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    NFC West Q&A: What are realistic expectations for Jared Goff in Year 2?

    Alden Gonzalez

    http://www.espn.com/blog/los-angeles-rams/post/_/id/34143/nfc-west-qa-what-are-realistic-expectations-for-jared-goff-in-year-2

    The Los Angeles Rams traded up last year to take quarterback Jared Goff No. 1 overall, but they weren’t expecting a superstar.

    At least not yet.

    They simply need him to take care of the football and be enough of a downfield threat that defenses aren’t stacking the box so aggressively to stop running back Todd Gurley.

    It’s reasonable to expect improvement from Goff, but those expectations must be tempered. His numbers through seven games — 54.6 completion percentage, 5.3 yards per attempt, 22.9 Total QBR — were dreadful. And though a lot of the blame can be directed at an inadequate offensive line and an uninspiring group of receivers, Goff himself showed he has a long way to go. He needs to make better reads, be more accurate and have a better feel in the pocket.

    The Rams have turned over their coaching staff, adding Sean McVay and a collection of coaches with a history of helping quarterbacks succeed. So, what are realistic expectations for Goff in Year 2?

    Josh Weinfuss, Arizona Cardinals reporter: There’s nowhere to go but up, right? It’s silly not to expect Goff to make significant strides between Years 1 and 2, when most players have their biggest growth. Developing quarterbacks, especially rookies, is tough in this era of the collective bargaining agreement, when interaction with coaches is so limited. And it didn’t help Goff last year that he didn’t start until Week 11. In theory, starting him in Week 1 would’ve given him the chance to get fully baptized by the fire of the NFL. Or he should’ve sat his entire rookie season and learned that way, as Carson Palmer did in 2003. His growth may have been stunted by playing in only seven games. After a full offseason to work on his own game while learning an entirely new scheme — possibly one he can contribute to molding — more growth should be expected from him. I’m not projecting him to be a Pro Bowler in Year 2, but I think he’ll show more of why he was the No. 1 pick.

    Nick Wagoner, San Francisco 49ers reporter: Well, for his sake, the first expectation should be that he can spend more time upright and scanning the field before throwing than he did as a rookie. The signing of tackle Andrew Whitworth should help in that regard, but the Rams still have major questions at three other spots on the line. The Rams also continued to add receiving options for Goff, which was something they lacked when they drafted him. There still isn’t a No. 1 wideout here, but a few reliable ones are better than none. The addition of McVay should be even better for Goff’s future. The quarterback had little chance to live up to his draft status under former coach Jeff Fisher and his antiquated offensive scheme, but McVay looks to be at the complete opposite end of that spectrum. That’s not to say he will turn Goff into a superstar. But if Goff is going to develop at all, McVay seems capable of pulling whatever the quarterback has out of him. I wouldn’t expect Goff to magically become a Pro Bowler in Year 2, but a step forward to something closer to league average or slightly below is reasonable.

    Sheil Kapadia, Seattle Seahawks reporter: Periods of competency. That may sound harsh, but as mentioned, Goff’s rookie debut was terrible. He averaged 3.77 yards per dropback, which would have been the worst mark in the league had he qualified with enough starts. As a point of reference, among qualifying quarterbacks, Brock Osweiler ranked last and even he averaged 5.26 yards per dropback. No passing game in the NFL was less efficient than the Rams’. It’s completely fair to point out that Goff wasn’t given a ton of help from the coaching staff or his supporting cast, but at no time last season did he look the part of a No. 1 overall pick. There will be struggles and inconsistencies in 2017, but if Goff can show flashes of upside with a new coaching staff, that will at least give Rams fans hope for the future.

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    offensive line only as good as the weakest link.

    at least that’s what they say.

    I actually don’t think that’s the case. On a line, you can cover up for a player in any number of ways, especially a right OT. I think lines are more than the sum of their parts. Their coherence as a group matters more than their individual scouting reports.

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    <b>Did you know that before 1973 it was illegal in the US to profit off of health care. The Health Maintenance Organization Act of 1973 passed by Nixon changed everything.</b>

    http://investmentwatchblog.com/did-you-know-that-before-1973-it-was-illegal-in-the-us-to-profit-off-of-health-care-the-health-maintenance-organization-act-of-1973-passed-by-nixon-changed-everything/

    Is the health insurance business a racket? Yes, literally. And this is why the shameless pandering to robber baron corporations posing as “health providers” is such an egregious … and obvious … tactic to do nothing more than plump up insurance company profits.

    And do you know who’s to blame? Believe it or not, the downfall of the American health insurance system falls squarely on the shoulders of former President Richard M. Nixon.

    In 1973, Nixon did a personal favor for his friend and campaign financier, Edgar Kaiser, then president and chairman of Kaiser-Permanente. Nixon signed into law, the Health Maintenance Organization Act of 1973, in which medical insurance agencies, hospitals, clinics and even doctors, could begin functioning as for-profit business entities instead of the service organizations they were intended to be. And which insurance company got the first taste of federal subsidies to implement HMOA73 … *gasp* … why, it was Kaiser-Permanente! What are the odds? It’s all right here to read for yourself.

    And to perfectly cement HMOA73 as the profiteering boondoggle that it actually was, the law Nixon mandated also included clauses that encouraged medical providers to not CURE afflictions, but to PROLONG them by only treating the symptoms. There’s no money to be made in CURING sickness. But the sky’s the limit when it comes to forcing people to endure repetitive doctor visits, endless (and often useless and redundant) tests, and … of course … let’s not forget the ever-increasing demand for American-made prescription drugs!

    Have you noticed recently that the words “prolonged coma” and DEATH have wormed their way into the fast-spoken side-effects list of just about every new drug you see on television or hear on the radio? Death! From the medicine that’s supposed to cure you! You know what? I’ll take restless legs over DEATH.

    So it’s an arms race between insurers, who deploy software and manpower trying to find claims they can reject, and doctors and hospitals, who deploy their own forces in an effort to outsmart or challenge the insurers. And the cost of this arms race ends up being borne by the public, in the form of higher health care prices and higher insurance premiums. Of course, rejecting claims is a clumsy way to deny coverage. The best way for an insurer to avoid paying medical bills is to avoid selling insurance to people who really need it. An insurance company can accomplish this in two ways, through marketing that targets the healthy, and through underwriting: Rejecting the sick or charging them higher premiums. See the pattern?

    Skyrocketing health care costs: Thanks President Nixon!

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    A discussion from another board, which fits here too.

    They *think* they Hav will work at guard.

    There are many, many examples in the history of pro sports of coaches *wishing* for outcomes that never happen…. so, this “they know” meme should be put to rest right now.

    They think. They hope.

    They don’t *know* it will work out.

    ME: No it’s beyond “they think, they hope.” It’s more than that.

    And at this stage it is rarely ever “they know” with any coach with any player. Heck from that point of view there are no guarantees at this stage about Whitworth, either. So I didn’t SAY “they KNOW.” I said they know more than us about Hav at guard, at this stage. Any doubts we have, logic just says they have seen those potential issues and accounted for them.

    It’s not a matter of claiming THEY KNOW. So I didn’t say THEY KNOW in some sort of absolute way.

    It;s a matter of benefit of the doubt AT THIS STAGE. And that’s relative. Way I see it, Kromer has already started a tallish guard in his career (Kyle Long) and it worked out. At the time, before the season, it caused controversy, because a lot of the same questions came up, and people were wondering why Kromer “undervalued” Long (scare quote not a quotation). The idea was, you put more valued athletes at tackle, not guard. Kromer had to explain and did.

    Bears’ new line: Guards valued over tackles
    Kromer installing Saints philosophy that protection starts from inside out

    May 09, 2013
    Dan Pompei

    http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-05-09/sports/ct-spt-0510-pompei-column-bears-chicago-20130510_1_aaron-kromer-saints-bears

    For Bears, guards are the new tackles

    New Bears offensive coordinator Aaron Kromer emphasizes the interior of his offensive line over the bookend tackle spots, the more traditional “premium” spots in the trenches. What does this mean for the Bears and specifically some of their draft picks?

    May 13, 2013

    http://www.windycitygridiron.com/2013/5/13/4325402/chicago-bears-guards-new-tackles-offensive-line-aaron-kromer

    Am I worried? No. I give them a lot more benefit of the doubt on this than you seem to, largely because of track record. Is that a guarantee? Of course not. Could it end up not working? Sure. But I think their reasoning and their experience justifies me giving them a lot of benefit of the doubt at this point.

    It’s more than just Long. Since New Orleans in 2009, he has always had top guards. Even Incognito in Buffalo played better than he ever had before. Same with Slausen in Chicago,.

    So all I am personally doing with this is pretty much the same that most of us also do with McVay. Can McVay get something out of TEs? Yes his history says that. How does he do with qbs? The rise of Cousins suggests he does quite well. Is any of that a guarantee? No, not at all. Well Kromer has a longer history of success with guards than McVay does with skill players and qbs. So I give McVay the benefit of the doubt till I see otherwise, and same with Kromer.

    So it;s just a difference of opinion as to how much benefit of the doubt we give Kromer. You less, me more. Both of us still basically end up saying, well we’ll see, it’s still early, who knows for sure.

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    https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/healthcare/news/2017/06/22/434917/coverage-losses-senate-health-care-bill-result-18100-27700-additional-deaths-2026/

    Our data estimates show that under any of the scenarios we analyzed, a significant number of American lives are at stake in this debate.

    New England Journal of Medicine: http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMsb1706645#t=article

    the data suggest that policies that reduce coverage will produce significant harms to health, particularly among people with lower incomes and chronic conditions.

    New study finds 45,000 deaths annually linked to lack of health coverage

    “The uninsured have a higher risk of death when compared to the privately insured, even after taking into account socioeconomics, health behaviors, and baseline health,” said lead author Andrew Wilper, M.D., who currently teaches at the University of Washington School of Medicine. “We doctors have many new ways to prevent deaths from hypertension, diabetes, and heart disease — but only if patients can get into our offices and afford their medications.”

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    ‘Most Sinister’ Propaganda: Examining The NRA’s Ominous New Ad

    ‘Most Sinister’ Propaganda: Examining The NRA’s Ominous New Ad

    A new advertisement put out by the National Rifle Association — which calls on conservatives to fight the left with a “clenched fist of truth” — has the Women’s March demanding an apology, activists calling it an “open call to violence” and a propaganda expert labeling the video “sinister.”

    The video, which was published on the NRA’s Facebook page on June 12, begins with talk radio host Dana Loesch criticizing the media and the way liberals use it to “assassinate real news.” It calls out liberals in the public school system for teaching “children that their president is another Hitler,” Hollywood for progressing “their narrative” and for using their “ex-President to endorse the resistance.”

    Loesch goes on to say all these venues are a means to create reasons for protest, “to scream racism and sexism and xenophobia and homophobia. To smash windows, burn cars, shut down interstates and airports, bully and terrorize the law abiding,” all said alongside video clips of people marching and exhibiting violent behavior.

    “The only way we stop this, the only way we save our country and our freedom is to fight this violence of lies with a clenched first of truth,” she said, closing out the advertisement saying, “I’m the National Riffle Association of American and I’m freedom’s safest place.”

    A New York University professor, whose research has focused on modern propaganda, called the video irresponsible and said he could “safely say the (video) is a textbook example of propaganda.”

    “It’s actually an example of propaganda when it’s most sinister,” Mark Crispin Miller of NYU told TPM. “It’s extremely hostile, takes a dark view of dissonance and protest and lauds the police as our only protection against this unprecedented threat.”

    The advertisement takes on the classic method of creating a “they” mentality, he said, while saluting police power.

    “What it basically does is create this nightmarish image of an all-powerful ‘they,’ which would be protesters, it would be Democrats and liberals and Hollywood, the media. They’re all the same, one big monolithic entity and the goal of that entity is to destroy not just the Trump presidency, but the whole country,” he said. “The images suggest chaos and violence and brutality by an undifferentiated mass of malicious actors. … It’s aimed at resentful denizens of ‘fly-over states.’ It suggests that there’s a kind of malevolent group that’s in control of everything and trying to destroy the rest of us, the good people and our president.”

    While Miller called the video a “sinister” form of propaganda, Paul Baines, a professor of political marketing at Crainfield School of Management in the UK who studies propaganda from terrorist groups like ISIS and Al Qaeda, said the advertisement was “weak propaganda” and a potentially “dangerous” method for building up the NRA’s membership.

    “It’s weak in terms of its fervor. ISIS uses a similar approach, reduces the world into a binary place where the alternative is disgusting and they tend to dehumanize the others. … It potentially is dangerous if they move down that avenue. It could incite members to respond to the far left with agitation. It’s not particularly clever to build up membership in this way because it could cause sufficient concern, where people could follow through with this message and create problems,” Baines said. “These (groups) often use a fear-based appeal. … That in itself is problematic. They’re essentially saying, ‘the far left is causing problems and the only thing you can do to save yourself is to buy a gun. The only way to reduce this fear is buy a gun.’”

    The Women’s March group, which organized a massive protest in Washington after President Donald Trump was inaugurated, sent a letter to NRA CEO Wayne LaPierre, calling on the organization to “immediately remove the recent irresponsible and dangerous propaganda videos” and issue an apology for the advertisement that “suggests armed violence against communities of color, progressives and anyone who does not agree with the (Trump) administration’s policies.”

    The advertisement comes as groups across the U.S. have called out the NRA for not making a statement about the not guilty verdict for the Minnesota police office who killed Philando Castille, a gun owner who was reaching to show an officer his gun registration when he was shot.

    The message behind the video was disturbing enough to push politicians and activists to tweet about the video, with Sen. Chris Murphy saying he thinks “the NRA is telling people to shoot us” and Black Leaves Matter leader Deray McKesson calling it an “open call to violence to protect white supremacy.”

    Chris Murphy ✔ @ChrisMurphyCT
    I think the @NRA is telling people to shoot us.

    Now might be the right time to cancel your membership.

    deray mckesson ✔ @deray
    This NRA ad is an open call to violence to protect white supremacy. If I made a video like this, I’d be in jail.

    And while some are outraged by the video, Jonathan Auerbach, who teaches English at the University of Maryland and is a co-author of “Weapons of Democracy: Propaganda, Progressivism and American Public Opinion,” called the video “pretty standard” for a group like NRA.

    “(It’s a) routine example of propaganda designed to recruit new members by rousing indignation against a perceived enemy,” he told TPM in an email. “Not especially innovative or nuanced, but perhaps effective for a brief clip since (there’s) no need to address the substance of ‘the enemy’s accusations.”

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    Naturally I want to see certain things from him first before I sign on the dotted line, but, I like Goff and what I think he can do.

    i’ll also say this. in 2017 goff’s supporting cast will be better than anything bradford had the luxury of playing with.

    if i’m wrong i’m wrong.

    My main thing to look for is effectiveness in comeback situations.

    I don’t know about that yet. But, my bet is Goff will show stuff this year and you won’t be wrong.

    ..

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    On Thursday’s Infowars broadcast, Steele alleged the kidnapped children were not only being kidnapped for space labor, but also murdered for their blood and bone marrow.

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    goff should be at least better than decent.

    Naturally I want to see certain things from him first before I sign on the dotted line, but, I like Goff and what I think he can do.

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    and so it may be true that kromer needs havenstein at guard more than brown, but it may also be true that brown is just a better prospect than rob as a tackle.

    Interesting thought.

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    link: http://www.ocregister.com/2017/06/29/aaron-donald-mum-on-contract-talks-but-is-quick-to-praise-rams-new-coaches/

    ALL OR NOTHING’ ON AMAZON

    Donald also is one of the stars of the eight-part documentary series “All or Nothing: A Season with the Los Angeles Rams,” which will be available on Amazon Prime Video on Friday.

    The series, in a way, is continuation of the “Hard Knocks” series that covered Rams training camp and aired on HBO last August. The NFL Films crew continued to follow the players, coaches and staff members and received behind-the-scenes access to on- and off-field moments.

    Arguably the most compelling moments of the series involve former Coach Jeff Fisher. The cameras were running on Dec. 12 when Fisher was fired, and much of one episode is dedicated to Fisher breaking that news to his fellow coaches and Rams players.

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    Aaron Donald mum on contract talks, but is quick to praise Rams’ new coaches

    RICH HAMMOND

    link: http://www.ocregister.com/2017/06/29/aaron-donald-mum-on-contract-talks-but-is-quick-to-praise-rams-new-coaches/

    SANTA MONICA – Aaron Donald seems pleased. The star defensive tackle increasingly is a part of the Southern California community, his kids are enjoying swim classes and he has effusive praise for the Rams’ new coaches.

    There’s only one sure way to quiet Donald: Ask him about his new contract, or lack thereof.

    Donald’s contract with the Rams doesn’t expire until after the 2018 season, but extension negotiations have started. Donald raised some eyebrows in May and June when he skipped a portion of the Rams’ (optional) offseason program due to the contract issue, but he did attend a mandatory mini-camp two weeks ago.

    Donald and Rams running back Todd Gurley volunteered on Thursday at a YMCA conditioning camp sponsored by Gatorade. In his first public comments since April, Donald smiled but deflected multiple questions about his contract situation and his mindset regarding it.

    “I’m just doing my job and keeping myself how I’m supposed to keep myself, and just let that stuff handle itself,” Donald said at University High. “It’s a fun game, but a serious business at the end of the day.”

    Asked about taking care of himself, in the context of the team’s offseason work, Donald grinned and said, “I’ve got two kids.”

    Asked later, in a radio interview, if he would confirm whether he will attend the start of Rams training camp next month if he doesn’t have a new contract, Donald gave a brief, general answer about getting ready for the start of the season. Donald’s current deal calls for a base salary of $1.8 million in 2017 and $6.9 million in 2018.

    Donald had effusive praise for new Rams coach Sean McVay (a former offensive coordinator) and veteran defensive coordinator Wade Phillips. Multiple times he praised McVay’s intelligence and relayed a story from early in the Rams’ offseason program.

    “I was itching my head about a play, a defensive play, and he came to me and said, ‘You’ve got to do this, this and this,’” Donald said. “I said, ‘Wow.’ I’ve never had a coach who knew what was going on on the offensive side of the ball and the defensive side of the ball. He knows every single trick on both sides of the ball. He’s definitely a smart guy. There’s going to be a lot of good things coming.

    “Wade is just … everybody knows Wade. I’m excited just to have the opportunity to be around the guy and learn from him.”

    ‘ALL OR NOTHING’ ON AMAZON

    Donald also is one of the stars of the eight-part documentary series “All or Nothing: A Season with the Los Angeles Rams,” which will be available on Amazon Prime Video on Friday.

    The series, in a way, is continuation of the “Hard Knocks” series that covered Rams training camp and aired on HBO last August. The NFL Films crew continued to follow the players, coaches and staff members and received behind-the-scenes access to on- and off-field moments.

    Arguably the most compelling moments of the series involve former Coach Jeff Fisher. The cameras were running on Dec. 12 when Fisher was fired, and much of one episode is dedicated to Fisher breaking that news to his fellow coaches and Rams players.

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    I also, think we may go wrong with ‘philosophical answers to big questions’ as you point out — but i still think its fine and dandy to have…oh….a meta-vision or grand unifying vision BASED on core values like ‘democracy,’ ‘love,’ ‘compassion’,
    ‘fairness,’ ‘critical thinking,’ ‘tolerance,’ ‘equality,’ etc.

    Those values can kinda create a rough, nebulous, vison. Which is different than a ‘dogmatic philosophical answer.’ The vision is more like a guiding star. A direction. A leaning toward the light kinda thing.

    I agree with all that. In fact you put it well.

    .i would also say, Corporate-Capitalism [is] where we start. And probly finish.

    I don’t agree with that though. I also think acting like that’s true can be self-defeating.

    But again this ain’t dogmatic, so I am not saying “don’t say or think those things.”

    I just assume the process is based on multiple dialogues so all positions have to be said as part of the ongoing thing of thinking it through.

    So for example it took 2 people to get even this far.

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    Since I’ve known you, you have never said anything like “I like capitalism” or “I dont like capitalism” — What can you say about what you think about ‘Capitalism’.

    Say…’something‘.

    At this point, capitalism exists.

    It however can’t be allowed to run things because that’s purely undemocratic. Right now it runs things. Will capitalism change? Most likely. Can it be altered, limited, modified, transformed into something else and better? Yes that’s possible. What keeps it in place as it is, is beliefs.

    I can never really make sense of what you mean when you talk about not liking ‘philosophical’ answers to ‘big questions.’ I wish you could put that another way. What is a ‘philosophical answer to a big question’? Give me an example.

    It;s just a contrast between looking at things historically, which accounts for messiness and contradictions and paradoxes and for concrete practical reality, and idealism (in the philosophical sense) or essentialism (either term really), which deduces things just based on ideas.

    So for example, essentialism: since religion is lies, if we get religion out of social and public life, it will improve people. That’s a social engineering idea. Thinking about political life solely in terms of big rational ideas of justice or good is social engineering; in turn, social engineering is always based on someone’s arm chair ideas of what people are and how they can turned into what they should be instead. So another term for all this is “dogma.”

    So for example in the French Revolution the Jacobins replaced Christianity with worship of the Supreme Being, a rational and deistic idea of proper spiritual belief. Result: old religion didn’t go away, it just lurked in opposition, because people don’t abandon beliefs that define them if you simply impose systematic social structures on them from the outside. So, there was chaos, the terror, the regime was always unstable, and it ended up leading to a military dictatorship (Napoleon). Napoleon, ironically, was just fine with Catholicism because it kept the masses in line. So the Jacobins were not wrong about religion making people non-revolutionary, but they tried to fix it through dogmatically imposed social engineering.

    Lesson: if you dictate systematic changes from the top down that are based solely on principles of reason, you just end up creating another monstrosity.

    Practical solution: there is no general, overall practical solution, those are always rooted in time and place. So in case of the French Revoluion, you don’t attack religion, you declare religious freedom generally, ally with what is practically speaking useful in existing religious belief (charity? hey good idea!), leave it alone, but exclude it from matters of state, law, economic policy, and any form of public administration.

    The problem? Reason said destroy traditional religion and replace it with something that is more directly in keeping with the aims of the Jacobion revolutionary state, because that way everyone becomes better citizens, “better citizens” also being something defined by reason.

    But history is messy and never does what reason says it should or ought to.

    What does aligning with history mean? You do what is practically possible and necessary to achieve things organically in the name of sound political principles.

    And, practically speaking, that means you have to choose which people you can never appeal to, and find ways to end-run them without The Terror or genocide. So practically speaking, there are racists, and you defeat them politically and keep them out of power. But you don’t start executing them in mass, like they did with the guillotine in The Terror.

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    I read the none of the coaches moved their families to LA.

    My view? They could not coach and move an entire team at the same time while handling personal stuff too.

    If 2016 had gone okay chances are the families move later.

    But then to me the move itself was one of the many reasons 2016 did not work out.

    A lot of those coaches have new jobs all over the country. Did they move their families for those new jobs?

    I do know that Fisher spent a lot of time on the new stadium issues and on the move. He was distracted and spread thin. That probably did not help anything. He himself has said that he probably should have delegated a lot of that.

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    Well what would your broad definition be?

    I wish we had not lost the old board because there was a time when I worked hard on defining that.

    One principle is this though.

    Someone on the left will see economic policy as subject to public interests, not just as some natural or inevitable outgrowth of the market. The market itself is not free exchange but regulated exchange (the free market is what you see in The Road Warrior). The question then, once you acknowledge that, is to regulate markets in such a way that they support a democratic society and public good.

    To some that’s “abolish all capitalism.”

    To some that’s “Norway does it right.” (Social democracy.)

    There are other approaches to that whole question.

    So for example, absolutely, in practical terms, you can’t have the financial center controlling the society (Citizens United) and there is no defensible good reason to make something like health insurance a private, for profit enterprise. (We can all think of other things.)

    Okay that;’s just ONE thing. Now that I have tried to be general (defining state borders) let me speak for me now. I always have one big qualification: as a leftist I believe in history which means, among other things, that philosophical answers to big questions are as often as not going to be too narrowly rigid. History consists of contradictory competing patterns, not simple problems or solutions. So for example, the corporate world is not one thing. Many powerful american corporations criticize Trump’s attack on the Paris climate agreement. That doesn’t make them good guys, just as a good king doesn’t make monarchy reasonable. But it;s also true that the corporate world is not one thing when it comes to climate change.

    To put this another way,. to me there cannot be a dogmatically predetermined answer to the issue of economic policy. That would be because reason isn’t sufficient to sit down and come up with a realistic and workable “plan” to fix all that with one big embracing systematic change. We have far more examples of large scale, pre-determined rational ideas for “fixing society” going very, very wrong (including, say, The French Revolution) than we have of humans actually pulling that off. Reason cannot accomplish this. It just can’t.

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    I dont like the idea of poisoning things. Plus, what if they die out in the open and the crows and ravens eat the poisoned rats?

    A cat isn’t a possibility?

    There are also substances that smell like predators to certain animals and drive them away.

    https://www.amazon.com/Shake-Away-Natural-Rodent-Repellent-Moles/dp/B00VIK79CI/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1498754710&sr=8-4&keywords=Rat+repellent

    Scroll down and look at all the similar products on the page and see if any of it makes sense.

    There’s customer reviews of course and other ways of using the net to research these products.

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    Actually as a leftist I don’t accept her definition of what a leftist is. I think it’s too strict and narrow.

    I think that in the big aggregate of generally allied views that exist on the left, hers is certainly one.

    I don’t think it is THE one. I think it’s one among others.

    When I try to define the left, I try to draw a sort of line designating where people with a lot of different (and even competing) views can exist. It seems to me that some people I read try to define the left in a way that gives a specific street address. I try to define it by saying here are the state borders, like Maine’s border with New Hampshire, and within that state there are lots of towns and cities and villages and streets and roads and different addresses, and in fact some people live in more than one.

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    I have also ingested molecules from the singularity that expanded during the big bang fourteen billion years ago.

    Well technically every molecule in existence derives from the big bang, or rather from the results of the big bang (but not from the singularity that caused it, cause that singularity existed before molecules did). It actually took a few hundred thousand years for atoms to even exist, and molecules of course came later.

    See this is the thing. If you’re going to be so free with your opinions of the Rams on a dedicated Rams board, you should at least know a little something about them.

    http://www.haystack.mit.edu/edu/pcr/Astrochemistry/3%20-%20MATTER/nuclear%20synthesis.pdf

    In the very beginning, both space and time were created in the Big Bang. It
    happened 13.7 billion years ago. Afterwards, the universe was a very hot,
    expanding soup of fundamental particles. The universe expanded rapidly
    during inflation and expands at a more or less constant rate now. As it
    grows, it cools.
    At first, the universe was dominated by radiation. Soon, quarks combined
    together to form baryons (protons and neutrons). When the universe was 3
    minutes old, it had cooled enough for these protons and neutrons to combine
    into nuclei. This is known as the time of nucleosynthesis. Hydrogen,
    helium, lithium, and beryllium were produced. Today, about 90% of the
    universe is still hydrogen. Remember that only the nuclei of these atoms
    were created at this time. The universe was still far too hot to allow these
    nuclei to attract electrons and form atoms. That didn’t happen for another
    300,000 years, at the time of recombination.

    At this time the universe had cooled sufficiently for atoms to exist. Echoes
    from these first atoms can still be seen in the Cosmic Microwave
    Background.

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    GreatRamNTheSky wrote:

    Attended screening of All or Nothing LA Rams

    They screened the 1st episode of this new series about the 2016 Rams last night at the Los Angeles Athletic Club. It was about 30 minutes and frankly the language is pretty salty. They don’t bleep anything out. Its very well done as it is NFL Films.

    For me personally it was interesting because there are some appearances by Rams fans I know from Bring Back The Los Angeles Rams. That made it fun.
    However rehashing a losing season is not my cup of tea.

    I would recommend you getting Amazon Prime and watching the series though it looks very good.

    What about the Athletic Club? The place looks like your classical Old Money Hangout. Plush to the max in a 1930s way. Beautiful like a mansion that a Rockefeller would have owned. Every floor is plush. The stair cases are plush and carpeted. Wood on all the walls. Mirrors all over the place. Huge conference rooms, huge banquet rooms, Outstanding looking bars that a President would drink in.

    The free beer was flowing. The free horderves was flowing. Large schrimp, broiled chicken on a stick, small shredded beef sandwhiches, small enough to fit two in your hand. And they had a cash bar for the hard stuff.

    Wall to wall Rams fans wearing their jerseys.

    . This was for fun, pure and simple. I received and invite from ESPN LA and decided why the hell not? It might be a blast and it was.

    The whole series is produced by NFL Films and other then coaches and players dropping F-bombs all over the place, if you watched Hard Knocks last summer this is kind of like Hard Knocks on steroids. There is a lot of good in game action stuff to watch. CLOSE UP and personal you see the grimaces on the face of Todd Gurley as he’s getting smacked around by the Seattle Seahawks in the Coliseum. Its great theater but there is no real added insight in my opinion. I may watch the series then again I may not. I have access to Amazon Prime and the series premiers tomorrow June 30th. But like I told friends of mine in attendance Tuesday night. I don’t relish rehashing a losing season.

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    Frankly, every remaining player on offense “needs to play better” not just Gurley.

    I disagree but of course not by much.

    Gurley did perform poorly last year and it wasn’t just him dealing with a poor OL. It was him too. That includes the 1st 4 games where they were 3-1 and Keenum was playing well enough to win and the D was finishing games.

    The word is (and Gurley kind of indirectly admitted it) he did not dedicate himself to the off-season in 2016 the way he did in 2015, and that would include physical work and (from what I saw) not knowing the offense. Gurley has to change. He is one of the few players on offense who if he played the way he can improves things for everyone else. Instead last year I saw him blaming everyone else when in fact word is in LA he let the big city tempt him and did not work the way he should…then yeah got frustrated on top of it.

    Gurley aside, a lot, lot, lot, lot went wrong last year. It’s a very long list. Including things that never get talked about.

    Like this. The move.

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    RAMS LB BARWIN EXCITED TO PLAY UNDER PHILLIPS AGAIN
    The Rams signed Barwin this offseason, reuniting him with his former coach from his Texans days.

    MIKE CAHILL

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-rams-lb-barwin-excited-to-play-under-phillips-again/

    New Los Angeles Rams LB Connor Barwin told the Los Angeles Times Tuesday he couldn’t be in a better position than playing 3-4 OLB under Wade Phillips after transitioning to a 4-3 DE in 2016.
    Barwin’s lowest-graded season came after switching to a 4-3 DE in 2016. In his two highest-graded seasons (2013-2014) he played 272 fewer snaps as a down lineman than he did in 2016 alone.
    Barwin’s career-high 59 total pressures came in his first season as an OLB under Wade Phillips. He played as a down lineman on less than 6 percent of his snaps that year.

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    An older vid, from before the draft, but I don;’t think it was posted before.

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    Though he no longer has… Brian Quick,

    That reminds me, I no longer have pain in my right foot when I walk.

    ,…

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    And there is no end. Ever.

    That’s by design.

    I had a different answer to this before. Now I say there’s a lot of truth to that.

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    And there is no end. Ever.

    That’s by design.

    I had a different answer to this before. Now I say there’s a lot of truth to that.

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    is a war crime,

    You say that as if it were a bad thing.

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