance to develop a relationship, more of a rapport with them from just a foundational level, but then also being able to teach them football – I don’t think that can be underappreciated. Anytime, as a coach, you’re going to ask if I want the players around more, the answer is always going to be yes. And I would be willing to bet that the other 31 guys would say the same thing.”

    (On if it is different at the quarterback position in particular)

    “Yeah, I think it’s so important. That’s why you see some teams bring in those quarterbacks early in training camp. It’s why you appreciate – being in Washington with a couple guys that truly were extensions of our coaching staff – that’s what you hope to quickly do with Jared and (QB) Sean Mannion and we just added (QB) Aaron Murray, as well. The amount of information, you always talk about it all the time, just from an offensive philosophy and I learned that this goes back to my grandfather’s influence on me and what he said (former 49ers Head Coach) Bill Walsh would always talk about is it’s the most difficult position in all of sports, it’s the most important one for the football team, so everything that we do starts with the quarterback in mind. And our job is to make the most difficult position as easy as we can – obviously you can’t do that, but being able to have them have an understanding and kind of know from our perspective what we’re thinking and why we’re running certain plays in different situations is going to be the important thing and that’s why you need more time with these guys.”

    (On if he is going nuts not being able to talk to the players)

    “Absolutely. You’re going nuts because, again, going back to that April 10th date, they’re around – that’s the nice thing about the L.A. area, that the players stay around. There are certain places where they get out of town and live in other places in the offseason. So, if you had the ability to be able to spend more time with them, especially because they’re around, even if it was something where, if they wanted to come in, you could do it. You can’t even do that. And that’s why, what you’re doing right now, you’re so busy, there are so many different things – with free agency, implementing our schemes where the coaches are getting on the same page so when April 10th does come, we’re all speaking the same language, especially that quarterback position, where Matt LaFleur, (quarterbacks coach) Greg Olson, myself, we’re going to have a lot of interaction with Jared and Sean and that quarterback room as a whole. Making sure that all three of us coming from different places, are speaking that same language and not sending mixed messages is going to be important. And that’s kind of how you’re passing time right now.”

    (On how much he will coach the quarterbacks and if he will be in the quarterback room every day)

    “What we’ll do is, a lot of the ways we’ll implement our offense will be skill-driven. Most of the time, unless it’s a unit meeting where you’re addressing the entire offense and you’re talking about something that applies to everybody, we’ll start out with the quarterbacks, receivers, tight ends and running backs are all together. I’ll be involved in all those meetings where you’re installing the offense, you’re talking about some of the core things, showing some of the tape. And then I think it is important, when you break up individually, to let the coaches coach. That’s something that I really took from (Washington Head Coach) Jay (Gruden), is his ability to empower his assistants, trust them to do their job and that’s what you want to be able to do. I’ll try to be in there, but I also think it’s important for me to be visual and visible to the entire team. I look at it as my contribution to the offense will be to install with those skill players and then when you break up individually, letting those coaches coach, find a way to bounce around where you’re able to be visible. That’s kind of how that will be. And then, on the field, if we ever have an unscripted period, or during certain things like that, I’ll call the plays. But individual drills, I want to allow those coaches to coach their players and develop that rapport with them as well.”

    (On how much it sped up his process that Jay Gruden let him coach)

    “I think it’s a huge reason why I’m fortunate enough to be in this role. Because, until you do that, as a coach you always like to think you’re preparing yourself – and then until you do it, you realize what a difficult task it is. I’ve heard (Steelers Head Coach) Mike Tomlin say this, ‘Everybody has the answers, but no accountability.’ When you start calling plays, you’re accountable for those decisions and different things that are made. I thought it was great just to be able to do that. You look at, from year one to year two, how much you learned and you realize you’re a much better play-caller when you have good players like we had in Washington, too. It was great, I think it’s a huge reason why I’m sitting here. I can’t tell you how much I learned from that.”

    (On QB Kirk Cousins’ value to Washington and to its offense)

    “It’s funny, because you know what a big fan of his that I am. The first week that I got the job, they asked me about this and you go on and on about Kirk – I get a call from Rams (Executive Vice President of Football Operations/C.O.O.) Kevin Demoff saying, ‘Hey, when you talk about other players now, that’s tampering, you can’t do that.’ I would love to be able to go on, but I can’t talk about Kirk right now.”

    (On how he eases the transition to the NFL for young quarterbacks who haven’t called plays in a huddle before)

    “That’s it right there. Because a lot of the things that you’re trying to evaluate, especially in the college game, playing underneath the center and running a play-action game, just doing some different things, it’s totally different. It’s why you have to do a good job projecting and being able to see what are those three or four things that you really value from an intangible standpoint and then from a physical-trait standpoint that you can’t evaluate when you might not be able to see a guy work through pure progression or different things like that. I think those guys that are doing that, those teams that you see operate underneath a center in a conventional pro-style, if you will, they’re a little bit easier to evaluate. But I think there’s examples of guys around the league having success. And I think good coaches do a nice job of adjusting and adapting to whatever your players do best. We were just talking about it earlier, the thing that’s frustrating, especially with the quarterback spot is how little time you get with them. So then you end up projecting, you say, ‘Okay, we’re going to take a Jared Goff.’ And he’s almost exclusively operating out of the shotgun at Cal, he plays for three years and now he comes in as a rookie, he has seven games of experience where he showed some signs, showed some of those things. That’s why, when you get into this role, you want to be able to get with him right away because there’s so many different things you want to see and evaluate. But it does much, much more difficult. That’s why you have to do a good job evaluating, projecting and figuring out what you’re looking for that you value and then see if it translates.”

    (On how much QB Jared Goff has been in the film room this offseason)

    “He’s around, he’s hungry for information. There’s even still some restrictions. Even if he wants to be there, you can’t do anything that’s football related. He’s around though, and you can tell he’s dying to get going. It’s the same thing with (Rams QB) Sean Mannion, and a lot of those players. They’re all around and they’re present. Most of the guys have been in the building where you get a chance to meet them face-to-face. He’s around and you want to be able to spend a lot more time with him.”

    (On the transition from adapting to the West Coast from the East Coast)

    “I’ve had people joke with me. They say, ‘You seem like an L.A. guy already.’ But, it’s been good. Anytime that you get a chance to go from Washington (D.C.) to L.A., I think it’s really just getting used to the three hour time difference. That’s the one biggest change. I love being in a city with great weather. I like to be be outdoors as much as possible. It’s like teasing me though, when you see how nice it is and you’re inside doing some different stuff. But, I’ve loved every second of it. Where our facilities are, it’s in a great place in Thousand Oaks. The biggest thing is getting used to communicating with people back East on the three hour time difference. Fortunately, I’m an early guy, so it kind of times up. But at the end of the night, if you want to call somebody at 8:00 (p.m.) when you’re on your way home, and it’s 11:00 (p.m.) back there, usually most people are sleep by then. That’s been the biggest transition.”

    (On if he’s going to continue to call plays, and if so, how he will balance it)

    “That’s really important, and I am going to call the plays. When you really look at it, I think it’ll be a collaborative effort. That was something where when we put together a game plan, it’s going to involve all of our offensive assistants. In essence, we’re just setting the table. And there’s a bunch of conversation and dialogue that goes on throughout the course of the game where you heavily rely on your assistants. And then, you’re the one that kind of sends it in and communicates with the quarterback. Talking about it earlier, I think that’s why you feel so good about the other leadership positions, where you can delegate and trust that they’re going to do their deal. And that’s why you feel so good about having a (Defensive Coordinator) Wade Philips and a (Special Teams Coordinator) John Fassel running the special teams and the defense where you want to be visible. You want to make sure that you’re a Head Coach that is an offensive coach. Not just an offensive coach that is actually the head coach as well. I think it’s going to be an ongoing balance. I talked to (Dolphins Head Coach) Adam Gase about that, because that was one of the things that he’s been able to give me some great advice. Sitting there yesterday with (Saints Head Coach) Sean Payton kind of in a similar role. Having those guys so willing to share and kind of be able to articulate and explain some of the challenges that they went through, has been really helpful. And seeing it first-hand with (Redskins Head Coach) Jay (Gruden) and working for Coach (Jon) Gruden. So, I’ve kind of been around guys that have done it. I think it’s really helpful to be able to see it first-hand, and then have these guys who are so willing to share throughout the course of that.”

    (On information that other coaches have shared with him that has helped his transition)

    “I think trust your assistants. Then, make sure that, especially if you are going to call out how important it is to be involved in those meetings, so that the message that the players are getting is consistent. Because especially with some of these guys you haven’t worked with, you got to make sure that what you’re saying is received by the players. They’re all hearing that same message so that they know exactly what the roles and responsibilities are within the framework of a concept or a certain play. That communication is extremely important. Then, being able to trust those other guys that when you’re not able to be there, knowing that that message is going to be consistent, and it all goes back to communication.”

    (On if he’s ever talked to his grandfather about his time with the New York Giants)

    “Absolutely. It’s funny, if you’ve ever met my grandfather, he’s probably one of the most even-keeled people that you’ve ever met. At the time when that occurred, my dad was playing at Indiana University. He’s getting pounded in the New York media about that situation. He calls my grandpa, and he says, ‘Hey Dad, don’t worry. One day, we’ll all look back on this and laugh.’ And my grandfather said, ‘Tim, there is no chance we’ll ever go back to that situation (laughter).’ He said, ‘Ain’t no chance.’ He used some other verbiage in-between that (laughter). But, it ended up kind of being a blessing in disguise where he goes to San Francisco, and gets a chance to be a part of five world championships, and it’s a pretty unique deal. He kept his first and fifth rings. He’s got three sons. He gave his other three rings to his kids. So, when my Dad wears a Super Bowl ring, I go, ‘You can’t wear that man. You didn’t have anything to do with that.’ But, it’s pretty unique, and he has talked to me about that.”

    (On if he’s watched that play before)

    “Yeah. I think you see that run over, and over again. Then, it pans to my grandfather on sideline. That was a tough experience, but adversity’s inevitable in this game. I think that’s why my grandfather was able to have so much success is he didn’t blink, he kept it moving, and I think he did a nice job for himself.”

    (On how difficult it is working with a guy with a one-year deal, when you don’t know where he will be down the road)

    “I think when you really look at this league, it’s such a, ‘What’s important now?’ Let’s just stay in the moment and not get ahead of ourselves. You look at how many different things change year-to-year. Even to think that I got a chance to sit here right now in this role, when a year ago, you’re kind of getting ready for the draft for the Redskins. So, I think what’s important is having people that are mentally tough, are able to focus on the now, and realize what’s important, especially with how much this league changes from year-to-year. Being around mentally tough people is kind of what you want, and that’s what a lot of those players were that I was able to work with in Washington.”

    (On if he ever had concerns working with quarterbacks in regards to their mental toughness)

    “I think what you look at is, the quarterback position is so tolling, there’s so much pressure on it just in general by the nature of the spot. Then, whether it’s a guy getting a big contact, getting a franchise deal, that comes with expectations. I think what’s important is for those guys to remember that you’re either getting paid or you’re becoming a franchise player because you’ve played at a high level. So, don’t lose sight of what got you to this spot. Don’t put too much pressure on yourself, just operate. Focus on your role, your responsibility within the framework of each play or kind of whatever we’re asking. I think when you’re around those types of guys, like I’ve been, they’re able to do that. They worry about just being the best football player that they can be, and they know that the rest will kind of take care of itself.”

    (On what his thoughts were when he was sitting at the head coaches’ group picture)

    “What’s going through my head is, this sun is really bright, I should’ve worn some shades. It’s unique. Just this experience, being around these guys is probably the first time it’s set in where you realize what a unique deal and what a humbling and really cool experience it is to be around these other 31 coaches. It’s definitely something that you’ll cherish. You get that picture and what a flattering and unique, cool experience it’s been.”

    (On his experience this week)

    “I think what you are, is you’re appreciative. You don’t want to be, kind of, a fan, but in a lot of ways, you have so much respect for this game, that I’m a fan of a lot of these coaches. You have such a huge amount of respect for the way they lead, the way they communicate, the way they call plays and handle different situations. I’m a fan of a lot of these guys. That’s why what’s been cool is sitting down with (Falcons Head Coach) Dan Quinn, like I had mentioned, talking to (Steelers Head Coach) Mike Tomlin and (Saints Head Coach) Sean Payton yesterday, reconnecting with (49ers Head Coach) Kyle (Shanahan). What a neat kind of experience it’s been to have these guys so willing to share. Talking to Dan Quinn about how did he handle his first team meetings – I’ve always respected the way that he’s led. What a mentally tough person he is. You look at the way they handled things after the Super Bowl, talk about the epitome of class. That toughness that his team embodies and kind of personified through their leader. And that’s what’s been, really, awesome about it all – you’re just continuing to learn and grow. And that’s what it’s about.”

    (On CB Kayvon Webster Snapchatting former NFL QB Peyton Manning at the Rams facility)

    “Yeah, Kayvon’s Snapchats, hanging out with Peyton. Just like you’re talking about with these coaches, when you get some exposure – that’s what’s been really unique about it all, is the exposure you get to different people in certain roles and responsibilities. Peyton is a guy that, obviously, his track record is so impressive with what he represents from the above-the-neck approach as a player. Getting his perspective on how he’s done things, what he thinks based on – whether you’re talking about football or his interaction with teammates – what kind of recommendations he would have for (Rams QB) Jared (Goff), in terms of developing and establishing that rapport with his guys and his receivers and tight ends and backs. Anytime that you get around somebody that’s been great and that’s a surefire first-ballot Hall of Famer, that’s a pretty good deal.”

    (On what he saw last year from RB Todd Gurley)

    “I think what you look back at is, the run game takes all 11 – whether it’s getting it targeted up front the right way with your linemen, having receivers that are willing to come down and block safeties when they bring an eighth guy down in the box, if you’ve got some run-pass options with the quarterback where you want to run it versus a two safety look and throw it versus single-high, I think it takes all 11. And the back has to do a great job pressing it or reading out his keys, because everybody is tied together. Those landmarks up front are tied in with where the back’s supposed to initially start his read. I think what you still see is a lot of times you have a tendency to just look at the stats instead of the actual tape. I think you still see a natural runner who’s got a great body, he has a natural feel for how to work edges on people. And I think that showed up in spurts last year. Clearly, what he did in his rookie year, I think it sets the expectations where this guy is going to be a great back year-in and year-out. And that’s what we feel, too. I think Todd’s motivated, challenged in the right way to respond and can have a bounce back year. But it’s going to take everybody and Todd is going to be a big part of it and we feel like he’s going to be a really good, consistent back that kind of, is one of the better ones in this league for a long time – that’s the goal.”

    (On how he responds to people who question his experience level and young age)

    “I think it’s natural. Because you are aware of how fortunate you are to be in this role in such a short amount of time, but I think it’s just about taking it one day at a time and ultimately it’s a production based business. The results will end up dictating and determining what is said about that and that’s why you feel so good about having great people around you. You have to do a great job to help our players reach their highest potential. But, I’ve been fortunate, where you’ve been around this game for such a long time and you realize that if you don’t win, things are going to be said and everybody’s got a job to do and if you do (win) than that’s the goal. Every single week we’re not going to lose sight of that, but right now what we’re focused on is establishing a rapport with our players, getting better every single day, and then ultimately trying to put ourselves in a situation to compete every single week for wins.”

    (On if his experience makes him feel like an old soul)

    ”I’ve had people tell me that. So, I take that as a compliment. You have an appreciation for the history of leadership, especially coaches in general. I’ve always been a big fan of reading, trying to just continue to learn and acquire information. That is something that has been said, and I take it as a compliment.”

    (On whether there are any books he’s had time to read recently during his recent move across the country)

    “Actually – you try to read a little bit at night – a book I’m reading right now is You Win in the Locker Room First. A guy named Jon Gordon wrote it and Mike Smith (former NFL Head Coach/Buccaneers Defensive Coordinator) had a part in it as well. A lot of the core beliefs, a lot of the things in terms of implementing a culture, what you’re going to be based on – are some of those messages that we want to be able to kind of have be a foundation of what we’re trying to do in L.A. That’s actually the book that I’m reading right now.”

    (On anything that he’s read that has been helpful to him in his job)

    “The book that I probably pull the most from is The Score Takes Care of Itself. Bill Walsh (former 49ers Head Coach) wrote it with Steve Jameson and that was really after he had finished up and Bill was so willing to share with his process and it was kind of all encompassing. A lot of the core messages had a huge influence on me. I think when you look back at what he was able to do and accomplish, you want to try to mimic and emulate it, but you also want to make it your own. That’s one of the things that I thought was pretty cool, that’s been consistent with a lot of the coaches that I’ve kind of reached out to. You want to make sure you’re establishing that identity, but you also want to do it true to what you and your coaching staff truly believes in and be yourself. That’s probably the book that has been the most influential that you end up pulling from a lot and I go back to it a lot as well.”

    (On whether the title of the book is the overall message)

    “Yeah, he would say focus on all the little things with precision and detail and the score will take care of itself and that’s where you kind of hear us talk about the process – you focus on that continuous improvement, that daily improvement, that daily excellence and over time those small chunks will incrementally lead to gains and that’s kind of what Bill talked about, be more process driven than with results because inevitably and eventually that will be what ends up getting the results.”

    (On coming from the Walsh background and whether he would consider himself a Walsh guy)
    “Just based on my grandfather’s experience. I’ve never even met Bill, I’ve never had any interaction with Bill. But my first experience in coaching was working for Coach Gruden and he’s been around Coach Walsh and things like that, so I think it goes back to Bill Walsh. But I would say the people that have been most influential and instrumental in my development so far as a coach have been Jon (former NFL Head Coach) and Jay Gruden (Redskins Head Coach), Bruce Allen (Redskins President) in a different non-coaching role, Mike Shanahan (former NFL Head Coach), worked for Jim Haslett (former NFL Head Coach). I’ve been around a lot of great guys. All of those people are willing to invest and kind of help me grow.”

    (On if he’s reached out to Ravens Head Coach John Harbaugh with him also being a Miami University (Ohio) alum)

    “I saw John the other day, and got a chance to connect with him and have always had a respect for him just watching him from afar. It was funny, I ran into him as I was checking into the hotel and one of the questions that they were asking about with the combine and different things like that, was if all the coaches ran a 40-yard-dash, who would win. A lot of the guys said the younger coach. But he and I played at Miami University (Ohio) and he said ‘I think I would take him. He was a probably a possession receiver at Miami University (Ohio) and I was a corner, so I’ll take him’ (laughs). He’s a great guy. I will definitely reach out to him moving forward.”

    (On if he ever ran into Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger at Miami University (Ohio))

    “Right when Ben ended up leaving, it coincided with the next year then I came in, so we were never there at the same time. But he came back a couple times. He was honored at some of the games, so you got a chance to meet him. What he did – especially when you watch some of the tape – they finished 10th in the country the year that I committed there, they had a 13-game winning streak, being able to put them on the map. I know they had a bunch of nationally televised games where they did a great job that year and that was big reason why you end up going there and that appeal.”

    (On if he ever read up on Miami University (Ohio) coach Paul Brown)

    “It’s funny that you mention that. I read about Paul Brown, just with his background with Bill. From that book that I was just talking about, he references Paul quite often and talks about how he was so influential in a lot of Bill’s core beliefs. That’s kind of the way that I’ve been exposed to Coach Brown. But what a great job he did and why he’s respected the way that he is.”

    (On his first impressions when he first sat down with Jared Goff)

    “The first impressions are this is a guy that is motivated to respond in year two I think he has a little bit more fire then a lot of people realize, where he kind of has that laid back Cali swag, but then when you sit down and you talk to him he’s a fiery guy and he’s serious about football – really willing to learn, really a likable guy. Easy to talk to and I’m looking forward to getting to know him better moving forward.”

    (On why he thinks Jared will respond well in year two and what he sees in him)

    “I think when you talk to him about the way he received last year and the fire and the passion that he talks about and why he’s challenged to respond. What I really like about him is when you talk about – it’s easy when things don’t go well, to try to deflect and put the blame elsewhere and all he did was take the accountability – here’s what I have to do a better job with moving forward, here’s some of the challenges. That’s what you like and that’s what you want from your leader.”

    (On if he’s found a place to live)

    “I have. This was the first exposure to L.A. – it’s all over TMZ yesterday. I closed on a place earlier this week. My girlfriend, she’s on social media, I’m not and she says, ‘You know, it’s everywhere. Where we’re living’ and all that stuff. I did. I’m going to be living in Encino, which I’m really excited about that. It’ll probably be a month until I get in it, because my mom’s an interior designer, so she’s going to do a bunch of different things and spend a bunch of my money (laughs).”

    (On if he’s going to pay his mom)

    “It’s funny, because she’s done the last two places that I’ve lived and she has a great feel for it. Then she gives you the bill and you say, ‘what kind of deal is this for your son?’ She says, ‘This is the (family) discount.’ I said ‘Geeze mom, you got pretty expensive.’”

    (On L.A. being such a busy town)

    “It’s unique. What I didn’t realize, is getting out to L.A. you realize how normal it is, especially if you go eat or have dinner in West Hollywood, everybody is somebody out there. Two of the first three weekends I’m out there are the Oscars and the Grammys. We were joking around with a girl that works in our business office, (Manager of Business and Executive Operations) Sophie (Luoto), she’s great. She’s from the L.A. area and she is kind of able to set it up and she has a feel for some of the restaurants. And I called her, I want to say it was Oscar weekend, and I said can we get into Catch L.A. with like a group of 10 and she found a way to get it done. Which is kind of a popular deal, but she told (Senior Assistant) Tony Pastoors, ‘We have to tell coach that he has to give me a little more advanced notice, when it’s Oscar and Grammy weekend. He has to get to know the social calendar a little bit better around here too.’ (laughs)”

    (On when he first met Mike Tomlin and how he has helped him)

    “I first met Mike a couple years ago through (current Falcons Assistant Head Coach) Raheem Morris. Raheem is a guy that I was able to establish a relationship with, I know Mike was kind of his mentor and really instrumental and influential in his career. One of the things I’ve always appreciated about Mike, just watching him from afar, is he’s got a presence and a charisma about himself where you always feel Mike Tomlin in a room. I haven’t had a chance to spend a whole lot of time one-on-one, but in the times that you have, you always walk away impressed. He seems like he never has a bad day. He has a great way about himself, just dealing with people. And that’s something that I want to try to mimic and emulate. I think Coach Gruden was very similar in that regard, where they’re two big personalities that you always felt and I thought they did a great job with their motivation. What Mike’s been is just a great influence in terms of that advice for how to deal with a team, how to handle adversity, always making sure that you have a message but you stay true to yourself, who you are and what your core beliefs are. I can’t tell you how much respect I have for Mike and I’ll continue to try to bother him. We don’t play them this year, so hopefully he’ll be a little more willing to share.”

    (On if it’s a sharing experience when he talks to Tomlin or if it is mostly him asking questions)

    “It hasn’t been a lot of that. I think he’s probably always just taking in and having that dialogue. Mike’s a guy that, in our interactions, it’s been more conversational than anything. I’m sure that he’s observing and taking stuff in, but I’m the one that’s asking questions. You have your notes and you want to make sure that you get an opportunity to get everything in and take it all in when he’s willing to sit down and talk to you.”

    (On when becoming a head coach started being on his radar)

    “I think, when you get into coaching, it’s always a goal. I’ve always been intrigued with leading, teaching and motivating. Whether you’re an assistant coach, whether you’re a coordinator, whether you’re a head coach, I think inevitably, it’s all-encompassing. That natural progression kind of takes care of itself. I’ve always learned that if you try to focus on your job and do it to the best of your ability, then eventually those next steps will come if it’s the right situation and you do a good enough job. That’s why you feel good about coming from Washington, where Jay enables you and empowers you to do a lot of the different things – where you’re addressing the unit, you’re making some of the decisions. Then, you look at it now where you’re doing it with the entire team. It’s an exciting challenge and it’s something that we’ll all do together. It’s not just about me, it’s about us, collectively, doing it as a group.”

    (On when becoming a head coach this year was becoming more serious to him)

    “I think as soon as we lost to the Giants, (McVay’s agent) Bob LaMonte calls me and says, ‘The L.A. Rams and 49ers want to talk to you.’ I said, ‘Oh my God, you have to be kidding me.’ I’m still getting over not getting that thing done on that Sunday afternoon. But that was immediately when it started. You always try to set your goals in alignment and you want to make sure that, when the opportunity presents itself, you’re ready to attack it and go compete for the job. That was what was exciting about it, when you get into it, even getting on board with Bob, he’s got a great program where they kind of, in essence, help prepare you for these interviews. That’s something that goes back to when you’re on the radar. Where you might potentially get those opportunities so when you go into it, you expect to compete for the job. You don’t want anything given to you. But what I thought was unique about it, what was pretty cool and flattering was I don’t think a lot of people expected us to be sitting in this situation. But, you go there, you present a vision and you know that it’s about a lot more than just you, and I think you feel good about that. And that’s why I was excited about being able to earn this job.”

    (On the vision he presented to the Rams)

    “I think you’ve got a vision for the team and then you have a vision for each individual player within the framework of the team. We talk about this a lot, we’re trying to be a culture of we, not me. It’s always about the team and really, what’s going to help us establish that is our character and our communication. That’s football character and kind of that mental make-up. Your understanding of different things, but you want players that are coachable, that are dependable, that are accountable, they’re great teammates. And then that communication, I think, is a quality trademark of any organization that is a quality organization. When you look at what we want our individual players to represent from that make-up, we’re looking for mentally and physically tough players who are smart and love to compete. When you say smart, you talk about situational awareness, guys that are instinctual, that are smart football players. I’m not the smartest guy, but I’d like to think you have a little bit of awareness and an understanding about the game. I’m looking for good football players that get situations and that’s our job to be able to teach that and we want to make sure that we’re doing to the little things the right way. It was those things, kind of sharing on terms of how we saw their personnel, how you develop a quarterback. And being around the guy that I was in Washington, his success definitely helps get you into some of these situations. It felt more like a conversation than an interview, and that was why I was so excited to be a part of this with Kevin and Les.”

    (On where he picks up with Jared Goff)

    “You start from scratch. With him, the first thing is being able to learn our verbiage, how to call a play, get in and out of the huddle and understand the intent of the play, the mechanics, what are the problems with it. It’s a daily process and it’s very important for us to incrementally give him our offense and help him learn that. Once we get out on to the grass, I think we’ll have a much better idea. It’s one thing to sit in the meeting room, talk about it, then him being able to regurgitate that information. It’s a totally different thing when you’re accepting a snap, you’re having to decipher a coverage and how that dictates and determines where I’m going to go, what’s the timing and rhythm. Once you get on to the grass, that’s really where we’ll start to see how much he’s able to retain. Then based on the more that he can handle, the more we’ll give him. But it’s starting from ground one. And that’s really for everybody when you’re teaching them a system.”

    (On the influence that his grandfather, John McVay, has had on him and if they have stayed in contact)

    “I’m in contact with him pretty frequently. He’s had a huge influence. I think he’s really been such a huge example of why I was fortunate enough to get into this business right away. Especially coming here this week, you realize how many different people he’s touched, what a small circle of people it is in this league. He’s been a huge influence and a huge mentor of mine. I’ll continue to go back to this – I know, I’m not naïve to think that I wasn’t fortunate to get in when I did and a lot of that is because of his reputation and what he was able to accomplish in this league, doing things the right way.”

    (On if he has remained in contact with his grandfather)

    “Oh yeah, I’ve remained in contact with him. He lives, actually, off Lake Folsom in the Sacramento area. Once we get through the offseason program, I’ll zip up and see him this offseason. But, I talk to him all the time.”

    (On how much he takes from other coaches he’s been with)

    “I think you’re a product of your experiences and what you’ve been exposed to. Fortunately for me, I’ve seen it done the right way from a lot of great coaches. So, I think what you’re always doing is you’re kind of pulling, and saying this is something that I like, but you also want to make it true to what we’re trying to do in L.A.. Being around guys like Jon Gruden, Jay Gruden, Mike Shanahan, when you see the way they lead, the way that they teach, the way that they handle adversity or certain things, problems that inevitably will come up. You always want to try to incorporate that and that’s why this week is such a great opportunity because guys have been so willing to share. How do you handle your first team meeting, how do you deal with players that are late? All the different things that come up and being around people that are willing to share, you definitely pull that and you include it in kind of the way that we’ll do things in L.A.”

    (On what his grandfather has shared with him)

    “The one thing that he told me is the salaries are a lot different. Really, I think coaching is coaching. I think a lot of the ways you communicate with technology and kind of the ways that we’re able to put together a game plan has shaped the way you go about it, and how much more efficient we can be now. I think it all goes back to building relationships with these players, and then being sound and good communicators. I think that’s been something that’s always been true. You look at any great coach, I will be willing to bet that they all probably have that similar trait and characteristic. I think whether it’s 1978, 1958, 2017 – those things that you value and you want to embody as a good leader and as a great coach, will remain the same.”

    (On the adversity his grandfather faced)

    “We’ve absolutely talked about it. I think what you realize is that adversity is inevitably in this game. In some form or fashion, it’s going to come up. I think how you handle that and how you respond is really what ends up determining what type of leader and what type of person you are. I think you look at the way my grandfather was able to respond from that tough experience says a lot about him. Where you kind of don’t blink. You show me a successful person, you show me a great leader, they’ve been through some adversity and they’ve responded in a way that you want to show that mental toughness, that resilient mindset. I think that’s what he did.”

    (On if he has spoken with former NFL Head Coach Herm Edwards)

    “You know, I haven’t. But when I do come across Coach Edwards, I’m going to say, ‘You caused my family a lot of stress,’ (laughs).”

    (On TE Tyler Higbee’s role in the offense)

    “I think that’s something that we’re going to continue to evaluate and I’ll have a better feel for it once we get on the grass. But he is a guy that I really liked coming out of college – I think he’s got a natural feel on the pass game. A good feel for how to work those seams, he has a big catch radius. Talking to (General Manager) Les (Snead) about some of the things that he did, especially early in camp, gets you excited to be around him. But how we’ll utilize him will be predicated on, kind of, what we feel like his best strengths are. He’s going to be different than (Washington TEs) Jordan Reed and Vernon Davis. We have to find a way to fit our stuff to Tyler Higbee and make sure we’re accentuating his skillset – that’s something that’s going to be evaluated once we get into the field in Phase Two and Phase Three (of the offseason program). But he is a guy that we’re excited to work with and just getting around him, he’s got a nice way about himself. Looking forward to seeing how he competes when we get on the grass.”

    (On if he has spoken with former Rams RB Eric Dickerson)

    “I have, actually right when I got hired. Eric’s been great. I talked to him the day that I got hired and I’ve run into him a couples times since. I saw him at the Super Bowl, saw him at the Combine as well. He’s a guy that will be around. You look at what he was able to accomplish as a player in his career – and I think what’s important is there are so many great players that were a part of this organization and you want those guys around. You want winners around, they know what it looks like. Marshall Faulk, Kurt Warner, Torry Holt, Isaac Bruce – D’Marco Farr is still present. I think being able to have those guys around, where your players can see. And we were talking about it earlier, there’s a difference when a guy has done it, he’s been in that role when he’s talking to a Todd Gurley and a (RB) Lance Dunbar, kind of what it looks like. I have talked to Eric and he’s a guy that I’m looking forward to getting to know a little bit better, as well.”

    (On why he thinks some coaches are reticent to bring in former players)

    “I don’t know. I can just say this, the guys that I’ve been around have always embraced and appreciated that and that’s something that we’ll try to do in L.A.”

    (On if Jay Gruden has spoken with him about Gruden’s first season in the NFL)

    “Oh yeah, we talked about that all the time. I think, especially when you look at his first year going into a lockout – but he talked about the challenges, the players, how much respect he had for (Bengals President) Mr. (Mike) Brown and (Bengals Head Coach) Marvin (Lewis) and the way that they were able to help, kind of, get him the opportunity where he’s in Washington now. He got a really good feel and understanding for a lot of the coaches that are there. But he talks about it all the time because you are a product of your experiences and some of the things that you’ve been a part of. I know that was a great experience for him and he goes there for three years, does an excellent job – that’s why he’s sitting as the Head Coach in Washington.”

    (On if learning from Jay Gruden’s time in Cincinnati was helpful)

    “It was. And I think what was so special about it is he gets (Bengals QB) Andy (Dalton) as a rookie (Bengals WR) A.J. (Green) as a rookie – they’ve got those first two picks – and you really look at what they were able to do as a team. And (current Vikings Head Coach and former Bengals defensive coordinator Mike) Zimmer did such a great job on the defense. I want to say they went 9-7 and got in as a wild card. But to be able to do that is a real credit to Jay and Marvin and that entire staff.”

    (On how big it was to get a veteran player like T Andrew Whitworth on the line to help develop continuity)

    “Huge. We’re a young team, especially on the offensive side of the ball. Getting a guy that’s done it at a high level for a long time, that kind of embodies what you’re looking for from a leader. The way that he handles himself on the field and his ability to communicate with his teammates. I think that was a really big part of why we wanted to get him on board with us – for what he can represent as a player, but also in the locker room as a leader, just some of those intangibles that he brings to our organization.”

    (On if Whitworth mentioned being older than him)

    “No, he didn’t, but I did. I said, ‘Now, you’re the only guy that’s older than me.’ But he’s still playing at a high level. He takes great care of himself and we’re hopeful that he’ll be able to continue do that for a couple more years moving forward.”

    (On whether he feels that he has enough playmakers on offense to do what he wants to do conceptually)

    “I think one of the things that you talk about is that you can never have enough playmakers. We’ve got some guys that we think are playmakers, but you can never have enough of those guys. I was fortunate in Washington to be a part of an offense that had a handful of guys – from the receivers, tight end and the running back room. Had some quarterbacks that knew how to distribute the ball, kind of be a point guard, where they’re figuring out a way to get a bunch of different guys involved and that’s what we’ll strive to do here. I think you always want to make sure that you’re aware of that. We have a couple guys that we feel like can do that right now. But that’s definitely something where you can’t have enough of those guys. You feel fortunate that in the draft, I think there’s a lot of depth at that receiver, that tight end spot. Les (Snead) has done a great job of filling me in – he’s a little bit further along, in terms of his evaluation of where those guys are at and kind of how that might affect what we’ll do with those eight picks that we have.”

    (On the process of getting to know a quarterback’s likes and dislikes in terms of play calling and how long it takes)

    “It’s definitely a process that you have to be patient with. I think a lot of it is predicated on the player and it’s always about the player. I think that when you look back to the rapport and the relationships that you’re able to develop with the players you have in Washington and we were there together for a good amount of time. But I think it takes communication both ways. The players have to able to articulate that to you. I’m expecting Jared (Goff) and Sean (Mannion), when we’re calling a play – and that thing cuts off at 15 seconds, if we get it in early enough – are you a guy that wants information when you’re at the line of scrimmage or would you would you say, ‘Give me the play and just stop.’ Those are the types of things that are ongoing. It’s just like anything else, it takes time to build relationships and that’s what it will do. It will be a daily approach, but our ability to have that open communication can expedite that process.”

    (On how long it will take for that to happen)

    “I would say, really, you go through the game experiences and try to mimic that in practice with the way that you set up certain situations and team periods. I think being able to get on the grass, we’ll probably have a better feel going through the offseason program, where you’ve got a voluntary minicamp, you’ve got your 10 OTAs and then you’ve got your mandatory minicamps. After that, I think I’ll have a much better idea of what we’re going into, how these guys like it and what they feel most comfortable with, with regards to that process.”

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    As youngest head coach, Sean McVay plans to earn players’ respect

    Michael David Smith

    As youngest head coach, Sean McVay plans to earn players’ respect

    New Rams coach Sean McVay is only 30 years old, an age his players may associate more with a teammate than with a head coach. But McVay isn’t worried about whether players will listen to a coach who’s not much older (or maybe even a little younger) than they are.

    McVay said today on PFT Live that he thinks his hard work will earn the respect of players.

    “I think that respect will be earned over time,” McVay said. “It’s not something that comes in one day, I think it’s something that will be earned over time.”

    McVay said that he and his coaching staff will make the players better, and that’s what players respond to.

    “I think the biggest thing is letting these players see by our preparation, our process, day in and day out, how serious we are about our football and how that can lead to us winning games,” McVay said. “It’s about helping these players reach their highest potential, that plan, that process, the way we coach, lead, teach and motivate on a day-in, day-out basis, I think our players will feel.”

    That’s ultimately what a coach is judged on: If McVay wins, people will quickly forget that he’s the youngest coach in the NFL.

    in reply to: Joyner to FS? #66814
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    I think some folks underestimate Joyner.

    IMO the Rams D was not the same whenever he wasn’t in there last year.

    Even when he missed a play or 2 because of concussion protocol, you could see the difference. They would not be as effective.

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    alyoshamucci wrote:

    If Tru is traded, I will be adding a CB early.

    2) Engram … the only gripe I’m hearing is that there are thoughts that he may not be there. Until I get more mocks showing me he won’t Im going to leave him here. Gerald Everett would be my backup and he’d be a 1b to Engram’s 1a.

    3) WR … Juju/Kupp/Godwin/Z Jones/Chad Hansen … one will be there. One will slide. There’s too much talent elsewhere and those guys are not top ALL 50 talents. Not in this draft anyway. I have been leaning away from WR this early, but my feel is that the brass will not be. I have Josh Reynolds, Taywan Taylor, Darboh, and Ardarius Stewart a half shade below these guys and personally I’d prefer to get value later … but these kids all have something special about them and that half shade may matter.

    4) C Pocic or Elflein … I prefer Elflein but he may be gone.

    4) CB Brendan Langley … I like him for development and taking over for Tru … he’s got skills just needs high speed reps.

    5) OLB Vince Beigel … Im going to consistently draft him in this area … he reminds me of Barwin.

    6) ILB Jayon Brown / Reeves Maybin smaller ILBs with great range.

    6) Josh Tupuo … NT … a quick kid for being a big man. True Nose tackles are worth investing in.

    7) RB Justin Davis USC … 6-1 208 and ran a 4.48 … was not expecting that. I need a big backup to Gurley. I’d prefer Brian Hill but I have him gone in the 4th or 5th.

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    from Which free-agent move in the division surprised you the most?

    http://www.espn.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/234116/andrew-whitworth-robert-woods-surprising-additions-to-nfc-west

    Nick Wagoner, San Francisco 49ers: The Rams’ heavy investment in offensive tackle Andrew Whitworth at the age of 35. It’s not that the Rams didn’t desperately need to upgrade at left tackle or that Whitworth isn’t worth the money, especially if he can at least help give the Rams a fair and real chance to evaluate quarterback Jared Goff. It’s surprising because it feels like a move a contending team would make that could help put it over the top, rather than a move a rebuilding team like the Rams would make while transitioning to a new coaching staff. It’s as surprising that Whitworth didn’t seek to land with a team that could give him a chance at a championship before he retires.

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    Despite need at safety, Rams eye weapons for Jared Goff in draft

    By Alden Gonzalez

    http://www.espn.com/blog/los-angeles-rams/post/_/id/33392/rams-will-enter-draft-seeking-more-weapons-for-jared-goff

    PHOENIX — The Los Angeles Rams still have a need at safety, but they may just fill it internally.

    Lamarcus Joyner, who solidified himself as a standout slot corner last year, is a real option to convert to free safety, with Maurice Alexander shifting over to strong safety to replace free agent T.J. McDonald. Under that scenario, Joyner could play safety when the Rams run a 3-4 set under new defensive coordinator Wade Phillips, then perhaps reclaim his role as a slot corner on nickel downs.

    It would allow the Rams to play Joyner on every snap — and it could free them up to continue to attack the offense through the draft.

    After taking Jared Goff first overall, the Rams went heavy on receivers and tight ends last year.

    Tyler Higbee and Pharoh Cooper were taken in the fourth round, then Temarrick Hemingway and Mike Thomas followed in the sixth. But the Rams still have holes on offense. They released veteran tight end Lance Kendricks, leaving Higbee as their primary pass-catching tight end. And though they signed Robert Woods, they also lost receivers Kenny Britt and Brian Quick from a unit that was relatively thin to begin with.

    Rams general manager Les Snead doesn’t feel comfortable speaking publicly about the strengths of particular drafts, but did acknowledge that this year’s pool is “definitely deep at a few positions that we need,” a nod to tight ends and wide receivers.

    “In college football they’re throwing the ball,” Snead said, “so you always have a lot of players to pick from.”

    Among the receivers linked to the Rams in various mock drafts are John Ross (Washington), Zay Jones (East Carolina), JuJu Smith-Schuster (USC), Dede Westbrook (Oklahoma) and Chad Hansen (Cal). Tight ends like Evan Engram (Mississippi) and Gerald Everett (South Alabama) have also come up. The Rams gave up their first-round pick in last year’s trade with the Titans, which allowed them to move up from 15 to select Goff, and enter the draft with only one selection among the first 68. They’re hopeful that this year’s pool is deep enough to offset some of that.

    “Based on what we did last year with the QB, you knew this year you were going to be limited in the draft,” Snead said in an interview with ESPN from the owners meetings on Monday. “Now, that was a little bit of the strategy. We let some free agents out the door and we didn’t re-sign any. So, we knew we would probably be rewarded with the compensatory program that’s going to replenish some of those picks. We knew it was going to be limited, but we do think that it’s a deep enough draft where you can get good football players across the board.”

    The Rams have eight picks, five of which will come within the third and sixth round. Their first selection is 37th overall, the fifth pick of the second round. And though Snead stressed that the Rams will draft the best player available, his target seems clear. He needs more weapons for Goff, but he also wants players who can complement the ones he already has on his roster.

    The Rams lack size at receiver, which is why Smith-Schuster and Jones could make sense.

    They also lack a true vertical threat, which makes Ross, who ran a head-turning 4.22 40-yard dash, very appealing.

    “Each of those receivers, however we get this thing done, has a role,” Snead said, speaking in generalities. “Their body types, their physical traits, all those things, fit right into a perfect puzzle, and if those things work in sync together, we’re able to spread the ball around. If you take Sean McVay’s offense in Washington, if you look at it, what they did do was spread the ball around.”

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    BENOIT: The rest of the receiving corps is comprised of backups.

    I would not be surprised that among the newcomers–Cooper, Thomas, Spruce–there’s at least one serviceable guy who can play this year.

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    Andy Benoit‏ @Andy_Benoit
    Benefit of playing same scheme each year like #Seahawks do is you’re les reliant on finding FAs because its easier to insert young rookies.

    Andy Benoit @Andy_Benoit
    When you have vets who are experienced w/ the new system you’re installing, those vets can help the other players at their position.

    Andy Benoit @Andy_Benoit
    Calais Campbell gave #AZCardinals invaluable flexibility along DL. Can’t replace a guy like that.

    Andy Benoit @Andy_Benoit
    It’s been interesting to see #Rams part with DE’s Sims and Hayes. They provided valuable depth along the D-line.

    Andy Benoit @Andy_Benoit
    An improved OL should help Todd Gurley, but Gurley also must be a LOT more decisive as a ballcarrier than he was in 2016.

    Andy Benoit @Andy_Benoit
    #Rams system is all about route combinations. So getting WRs not enough, have to get the right TYPE of receivers.

    Andy Benoit @Andy_Benoit
    #Rams still need significant help at WR. Woods an upgrade over Britt (regardless what stats say) but at least 2 more WRs needed.

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    Well what we HAD was a young line picked by different coaches for a different system.

    So. Changes.

    I hope what comes out of it is an Alex Boone type guard in Hav.

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    No cheating – IOW don’t google it or any portion of it…

    Ll

    That;s easy, those are helmet logos from the old NFL Ancient Greeks division.

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    will it affect them negatively or not at all?

    Historically, the Raiders were the only team to win after a move.

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    so the rams think a move to rt will be easier than a move to guard. interesting.

    I think it’s a Kromer thing. He has traditionally put a lot of emphasis on guard over tackle, and he has used big tackle converts at guard before.

    It just seems he would want the smoother, more developed player at guard.

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    RANKING THE 15 BEST WIDE RECEIVER DRAFT PROSPECTS OF 2017

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/draft-ranking-the-15-best-wide-receiver-draft-prospects-of-2017/

    This year’s class of wide receivers has a little bit of everything. While there are three that really stand out ahead of the pack, there are a ton of interesting prospects in the next tier with high potential. A team looking for a slot receiver will have just as much talent to choose from as a team looking for a big outside threat. The following list is PFF’s current ranking of the top 15 wide receiver prospects, but this list is ever-evolving. As we review more prospects and have more internal discussions about them, this list will likely change multiple times as we approach the NFL draft.

    Rankings

    1. Mike Williams, Clemson

    Williams capped off an impressive season with a performance for the ages in the National Championship game, propelling Clemson to the title. That game looked to be a sign of just what kind of weapon Williams could be at the next level. Nobody in this class can win at the catch point better than Williams can. He’s big and strong, has a massive catch radius and really strong hands. All of that combined means that a quarterback needs to just get the ball in his area, and Williams will have a good shot of hauling it in. His 3.35 yards-per-route-run average in 2016 ranked inside the top 10 among all receivers. His lack of high-end speed may be an issue for some teams, but he’s so good at the catch point that it might not matter. Williams should be able to step onto the field in the NFL and contribute instantly as a receiver that you can just throw the ball near and rely on him to make a big play.

    2. Corey Davis, Western Michigan

    Davis has been phenomenally productive over his career at Western Michigan, and will now look to translate that strong play to the NFL. In the three years we’ve graded college football, Davis has finished as a top-10 receiver in every single year. He isn’t the biggest receiver, or the fastest, but he’s one of the most impressive ones because of his fantastic route-running ability and strong hands. Davis does all the little things you want a receiver to do, whether it’s adjusting his routes based on the coverage, using his hands to subtly create separation, or knowing when a big hit is coming and positioning himself to absorb it. While his lack of size and speed may prevent him from being a No. 1 option right away in the NFL, he can instantly contribute as a second option for a team and could very well develop into a high-level No. 1 receiver.

    3. John Ross, Washington

    After a combine in which he set the record for fastest 40-yard dash (4.22 seconds), there may not be a more talked-about receiver than Ross. When you watch him on tape, the pure speed is instantly evident. Ross can absolutely blow by any corner that stands across from him. But he’s more than just a one-speed deep threat. He has shown he can run both short and intermediate routes, and run them well. Ross makes good, quick breaks and doesn’t slow down or give them away with movement. He has strong hands and rarely drops the ball. Once the ball is in his hands, he can see the field very well and can make defenders miss. The biggest knock on him is his size (5-foot-11, 188 pounds) and an injury history that covers both knees. If he can stay healthy against NFL-sized players, Ross could develop into a true number one option fairly quickly.

    4. Dede Westbrook, Oklahoma

    Westbrook was one of if not the most productive receiver in college football last season, winning the Biletnikoff Award as well as getting an invite to the Heisman Trophy ceremony as a nominee. While it’s easy to dismiss Westbrook as a product of the wide-open Big 12 offense of Oklahoma, he’s much more than that. Westbrook is more than just fast, he’s incredibly quick out of his breaks and knows how to run every route. He knows how to set up routes with double moves and head fakes, and once he has a step on a defender they probably aren’t catching him. He’s got great hands, and is very impressive after the catch. While on tape he seems to play bigger than he is, his size may force him into the slot early in his NFL career. But watching him play outside, he definitely has the potential to move out there in the future.

    5. Zay Jones, East Carolina

    Jones has become the epitome of a sure-handed underneath receiver over the past couple years. While the East Carolina wide receiver has amassed an incredible 462 targets over the past three years, he dropped only 17 of his 360 catchable targets. Still, due to coming from a small school and having played against lesser competition, Jones was flying under the radar for quite a while and people have really started talking about him mainly because he surpassed expectations with an impressive week at the Senior Bowl. Although Jones’ play is not necessarily extremely eye-catching, but he can be one of the most useful and reliable members of an offense. Overall, Jones’ production speaks for itself and he could become immensely useful for teams in moving the chains in an unspectacular way.

    6. JuJu Smith- Schuster, USC

    Smith-Schuster seemed to have lost some momentum in the draft process after a down year production-wise compared to 2015, but don’t let that fool you. Smith-Schuster is a strong, physical receiver who knows how to use his body to make catches. He’s not the fastest or quickest receiver by any means, but he does run some routes well enough to get open. Once the ball is in his hands he’s hard to bring down, especially by smaller secondary defenders. Smith-Schuster is the kind of guy who loves underthrown deep balls, because it allows him the chance to get under it and high point the ball over a defender. He still needs to get more consistent at those contested catch situations, but his size and hands should help him there. Smith-Schuster may never be more than a good second option receiver but in today’s pass-happy NFL, that is something a lot of teams should covet.

    7. Cooper Kupp, Eastern Washington

    One of the most talked-about names in this draft class is Kupp, from FCS school Eastern Washington. While it is true that Kupp dominated teams against which he was clearly athletically superior and far more talented, Kupp cannot be overlooked in this class. He’s an incredibly smart receiver and knows how to break off or adjust his routes depending on what coverage he’s against. He’s not the fastest out there but he uses very good route-running in order to create space to catch the ball with very strong hands. Kupp will be pigeonholed as a slot receiver by many, but he has the size and skills to play outside as well. He averaged 5.11 yards per route run as an outside receiver last season. Kupp is another guy that likely will never be a true No. 1 receiver, but he has the tools and skills to be an effective NFL starter for many years to come.

    8. Carlos Henderson, Louisiana Tech

    Probably the most exciting college tape of this receiving class belonged to Henderson. In 2016 for Louisiana Tech he forced an insane 48 missed tackles, nearly double the second-most at the position. The one thing that stands out over everything that Henderson does is his vision. Nobody in this class is better with the ball in his hands. Henderson at times looked like he was three steps ahead of the defense, making the exact right cut, hesitation, fake, etc., in order to force a missed tackle or break a small pass into a huge gain. Henderson is raw as a receiver, running very few routes for LA Tech’s offense and showing very little in terms of catching contested passes. But he is a guy you want on your team, simply to get him the ball and let him make plays. If he can develop as a receiver, he has the potential to be one of the best receivers to come out of this class.

    9. Taywan Taylor, Western Kentucky

    Even though some expected Taylor’s production to drop off with the departure of Western Kentucky quarterback Brandon Doughty to the NFL, the wideout still had more than 1,700 receiving yards and 17 touchdowns in 2016. Furthermore, Taylor remained the same type of deep threat last season as he led the wide receiver position by a significant margin with his 948 receiving yards on passes that traveled 20 yards or more in the air and was tied with teammate Nicholas Norris for the most touchdown receptions on such passes. In addition, nearly one-third of Taylor’s targets came on post and go routes, which signify his usage in Western Kentucky’s offense and how his speed was put to use by the Hilltoppers. While Taylor may not be as sophisticated route-runner as some others in this year’s class, his speed and ability to take the top off defenses will help him find his way on to the field in the NFL.

    10. Mack Hollins, North Carolina

    Hollins is a sleeper prospect here with not a lot of college production to back him up. But he’s ranked this high because of what he can do when he’s on the field. At 6-4 and 221 pounds, Hollins is one of the biggest receivers in the class. But he also has phenomenal straightaway speed. He effortlessly blew by defenders throughout his career, evidenced by his 20 career touchdowns on just 71 receptions. Hollins was also a workhorse on special teams, a captain who played on every single unit. There are certainly issues with Hollins, such as a very limited route tree and the mystery about lack of production for a receiver with his tools. But watching his tape you can see that Hollins can play. With the natural size and speed he has, if Hollins can develop his route-running and show the ability to compete in contested catch situations, it’s not such a crazy stretch to say that Hollins has No. 1 receiver potential.

    11. Chad Hansen, California

    Hansen was never considered to be an elite or even a much above-average college wide receiver, yet whenever the ball went his way, he kept making plays for Cal in 2016. Even though Hansen does not necessarily have the measurables (6-2, 202 pounds) and ran a 40-yard dash of just 4.53 seconds, he excelled at catching deep passes and winning contested catches last year. Perhaps most impressively, the wide receiver did not drop any of his 16 deep targets at Cal. The fact that he can high-point passes and go up and outmuscle defensive backs for the ball makes him very effective in coming down with contested catches in close coverage. The biggest knock on Hansen is how he was used and the lack of experience he has running different type of routes as he lined up almost exclusively on the right side and 73.6 percent of his targets came on screens, hitches and go routes.

    12. Chris Godwin, Penn State

    Godwin’s is a name people have been talking about all draft season as a very intriguing prospect. He was a great deep threat for Penn State mainly because of his ability to win at the catch point. He uses his body well to keep defenders off of him and can high point the ball. He’s a solid route-runner with tools to develop further. One of his attributes that NFL teams will like most is his tenacious run-blocking. Godwin was our 10th-highest-graded run-blocker among all college receivers last season. While there are some issues, such as his speed sometimes not showing up on tape and lack of open-field explosiveness, Godwin remains a solid prospect. He should find a role with the team that drafts him and one day may work himself into a consistent role as an intermediate/deep receiving threat.

    13. ArDarius Stewart, Alabama

    Another under-the-radar prospect in this draft is Alabama’s Stewart. He never really had the production level of the top receivers, but that doesn’t mean he isn’t skilled. Stewart is a guy who should be able to jump right in and contribute in some way as an NFL receiver. Stewart has solid speed and acceleration, wasting no time in getting up to top speed. His after-the-catch ability is among the best in this class, and the reason that Alabama used him on jet sweeps as often as they did. Stewart knows how to read zones and is very good at finding holes in them for his quarterback to make a big throw. One issue with Stewart is that he has played almost exclusively against zone defenses, and there’s reason to think he’ll struggle early on against man coverage. But he’s a great mid-round option for any receiver-needy team.

    14. Josh Reynolds, Texas A&M

    For a team needing a deep-threat receiver, Reynolds might be just the ticket. He’s a long strider and has good straightline speed that allows him to separate from defenders. He’s great at tracking the ball in the air and has very strong hands. Reynolds may be the best end-zone fade route-runner in this entire class. With his combination of size, hands, jumping, and timing, he should be able to fill that role immediately in the NFL. Because of his long stride speed he’ll likely never develop into much of an underneath receiver. But if he works on his route running and gets a little stronger, there’s a good chance he could develop a strong intermediate game to add to his already impressive deep threat ability.

    15. Isaiah Ford, Virginia Tech

    Ford is one of those guys who does a lot of things well but just doesn’t seem to have enough pieces to be a No. 1 receiver. What he is good at though is using his hands while running routes to create separation, which is good because he isn’t really fast enough to separate on speed alone. He’s not the strongest receiver but he has good body control that allows him to haul in contested catches even when the ball isn’t thrown perfectly. He also has a very good release off the line of scrimmage which helps him consistently beat press coverage. Ford may not have what it takes to be the No. 1 guy on a team, but he should be able to provide a very valuable complementary role wherever he ends up.

    Class superlatives

    Best hands: Zay Jones, Eastern Washington

    Jones had some issues with drops in 2014, but has really cleaned it up since then. In 2015 and 2016, Jones saw a combined 265 catchable passes and dropped just nine of them (3.40 drop rate). He also has an impressive catch radius for his size, and should be used as a consistent safety valve for any team’s quarterback in the NFL. Anyone who watched him at the Senior Bowl knows how impressive his hands are.

    Best route runner: Corey Davis, Western Michigan

    Davis isn’t the fastest guy on the field, but he gets separation by running very good routes. Whether it’s shallow, intermediate or deep, Davis knows how to run them all. But it’s not just the routes, but the small things he does while running them. Whether it’s head fakes, double moves, or subtle hand usage to get separation, Davis can do it all.

    Best in contested situations: Mike Williams, Clemson

    The first of three easy superlative selections, Williams is far and away the best contested catch receiver in this class. Just watch the national championship game for proof. His combination of size and strength are hard for any defender to overcome. He’s got strong hands and knows how to play the ball perfectly even when it’s not quite on target. He’s also shown he can take a hit and still hold on to the ball.

    Best deep speed: John Ross, Washington

    This was the easiest of all these superlatives. Everyone knew Ross was fast going into the NFL combine, but he shattered expectations by breaking the 40-yard dash record with a time of 4.22. That’s a speed that translates on tape, as he’ll be five steps past a defender seemingly only 20 yards downfield at times. The biggest thing to watch out for with Ross is that he doesn’t overrun his QB’s throw distance limit, which happened several times at Washington with Jake Browning.

    Best after the catch: Carlos Henderson, Louisiana Tech

    Any time you force 48 missed tackles as a receiver, heads should turn. That’s what Henderson did last year, showing incredible vision when it came to reading the field and knowing where to go. Henderson just seemed to be a step ahead of everyone else whenever he caught the ball. He’d make the perfect juke at the perfect time, power through a defender when he needed to. He just seemed to know exactly where to go and when to go there to maximize his yards after the catch.

    Best downfield threat: Dede Westbrook, Oklahoma

    This was a tough one, but Westbrook’s combination of skills and abilities put him at the top of this for us. He’s really fast and can burn guys deep when he needs to. But he’s also got quick cuts and incredible double moves, shaking some players out of their cleats at times last year. He plays bigger than he is and has shown the ability to go up and win tough contested catches. He may not be the fastest or the biggest and strongest, but his combination of everything makes him a huge downfield threat.

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    george kittle is intriguing.

    TE GEORGE KITTLE
    6’4″ 247LBS

    STRENGTHS Has broad shoulders and waist with a durable frame. Plays in pro-style attack and approaches blocking like an offensive lineman. Comes off the ball with good pad level and strikes with leverage and hands inside opponent’s frame. Blocks with good technique and has footwork to get to reach blocks and combos. Hands are confident and sure with just one drop against 48 catches. Able to make sudden body adjustments to poorly thrown balls. Flashes vertical speed to become a seam worker. Physical runner after the catch with more wiggle than you would expect.

    WEAKNESSES Patterns are inconsistent and he rarely tilts defenders at the top of his routes. Could generate better separation with improved route leverage. Route breaks can be too easy to decipher. Plays fast but seems to be missing separation burst coming out of his breaks. Needs to work back to the ball harder in space. Allows defenders a pathway to the throw rather than sealing them out of the passing lane. Has tendency to keep weight too far forward as run blocker creating opportunity for defender to pull him off-balance.

    BOTTOM LINE H-back type who lacks the desired size for in-line blocking but certainly has the technique and willingness to do it. He has good hands and flashes an ability to challenge as a pass catcher on all three levels. Kittle has the athleticism and blocking ability to become an effective move tight end if paired in the right system.

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/george-kittle?id=2558266

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    PFF: RANKING THE TOP 10 TE DRAFT PROSPECTS OF 2017

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/draft-ranking-the-top-10-te-draft-prospects/

    This tight end class has widely been considered the best group of sort-of-offensive-linemen-sort-of-receivers in quite some time, and rightfully so. Not only is this class stacked with some premier talent at the top of it, but it’s deep, littered with a slew of guys who should be able to contribute on Sundays for years to come, even if they aren’t getting the hype that the top of the class has received thus far. If you’re favorite team needs to improve at tight end, there’s potential for striking gold in this years NFL draft.

    Rankings

    1. O.J. Howard, Alabama

    O.J. Howard owns a unique blend of size and athleticism that is simply coveted in today’s NFL at the tight end position. Howard was PFF’s top-graded college tight end this past season, and it’s tough to find any major red flags in his game. He’s an athletic mismatch, capable of taking advantage of smaller defensive backs while having the speed and quickness to consistently separate from linebackers; he has sure hands, as he’s recorded just six total drops over the last three seasons. Howard has also graded positively as a run blocker in each of the last three seasons, including 2016 when he earned the highest run-blocking grade among tight ends.

    2. David Njoku, Miami

    If you’ve ever wished that your favorite team had Jordan Reed on it, now is your chance to get him, because David Njoku is his clone. Njoku isn’t overly elusive, but he’s extremely effective with the ball in his hands due to a combination of his size, top-end speed and a willingness to just punch a defense in the mouth. He averaged 11.2 yards after the catch in 2016, the most by all draft-eligible tight ends by over a yard. There are concerns with Njoku’s ability as a run blocker—he graded out in the middle of the pack, and can get too tall while moving laterally—but his receiving ability makes him a Day 1 starter and someone you want to feed the ball too often.

    3. Gerald Everett, South Alabama

    Everett is an athletic freak, earning “top performer” marks at the NFL Combine in the following events: bench press (22 reps, third-most among TEs), vertical jump (37.5 inches, third-best), broad jump (126 inches, fifth-best), 3-cone drill (6.99 seconds, fourth-best) and the 20-yard shuttle (4.33 seconds). That athleticism stands out on his tape, as well. He’s a nightmare to bring down with the ball in his hands—Everett forced 24 missed tackles in 2016, nine more than any other tight end—and his short-term burst, paired with his size and agility, make it quite difficult for linebackers to match up with him one-on-one. He shows no fear of contact when running routes over the middle and his balance is one of his greatest strengths. Everett showed multiple times on film that he’s capable of absorbing a blow before continuing on downfield. He’s raw—a classic case of played basketball in high school and got into football late—and his technique as both a route runner and run blocker need work, but if he’s able to clean that up with NFL coaching, he could be a Pro-Bowl-level tight end.

    4. George Kittle, Iowa

    While Kittle may not possess the size to become a reliable, in-line blocker, his sound technique, willingness to block and above-average athleticism make him a great No. 2 tight end in a “move” role. He’s one of the best in the class at blocking on the move, where he can use his athleticism and instincts to take advantage of angles and leverage. Kittle possesses the quickness and speed that should make him a versatile receiving threat capable of running routes from multiple positions, as well. At the very least, he’ll be a reliable underneath threat capable of gaining yards after the catch and moving the chains.

    5. Evan Engram, Ole Miss

    Engram is arguably the best tight end in this class out of the slot, and he’s a legitimate deep threat. Over the past two seasons on balls thrown at least 20 yards in the air, Engram has hauled in 10 of 17 attempts for 337 yards and three touchdowns. He’s quite athletic with great short-term burst; he moves fluidly and tracks the ball well downfield and is capable of winning hand fights to create late separation. Engram doesn’t offer much as a run blocker—his grading regressed from 2015 to 2016, and at times it looks like he just ducks his head and goes in blind when throwing a block—but there may not be a better tight end in this class at stretching the middle of the field.

    6. Bucky Hodges, Virginia Tech

    Standing at 6-foot-6 with out-of-the-stadium leaping ability, Hodges should step in and become a red-zone weapon for an NFL offense. He has minimal experience lining up with his hand in the dirt, and doesn’t offer a whole lot as a run blocker or pass protector, but he’s capable of lining up both in the slot and out wide, and he’s productive at all three levels. Hodges’ limited ability as a blocker, paired with his limited ability to create yards after the catch—he averaged just 3.0 yards after the catch last season—will likely cap his role within an NFL offense, but in terms of being a big-bodied target, he has a lot to offer.

    7. Jake Butt, Michigan

    Expecting Butt to be the complete package as an NFL tight end is probably asking too much. He has blatant limitations as a run blocker, both at the line of scrimmage and as he moves up the field. Butt isn’t overly-athletic, but he doesn’t mess around with the ball in his hands; he turns up field as soon as he’s secured the catch and looks to squeeze out as many yards as he can. Big plays are going to be few and far between for Butt in the NFL, and he isn’t going to have much success creating separation when manned up in coverage, but his penchant for finding the holes in zone coverages—especially in the short-to-intermediate range—and getting upfield will help an offense move the chains.

    8. Pharaoh Brown, Oregon

    If Brown didn’t suffer a gruesome leg injury back in 2014—he nearly needed the leg to be amputated, and it cost him the entire 2015 season and appeared to hamper him a bit in 2016—we would likely be looking at one of the top tight ends in the draft class. Brown still showed enough on the field in 2016, though, to prove that he may still have a spot on an NFL roster, even if he isn’t able to regain his explosiveness entirely. Brown’s 75.2 run-blocking grade and average of 1.89 yards per route run out of the slot both ranked within the top-10 of draft-eligible tight ends. His film showed a blocker who’s tough for smaller defenders to shed, while also possessing the size and lower body strength to anchor down and maintain blocks against defenders on the edge. Brown has inconsistent hands, and he’s not someone who’s currently going to stretch the field, but if he cleans up his technique as a blocker, he should have a role within an offense. If he can regain some of his explosiveness, he could be a steal.

    9. Jordan Leggett, Clemson

    Leggett has great size and is an above-average athlete, but needs to develop some strength and improve greatly as a run blocker—an area where he’s graded out miserably over his college career. Leggett was an effective target over the middle of the field for Clemson, especially in the short and intermediate ranges, as he has a nice feel for finding the soft space between linebackers in zone coverage. He’s slow in and out of his breaks, though, when running routes, and can be too easily redirected out of his lane. There’s potential with Leggett, but he’s going to need to show that he’s not a complete liability as a run blocker and is capable of beating man coverage if he’s going to make it onto the field.

    10. Michael Roberts, Toledo

    Talk about a nose for the end zone: Roberts led all college tight ends last season with 16 touchdowns, eight more than Evan Engram, who had the second-highest total. Our highest-ranked tight end this season in terms of overall grade, Roberts burst onto the scene in his senior year after clawing his way onto the team in Toledo back in 2013. Roberts also demonstrated that he was a capable blocker in 2016, both in the run game and in pass protection. He finished the season with the 15th highest run-blocking grade among the 78 qualified draft-eligible tight ends while allowing just one QB pressure on 62 pass-blocking snaps. Roberts is raw, but his journey up to this point has been rather impressive. Given the production he’s shown on the field, this is a player worth gambling on.

    Class superlatives

    Best hands: O.J. Howard, Alabama

    Not only has Howard dropped just six balls over the past three seasons combined, his catch radius is quite impressive. Howard is able to go down low and peel balls off the grass on one play and then grab a ball off of his back shoulder the next.

    Best route runner: O.J. Howard, Alabama

    Howard’s athleticism shines when it comes to running his routes. He’s such a gifted athlete, with exceptional acceleration and agility that he uses to create separation virtually at will.

    Best after the catch: Gerald Everett, South Alabama

    Everett is a nightmare to bring down in the open field. He’s athletically gifted, and his explosiveness and balance are two of his greatest attributes. Everett is quick enough to make people miss, but he’s also able to absorb contact while maintaining his momentum. He’s strong enough to drag defenders for extra yardage if they don’t hit him with force. David Njoku deserves an honorable mention here, but Everett takes it in a close one.

    Best run blocker: George Kittle, Iowa

    Kittle’s ability as a run-blocker shines when you throw on his game tape. He’s excellent at blocking on the move while demonstrating excellent footwork, balance and leverage. While he may lack the size to develop into a consistent in-line blocker, he’s a weapon when asked to block from off the line, which is a big reason why he finished the year with the second-highest run-blocking grade among draft eligible tight ends.

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    jrry32 wrote: Kupp is my pick if we go WR somewhere in the second or third round.

    laram wrote: Cooper Kupp – He’s a slot receiver only in the NFL but really lacks the ability to separate from press coverage via strength or quickness. He didn’t run very complex routes in college and was aided tremendously by scheme. I’m not saying he can’t play, just that he is being overvalued because he will not be a dominant receiver he’s a #3 IMO. He needs to be in the right system, with top threats on the outside.

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    Wonder why the Dolphins voted against it?

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    http://www.local10.com/sports/nfl/dolphins/dolphins-lone-vote-against-raiders-move-to-las-vegas

    “My position today was that we as owners and as a league owe it to the fans to do everything we can to stay in the communities that have supported us until all options have been exhausted,” Ross told Miami Herald reporter Adam Beasley.

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    http://nesn.com/2017/03/heres-the-likely-reason-why-dolphins-opposed-raiders-las-vegas-move/

    Ross has a point, as we now have seen three franchises announce a relocation within the last 14 months after the Rams and Chargers both moved to Los Angeles. That’s left fan bases in St. Louis, San Diego and now Oakland out to dry, while it’s unclear if these teams can carve out “legacies” in uncertain markets such as Las Vegas and L.A.

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    A national health insurance program could save approximately $150 billion on paperwork alone. Because of the administrative complexities in our current system, over 25% of every health care dollar goes to marketing, billing, utilization review, and other forms of waste. A single-payer system could reduce administrative costs greatly.

    And that doesn’t even mention things like money spent on lobbying, campaign donations, and the time doctors spend having to navigate different insurers on a given day (I’ve read before that that represents a HUGE portion of any physician’s time).

    Same idea, different details:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4283267/

    The United States’ multiple-payer health care system requires substantial effort and costs for administration, with billing and insurance-related (BIR) activities comprising a large but incompletely proportion. … A simplified financing system in the U.S. could result in cost savings exceeding $350 billion annually, nearly 15% of health care spending.

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    Single-Payer Myths; Single-Payer Facts

    http://www.pnhp.org/facts/singlepayer_myths_singlepayer_facts.php

    Facts about National Health Insurance (NHI) You Might Not Know

    The health care delivery system remains private. As opposed to a national health service, where the government employs doctors, in a national health insurance system, the government is billed, but doctors remain in private
    practice.

    A national health insurance program could save approximately $150 billion on paperwork alone. Because of the administrative complexities in our current system, over 25% of every health care dollar goes to marketing, billing,
    utilization review, and other forms of waste. A single-payer system could reduce administrative costs greatly.

    Most businesses would save money. Because a single-payer system is more efficient than our current system, health care costs are less, and therefore, businesses save money. In Canada, the three major auto manufacturers (Ford, GM, and Daimler-Chrysler) have all publicly endorsed Canada’s single-payer health system from a business and financial standpoint. In the United States, Ford pays more for its workers health insurance than it does for the steel to make its cars.

    Under NHI, your insurance doesn’t depend on your job. Whether you’re a student, professor, or working part-time raising children, you’re provided with care. Not only does this lead to a healthier population, but it’s also beneficial from an economic standpoint: workers are less-tied to their
    employers, and those that dislike their current positions can find new work
    (where they would be happier and most likely more productive and efficient).

    Myths about National Health Insurance (NHI)

    The government would dictate how physicians practice medicine.
    In countries with a national health insurance system, physicians are rarely questioned about their medical practices (and usually only in cases of expected fraud). Compare it to today’s system, where doctors routinely have to ask an insurance company permission to perform procedures, prescribe certain medications, or run certain tests to help their patients.

    Waits for services would be extremely long.
    Again, in countries with NHI, urgent care is always provided immediately. Other countries do experience some waits for elective procedures (like cataract removal), but maintaining the US’s same level of health expenditures (twice as much as the next-highest country), waits would be much shorter or even non-existent.

    People will overutilize the system.
    Most estimates do indicate that there would be some increased utilization of the system (mostly from the 42 million people that are currently uninsured and therefore not receiving adequate health care), however the staggering savings from a single-payer system would easily compensate for this. (And remember, doctors still control most health care utilization. Patients don’t receive prescriptions or tests because they want them; they receive them because their doctors have deemed them appropriate.)

    Government programs are wasteful and inefficient.
    Some are better than others, just as some businesses are better than others. Just to name a few of the most successful and helpful: the National Institutes of Health, the Centers for Disease Control, and Social Security. Even consider Medicare, the government program for the elderly; its overhead is approximately 3%, while in private insurance companies, overhead and profits add up to 15-25%.

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    Get ready, Las Vegas: All signs point to the Raiders winning relocation vote Monday
    The fact that owners are voting on the Raiders’ move Monday is a telling sign, but not the only one

    Jason La Canfora

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/get-ready-las-vegas-all-signs-point-to-the-raiders-winning-relocation-vote-monday/

    The Oakland Raiders are going to move to Las Vegas. I am finally convinced of it.
    After being a skeptic throughout this process and especially in the aftermath of owner Mark Davis’ deal with casino magnate Sheldon Adelson falling apart around the Super Bowl, there are too many people I trust telling me this has become basically a fait accompli for me to deny it any longer. By Monday night, Davis will be cracking open the bubbly and toasting to his future on the Strip, because with the NFL including a formal vote on Vegas on its official agenda for the annual spring meeting, there is almost no time for this to fall apart now.
    The league is incredibly careful about if or when a matter this large gets before the entire caucus of 32 owners for a relocation vote, and the mere fact that a vote of that very nature is schedule for Monday is further indication that the Raiders are on the move. Yes, there will be contingencies involved, and yes, the NFL teams have yet to receive the full binder detailing the minutia and specifics of the agenda items. And, sure, the all-powerful stadium and finance committees will conduct a conference call this week to iron out Vegas’ loose strings before the league converges on Phoenix starting Sunday for the meeting.
    But this is happening.
    Time for Oakland has basically run out, and even with Davis being of limited means — by NFL owner standards — and being of moderate clout, he is about to accomplish his goal of leaving the Bay Area for a sweetheart deal in Las Vegas, however shortsighted that might turn out to be for him and the league.
    “This is going to happen,” said one well-connected league source who has been in close contact with many influential owners on this matter. “Enough people will hold their noses and pray for the best and vote this through. Oakland — and by Oakland I mean the government officials there — hasn’t stepped up nearly enough, and the league is ready to put this to a vote. And while there is some trepidation about this market, it is going to pass.”
    One high ranking official with one of the league’s more conservative franchises said that despite his owner’s concerns over the city’s obvious gambling connections and despite the fact that Oakland is the superior television market with superior population demographics, this is imminent. “Mark will get the 24 votes he needs,” the executive said. “If it’s going to a vote, that’s because the votes are there. If my guy is going to vote for it, then this team is moving.”
    There are still some issues to sort out, but none the NFL appears to consider significant enough to push a vote back to May or October. Even with a new stadium in Vegas not being ready until 2019 at the earliest and even with the Raiders soon to be in need of temporary residence anyway, this movement is strong. Bank of America stepping in to finance the deal in the aftermath of Adelson bailing (taking Goldman Sachs investment banking money with him) has saved the day.
    Yes, there are some worries about what the debt ratio will be on this project. There are concerns about whether the franchise or the stadium could be used as collateral (which is a no-no). There are some unknowns about how the exact language of the lease will read. But those are trumped by the $750 million in free money coming the league’s way, to say nothing of the relocation fee. These owners are ready to take this bird in hand — albeit one in a lesser locale — rather than continue to wait for one to develop in the Bay Area bush.
    The other teams are awaiting more details from the NFL on precisely what they will be voting on, and the expectation is that the vote will be contingent on Davis meeting certain criteria in terms of the financial of the stadium and debts, etc. The mystery of who will actually develop and construct the stadium and the area immediately around it is coming into focus as well, with league sources strongly suggesting that billionaire mogul Ed Roski — who is thought of highly in ownership circles and who tried previously to bring NFL football to the Los Angeles area — will end up overseeing the project.
    There are no longer worries that Adelson may be a hurdle to any construction there — given some of the sore feelings between him and the Raiders after their potential partnership dissolved — and Roski is well equipped to handle a project of this magnitude. And unlike Davis, who grossly underestimated the role of working with and to some degree appeasing UNLV officials in some of his initial dealings in Nevada, Roski is positioned to ensure the collegiate and professional football gods are appeased. “Roski has been working with UNLV for years,” one ownership source said. “He understands some of the nuance here.”
    I suspect there will be a dissenting voice or two come Monday afternoon in the grand ballrooms at the luxurious Biltmore Hotel. An owner or two will remind the group, and commissioner Roger Goodell, that the NFL established the G4 stadium funding plan in the first place to keep owners from making potentially shortsighted decisions to leave a better and more populous marker for a lesser one, demographically, simply because of a stadium deal.
    But the allure of all of those dollar signs has set in. And the frustration with the lack of traction in Oakland — at least as perceived by the league office and the owners — has only grown. The wind is blowing in Vegas’s direction and that’s not going to change now, this late in the game. The Raiders will continue to pitch the idea that the limited population in that area will be offset by the influx of fans from Oakland and Los Angeles into the desert on weekends to attend games.
    Oh, and did I mention the $750 million?
    It may end up being a very big mistake. Five to 10 years from now, there might be a lot of regret about the strength of this market and its foreclosures and weaker population and transient nature. Especially as compared to the boom town that Oakland and the Bay Area continue to be. But Jerry Jones has been championing this project and Bob Kraft is on board, and Davis has a viable enough deal to present, one he is set on presenting.
    He’s a mere 24 votes away from moving this storied franchise, yet again. And it certainly appears those votes are essentially already in hand.

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    Cooper Kupp, WR

    I think very highly of Zay Jones, Chris Godwin, Juju Smith, and Evan Engram, but Kupp is my pick if we go WR somewhere in the second or third round. Why? There are three things I want to highlight: 1) production, 2) physical talent, and 3) technical skill.
    Production
    Kupp’s Career Stats
    Four-year starter (52 games)
    428 catches
    6464 receiving yards
    15.1 yards per catch
    73 receiving TDs
    *Holds every career receiving record across all divisions of college football

    Kupp’s Per Season Averages Over His Career
    107 catches
    1616 receiving yards
    18 receiving TDs

    Kupp’s Career Production vs. the Pac-12
    4 games (Oregon, Washington*, Oregon State, and Washington State)
    40 catches
    716 receiving yards
    11 receiving TDs
    *Against Washington as a sophomore, Kupp posted 8 catches for 145 yards and 3 TDs. His three TDs were a 7 yard TD against Marcus Peters in zone coverage, a 41 yard TD against Marcus Peters in man coverage, and a 26 yard TD against Bubba Baker in man coverage. Peters is one of the NFL’s best CBs. Baker is a projected late-first to mid-second round pick this year.

    Physical Talent
    This is where you might see people knock Kupp. Kupp measured in around 6’2″ 205 at the NFL Combine. He posted a 4.62 40 yard dash, a 31 inch vertical jump, a 9’07” broad jump, a 4.08 short shuttle, and a 6.75 three cone drill. His 40 and jumps were below average at best. People will latch onto those, but the agility drills are what should stand out. They match the tape. Kupp’s quickness, change of direction ability, burst off the LOS, and fluid hips all stand out as special attributes on tape. The Patriots are known for putting a heavy emphasis on the three cone drill. There are not many 6’2″ WRs who move like Kupp does. It makes it very difficult for CBs to stay in his hip pocket.

    Technical Skill
    Kupp’s father played QB in the NFL and his grandfather played OG. You can definitely tell that he was the kid of a pro QB. He’s a well-schooled player who’s technical skills are beyond advanced for his age. As a route runner, Kupp changes speeds to keep CBs on their toes and earn him separation on deep routes. He understands how to use leverage, subtle fakes, and body control to tilt CBs to gain extra separation out of his breaks. He displays tremendous body control and balance throughout his routes using his phenomenal agility and cutting ability to separate at all levels of the field. You can also tell that he studies his opponent’s and understands how to attack each player he lines up against. When he comes out of his break, he works aggressively back to the QB to cut off defenders paths to the football. And even when he isn’t the primary receiver, he runs his route in such a way to draw defenders away from the primary read and is always ready to find open spaces when his QB scrambles. He’s absolutely lethal against zone coverage because of his football IQ, fearlessness, and quickness. He finds the soft spots of the zone quickly, settles, and makes catches in traffic with no regard for his safety. His releases against press coverage are also gorgeous. His footwork and hand usage are textbook, and his quickness/burst make it absolutely unfair at times. He embarrassed Oregon’s CBs in 2015 when they tried to press him in the red-zone.

    That all said, I don’t even think route running is his best skill. His best skill is his ability to catch the football. Kupp’s grip strength and hand technique are both outstanding. He snatches the ball away from his frame when the situation calls for it, he bodies it when the situation calls for it, and he attacks the ball in the air when the situation calls for it. He also tracks the ball over his shoulder with ease. Kupp is the type of player who makes the hard catches look so easy that you want to call it a drop when he actually fails to make one. He has a large catch radius, rarely ever drops the football, and can be counted on to come down with the ball when bodies are around him.

    Oddly enough, Larry Fitzgerald is the name that keeps coming to mind for me when I watch Kupp. It’s not because they have similar body types or the same style of play. Kupp isn’t the dominant 50-50 ball WR that Larry is. It’s because Kupp, like Fitzgerald, makes playing WR look easy despite not having vertical speed. He catches anything and everything you throw his way. He always seems to find a way to be open no matter the coverage when you need him. And even when he isn’t open, he finds a way to make a key catch if you throw it his way. Kupp isn’t Larry Fitzgerald, but he has that same sort of naturalness to his game. Whether he’s in the slot, at split end, or at flanker, he’s going to find a way to be an absolute headache for the opposition. In 52 games as a starter, Kupp was held under 50 receiving yards only twice during his career. Simply put, nobody could figure out how to stop the guy. I expect him to continue to produce on Sundays.

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    Richard Sherman: Kaepernick’s unemployment not about football

    Michael David Smith

    Richard Sherman: Kaepernick’s unemployment not about football

    Seahawks cornerback Richard Sherman thinks Colin Kaepernick’s inability to find a team is entirely about his national anthem protest.

    “There was a year Matt Schaub had a pretty rough year and got signed the next year. So it has nothing to do with football,” Sherman said on ESPN. “You can see that. They signed guys who have had off years before.”

    The idea that football has “nothing” to do with Kaepernick’s inability to find a job just doesn’t carry any water. If Sherman thinks Kaepernick’s unemployment is solely about the anthem protest, then how does Sherman explain the tepid interest in Kaepernick when the 49ers made him available for trade last year, before the anthem protest?

    Kaepernick has undeniably declined significantly as a player since he burst onto the scene as the 49ers’ starter in 2012. Over the last two seasons, Kaepernick and Blaine Gabbert have shared time in San Francisco and played approximately equally well, and Gabbert hasn’t been able to find a job, either.

    But it’s also undeniable that a lot of NFL owners, general managers and coaches are conservative people who disagree with Kaepernick’s protest. It’s certainly possible that some of those people would be willing to look past Kaepernick’s on-field struggles but aren’t willing to look past his anthem protest, or his off-field political advocacy.

    Sherman thinks Kaepernick is still better than most starting quarterbacks in the league.

    “You don’t have 32 starting-level quarterbacks in this league,” Sherman said. “You have about eight elites, and then you have the rest of the league. You have about eight, nine elite quarterbacks. You have two or three who have the potential to be elite. And then you have the rest of the teams.

    So he could play and start on a ton of teams in this league. He would be a starter on probably 20 of the teams in this league. But you’re telling me that you’re going to let other guys, you’re going to pick up some of these other guys and tell me that they’re starters?”

    If Kaepernick were really better than 20 teams’ starting quarterbacks, it’s hard to believe not a single one of those teams would be willing to sign him. But Kaepernick is surely at least one of the 64 best quarterbacks in the NFL, which means he should at least be able to get a job as a backup. Yet he remains unemployed.

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    The Raiders’ Road to Vegas Relocation Appears All Clear

    Albert Breer

    http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/03/23/oakland-raiders-las-vegas-relocation-nfl-owner-meetings

    NFL owners are preparing to vote on the issue at next week’s league meetings. Here’s a look at how Mark Davis got it to this point, and what’s ahead. Plus Kaepernick’s unemployment, Cam’s recovery and much more

    Decades ago, the late Raiders owner Al Davis ruminated about wanting to relocate his team to Las Vegas. And it turned out that was the one creek where he couldn’t swim upstream.

    Too seedy. Too much gambling. Too much mafia. Too far from the NFL’s ideals.
    It was too far to go for even the ultimate renegade owner, the one who once sued the NFL to kick open the door to Los Angeles, only to return to Oakland 13 years later.

    That’s why when I asked around over the past week about Davis’s son, Mark, trying to move the team there now, what caught my attention most was the lack of concern over the stigma of Sin City among team owners, presidents and those at 345 Park. In most cases, in fact, I had to bring it up for it even to be a topic of conversation.

    Times have changed, and what was once a big question simply isn’t one anymore.
    “From a gambling standpoint? That’s a joke to even say that’d be a problem,” said one AFC owner. “That was an issue decades ago. Now? Sports gambling is going to be legal. We might as well embrace it and become part of the solution, rather than fight it. It’s in everyone’s best interests for it to be above-board.”

    Said an NFC owner: “The first question, naturally, is going to be about gambling. But any of us can pull our phones out of our pockets and place a bet right now. [The concern] is not 100 percent put to bed, but it’s relatively put to bed, just because of technology today.”

    But we start with what my boss Peter King teased in his Wednesday column, and what’ll be the big talking point at next week’s annual league meeting—the Raiders moving for the third time in 35 years, something that’s at least taking on the appearance of being imminent. I already detailed the relocation fee ($325 million to $375 million), and the one owner who feels the Raiders will be better off in Vegas than the Chargers are in L.A.
    Today we’ll look at the varied elements to this story ahead of next week’s expected vote. One ownership source told me Tuesday that he believes the Raiders and Davis have 27 or 28 votes. A high-level source with another team said his belief is that if the league senses Davis won’t get the necessary 24, the vote likely would be pushed to May, before adding that he fully expects a vote.

    So here are 10 things important to know about this process…

    • Oakland’s failure > Vegas’ potential. The league doesn’t want to leave Oakland. Most owners don’t either. “If this was apples to apples,” said one NFC team president, “they wouldn’t be going.” It’s not apples to apples. Oakland, for very legitimate reasons, has chosen to back the A’s stadium effort over the Raiders’. And the A’s control the Coliseum lease well into the 2020s. Which means Davis not only doesn’t have the public money he’s getting in Vegas at home, but also doesn’t have the land. My feeling is owners would be inclined to stop the Raiders from abandoning the vibrant Bay Area if there were two legit options here. There aren’t.

    • THE SUPER BOWL, VEGAS-STYLE: Robert Klemko spent the big day at the city’s biggest sports book to see how the game is played

    • Oakland becomes an attractive market … for someone. Ideally for the NFL, Mark Zuckerberg or Larry Ellison would buy the Raiders and begin building an East Bay football palace. With the Niners in down Santa Clara, plenty in NFL circles loved the Raiders’ potential to mine the North and East Bay. That opportunity could be there for someone else. “[Zuckerberg and Ellison] are just the third parties,” said another NFC owner. “You never know what’ll happen internally. For a team that’s struggling in a particular market and looking for a solution, Oakland may be a good one.” There is question over whether West Coast markets are equipped to support two NFL teams, but the wealth, diversity and growth of the Bay Area will intrigue.

    • Davis is, in essence, getting an ownership partner. For years other owners and league officials have tried to nudge Davis to take on a full partner, like Ellison, with the capital to invest in growing the market. Davis steadfastly has resisted. This move solves that. “He’s very averse to bringing in an ownership partner,” said one NFC executive. “So the City of Las Vegas becomes his partner. He gets a stadium partner without having to take on an equity partner.” The result is it’ll be easier to maximize Vegas, given the circumstances, than it was Oakland.

    • What’s in the lease? This is an important, unresolved issue for some owners, and why approval may wind up being conditional. And so the question becomes how much the Raiders’ rent will be, and what revenues the team will forgo as part of a deal that put $750 million in public money on Davis’s plate.

    • Is Vegas big/wealthy enough? Las Vegas ranks 40th as a TV market. It’s transient. Its economy relies on Americans’ discretionary income, making it susceptible in a downturn. And it’s long been among the top cities in foreclosures per capita. These concerns outrank the gambling issue by a mile, as does the fear that the Raiders could be pulling up stakes again in 20 years. And those concerns come into focus with the team trying to move its premium product (suites, club seats, etc.).

    • Where does Sheldon Adelson fit in? Adelson, the billionaire casino magnate who pulled out of a deal with the Raiders, was at the Super Bowl, and word is he privately said he wouldn’t stand in the way of the team moving forward without him. But his presence looms large in Vegas, and therein lies another concern. If the business community views the Raiders as having crossed Adelson, will those people be reluctant to partner with the team? “He’ll scare some people, and other people won’t be scared,” said the AFC owner. “But money was the deal-breaker, and Mark got the money back in a week.”

    • Who fills the Adelson void? Part of Vegas’s willingness to contribute $750 million to this project is the belief a windfall will come during the 355 days when NFL football is not played in the venue. The city can attract a show, as you might’ve heard. So who runs those events, and the business of the stadium? That was going to be Adelson, who was attracted in the first place by the potential a Vegas football stadium had in so many non-football ways. Word is, the Raiders (and not a third party) will control all of it, the way the Cowboys do at AT&T Stadium and the Vikings do at US Bank Stadium, which would mean adding a whole bunch of new staff.

    • The Raiders’ brand solves problems. There’s a reason why the Raiders are perfect for Vegas that cuts beyond the “outlaw” thing. Their brand is national, so physical location matters less for them. The hope is that their pockets of fans in Southern and Northern California will travel, the same way the L.A. fan base they have would take the old Al Davis Southwest route to Oakland over the past two decades. It may not help much with the premium product, but it will help fill the stadium.

    • A destination for the Other 31. We don’t need to spend much time here. It’s easy. If you’re a fan of another team who likes to annually road-trip to an away game, and Vegas is on the schedule, you’ll probably consider going. That helps the Vegas cause.

    • The next three years. This isn’t a deal-breaker, but owners will want to know more about the readiness of UNLV’s Sam Boyd Stadium—it would need significant upgrades to be NFL compliant—to serve as a temporary facility. The Raiders will play in Oakland in 2017 and have said they’ll stay for 2018, too, but the league likely will want to have an escape hatch if things go poorly this fall, and the Raiders may want to spend the year before their new stadium opens (in 2020) in Vegas anyway.

    Now, one thing I should say: Some could push to move the vote to May. But there’s not much of a belief that anything would change in the weeks between the annual meeting and the spring meeting, and going past that could open the risk that the $750 million goes away. And Bank of America rushing to take the financing baton from Goldman and Adelson is proof to most owners of the viability of the project.

    So chances are Davis’s peers give him his victory here. As I wrote in October, over the course of 2016 the Raiders’ quirky owner has earned a lot of respect in the rooms that will be filled next week with voters. One of them went so far on Tuesday to say that, based on the record amount of public funding he’s secured, and the 12-win team he fielded, Davis should’ve been a candidate for executive of the year.

    Davis took one tough situation (Oakland) that was compounded by a difficult loss (Los Angeles) and came up with a pretty cool solution. And the league likely will reward him for it.

    “My general sense is no one is opposed to it, but it’s hard to find a lot of people that are really that in favor,” said an executive for an NFC team. “It’s not negative, it’s just that most are like, ‘This is perfectly fine.’ … The bottom line is Oakland has no plan.”

    And so with most of these guys viewing Vegas in a very different light than they once did, the door that Al Davis could never crack is swinging wide open for his son.

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    Allz-i-know-iz, i hope-ta-god we arent sitting here next year
    saying they need a Quarterback.

    Goff. Its all about Goff to me.

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    Goff, to me, it’s just how fast he can get up to NFL level gamespeed. The mental part of the game–seeing the defense pre-snap and acting accordingly, being in tune with his receivers, that kind of thing. He has the arm, the accuracy, and the mental toughness. He just needs to learn the algebra.

    Though of course, there’s no pure guarantee he will learn that, let alone fast enough.

    But, I think he can and will.

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