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znModeratorRams trade LT Greg Robinson to Lions
VINCENT BONSIGNORE
With a new coaching regime in place, major change was inevitable for the Los Angeles Rams. And it hasn’t taken Sean McVay and his staff long to execute those changes.
Hours after the Rams concluded their mandatory minicamp on Wednesday – thus ending their offseason workout program – they traded offensive tackle Greg Robinson to the Detroit Lions for a conditional draft pick.
Robinson has been a major disappointment since being drafted second overall in the 2014 draft, never coming close to living up to expectations as the Rams’ cornerstone left tackle they envisioned.
After 42 consecutive starts, Robinson was made inactive for a late-season game at New Orleans, near his hometown, and also was kept him out of the lineup four weeks later against San Francisco.
His time with the club was tenuous, at best, after they opted this offseason not to pick up his fifth-year option for next year and after they signed veteran left tackle Andrew Whitworth in free agency. But there was hope a move to right tackle would settle him down and he’d at least develop into an average blocker this year.
But that hope was short lived, and not long after the start of OTA’s Robinson was displaced as the starter by Jamon Brown and his reps in practice dwindled in the process. At that point, the writing was on the wall, and there was legitimate question he wouldn’t survive training camp. If he even made it that far.
In the Lions, the Rams at least found a way to dispatch Robinson and pick up a draft pick rather than just cut him. The Lions are in need of tackles after losing Taylor Decker to a torn labrum, and decided Robinson is worth the risk of the reported sixth-round draft pick it took to get him.
By trading Robinson, the Rams save $3.2 million on their salary cap.
In the process, they remove a significant disappointment.
“Since we drafted Greg, he has been committed to our organization, his teammates and community outreach,” Rams general manager Les Snead said in a statement. “We appreciate his dedication and the effort he’s put forth over the past three seasons. We wish him the best as he embarks on this new chapter.”
Asked after Wednesday’s practice about Robinson, McVay said he “seen good things at times,” and that Robinson still had a role on the team as the offseason program concluded.
“As we continue to evaluate guys this offseason,” McVay said, “especially when you don’t have pads on, you always are mindful of how much you put into it. I think it was a great opportunity for us as a coaching staff to get around Greg, see some of the things that make him a special talent, and then continue to develop and move forward.”
The Rams now seem prepared to move forward with Whitworth at left tackle, Rodger Saffold at left guard, John Sullivan at center, Rob Havenstein at right guard and Brown at right tackle.
znModeratorJason Cole@JasonColeBR
Most damning story about ex-Rams, new-Lions OT Greg Robinson is that he spent more time learning rap lyrics than studying pass protections.
znModeratorLewan wasn’t in the mix. He tried to protect a college teammate accused of rape by threatening to rape the victim himself if she didn’t drop the allegations.
That’s right. But there was some love flowing for Watkins, Evans, and Martin. Khalil Mack is another guy who worked out a little better than Robinson.
I dunno man, they couldn’t possibly pay for both Mack and Donald.
I am not that interested in Watkins. Glad they skipped that one.
Best bet would have been a trade down.
They had a trade up in the works for Martin, but Dallas took him one pick before the slot they would have traded into.
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znModerator11 Tennessee Titans Taylor Lewan † OT Michigan Big Ten
Lewan wasn’t in the mix. He tried to protect a college teammate accused of rape by threatening to rape the victim himself if she didn’t drop the allegations.
znModeratorAccording to @Jason_OTC the #Rams are expected to save $3.3M on the cap by trading Robinson to the Lions. pic.twitter.com/PQ7X6LAel0
— TurfShowTimes (@TurfShowTimes) June 15, 2017
znModeratorLions trade for Greg Robinson, sign Cyrus Kouandjio
Michael David Smith
Lions trade for Greg Robinson, sign Cyrus Kouandjio
The Rams have gotten rid of a former draft bust and the Lions have gotten a potential fill-in for their injured left tackle.
Greg Robinson, the second overall pick in the 2014 NFL draft, has been traded to the Lions, according to Adam Schefter of ESPN. Detroit sends its 2018 sixth-round draft pick to Los Angeles in the deal.
That gives the Lions another player who can compete to start at left tackle in Week One, while starting left tackle Taylor Decker recovers from shoulder surgery. Robinson has played both guard and tackle for the Rams.
The Rams declined Robinson’s fifth-year option, which means the 2017 season is the final year on his rookie contract. He is due a base salary of $3.3 million.
The Lions have also signed another potential left tackle in former Bills second-round pick Cyrus Kouandjio, according to Field Yates of ESPN. So it’s a busy day for the Lions, who know they need to find a better option to protect Matthew Stafford’s blind side.
znModeratorThe #Rams have traded OL Greg Robinson to the #Lions, source said. Explains why he's been out of the lineup recently.
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) June 15, 2017
#Lions have been in the market for a tackle. Now they get Greg Robinson from the #Rams. It's for a 2018 6th rounder, as @AdamSchefter said
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) June 15, 2017
znModeratorVincent Bonsignore @DailyNewsVinny
#Rams cancellation was a reward from head coach Sean McVay for a job well done this off season..
Joe Curley @vcsjoecurley
Rookies will report to camp on July 26, veterans on July 28. Training camp begins July 29.
znModeratorAlden Gonzalez
from: http://www.espn.com/nfl/team/_/name/lar/los-angeles-rams
Greg Robinson is basically taking scout-team reps at right tackle, but Sean McVay said he still has a role. …
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Former No. 2 overall pick Greg Robinson has switched from left to right tackle, but Jamon Brown has been taking first-team reps at RT and I have barely seen Robinson even take second-team reps. Rams coach Sean McVay said Robinson still has a role and they’re still evaluating that position. “We’ll continue to help him develop and move forward.”
znModeratorRams Notes
Alden Gonzalez
http://www.espn.com/nfl/team/_/name/lar/los-angeles-rams
Some highlights from the Rams’ minicamp today: Tavon Austin, still recovering from wrist surgery, wants to continue to return punts but doesn’t care how he is used as a receiver. “I just want the ball in my hands.” … Greg Robinson is basically taking scout-team reps at right tackle, but Sean McVay said he still has a role. … Wade Phillips: “I think our secondary is stronger than people think.” … The Rams cancelled their final minicamp practice on Thursday, mainly as a reward to the players. That is it until training camp. McVay expects all his players healthy by then.
Rams announce that they have canceled their minicamp practice for Thursday. They also announced their training camp dates. Rookies report July 26, veterans on July 28, first full practice July 29.
Former No. 2 overall pick Greg Robinson has switched from left to right tackle, but Jamon Brown has been taking first-team reps at RT and I have barely seen Robinson even take second-team reps. Rams coach Sean McVay said Robinson still has a role and they’re still evaluating that position. “We’ll continue to help him develop and move forward.”
Rams DT Aaron Donald continued to work out on his own today and didn’t participate in team drills. Wade Phillips said all he cares about is that he’s there in the fall. “He’s an elite player,” Phillips said of Donald. “Besides his skills, he’s got a great attitude. He’s kind of a quiet guy, but he learns quickly. He knows what to do and how to do it, and he proves it out on the field. I can’t say enough good things about him.”
Rams offensive coordinator Matt LaFleur, on getting Todd Gurley going again: “I think just as a whole, offensively, we want to have a strong marriage with our running game and our passing game so that a defense can’t just tee off on a guy. The idea is to have a balanced attack and keep a defense guessing.”
The Rams still have a handful of guys who have been unable to practice fully, including EJ Gaines, Tavon Austin, Lance Dunbar, Mark Barron, Robert Quinn and Bradley Marquez. Also Aaron Donald, who skipped OTAs amid contract negotiations. But Sean McVay expects everyone fully healthy by training camp.
Rams WR Tavon Austin, recovering from surgery throughout the offseason program, doesn’t really know how he injured his wrist. He stressed that he would love to continue returning punts but that he is happy in whichever role they have for him. “At the end of the day, it’ll all play itself out,” Austin said. “If I’m in, I’m in. If I’m not, I’m not. That’s how it goes. I definitely can’t take away nothing that these guys have been doing, these last OTAs and minicamp. They’ve been ballin’.”
June 15, 2017 at 12:13 am in reply to: Goff's ninth game? articles on Goff in OTAs & mini-camp & up to training camp #70059
znModeratorGoff Looking Comfortable, Confident in New Offense
Myles Simmons
The Rams made a number of organizational moves during the offseason to help develop young quarterback Jared Goff, from hiring Sean McVay as head coach to signing free agent left tackle Andrew Whitworth. And with the club’s offseason program coming to an end this week, Goff has shown signs that he can take a significant step forward in his second pro season.
Both coaches and players have extolled Goff for his leadership off the field, and the quarterback appears to be more comfortable and confident during practice.
“I think a lot of that has to do with the guys around me,” Goff said Tuesday. “I think we’ve done a good job offensively going from the install to on the field and being effective with it. I think that goes back to the coaches as well. Their ability to install and their ability to teach and coach us has been tremendous. It’s been a lot of fun learning with them and continuing to improve myself and the team as a whole.”
The ease of installing the playbook has been a common refrain from members of Los Angeles’ offense since McVay’s arrival. Players have said it comes from the way the coaches have been so detail oriented in their instruction and focus on learning day-by-day.
“I’ve enjoyed every day coming out here and learning with them,” Goff said. “All the way back from when we started meeting with them to now — it’s been awesome. I’ve had a really good time learning it. I think I’ve picked it up at a pretty good pace. I like where we’re at right now. Obviously, a lot of stuff to improve on, especially from today. But again, I like where we’re at.”
From offensive coordinator Matt LaFleur’s vantage point, Goff has done well in making daily strides throughout the offseason program.
“That’s been the biggest thing with him, is just get a little bit better each day, become a little more consistent on a daily basis,” LaFleur said.
“I think when you look at trying to find your identity and what you kind of want to hang your hat on within the framework of our offense, I think he’s picked some of those things up well,” McVay said. “Again, like we always talk about, it’s going to be something where we want to do a good job as coaches figuring out our players and then we’ll adjust the system accordingly.”
That’s particularly important for a signal-caller in McVay’s system, which the head coach often says is set up to make the quarterback’s job as easy as possible. To that end, McVay said Goff will have input into the way the offense functions just like any other player.
“If there’s something that he feels like is going to make it an easier way for all of the players to understand and call a concept, that’s something that we’re certainly flexible with,” McVay said. “We try to make sure that as coaches we’re creating verbiage that makes sense from a teaching standpoint, as opposed to just, ‘This is just because.’ You want to always make sure there’s a ‘why.’ I think that gives you a better chance to learn if you have that.”
Still, McVay can often be seen on the field during practice coaching up the quarterbacks to ensure plays are run to his liking. And that’s something Goff likes.
“I think he is tough at times, I think there’s other times where he knows how to handle a situation, but I’ve been very happy with the way that he’s coached me,” Goff said. “I want him to be hard on me. I think I need it. I think that’s how I get better and continue to stay sharp.”
And Goff has made strong throws throughout the offseason program, particularly over the last few weeks. His teammates have noticed the progress, particularly as it relates to year over year improvement.
“There’s a lot more communicating to the receivers when he sees something,” wideout Pharoh Cooper said. “Last year, we would kind of just go about it and try to fix it the next day or something. But if we mess something up, he’ll talk to you about it on the sideline now. We’ll say, ‘Jared, you saw what I saw?’ And we’ll go from there.”
With the Rams off until late July when training camp begins, Goff said he’ll be working out in Southern California to prepare for the season.
“I’ve got two things planned. I’m going to have a camp at my high school coming up here soon. I’m going to play golf in Tahoe in the middle of July and that’s about it,” Goff said. “Everything else will be down here training.”
That’s training to produce quality results for 2017 and many seasons to come.
znModeratorJune 14, 2017 at 9:39 pm in reply to: McVay, Phillips, LaFleur, Tavon … 6/14 (vids & transcripts) #70054
znModeratorI have to admit, Phillips has me really looking forward to seeing this defense.
What a hire.
znModeratorRich Hammond @Rich_Hammond
Aaron Donald once again did individual work in Rams mini-camp today, and it was so hot that he even took off his hoodie...
Vincent Bonsignore @DailyNewsVinny
#Rams have canceled their final minicamp practice for Thursday. They’ll gather next in Irvine for training camp at end of July..
Gary Klein @LATimesklein
Rams WR Tavon Austin caught some passes in pre-practice drills. Said he would be ready for training camp.Gary Klein @LATimesklein
#Rams DT Aaron Donald returned for minicamp but don’t expect to put himself at risk...
Joe Curley @vcsjoecurley
Tavon Austin says he’d still love to return punts. Says it’s a big part of his game.“I have a good feeling about this team… I feel good where we are right now.” – Wade Phillips
“We have some good players. I think our secondary is stronger than people think.” – Wade Phillips“I feel really good about the left side of our line.” — McVay
June 14, 2017 at 8:03 pm in reply to: latest young receivers thread…Reynolds, Thomas, what Holt sez, etc. #70049
znModeratorhe’s got tremendous body control, very good explosion. that makes for a good catch radius and he makes some ridiculous catches.
znModeratorI wish they would have tried him at LG. That would have been the better position for him.
Well it seems they like Hav at guard.
IMO Hav has no competition at OG. He’s their ROG. I think it’s set.
znModeratorThe CIA has never been one thing. It has never been unified either. Just as the Hoover FBI isn’t the same thing as the current FBI. So what is it now? Well not the little sisters of the poor, but, it is interesting to ask.
znModeratorVox is regarded as a left/liberal source.
The hacking was an effort to influence and disrupt an election. In that case, you don’t actually have to accomplish anything, you can in fact fail–but the attempt in the first place is itself a huge problem. It would be as if you complained to the board mods that nittany tried to shoot you. But you are undamaged, we say. You say, yeah he missed…this time. And we say, well come back when he actually causes harm, and we’ll talk to him.
And THIS hacking attempt is not the only issue or action all of Russia-gate entails.
znModeratorVikings benefit from extended presence of Sam Bradford
Mike Florio
Vikings benefit from extended presence of Sam Bradford
Last year, the very late arrival of quarterback Sam Bradford to the Minnesota offense was akin to changing a tire on a moving car. This year, the Vikings and Bradford have a full chance to tinker with the vehicle before putting it on the track.
The Vikings are raving about what Bradford can bring to the team with a full offseason of work, as opposed to late year — where there was no offseason work, no training camp, no preseason with Bradford.
“It is crazy because during the season, it was almost like he had been there all offseason, so for us now to have an offseason on top of that, what we did last year, it is great,” receiver Adam Thielen said, via Ben Goessling of ESPN.com. “Obviously him talking to us, telling us how he likes things done, how we like things done, kind of getting on the same page. That is what this is all about. I think we have gotten off to a great start.”
Despite Thielen’s positivity about Bradford in 2016, the Minnesota offense struggled, finishing 28th in total yards and slumping to a 3-8 finish after a 5-0 start. The abrupt resignation of offensive coordinator Norv Turner surely was a factor, as was poor play from the offensive line. Still, having Bradford for the full year as opposed to having him from Labor Day on — along with (presumably) having offensive coordinator Pat Shurmur employed through January — can’t hurt.
Assuming Bradford doesn’t get hurt. Despite a history of injuries, he took a beating last year but kept going. With Teddy Bridgewater’s status still undetermined, it will be important to keep Bradford healthy for as much of the season as possible.
znModeratorOkay, saw it.
It was okay. Not great. A bit hokey. A bit predictable.
Visually, it was good but we’ve seen it before. I like the female superhero running the show. That’s a good thing. I like the actress playing Wonder Woman. It wasn’t a bad film. But I’ll still take The Dark Knight trilogy as the standard for these things.
I will see Justice League. I have to. My wife is in love with Jason Momoa.
I give it more credit than you do. I rank it right there with Spiderman 2, X-Men 2, the Dark Knight Rises, and the 1st Avengers film. I think it is a very different thing from DKR–equal and a completely different thing.
znModeratorThe mainstream-corporate articles are vague
The last 2 articles on this in this thread are from Vox and Mother Jones, so this way too conveniently over general idea that mainstream news is always one single identifiable homogeneous thing doesn’t apply in this case.
June 14, 2017 at 11:24 am in reply to: Goff's ninth game? articles on Goff in OTAs & mini-camp & up to training camp #70029
znModeratorRams QB Jared Goff has added about 10 pounds, but will it help?
By Alden Gonzalez
THOUSAND OAKS, Calif. — Jared Goff likes to say that he has gained 10 pounds for every year of his life. He’s 22 now, heading into his second season in the NFL, and he is carrying about 220 pounds on him these days, 10 more than he did as a rookie.
The trend continues.
“I hope it slows down at about 23, 24,” Goff said with a smile. “I think I’ve been doing a good job just trying to continue to get strong and just continue to work as hard as I can.”
The Los Angeles Rams’ official website lists Goff at 6-foot-4 and 223 pounds after listing him at 215 last year. He came into the NFL relatively slight, then absorbed 25 sacks over his final six games — far more than anybody else during that stretch — and bulked up. Goff said that the added weight was merely a function of him continuing to grow into his body, not a reaction to anything that occurred last season. But it should only help.
Goff remembers the extra weight he added going into his sophomore season at Cal and how much better it made him.
“I felt it in the pocket,” Goff, speaking after the Rams’ minicamp practice on Tuesday, said. “The ability to make one guy miss is a big deal, and the ability to not get tackled by just a hand, just a guy grabbing your jersey, is a big deal. I think that’s where it helped the most.”
The Rams’ offensive line should be better, but Andrew Whitworth alone can’t significantly improve a unit that allowed the NFL’s second-most sacks last season. And since the end of the 2016 season, Goff’s divisional opponents have only added more menacing pass-rushers, most notably rookies Solomon Thomas (49ers) and Haason Reddick (Cardinals).
“It’s always important to be able to sustain some of the hits,” Rams coach Sean McVay said. “You still want to make sure that you’re fluid and flexible. I think that weight, when you’re thinking about some of the throws that you have to make in the face of a pass rush, and where you have to absorb those hits — I think it just allows you to be a little bit sturdier. I think you want to put it on the right way.”
The Rams believe Goff has. He called this his “first real offseason,” because colleges don’t really allow for one and because he spent a good chunk of last year’s preparing for the scouting combine.
“I did my best in the months we had off to continue to train hard,” Goff said, “and my body continues to grow.”
Goff was the No. 1 overall pick in 2016, but he wasn’t ready to start at the beginning of the season and he didn’t play well upon finally being given a chance. In seven games, all of them losses, Goff completed 54.6 percent of his passes, averaged 5.3 yards per attempt and posted a 22.2 Total QBR, all among the worst marks in the league. He’s stronger now, an entire year wiser, and he said learning McVay’s offense is “starting to become second-nature.”
But all that matters is how much better Goff will be by the time the Rams open up their season on Sept. 10.
“I don’t know if there’s an exact point you put on it,” Goff said when asked about his goals before the opener. “I think you just continue to get better every day. You can’t take a day off. I thought there were some plays today where I wasn’t as sharp as I wanted to be, and you can’t really allow that. You need to be sharp on every play or at least mentally sharp and know what you’re doing on every play. Sometimes daily, you don’t have that. I think when you get to the season and every single play is boom-boom-boom-boom all the way across, play-in and play-out, is when you kind of feel comfortable. I think we’re on our way there. I don’t think we’re there yet, but we’re on our way.”
June 14, 2017 at 9:01 am in reply to: Press conferences, 6/13 … McVay, Gurley, Goff (vids & transcripts) #70027
znModeratorI have to say. Gurley is the least interesting Rams interview in a long while. He just doesn’t want to talk, plus reporters have a kind of agenda with him (“you screwed up last year right it wasn’t just the line”) and he dodges it.
June 14, 2017 at 8:45 am in reply to: Press conferences, 6/13 … McVay, Gurley, Goff (vids & transcripts) #70024
znModeratorRams Head Coach Sean McVay – June 13, 2017
(On how he feels about how the team is doing at this time of year and the confidence every team has right now)
“That’s exactly right. I think when you really look at it, very similar to the OTA structure, other than the fact that it’s mandated and we get a little bit more time with the walk-thru, then we’ll come out for practice. Getting through the OTAs and Phase I and Phase II, now this kind of represents the culmination of our offseason program. We get a chance to hit all of our situations. The majority of our offense and defensive systems are in place. I think it gives a chance to really get a good evaluation before we go on break and kind of see where we’re at and what we need to really address moving forward going into training camp.”(On DT Aaron Donald’s contract situation)
“It’s great to have (DT) Aaron (Donald) here. There’s no more news in terms of the contract negotiations. But, it’s great to have him here, participated in the walk-thru. With him not being here, wanted to just make sure he’s in great shape like we know he is. But be smart about the way that we give him those reps. He’s done a nice job so far today. He’s really kept up with what’s going on mentally – such a sharp, natural football player. Kind of made a seamless transition with the walk-thru. It’s great to have him back here around his teammates.”(On how far behind Donald would possibly be after missing OTAs)
“You want your guys here and there’s a lot of information that’s given. But, with some of the resources we do have at our disposal, where you’re able to do some things away and still access some of the film. He’s such a conscientious player that I think he’s one of the few players that you do feel good about his ability to be able to get up to speed in a quick manner. You certainly would love to have those guys here, but with Aaron, he’s a guy that’s such a natural football player, I think the game comes simple to him. That’s not something that we’re too concerned about.”(On how much communication there was with Donald in his absence during OTAs and what his mindset is like)
“Really, we’ll keep that in-house. But, with getting him here today, it was great to be able to talk to him face-to-face. He’s in a good place, been taking great care of himself. He loves football. I think we all want to come to a resolution and we feel great about what Aaron has done for this organization and we’re optimistic about what’s to come.”(On if Donald will get any reps during minicamp)
“That’s something that we’ll determine moving forward. Really, see how he felt with the conditioning today. If we feel like that’s the best decision and Aaron feels like it is, then that’s something that we’ll do. But, we won’t decide that until later today.”(On the progress and relationship he’s built with QB Jared Goff and the potential improvement from year one to year two)
“I think he’s done a nice job. Like we’ll continue to talk about, really with any of our players, it’s kind of a one day at a time process. We’re always focusing on improving every single day. The quarterback position entails a lot, especially above the neck, we’re getting in and out of the huddle, communicating a play call, then how that dictates and determines where you’re going to go with the football. Some of the audibles that we ask him to do in the run-game. I think he has done a good job, but looking forward to seeing how he’s able to carry that over, making sure that he’s conscientious enough to improve over this break so that we can hit it running in training camp.”(On OLB Robert Quinn’s status)
“With (OLB) Robert (Quinn), it was just a little issue that had happened with his hand. Not going to be anything that’s going to hold him up for training camp. We’re just being extra cautious with him. He’s going to be good to go when things get rolling for us.”(On if Quinn had a surgical procedure)
“It was a minor thing. And it was something that’s not going to hold him back going into camp. But, when you look at what he’s done this offseason – the way that he’s competed. It was a situation where we were able to get it addressed so that it’s going to be fixed. He’ll be fully ready to roll for camp. It was just a little, minor procedure with his hand.”(On him and his staff’s objective with mandatory minicamp so that the team is ready for training camp mentally and physically)
“That’s a big part of it, too. You want to make sure you’re getting good work in, but we also want to try and get out of this healthy. Knock on wood, fortunately haven’t had anything that’s going to affect guys’ ability to be ready for training camp when we do report to Irvine. But, I think it’s just continuing to get that knowledge of the systems, put guys through different situations. Really, when you go through some of these things in practice you try to mimic and emulate it. It’s great for the coaches, too. We’re forced to think through some things, play calls and how we would handle certain situations and circumstances that do come up. I think it’s just continuing to build and making sure that we practice smart and try to get out of this thing healthy as well.”(On how Goff has picked things up and translated them to the field through the offseason program)
“I think he’s done a nice job. I think there’s a lot of challenges. I think there’s some things that we can always continue to improve on. I think when you look at trying to find your identity and what you kind of want to hang your hat on within the framework of our offense, I think he’s picked some of those things up well. Again, like we always talk about, it’s going to be something where we want to do a good job as coaches figuring out our players and then we’ll adjust the system accordingly. We’ve got a lot of different things that we can do, but it’s about figuring out what these guys do best. Having an identity and making sure that you have some complements off that identity.”(On how much input Goff will have in the play calling and gameplan)
“From a teaching progression, you certainly try to make sure that the things that you’re calling it make sense. Have that word association, if you will. If there’s something that he feels like is going to make it an easier way for all of the players to understand and call a concept, that’s something that we’re certainly flexible with. He does have his input, just like any of the other players. We try to make sure that as coaches we’re creating verbiage that makes sense from a teaching standpoint, as opposed to just, ‘This is just because.’ You want to always make sure there’s a why. I think that gives you a better chance to learn if you have that.”(On RB Todd Gurley’s mindset needing to have a bounce-back year)
“He’s a great football player that’s motivated to respond in the right way. I think he’s been a great leader for us. He works extremely hard, extremely conscientious in the meeting room. I had never really been around (RB) Todd (Gurley) before I got here and I’ve been extremely pleased with him. I think he’s a much more complete player than maybe a lot of people would think with his ability to contribute in the pass-game, protection and then, obviously, he’s an elite runner. He’s a special player and we’ve got to do a great job putting him in good spots. I think he’s certainly done his part in setting a good example for what it looks like to be one of the standards on this team.”(On what it is about Defensive Coordinator Wade Phillips’ system that allows players to pick it up quickly)
“I think he’s a great teacher. I think he does a good job of making sure that it makes sense to the players. We’re going to continue to do the same things over and over until guys feel comfortable. And then, he does a great job of putting his players in good match-up situations, almost like you try to from an offensive standpoint. He finds a way to get his elite rushers in some good situations. Making sure that he’s putting his guys on the backend in good spots with some of their match-ups. I think that’s why you’ve seen him have success throughout the course of his career. We’re lucky to have Wade here.”(On Goff’s weight gain and if it was recommended by the team and how it can help him)
“I think it’s always important to be able to sustain some of the hits. Anytime that you’re able to just be a little bit sturdier. You still want to make sure that you’re fluid and flexible. I think that weight, when you’re thinking about some of the throws that you have to make in the face of a pass rush and where you have to absorb those hits – I think it just allows you to be a little bit sturdier. I think you want to put it on the right way. From everything that we’ve seen and heard from (Head Strength and Conditioning Coach) Ted Rath and his staff, that’s kind of where we’re at with him. That’s going to be an ongoing process.”(On how much of Goff’s weight gain was influenced by the amount of sacks he took as a rookie)
“When you look at sacks, it’s a combination of things. I think the quarterback has a reasonability of getting the ball out and the timing and rhythm – the line and the backs and receivers. I think sacks are on all 11 (players). But, I think to be able to withstand those hits as a whole is something that’s important. When you talk about trying to avoid those sacks, that’s something we talk about with the unit and everybody has a contribution to trying to make sure that we limit those.”***
Rams QB Jared Goff – June 13, 2017
(On what he did physically during the offseason)
“Just continue to train hard. Did my best in the months we had off to continue to train hard and my body continues to grow. I understand I’m still young and there still is going to be some growing. I’ve said this for a while now, I’ve gained about 10 lbs. every year of my life. I’m 22 (-years old) now, you can do that math, about 220 (lbs.). Then, I hope it slows down about 23/24 (-years old), but yeah, I think I’ve been doing a good job just trying to continue to get strong and just continue to work as hard as I can.”(On how he seems more confident and comfortable)
“I think a lot of that has to do with the guys around me. I think we’ve done a good job offensively going from the install to on the field and being effective with it. I think that goes back to the coaches as well. Their ability to install and their ability to teach and coach us has been tremendous. It’s been a lot of fun learning with them and continuing to improve myself and the team as a whole.”(On what his ideal weight would be)
“That’s about it, 220 (lbs.).”(On how is workouts changed over the break)
“I think it was my first real offseason. Last year, you go straight from – or I guess it would be two years ago – you go straight from your college summer, into your season and then as soon as that’s over, you’re into combine training which is completely different than an offseason training. And it’s no different for me than any other second-year guy, so it’s been good. Getting to understand how an offseason works and how it feels, has been good.”(On if he feels like Head Coach Sean McVay is tough on him because he seems to be that way with the quarterbacks)
“I think he does a great job. I think he is tough at times, I think there’s other times where he knows how to handle a situation, but I’ve been very happy with the way that he’s coached me. I want him to be hard on me. I think I need it. I think that’s how I get better and continue to stay sharp.”(On if RB Todd Gurley has changed at all this offseason)
“I think him, like myself and like most of the team, we’re all maturing and we’re all growing up. I think him and myself have done a great job with that this offseason, and kind of coming into our own a little bit and understanding our role within the team and understanding our responsibility and how important everything is. I think he’s done a tremendous job in the offseason. Seeing him train – we did train together for a little bit. Seeing him train and how hard he’s taking everything and how serious he’s taking everything has been awesome. I expect him to have a great year. I think the best thing about him is how team-orientated he is. We could win every game, and he couldn’t have a touch – he wouldn’t really care. He wants to win the games and he wants to do whatever is best for the team and that’s my favorite part about him.”(On if he believes that Gurley can be an elite back in the league)
“Yes, I think he’s one of the best in the league. He’s done it in the past and I think he’ll prove it this year. I’m excited to see what he can do and I know he’s excited to show what he can do as well.”(On if he has a goal for growth and progress)
“I don’t know if there’s an exact point you put on it. I think you just continue to get better every day. You can’t take a day off. I thought there were some plays today where I wasn’t as sharp as I wanted to be and you can’t really allow that. You need to be sharp on every play or at least mentally sharp and know what you’re doing on every play. Sometimes daily, you don’t have that. I think if you get to the season and every single play is boom, boom, boom, boom all the way across, play-in and play-out, is when you kind of feel comfortable. I think we’re on our way there. I don’t think we’re there yet, but we’re on our way.”(On how much WRs Mike Thomas and Pharoh Cooper have grown)
“Tremendously. It’s the same type of thing that I was talking about with Todd. Maturity and continuing to grow. In talking about Mike, he’s kind of found a role for himself. He’s one of our faster receivers and can stretch the defense. I think he enjoys that role and understands that he’s going to be an over the top guy. It’s just a perfect role for him. Pharoh, in his own right, has his own role in the slot. He can find a hole in the defense and is smart, and just continue to grow into that role. I think they’re both continuing to grow and continuing to get better.”(On the long pass that Thomas dropped last season)
“I think you always want to let them know that you’re not going to stop throwing it to him. I think that’s what I told him. I don’t remember exactly. I’m going to throw picks, they’re going to have drops, we’re going to miss blocks, we’re going to drop balls – it’s going to happen, but you try to limit it. The only way you can get through it is to get to the next play and continue to improve. The faster you can get over something like that, the better you are.”(On where he expects to see the added weight help him on the field)
“Everywhere. I’ll give you an example. My freshman year to my sophomore year, I put on quite a few pounds. I kind of felt it in the pocket, the ability to kind of make one guy miss is a big deal. The ability to not get tackled by just a hand, by just a guy grabbing your jersey is a big deal. I think that’s where it will help the most.”(On if he thinks his arm is stronger)
“No, I don’t think so.”(On how difficult it was from the time McVay got hired to install a new system until now)
“I don’t think it was necessarily difficult. It’s part of the job. You have to learn the new system. I enjoyed it. I’ve enjoyed every day coming out here and learning with them. All the way back from when we started meeting with them to now – it’s been awesome. I’ve had a really good time learning it. I think I’ve picked it up at a pretty good pace. I like where we’re at right now. Obviously, a lot of stuff to improve on, especially from today. But again, I like where we’re at.”(On if it feels natural)
“Very natural. The offense is starting to become second-nature to not only myself, but I think to a lot of the guys on the team.”(On what he’s going to do over the break)
“I’ll be training. I’ve got two things planned. I’m going to have a camp at my high school coming up here soon. I’m going to play golf in Tahoe in the middle of July and that’s about it. Everything else will be down here training.”(On if his camp is up North)
“Yes, at my high school. Jared Goff Summer Classic, presented by Next Level. June 23-24. See you guys there. (laughs)”(On taking a lot of sacks toward the end of the season and if that made an extra incentive for him to add more weight)
“I’m good with what I weigh. I think I’ve been asked about my weight about six times today. I feel good with what I weigh and I don’t feel like last year had anything to do with it. I’m always trying to improve my weight, always trying to get heavier, always trying to get stronger, always trying to get faster. I don’t think any situation in particular prompts that, it’s just innate since I’ve been 12, I’ve been trying to continue to get stronger.”***
Rams RB Todd Gurley – June 13, 2017
(On the comfort he and his teammates have so early in Head Coach Sean McVay’s new system)
“It feels good. Like I said, just come out here every day, try to get better each day. I felt like we’ve been doing that, been able to put in a lot of the new system and we feel pretty comfortable with that. Coach does a great job of just giving us certain situations to deal with and handle and I felt like we’ve done a pretty good job.”(On how he’s changed physically)
“I don’t feel like I’ve physically changed. I’m healthy, so that’s a good thing. I’m just able to do everything and be out here with my teammates. I’m just happy to be able to do that.”(On if he’s added any additional weight)
“I did. Trying to get it back off though (laughs).”(On Coach McVay discussing the importance of putting him in the right position to have a season like his rookie year and the relationship they’re developing with one another in order to achieve that)
“Coach, he does a great job of just communicating. He knows this is a new system for us. So it’s not like he’s pressing us like, ‘C’mon man, just get it.’ He’s been taking it day-by-day with us as well. Just like at the end of the practice, just going through it, jogging through it. We don’t have to go full speed (on) everything. He just does a great job of just handling each situation well and communicating with us and making sure we know the scheme.”(On if he’s expecting to be targeted in the pass game on a regular basis during the regular season)
“Like I said, we’ll see what happens once the season comes. Like I said, I’m just doing what he calls on the script and just taking it day-by-day.”(On if he has a sense that the entire offense has picked things up well and why)
“It just goes back to the coaching. The coaches have been doing a great job. We’ve been in here four days a week and other guys have been putting in the extra time. So like I said, they’ve just done a very good job with us just being patient, the skill development, everything – just from Phase I, Phase II, Phase III – it’s just been day-by-day, piece-by-piece, and it’s just all kind of coming together slowly.”(On if he’s been able to completely put last season behind him and if he uses it as motivation)
“4-12 is definitely not the season (anyone) wants. I don’t really care about what I do individually. We probably wouldn’t have this discussion if we were 14-2 and I had 200 yards. It really doesn’t matter what I do or what anyone else does on this team. It’s about what we do as a team together.”(On how he evaluates the way he hit the holes last year that were open)
“The past is the past. We all put in great effort and tried to do what we tried to do. Things just didn’t work out for us eventually on gameday and we came up short a lot of times, too many times.”(On if this new offense changes things at all for him in terms of how he might he be set up to read blocks or hit holes or if it’s essentially the same with regards to what it asks him to do)
“I mean, I’m a runner. Not too many runs you can have. You’ve just got to go out there and, obviously, stay on your tracks, stay on your reads, read your course, but at the end of the day, running the ball is nothing new. The same game I’ve been playing the last 18 years, so just take it day-by-day. Once the game comes, we’ll figure all that out.”(On if things feel different and more stable at this point this year compared to last when the team was going through the relocation)
“Yeah, kind of, sort of. We’re all at the field, we’re all not just sitting up in the hotel for three, four months. So, it definitely feels a lot better just being able to get accustomed to the city, know where you’re going to be at. It’s definitely a lot better feeling and we feel a lot more comfortable. And just try to do our best to help out the rookies when they come in.”
znModerator1 little “fwiw” bit
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heard a lot about the WR’s in camp except Pharoh Cooper. It seems pretty quiet with him. Have you seen him much?Vincent Bonsignore @DailyNewsVinny
He’s definitely out there. But from what I’ve seen, other WR’s getting more targetsVincent
znModeratorfrom Rams hope exploiting mismatches springs Todd Gurley in 2017
By Gregg Rosenthal
THOUSAND OAKS, Calif. — Todd Gurley was easy to find last season: usually buried under the opposition a few yards ahead of the line of scrimmage. New Rams head coach Sean McVay is on a mission to make Gurley more difficult to locate.
The third-year running back moved around the offensive formation throughout the first day of Rams minicamp Tuesday. Occasionally, he lined up wide outside two receivers. On another snap, he motioned from out wide into the backfield before running a route in the other direction. He saw a lot of targets from quarterback Jared Goff in the passing game, often appearing to be the primary read.
A talented running back making noise as a receiver isn’t revolutionary in the year 2017, but the Rams did not run a modern offense last season, when Gurley picked up a paltry 3.2 yards per carry. McVay spoke Tuesday about defensive coordinator Wade Phillips’ standout ability to create mismatches, a trait that McVay shares. He wants to put his Rams players in better matchups than they were in a year ago. Gurley is doing his best to put last season behind him, even if the personal struggles of the former Offensive Rookie of the Year remain a sore spot.
“4-12 is definitely not the season anyone wants. I don’t really care about what I do individually,” Gurley said.
While that’s not necessarily what Gurley’s prospective fantasy football owners want to hear, he should be in a better position to succeed with a more flexible offense. The hope is that the Rams’ young cornerstones have grown up. Goff said that he and Gurley now have a better understanding about their roles and responsibilities on the team. Goff stressed the importance of being able to get past a bad play in practice or in games.
“The faster you can get over something like that, the better you are,” Goff said.
He may as well have been talking about the entire Rams 2016 season.
Happy returns
The best player in a Rams uniform Tuesday didn’t take a snap, yet he made the biggest news. Defensive tackle Aaron Donald, who had skipped all of OTAs, showed up for mandatory minicamp. He spent most of the session doing individual work and then sprinting under the California sun with a hoodie on. It appears unlikely that Donald will fully practice this week, but his presence signals there won’t be an acrimonious contract standoff. Donald’s big deal getting done is likely a matter of when, not if.
So what else mattered Tuesday?
Former No. 2 overall pick Greg Robinson appears to be an afterthought with this new Rams coaching staff. He was not taking snaps with the first or second team during minicamp Tuesday. Due $3.2 million this season, Robinson is a strong candidate to be released before the season.
znModeratorlink: http://www.ocregister.com/2017/06/13/aaron-donald-reports-to-rams-mini-camp-but-sits-out-drills/
FULL HOUSE
All 90 players on the Rams’ roster attended practice, although a few joined Donald in being held out of drills.
Linebacker Robert Quinn was on the field with heavy wrapping on his right thumb. McVay said Quinn recently underwent a minor surgical procedure but would be ready for the start of training camp in late July.
Receiver Tavon Austin, running back Lance Dunbar, linebacker Mark Barron, cornerback E.J. Gaines and offensive lineman Pace Murphy also did not participate in drills.
BOUNCING BACK
Midway through Tuesday’s practice, quarterback Jared Goff drew McVay’s ire when Goff — during an end-of-half drill — checked down to running back Todd Gurley, who was stopped short of the goalline. On the next two plays, Goff fired touchdown passes to receiver Cooper Kupp and tight end Tyler Higbee.
Goff had what seemed to be another solid day of practice and again drew praise from McVay. That doesn’t mean McVay, a former high school quarterback and NFL offensive coordinator, will be easy on Goff, but the quarterback said he welcomes criticism from his coach.
“I think he does a great job,” Goff said. “I think he’s tough at times. There’s other times when he knows how to handle the situation (differently), but I’ve been very happy with the way he has coached me. I want him to be hard on me. I think I need it, and I think that’s how I get better and continue to stay sharp.”
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znModeratorAaron Donald reports to Rams mini-camp, but sits out drills
By RICH HAMMOND
link: http://www.ocregister.com/2017/06/13/aaron-donald-reports-to-rams-mini-camp-but-sits-out-drills/
THOUSAND OAKS — He didn’t make it easy. Aaron Donald slowly prowled around the Cal Lutheran practice field, clad in camouflage workout pants with a sweatshirt hood over his head.
Donald showed up, though, and that’s what mattered most to the Rams on Tuesday.
There’d been question whether Donald, the star defensive tackle who is in the middle of new-contract negotiations, would attend this week’s mandatory mini-camp or skip it, as he did with all 10 of the Rams’ optional OTA practices in May and June.
Donald was on the field with teammates for Tuesday’s 90-minute practice but did not participate in position or full-team drills. The Rams did not make Donald available to reporters, and Coach Sean McVay said he hadn’t decided whether Donald would join team drills in practice on Wednesday or Thursday. Donald watched all of practice and did conditioning drills on the side with coaches.
“He has really kept up with what is going on mentally,” McVay said. “He’s such a sharp, natural football player. He kind of made a seamless transition with the walk-through, and it’s great to have him back here with his teammates.”
It’s been a while. Donald, a Pro Bowl selection in each of his first three seasons, attended all of the Rams’ offseason workouts in April and May until OTA practices started last month. Donald missed three weeks of on- and off-field work, and the Rams confirmed it was related to contract matters.
McVay said Tuesday he had no news on the status of negotiations but described Donald as being in a “good place” mentally, in terms of Donald’s relationship with the team. Donald faced a possible fine of $80,000 if he missed this week’s mini-camp.
“Getting him here today, it was great to be able to talk to him face to face,” McVay said. “He’s been taking great care of himself. And he loves football. I think we all want to come to a resolution. We feel great about what Aaron has done for this organization and we’re optimistic about what’s to come.”
McVay and the Rams expressed support for Donald throughout his OTA absence, but clearly they’d like to get him on the field as much as possible. The Rams, and coordinator Wade Phillips, are installing a totally new defense in 2017, and Donald is the star and anchor of that unit.
The issue with Donald’s absence isn’t so much Donald, who is known as a smart player who keeps himself in great shape, but with his teammates, who need to know exactly how to work with Donald in the new defense. McVay said he wasn’t worried that the Rams’ defense would be set back.
“With some of the resources we do have at our disposal, you’re able to still access some of the film,” McVay said of Donald. “He’s such a conscientious player that I think he’s one of the few players who, you do feel good about his ability to get up to speed in a quick manner. He’s a guy that is such a natural football player, the game comes simple to him. That’s not something we’re too concerned about.”
znModeratorRams Begin Three-Day Minicamp
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Los Angeles began its mandatory minicamp on Tuesday afternoon, a wrap-up of Sean McVay’s first offseason program as the Rams’ head coach.
“I think when you really look at it, [minicamp is] very similar to the OTA structure other than the fact that it’s mandated and we get a little more time with the walk-thru and then we’ll come out for practice,” McVay said. “But getting through the OTAs and kind of Phase I and Phase II, now this kind of represents the culmination of our offseason program.”
While the earlier portions of the Rams’ offseason program were voluntary, as McVay said, this three-day session is not. And the list of attendees includes defensive tackle Aaron Donald, who was not present for the 10 Rams OTAs the past three weeks. Donald, however, did attend earlier portions of Los Angeles’ offseason program, including the voluntary minicamp at the end of April.
“It’s great to have Aaron here,” McVay said. “He’s really kept up with what’s going on mentally — such a sharp, natural football player. Kind of made a seamless transition with the walk-thru. And it’s great to have him back here around his teammates.”
McVay said there is no update on Donald’s contract status, though it remains clear that the team would like to get a deal done.
“I think we all want to come to a resolution, and we feel great about what Aaron’s done for this organization. And we’re optimistic about what’s to come,” McVay said.
Donald did not participate in practice, though McVay mentioned he was a part of the team’s walk-thru earlier in the day. The defensive tackle did some conditioning work on the side during practice.
“With him not being here, wanted to just make sure that he’s in great shape — like we know he is — but be smart about the way we give him those reps,” McVay said. “And he’s done a nice job so far today.”
There is a possibility Donald could become a full participant in subsequent practices this week, which McVay said the club will likely determine Tuesday evening.
Still, the team is not concerned about Donald being behind when it comes to learning the new scheme. McVay sounded like he knew Donald had been studying film and working out while he was away in order to stay in shape mentally and physically.
“I think certainly you want your guys here and there’s a lot of information that’s given,” McVay said. “But with some of the resources we do have at our disposal where you’re able to do some things away and still access some of the film, he’s such a conscientious player that I think he’s one of the players that you do feel good about his ability to be able to get up to speed in a quick manner.
“You certainly would love to have those guys here, but with Aaron, he’s such a natural football player, I think the game comes simple to him,” McVay added. “So that’s not something we’re too concerned about.”
Elsewhere along the defensive front seven, outside linebacker Robert Quinn has been sidelined for minicamp by what McVay termed a minor procedure on his hand.
“When you look at it, what he’s done this offseason, the way he’s competed, it was a situation where we were able to get it addressed so that it’s going to be fixed,” McVay said. “He’s going to be fully ready to roll for camp.”
As for what happened on the field, the Rams were able to get in solid work for their first practice of the week. Quarterback Jared Goff delivered a number of strong throws, particularly when the offense was in the red zone. McVay said he’s seen the quarterback come along well in the last few weeks since starting the offseason program.
And so these three days of practice will be important to leave a lasting positive impression for the club’s time off before training camp.
“We get a chance to hit all our situations. The majority of our offensive and defensive systems are in place,” McVay said. “And I think [minicamp] gives us a chance to really get a good evaluation before we get on break and kind of see where we’re at and what we need to really address going forward into training camp.”
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