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July 10, 2017 at 1:44 pm in reply to: Donald looks for new contract, and is impressed with McVay #70858
znModeratorHas Donald or his agent expressed frustration and said they are running out of patience, or is this created by a B-squad football talk show in July with nothing better to do?
I;ve seen nothing from Donald that fits what they say about impatience and frustration. So, I think it’s the “nothing better to do” explanation.
July 10, 2017 at 1:44 pm in reply to: Donald looks for new contract, and is impressed with McVay #70857
znModeratorHas Donald or his agent expressed frustration and said they are running out of patience, or is this created by a B-squad football talk show in July with nothing better to do?
I;ve seen nothing from Donald that fits what they say about impatience and frustration. So, I think it’s the “nothing better to do” explanation.
July 10, 2017 at 1:44 pm in reply to: Donald looks for new contract, and is impressed with McVay #70856
znModeratorHas Donald or his agent expressed frustration and said they are running out of patience, or is this created by a B-squad football talk show in July with nothing better to do?
I;ve seen nothing from Donald that fits what they say about impatience and frustration. So, I think it’s the “nothing better to do” explanation.
znModeratorThat’s good.
znModeratorBTW, just to develop this, everyone saw TG was a different player last year, but here are the numbers.
He averaged 1.59 yards before first contract, which was also the second-worst mark in the league. The latter stat shows that defenses were getting to him quickly. But Joyner’s numbers say the Rams gave him good blocking on 36.3 percent of his carries, which ranked 28th among 43 qualifying running backs and indicates that Gurley should have been better. Perhaps significantly so.
In 2015, while on his way to being named Offensive Rookie of the Year, Gurley averaged 10.9 good blocking yards per attempt (GBYPA) on 73 carries, the highest rate in the NFL. In 2016, Gurley averaged 6.8 GBYPA on 101 carries, 38th among the 43 running backs with triple-digit good blocking attempts.
That means that in 2015, on 229 attempts, Gurley got good blocking attempts 31.9% of the time. In 2016 he got good blocking attempts 36.3% of the time yet his yards on those attempts decreased by 37.6%
some of the blame has to fall on a poor supporting cast and an unimaginative offense, but Gurley also didn’t resemble his 2015 self on the rare occasion when holes were open. He broke 47 tackles as a rookie, good for seventh-best in the league, according to Pro Football Focus. Last year, that number dropped to 41, even though Gurley had 71 more touches.
In 2015 he had broke tackles on 47 of 229 attempts, which is 20.5% of the time. In 2016, he broke tackles on 41 of 278 attempts, which is 14.7%.
Normally you might say, he had fewer chances to break tackles, he was stymied behind the line. According to Football Outsiders, the Rams runs were stuffed 22% of the time, which ranks 28th in the league; in 2015, Rams runs were stuffed 23% of the time, which also ranked 28th in the league. So just in terms of stuffs, 2015 was no different from 2016, yet he did better in 2015 under the same conditions. This brings us back to the first stat—Gurley actually got fewer yards on more good blocking plays (non-stuffs) in 2016, and more yards on fewer good blocking plays in 2015. That measures his own contribution—how much does he get when given the shot to get something. That went down in 2016.
Gurley was seventh out of 52 running backs in yards after contact per attempt in 2015 at 2.87, but he saw that number drop to 2.18 in 2016, putting him 46th out of 53 qualified backs.
The stat “yards after contact” allies with breaking tackles and good blocking yards. Going from 2.87 in 2015 to 2.18 in 2016 is a drop of 24%.
Everything went wrong with the running game in 2016, but one of those things was Gurley. It was visible and I think the numbers back that up.
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znModeratorHow was it? What was your experience?
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znModeratorWe disagree on some of this.
Maybe most of it. But my favorite superhero films are:
The Dark Knight trilogy. That sets the bar for me. My favorite.
The Amazing Spiderman(Andrew Garfield)(I wasn’t big on the Raimi version)
X-Men (Singer)
Iron Man
The Avengers
Deadpool
Guardians of the Galaxy (1&2)
We agree on a few there!
That’s pretty good, all things considered.
I admit that I don’t have anything in me for the Dark Knight trilogy as a whole, and the one I know I am supposed to like, DKR, I have too many issues with…and again that’s in spite of Heath Ledger.
BTW I actually look forward to Thor Ragnorak.
znModeratorHow much of it was him?
We KNOW it wasn;t all him.
But there’s different views on how much was him.
Gurley says when he weighed in at the Rams’ Organized Team Activities, he discovered that he had lost about 10 to 15 pounds.
If you’re working out at an optimum level, how do you “discover” in June you lost 10-15 pounds?
If you’re working out the way you should be, wouldn’t you know?
znModeratorHow much of it was him?
We KNOW it wasn;t all him.
But there’s different views on how much was him.
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Insider Buzz: Rams Impressed with Gurley’s Offseason Conditioning & Practices
“Gurley;s work habits last off-season were considered inconsistent at best, leading to a lack of quickness.”
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http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-0603-rams-gurley-20160602-snap-story.html
The 6-foot-1 Gurley said he prepared for the start of OTAs by eating better and training in the weight room. He is listed on the roster at 227 pounds, but he appears to be about 10 pounds lighter. The drop was not planned, he said.
“It’s probably just having the first offseason not doing anything for about a month or two,” he said. “I feel fine how I am. I’m not going to add weight.”
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Last year, Gurley couldn’t recapture the magic he displayed during the first half of his rookie campaign. Once again, some of the blame has to fall on a poor supporting cast and an unimaginative offense, but Gurley also didn’t resemble his 2015 self on the rare occasion when holes were open. He broke 47 tackles as a rookie, good for seventh-best in the league, according to Pro Football Focus. Last year, that number dropped to 41, even though Gurley had 71 more touches. As a result, he ripped off only two 20-plus-yard runs and averaged just 3.18 yards per carry. Yes, teams were focused on stopping Gurley, and yes, he didn’t have much help, but the truly elite running backs find ways to get yards
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Todd Gurley lost 10-15 pounds, isn’t sure where they went
Gurley says when he weighed in at the Rams’ Organized Team Activities, he discovered that he had lost about 10 to 15 pounds. That wasn’t a specific goal but wasn’t unwelcome either.
“I don’t know what happened this offseason,” Gurley said. “I was just losing weight. It’s probably just having the first offseason not doing anything for about a month or two. I feel fine how I am so I’m not going to add weight.”
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October 17, 2016 12:26AMIt’s been reported that Gurley was a fat cat in the off season, and he didn’t report in the best shape.
Not injury related, condition related.
It was said on ESPN radio by explayers.
They said the LA move was a huge distraction for him, he lost weight unintentionally. He’s not stronger or conditioned.
He needs to dedicate himself next offseason. That’s what was said.
I can’t remember the name of the player, but he said Gurley can still get it back, he still has the talent, but it’ll be next year.
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Insider Buzz: Outgoing Rams Coaching Staff Blames Todd Gurley’s Struggles on Him
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https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-todd-gurley-loves-the-new-offense
Gurley was seventh out of 52 running backs in yards after contact per attempt in 2015 at 2.87, but he saw that number drop to 2.18 in 2016, putting him 46th out of 53 qualified backs.
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znModeratorPeople should be less whiney and just tough things out. When the going gets tough, the tough are the fittest survivors. Darwin set evolution up to be that way for good reason.
znModeratori’d also like to know where his adjusted completion percentage ranks. not just the difference.
The problem is, PFF just turned all pay per view. In other words, it;s now a pay site for basic info.
znModeratorSaw this at one of the blogs in that link above — mindhacks

A cautionary note: The people who have taken the IAT at the Project Implicit website are not a random sample of Americans, either nationally or on a state-by-state basis. Rather, they’re people who, for some reason, chose to take an online test measuring their implicit biases — which may actually mean they are less biased than average. (After all, at least they wanted to know how biased they are.)
“Please keep in mind that this map describes volunteers for the online IAT,” says psychologist Anthony Greenwald of the University of Washington, who created the Implicit Association Test in 1995. “These volunteers are younger, more educated, more politically liberal, and more female than the U.S. population as a whole.”
znModeratorElks asked to resign
Rams have enough under the cap to re-sign all the elk they want.
July 9, 2017 at 12:44 am in reply to: on the WP D (since mini-camp), w/ a long one on WP's defenses over the years #70814
znModeratorBlue and Gold wrote:
With Quinn at OLB, there will be times you have to use him in coverage. That’s the whole point of a 3-4 as opposed to a 4-3. Since the way Wade runs it, it’s a one-gap 3-4 and they have said DOnald will always be the 3-tech, so that will not change, the point of a 3-4 is the element of surprise of where your 4 or 5 rushers will come from. If you use Quinn as a rusher all the time, then why not play him in a down position and play a 3-4?
Now, in sub packages (nickel and dime) he will have his hand in the grass, as will Barwin and the 2 DTs, so that does not change
But in the 3-4 if Barwin always covers and Quinn always rushes, then why sign Barwin? He’s essentially a guy who can rush and cover, like he did for wade and in Philly.
If we understand Wade’s theory that the 3-4 is better than the 4-3 (base defense versus base offense) then Quinn has to drop sometimes, otherwise there is no reason to run a 3-4.
And remember by rush, I mean, when they are playing the base defense and opposing team throws…if Barwin rarely rushes then that right tackle will never really get challenged.
Point is, Quinn will have to drop SOME… will it be 10%? 15%? more? a bit less? That is the right question.
Looking at Wade’s Denver D here is one play where Ware has the RB in man coverage
then there is three stills. he has the TE in a bump, then settles in zone coverage.
So Ware had to play SOME coverage, not a lot, but the scheme calls for it sometimes and Quinn will have to be able to do it or he’ll be a 3rd down rusher and someone else will have to play WILL in base.


znModeratorJuly 8, 2017 at 11:03 pm in reply to: black holes, gravitational waves, n other stuff like that #70811
znModerator
znModeratorI appreciate the kind words.
But I am also looking for impressions and honest feedback. Getting a sense of how things is around here.
Example: do our slow times bother people, or do you just wait them out? (All boards are slow these days but since we are defined by a particular community, ours can be slower than most.)
Just helps the mods see things.
znModeratorHe plays a normal 1-gap shade NT and when it comes to that is better than anyone Phillips had playing the same position in Denver.
When you talk about the burden put on the NT in a 3/4 I think you’re thinking of 2-gap systems. 2-gap NTs have to keep blockers off the LBs or the defense doesn’t work. That’s not how this defenses does things.
The 1-gap 3/4 Phillips uses does not put the same kind of pressure on the DL. Brockers attacks a gap. When it comes to that, the way Brockers plays this year will not be any different from what he was doing last year in a one-gap attacking 4/3. In fact as far as both Brockers and Donald are concerned, they’re just not going to be doing anything different from what they were doing last year.
znModeratorSome of that’s changing.
Constructivism, for example. Many on the left contest the idea that we are social down to the somatic level.
A lot of the other distinctions hold up I think.
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znModeratorThis dirty little secret is the real reason why repeal is so hard for Republicans
Greg Sargent
The Affordable Care Act has widely been held aloft as one of the leading drivers of the deepening polarization of American political life — it has been bitterly fought over for years and has loomed as a great embodiment of all that ideologically divides the two parties. Yet in a strange twist, the GOP debate over repeal has actually revealed that there is a surprising amount of hidden consensus on health care.
In a nutshell, what the debate has really shown is that the passage and implementation of the ACA has given rise to a latent majority in Congress — or at least one in the Senate — that has more or less made peace with the ACA’s spending and regulatory architecture and its fundamental ideological goals, either for political or principled reasons, or for some combination of the two. The debate has forced this basic reality out into the open. And this, I think, is one key reason it is proving so hard for the GOP to repeal it.
The Post’s David Weigel has an extraordinary report on a town-hall meeting held by GOP Sen. Jerry Moran of Kansas that neatly illustrates the point. Moran is a GOP loyalist who previously headed the GOP Senate campaign arm and sits firmly in the mainstream of today’s GOP. Yet even he is having trouble supporting the GOP bill. At the town-hall meeting, there was no sign of his previous calls for repeal:
He did not describe the task facing Republicans as repeal; it was “repair, replace, whatever language people are using.”
Pressed by activists and voters, Moran said that he did not want to cut back Medicaid. “I have concern about people with disabilities, the frail and elderly,” Moran said. “I also know that if we want health care in rural places and across Kansas, Medicare and Medicaid need to compensate for the services they provide.”
After the town hall meeting, Moran told reporters the version of the GOP’s bill that he opposed put too much of Medicaid at risk.
“Medicaid, except for the extension part of Medicaid, is not really a part of fixing the Affordable Care Act,” he said. “So we’ve coupled two things, both of which are very difficult. Kansas is a place that’s treated Medicaid payments very conservative. If there are people receiving those payments who don’t deserve them, deal with that issue.”
Moran appears to mean that the GOP bill would not only phase out the ACA’s Medicaid expansion; it would also cut Medicaid funding far beyond the expansion (to the tune of $776 billion over 10 years, leaving 15 million fewer covered by the program). Moran is saying this would hurt untold numbers of people, including the disabled and sick, and suggesting that such deep Medicaid cuts would threaten to close rural hospitals. He is suggesting that, while able-bodied adults might allegedly be scamming their way onto the Medicaid expansion, this issue should not be taken to justify the deeper cuts to Medicaid. And this, as Weigel notes, unfolded in one of “the reddest parts of a deep red state.”
The bottom line is that Republicans who currently oppose the Senate bill object to it because it would roll back federal spending in a way that would hurt millions and millions of people. This includes Moran and moderates such as Dean Heller of Nevada, Susan Collins of Maine, Shelley Moore Capito of West Virginia, and Rob Portman of Ohio, all of whom have made variations of this argument. Some, such as Collins and Sen. Bob Corker of Tennessee, have even objected on the grounds that this would finance a massive tax cut for the wealthy, and that this is indefensible.
All of this is dramatically at odds with the ludicrous spin coming from GOP leaders such as John Cornyn of Texas and House Speaker Paul D. Ryan of Wisconsin, who argue that the millions left uncovered under the GOP bill will be choosing that plight, because they will have been liberated from the hated ACA mandate. To summarize, Republicans are arguing both that (1) millions won’t actually be hurt by these Medicaid cuts, either because they aren’t really cuts, or because everyone will have “access” to health care later; and that (2) if many millions of people go without coverage who would otherwise have been covered, they did so by choice.
It is true that scrapping the mandate would be a partial cause of the rise in the uninsured. But how many of the 15 million fewer covered by Medicaid would be choosing that outcome, as opposed to not being able to afford coverage on their own? The point here is that, while it is of course possible to make a principled argument against the mandate, Republicans are doing something else entirely: They are hiding behind their arguments against the mandate to evade acknowledging the true human toll their proposed Medicaid cuts would inflict. What this really means is that they are basically fine with rolling back the ACA’s massive coverage expansion to facilitate a massive tax cut for the rich, but just won’t say so out loud.
But all indications are that moderate Republican senators — and even senators such as Moran — are not fine with this outcome. And this also applies to the ACA’s provisions barring discrimination against people with preexisting conditions. As Philip Klein points out, Republicans are badly hung up on this — they are struggling to find some other way of realizing that goal while also repealing the mandate, which means they still want government to act to accomplish the same thing.
Now, these objecting senators may still end up supporting a revised GOP bill in the end, due to party pressures and other factors. But if they do, they will only justify it by pretending that a few additional last-minute dollars (in relative terms) added to the bill would put a meaningful dent in the enormous coverage loss the bill would produce, which that money would not actually do. This would mean their current objections were insincere. But right now, if we take those objections at face value, we have learned that they — and a majority of the Senate, when taken along with all Democrats — just aren’t willing to be associated with rolling back the large coverage expansion that the ACA has achieved.
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Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) is now saying that if the GOP bill fails, Republicans will have to act to shore up the insurance markets. But as Juliet Eilperin and Amy Goldstein point out:
His suggestion that he and his colleagues might instead try to bolster the insurance exchanges created under the ACA is at odds with Republican talking points that they are beyond repair … Until now, both congressional Republicans and the Trump administration have contended that the “collapse” of the ACA marketplaces is a main reason to erase much of the 2010 law.
Exactly! McConnell’s concession blows up one of the biggest and most mendacious stories President Trump and Republicans have been telling about Obamacare for months.
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Axios reports that Chris Warshaw of MIT looked at polling of all major legislation since 1990 and found:
The Republican health care effort is the most unpopular legislation in three decades — less popular than the Affordable Care Act when it was passed, the widely hated Troubled Asset Relief Program bank bailout bill in 2008, and even President Bill Clinton’s failed health reform effort in the 1990s.
It turns out cutting hundreds of billions in health spending on poor people to finance a huge tax cut for the rich is deeply unpopular, and not even Trump’s mighty Twitter feed can change it.
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Paul Krugman runs through multiple lies and deceptions that Republicans are telling about their health-care bill, including this one:
Senior Republicans like Paul Ryan dismiss declines in the number of people with coverage as no big deal, because they would represent voluntary choices not to buy insurance. How is this supposed to apply to the 15 million people the C.B.O. predicts would lose Medicaid? Wouldn’t many people drop coverage, not as an exercise in personal freedom, but in response to what the Kaiser Family Foundation estimates would be an average 74 percent increase in after-tax premiums?
Republicans like to say the coverage loss would be the result of people’s choices once the hated mandate is scrapped. But if this is about the mandate, why the huge cuts in taxes for the rich and Medicaid?
July 7, 2017 at 6:53 pm in reply to: Donald looks for new contract, and is impressed with McVay #70787
znModeratorRams surely want to “pay the man”; the challenge is coming up with the right number
Mike Florio
Thus, the Rams will be reluctant to give Suh money to Donald
I sure in the heck hope that’s not what’s happening.
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July 7, 2017 at 6:52 pm in reply to: Donald looks for new contract, and is impressed with McVay #70786
znModeratorRams surely want to “pay the man”; the challenge is coming up with the right number
Mike Florio
Rams surely want to “pay the man”; the challenge is coming up with the right number
It’s easy for people like Rams defensive lineman Michael Brockers to tell his team to “pay the man” in reference to defensive tackle Aaron Donald. It’s much harder to determine the right dollars and structure of the deal.
The problem arises in large part from the fact that the Donald has two years left on his rookie deal. Which means that the Rams would be assuming the injury risk from Donald for the next 32 regular-season games, plus any postseason games the Rams may play (stop laughing).
It’s one thing for a team to assume the injury risk for a quarterback or a receiver or a cornerback. Linemen are constantly stuck in a scrum of bodies that may or may not result in a broken limb or worse on any given play. So the injury risk is much more real for guys like Donald than it is for players like Washington quarterback Kirk Cousins.
Speaking of Cousins, Donald has a longer path to the year-to-year franchise tag approach that Cousins currently is pursuing, because Donald was picked in round one. He’ll need to play five full years before he’s eligible for the franchise tag for the first time. Then, the Rams could give him a 20-percent raise over the tag for a seventh year before facing the prospect of giving him quarterback money or a 44-percent raise, whichever is higher.
That’s four more seasons before the Rams would have to pay market value to Donald, and at that point he’ll be 30.
“Market value” possibly is the key term here. Donald may be looking at the Ndamukong Suh contract, worth $20 million per year, as reflecting the market value Donald wants to match or beat. But Suh got his money by hitting the market, thanks to a puffed-up franchise tag number (due to the pre-2011 rookie compensation system) that the Lions couldn’t/wouldn’t use. So Suh became a free agent and got true, literal market value.
Donald is at least two years, probably three years, and maybe four years away from that same situation. Thus, the Rams will be reluctant to give Suh money to Donald, especially with two years left on his deal. To get the Rams to assume the injury risk now, Donald necessarily will have to take far less than what he could get if he were hitting the market or, at a minimum, embarking on the franchise-tag path.
znModeratorJust think of me as an old senile poster.
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vSenile? I am older than you, and yet
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well anyway the mulberries are great this year.
znModeratorNFC West Q&A: Can Todd Gurley still become an elite running back?
Alden Gonzalez
Todd Gurley went from Offensive Rookie of the Year in 2015 to one of the least productive runners of the 2016 season, compiling 885 rushing yards on 278 attempts.
One thing Gurley lacks is supporting cast. The Los Angeles Rams, who ranked last in yards in each of the past two seasons, have way too much work to do on offense. There are reasons to believe that Gurley will be better moving forward, though. Sean McVay, a prodigy when it comes to the way offenses function, should dream up creative ways of opening up running lanes for Gurley. Left tackle Andrew Whitworth will no doubt improve an offense line that was one of the NFL’s worst units last season.
Heading into his second year, Jared Goff still has a lot to prove, and that receiving corps still leaves something to be desired. Because of those two question marks, defenses will continue to stack the box and focus primarily on stopping Gurley, confident the Rams passing attack won’t hurt them all that much.
Do you believe Gurley can still be an elite running back?
Josh Weinfuss, Arizona Cardinals reporter: In a nutshell, yes. He’s a talent, and in the NFL, talent will shine when paired with the right pieces. Beyond that, Gurley’s talent didn’t just disappear last season. He averaged 2.7 yards per carry before contact in 2015 compared to 1.59 last season — a sign he wasn’t getting enough space to move before the defense converged. Some of the blame has to fall on the offensive line, which was improved this offseason through the signing of veteran tackle Whitworth. Whitworth may be 35, but his presence on the line should bolster its physicality and productivity, giving Gurley room and allowing him to run more freely. Gurley has the potential to be one of the best running backs in the NFL, with the talent to rival the likes of David Johnson and Ezekiel Elliott. Another factor that could fuel his resurgence involves the expected improvement of Goff. If Goff can grow like most players do between their rookie and second seasons, then an improved passing game will open up the ground game for Gurley, allowing him to return to the elite running back conversation.
Nick Wagoner, San Francisco 49ers reporter: This doesn’t seem like a simple yes or no question anymore. Gurley had an impressive stretch of brilliance as a rookie, largely buoyed by his big-play ability. Nobody topped his 14 20-plus-yard runs in 2015. Despite those numbers, Gurley was hindered by a questionable offensive line and questionable passing game, and his production dipped in the final stretch of the season. Last year, Gurley couldn’t recapture the magic he displayed during the first half of his rookie campaign. Once again, some of the blame has to fall on a poor supporting cast and an unimaginative offense, but Gurley also didn’t resemble his 2015 self on the rare occasion when holes were open. He broke 47 tackles as a rookie, good for seventh-best in the league, according to Pro Football Focus. Last year, that number dropped to 41, even though Gurley had 71 more touches. As a result, he ripped off only two 20-plus-yard runs and averaged just 3.18 yards per carry. Yes, teams were focused on stopping Gurley, and yes, he didn’t have much help, but the truly elite running backs find ways to get yards. Gurley should be better in McVay’s offense, but the new head coach’s emphasis on passing leads me to believe that Gurley will be less of a focal point for the Rams in 2017. Though McVay’s presence might help Gurley put up better numbers, it might also prevent him from becoming the elite back many thought he’d be after his rookie season.
Sheil Kapadia, Seattle Seahawks reporter: I’m not sure about elite, but Gurley can still be a quality back in the NFL. The numbers suggest that blocking was a huge issue for Gurley and the Rams last season. Gurley averaged 1.59 yards before contact, which ranked 41st out of 42 players last season. In 2015, that number was 2.70, good for 10th among running backs. The Rams need to devise some way of threatening defenses with their passing game at least occasionally in order for Gurley to return to his 2015 form.
znModeratorActually, you don’t put up the “link:” thing with youtube vids, just with articles.
It’s the difference between this:
link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvtNyOzGogc
And this:
znModeratorOffseason In Review: Los Angeles Rams
by Zach Links
https://www.profootballrumors.com/2017/07/offseason-review-los-angeles-rams-2017
You only get to make one first impression and the Rams’ Los Angeles debut was less than impressive. The Rams got uneven performances out of rookie quarterback Jared Goff (to put it mildly), finished 4-12, and wound up sacking coach Jeff Fisher before the season was through. Now, the Rams are sharing the L.A. market with another team and they hope to set themselves apart with a better showing in 2017.
Notable signings:
Trumaine Johnson, CB: One year, $16.742MM. Fully guaranteed. Signed franchise tag.
Andrew Whitworth, T: Three years, $33.75MM. $15MM guaranteed.
Robert Woods, WR: Five years, $34MM. $10MM guaranteed.
Kayvon Webster, CB: Two years, $8MM. $4.25MM guaranteed. $4MM available via incentives.
Greg Zuerlein, K: Three years, $6.75MM. $2.375MM guaranteed.
Lance Dunbar, RB: One year, $1.5MM. $1.375MM guaranteed. $1.5MM available via incentives.
John Sullivan, C: One year, $1MM. $100K guaranteed.
Nickell Robey-Coleman, CB: One year, minimum salary benefit. $80K guaranteed.
Connor Barwin, LB: One year, $3.5MM. $3MM available via incentives.
Dominique Easley, DT: One year, $1.797MM. Signed original round RFA tender.
Ethan Westbrooks, DE: One year, $1.797MM. Signed original round RFA tender.Last year, the Rams had two standout cornerbacks set to hit the open market and only one franchise tag to use. They opted to retain Trumaine Johnson while allowing Janoris Jenkins to test free agency. The Rams were apparently close to keeping Jenkins, but he ultimately left to sign a big money deal with the Giants. After watching the 2016 season play out, the decision to roll with Johnson over Jenkins doesn’t look so great. Determined to not lose a star cornerback two years in a row, the Rams used the tag on Johnson for the second year in a row, resulting in a hefty one-year, $16.742MM tender.
Now, the two sides have until July 17th (not July 15th) to hammer out an extension. Unfortunately, it doesn’t sound like we will see a new deal struck in the coming days. Unless things change, Johnson will play out the year with the highest yearly salary of any cornerback in the NFL. Johnson graded out as Pro Football Focus’ 26th-best cornerback last season, indicating that he is starting caliber, but far from elite. Los Angeles would like to tamp down that bloated cap number and lock Johnson up through his prime years, but he seems willing to bet on himself.
The Rams landed this year’s most talented free agent tackle when they signed veteran Andrew Whitworth. A three-year deal with strong cash flow in the first two years may not seem ideal for a 35-year-old, but that’s the cost of doing business when trying to add top offensive tackles. In 2016, PFF rated him as the second-best tackle in the entire NFL and he’s been a Top 5/Top 10 guy for the last five years in a row. The Rams are hoping that the addition of Whitworth will help to give Goff extra time in the pocket, allowing him to make better throws when he’s not under duress. Last year, the Rams finished out with the sixth-worst offensive line in the NFL, according to PFF’s metrics.
Goff will have some new mouths to feed this year, including free agent Robert Woods. Woods made a name for himself in Buffalo as a solid stand-in for Sammy Watkins when he dealt with injury. Now, he’s being counted upon as the WR1 in Los Angeles. Even though he signed a five-year deal, it should be noted that he won’t be long for Los Angeles if he can’t handle his new responsibilities. Woods is due $5MM on the third day of the 2018 league year and nothing is guaranteed for the former Bills complementary target past Year 2.
Kayvon Webster (Vertical)Kayvon Webster was blocked by corners Chris Harris, Aqib Talib and Bradley Roby and safeties Justin Simmons and Will Parks in Denver. He was vocal about wanting playing time in 2017 and he’ll get his shot with the Rams. Wade Phillips imported Webster to serve as a starting CB opposite Johnson and we’ll soon find out whether he’s top 60 at the position or simply a talented special teams guy.
The Rams may have found two of the offseason’s best values by signing Connor Barwin (one-year, $3.5MM deal) and slot specialist Nickell Robey-Coleman (one-year, minimum salary deal). Barwin played for Phillips with the Texans from 2011-12, and the 30-year-old chose L.A. in part because of the lovable defensive coordinator.
“Wade did a lot for me in the two years I was with Houston,” said Barwin. “He taught me so much about being a pro, enjoying being around the game every single day, and he really elevated my game as a pass rusher.”
Barwin now joins a talented linebacker group which includes Robert Quinn, Alec Ogletree, and Mark Barron. Coupled with the great potential of the defensive line, Phillips has one heck of a front seven to work with.
Robey-Coleman’s release from the Bills was a surprised rivaled only by the low price tag on his deal with the Rams. Last year, the corner earned a higher grade from PFF than former Buffalo teammates Stephon Gilmore and Ronald Darby. It would be a surprise if he bested both of them again in 2017, but there’s no question that there is great potential for Robey-Coleman to outperform his contract.
Notable losses:Tim Barnes, C: Released
Kenny Britt, WR
Benny Cunningham, RB
Case Keenum, QB
Lance Kendricks, TE: Released
T.J. McDonald, S
Brian Quick, WR
Chase Reynolds, RB
Demetrius Rhaney, C: Waived
Eugene Sims, DE: Released
Cam Thomas, DT
This offseason, the Rams said adios to Kenny Britt. The highly talented Rutgers product was never able to put it all together at the NFL level until last year when he had managed to turn in his first career 1,000+ yard campaign, despite playing in the league’s worst offense. Britt’s work ethic frequently came into question during his college days and it’s possible that the Rams had questions about his maturity when it came time to pay him. It’s also possible that they just saw a four-year deal worth $32.5MM with $17MM guaranteed (the deal he got from the Browns) as too rich of a price tag. Ultimately, they’re betting on better production out of Woods than Britt and you won’t find many talent evaluators willing to support that choice. The Rams will also forge ahead without Brian Quick, who projects to be the WR4 in Washington. Kenny Britt (Vertical)A couple other familiar faces are gone on the offensive side. The Rams’ old regime had high hopes for Lance Kendricks, signing him to a four-year, $18.5MM pact some time ago. The new regime wasn’t as crazy about him. The Rams got out of the deal two years early, even though he had a career-high 50 receptions last year for 499 yards and two scores. There’s now a youth movement going down at tight end, something that we’ll explore a little further down the page.
In two years with St. Louis/Los Angeles, Keenum appeared in ten games with nine starts. The results were less than spectacular and it didn’t seem like the team made much of an attempt to retain him. Now that he’s gone, Sean Mannion will be the primary backup for Goff.
McDonald was the Rams’ starting safety since entering the league in 2013 all the way through 2016. This spring, however, the Rams made no attempt to retain him. The safety is facing an eight-game suspension for violating the league’s substance abuse policy, but that will be a headache for another team (the Dolphins) in 2017.
Sims, 31, appeared in all 16 games for the Rams last season and made eight starts. The advanced numbers at PFF have never been high on Sims and neither was Phillips, apparently. Sims was dropped during a major player purge around the start of free agency and we haven’t heard any word of teams being interested in him in the last four months. That’s a sign that Sims is still not healthy enough to play (he was cut with a failed physical designation) or that teams no longer see him as a quality defensive end.
Trades:
Acquired a 2017 sixth-round pick (No. 206) from the Dolphins in exchange for DE William Hayes and a 2017 seventh-round pick (No. 223).
Acquired a 2017 second-round pick (No. 44; TE Gerald Everett) and a 2017 third-round pick (No. 91; S John Johnson) from the Bills in exchange for a 2017 second-round pick (No. 37; WR Zay Jones) and a 2017 fifth-round pick (No. 149).
Acquired a 2017 fourth-round pick (No. 117; WR Josh Reynolds) and a 2017 sixth-round pick (No. 197) from the Bears in exchange for a 2017 fourth-round pick (No. 112; S Eddie Jackson).
Acquired a 2017 fourth-round pick (No. 125; LB Samson Ebukam) from the Jets in exchange for a 2017 fourth-round pick (No. 141; WR Chad Hansen) and a 2017 sixth-round pick (No. 197; CB Jeremy Clark).
Acquired a 2018 sixth-round pick from the Lions in exchange for T Greg Robinson.
It’s hard to find fault with the William Hayes deal from the Dolphins’ perspective. From the Rams’ side, however, the deal is a bit perplexing. Hayes had two years to go on his three-year, $17.5MM contract, a good value considering the way that lesser pass rushers have gotten paid since then. It seems that Phillips didn’t like his chances of transitioning from a 4-3 to a 3-4 defense. If Hayes (and McDonald, for that matter) breaks out in Miami, there will be a lot of second guessing going on in L.A. On a related note, Hayes’ deal was shortened to allow him to reach the free agent market after the 2017 season.The Rams moved back in the second round and got themselves a new starting tight end seven spots down. Gerald Everett will now take the place of Kendricks in the offense and the Rams are hoping for better results. Interestingly, the Rams’ failsafe for Everett is also a relative youngster. Tyler Higbee, who slid down draft boards in 2016 thanks to his off-field behavior, is expected to see significant snaps behind the rookie. Beyond them, there’s Cory Harkey – a relatively unknown holdover from the old regime – and 2016 sixth-round choice Temarrick Hemingway. If the Rams don’t like what they see from the TE group in August, don’t be surprised if they look at external options.
Rams fans were tired of waiting for Greg Robinson to do something at the professional level and so were the Rams. When Taylor Decker went down with an injury, the Rams pawned the former No. 2 overall pick off on the Lions in exchange for a sixth-round choice. Maybe a change of scenery will do Robinson good, but it was abundantly clear that things were just not going to work for him with the Rams. In each of the last three seasons, the advanced numbers have pegged Robinson as one of the league’s worst tackles.
Draft picks:
2-44: Gerald Everett, TE (South Alabama)
3-69: Cooper Kupp, WR (Eastern Washington)
3-91: John Johnson, S (Boston College)
4-117: Josh Reynolds, WR (Texas A&M)
4-125: Samson Ebukam, LB (Eastern Washington)
6-189: Tanzel Smart, DT (Tulane)
6-206: Sam Rogers, FB (Virginia Tech)
7-234: Ejuan Price, DE (Pitt)
The Rams did not have a first-round choice in this year’s draft thanks to the Jared Goff trade of 2016. After this year, we might have a better handle on whether that was a smart trade for L.A.Other:
Hired Sean McVay to replace Jeff Fisher / John Fassel (interim).
Hired Matt LaFleur as offensive coordinator to replace Rob Boras. Hired former Jaguars OC Greg Olson as quarterbacks coach.
Hired Wade Phillips as defensive coordinator to replace Gregg Williams. Hired former Redskins DC Joe Barry as assistant head coach/linebackers.
Exercised 2018 fifth-year option for DT Aaron Donald ($6.892MM).
Claimed C Austin Blythe off waivers from the Rams.
Claimed DT Mike Purcell off waivers from the 49ers.
Learned CB Troy Hill was suspended two games (substance abuse).
Signed RFA OL Ryan Groy to two-year, $5MM offer sheet. Bills matched the offer.
Signed, then released, DT Tyrunn Walker following rape allegations.
Signed 11 undrafted rookie free agents.
This offseason, the Rams made Sean McVay the youngest coach in the NFL’s modern era. He might not have as much experience as other candidates, but his fresh perspective is exciting to GM Les Snead.“Exciting, because you see the young head coach but you also see him bring this unbelievable energy and passion to the job with that thought of how he wants to put together his staff and the puzzle there and what he’s trying to accomplish,” the GM said. “You’re working together to problem-solve, come up with solutions, come up with decisions and try to come up with what’s best for the Rams…. You can feel the chemistry developing based on just rolling up your sleeves and going to work and making your first decisions together.”
The former Redskins offensive coordinator has developed a reputation as a quarterback whisperer after helping to turn Kirk Cousins into a top signal caller. Goff was inconsistent under center last year and the Rams are hoping that McVay will be able to get him on the right track. Ultimately, the fates of the young quarterback and the young coach may be tied together.
McVay is not daunted by the challenge of being a 31-year-old head coach and he’ll even be calling the plays on offense. On the other side of the ball, veteran defensive coordinator Wade Phillips is calling the shots. The Broncos effectively let Phillips skip town this offseason and the Rams were thrilled to give him a new home.
Top 10 cap charges for 2017:
Trumaine Johnson, CB: $16,742,400
Tavon Austin, WR: $14,977,116
Mark Barron, LB: $11,000,000
Michael Brockers, DT: $11,000,000
Robert Quinn, LB $10,750,334
Andrew Whitworth, T: $9,166,666
Alec Ogletree, LB: $8,369,000
Robert Woods, WR: $7,000,000
Jared Goff, QB: $6,349,471
Rodger Saffold, G: $6,190,983
The worst contract in this bunch probably belongs to Tavon Austin, and he inked his extension less than one year ago. Austin, 26, hasn’t done a whole lot to justify being taken No. 8 overall in 2013. Now, he has a deal that averages $10.5MM through the 2021 season. Last year, Austin set a career high with 58 catches, but he averaged only 8.8 yards per grab. Next year, the Rams can drop Austin if they’re willing to take on $5MM in dead money while saving $3MM against the cap. If he can’t take a step forward, don’t be surprised if McVay & Co. cut ties.
znModeratorFour things we learned from ‘All or Nothing’ with LA Rams
FOX Sports West
http://www.foxsports.com/west/gallery/los-angeles-rams-all-or-nothing-jared-goff-aaron-donald-070617
All or Nothing: A Season with the Los Angeles Rams brings the football fan behind-the-scenes of an organization that dealt with more commotion than the average team. A fired coach, a cross-country move, trying to keep their No. 1 overall draft from being a bust, and a historic season which ended in an abysmal 4-12 record sums up 2016 for the Rams. But, the show somehow manages to make the disappointing return season watchable and, frankly, led me to believe that that this team was in fact better than their record shows. Besides the personality-lacking Jeff Fisher and his staff, All or Nothing’s second season gave extraordinary insight into a team that isn’t good, and made them good. There were no shortage of storylines throughout the show, but its eight-episode cap forced the show to limit itself, not allowing for full reaction of processing of things that happened. Being with a team, though, in all its entirety allows for an attachment to not just a player or coach, but to an organization. No abrupt cuts, vying to make the team, or the expected drama of the competition of camp, just 53 grown men trying to make their team better. The Rams, fortunately, has a roster filled with these types of men, and in All or Nothing, we learned a lot about them.
4 Gregg Williams is still insane, but it’s charming
If the New Orleans Saints ‘Bountygate’ wasn’t enough of an indication that former Rams defensive coordinator Gregg Williams had a screw loose, All of Nothing reminds us that that screw may have just gotten looser. At first, he seems to be a normal coach: passionate about his job, loves to yell profanity, and watches an endless amount of film. Look and listen closer, and hear that screw shaking. Gregg Williams sleeps in his office multiple days a week on an inflatable mattress with no sheet or blanket, just one pillow. When describing players, Williams uses a language that makes him sound like a weapon salesmen. In characterizing linebacker Mark Barron, he calls him a perfect ‘find ball, see ball, get ball’ player and praises him for the amount of ‘hammer awards’ he’s won. These are given to the player that, as Williams puts it, ‘makes a really good contact legal hit,’ and that fact seems to get him a little too excited as he proceeds to tell Barron to ‘not allow anyone to cross their goal line,’ and to ‘make sure of it.’ Under all this craziness is just a 58-year-old man, so it’s almost endearing.
3 The Rams’ defense is absolutely the real deal
Honestly, all you need to do is take a look at Aaron Donald and that will tell you everything you need to know. ‘You better not help him,’ Donald says to a Seahawks lineman, ‘be a man.’ It’s apparent from the start that Donald wants to set the tone and the other 10 quickly follow. Even in their weekday preparation, the Rams defense flew around walk-through practices, feed off the energy of their teammates, and know and embrace the fact that they are the strength of the team. At halftime and after games, it is the defense that rallies the team together, reminds the team of their goal, and keeps the team grounded in success. ‘Go back to work’ seems to be the defense’s message to the team at-large: They are aware of the Rams situation and reputation, and are on an at-all-costs mission to save it. From Alec Ogletree to Trumaine Johnson, the Rams defense has an array of talent and athleticism that will thrive and be fun to watch in Wade Phillips’ new system.
2 The Los Angeles Rams genuinely care for each other
Sure the NFL is, at its core, a business that pays its employees for a service. Some players and fans get caught up in the ‘workplace regulations’ of the league, its numbers, and money, and alas, it’s easy to forget that this is a team game that the players play to do one thing: win. Add the glamour of being back in Los Angeles, and it seems almost impossible for them not to fall into a big market trap. But on this team, there are plenty of leaders, and full of players that can understand how a team can and should work. After losing three straight games with morale running low, running back Benny Cunningham, a relatively unknown name and now an ex-Ram, gathered the offense mid-practice and gave a heartfelt and soul driven speech. ‘If you’re not doing everything you can bro, to help us win bro, you’re cheating us,’ says Cunningham as he is surrounded by his offense, ‘This is how I feed my family, and we lose the rest of these games, I won’t have a job.’ The raw emotion of Cunningham’s speech is felt through the offense, and you can feel that the Rams want to respond. A simple thing, yes, but coming from a player that rarely sees the field, the threatening of a man’s livelihood appeals to the offense as a whole. It is no secret that the Rams were below average in their return home to LA, but the coaches or players never lost hope. Each loss strengthened the roles of the relationships between coaches and players, and ‘We can still turn this thing around’ became their proverb.
1 Jared Goff is passionate and REALLY wants to play
There is finally no secret or running competition for the Rams starting quarterback position. Jared Goff, regardless of some of the comments McVay has made about the job, is the guy for the Rams come season. And, boy, is he ready to get on the field. Early into All or Nothing, when Case Keenum was the entrenched starter, Goff was asked about how he feels about the starting job. He tries to give an answer that’s equally honest and proper, but the fire was clearly in his eye. ‘I think as a rookie, the more you can,’ queue the long dramatic pause, ‘kind of learn and sit back and watch and be ready for the right time.’ The extended pause says it all. No Goff doesn’t want to sit back, no Goff doesn’t want to watch and simply be ready, Goff wants the reins to the Rams, and a chance to prove his first-pick worth. ‘Anxiety is over, I’m good now, I’m confident, and ready to go. Ready to play, get back to playing football and back to my job,’ Goff tells the media with a smirk after he is named the starter in Week 11. Goff knows and has known all along that the Rams will be his team soon come, and he’s handled his ascension nicely. Hear his voice crack and hear him talk football with the coaching staff, especially the offensive genius that is Sean McVay, and Goff’s fire is apparent: The kid wants to play and play now.
znModeratorIMO he’s says pretty much nada.
znModeratorSleep easy.
China is giving Trump a lesson in how to handle Kim Jong-un
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jul/05/china-trump-kim-jong-un-north-korea-beijing
Is my missile as big as yours? I bet it goes farther and makes a bigger bang. Anything you can do I can do better. Don’t push me too far. I could lose my temper.
The fallout over North Korea’s missile test marks a return to the diplomacy of dumb. The news that its infantile leader, Kim Jong-un, had fired a long-range missile “with the possible potential to reach Alaska”, in the words of an unnamed analyst, has apparently “traumatised America”. Has it really? I thought Americans were made of tougher stuff.
It looks doubtful that a North Korean missile could carry a nuclear payload, or even survive atmospheric re-entry, in the near future. But more to the point, so what if it did? After letting off its bang, are millions of North Korean troops waiting to storm across the Bering Sea and take Sarah Palin hostage in exchange for the keys to the White House? As Islamic State has demonstrated, you can commit acts of murder and mayhem on foreign states. But without a strategic outcome, they are just acts.
The official US line on North Korea, pre-Donald Trump, was “strategic patience”, not least because its ally South Korea was happily making money next door. The policy supposedly ended with the previous “provocation” from Kim in March, when the US secretary of state, Rex Tillerson, declared that: “The policy of strategic patience has ended.” After another missile launch, the vice-president, Mike Pence, added that, “Strategic patience is over.” Now Trump tweets: “does this guy have anything better to do with his life?” The sabres are blunt with futile rattling.
The trouble with issuing ultimatums around the globe is that they invite the reckless to call your bluff and make you look a fool. Each act of brazen posturing by Kim, like his father before him, has been greeted with hair-raising screeches from Washington. He now has only to put on a funny hat and stick out his tongue at Trump, and the most powerful man on Earth howls blue murder. This open invitation to Pyongyang to stage a regular taunt must be irresistible.
The last time I attended a Chatham House seminar on this part of the world, the conclusion on North Korea was one of the total impotence of the west. America could make its standard response to irritating small states and bomb North Korea to bits. But the threat is as meaningless as Kim’s threat to Alaska. What next?
America is never going to risk another Vietnam war. In addition, South Korea’s capital, Seoul, is just miles from the frontier, and North Korea’s surviving missiles, not to mention its army, could make a terrible mess of the south. So all the US can do is fire off its own pointless barrage of missile tests and call on the United Nations to tighten sanctions.
The continued appeal of economic sanctions to western diplomats is astonishing. They are wholly counter-productive: impoverishing economies, strengthening dictatorships and driving dissent underground. (The South African regime, often cited as a textbook case for the effectiveness of sanctions, was not a dictatorship and was not toppled by sanctions.) Cuba, Serbia, Iraq, Libya, Iran, Myanmar and Korea: history tells us that sanctions merely give longevity to entrenched regimes and drive oppositions into exile. They represent nothing more than virtue signalling, an attempt to make western leaders feel and sound macho. Korea’s apparently immovable regime is the prize exhibit for their ineffectiveness.
The only strategic caution being pursued towards North Korea is from China and Russia. They are like grown-ups watching two children screaming at each other in a playpen. They know that North Korea is a threat to no one but South Korea, whose new government is sensibly seeking to reduce tension. There is no way China or Russia wants a hot war in the Pacific, where each has its own power game in play. China could flick a switch on North Korea, but it need not do so yet, least of all when the country is causing Washington such evident anguish and embarrassment – at no cost to Beijing.
The diplomacy of dumb is characterised by an abuse of language. It talks of “threats to national security” when it means threats to human life and property. It calls unacceptable what it intends to accept. It declares red lines it knows it will cross. It nationalises risk, and converts it into fear, dancing to the tune of the security-industrial complex, which profits from exploiting that fear.
Dumb diplomacy fetishes distant threats – such as from Saddam Hussein’s Iraq – which require that “something must be done”, when such threats are not susceptible to anything it can constructively deliver. It imposes sanctions it cannot enforce. It is so obsessed with risk aversion, it closes New York airport to Muslims and packs Wimbledon with submachine guns. This is the sort of madness that preceded the first world war.
The most thoughtful analysis of dumb diplomacy syndrome is a new book from the president of the US Council on Foreign Relations, Richard Haass, called A World in Disarray. In it he demands an understanding of the new power relationship between Russia, China and India. He warns against the hypocrisy of the double standard. How can nuclear non-proliferation be enforced on Iraq, Iran and North Korea when not on Pakistan or Israel?
Haass argues that we should acknowledge China’s vested interest in the South China Sea. It is China’s theatre, not America’s. Pyongyang has long been a pain in Beijing’s neck, but not too acute a pain. The strength of Chinese diplomacy is always to play the long game, not least in a part of the world where the cards are being shuffled by the day.
The truth is that the most potent weapon in Korea is Seoul’s crony-capitalist economy, to which China is becoming ever more akin. If a reduction in tension and then negotiation could unleash that economy to “aid” Pyongyang, Kim Jong-un’s generals and family would for sure rush to the trough of greed. He might not last a year. Missiles could never achieve that.
In other words, the most effective sanction on North Korea – as on almost any country – is economic, but in precisely the opposite way to “economic sanctions”. It is the sanction of prosperity. But this requires a reversal of the language of diplomacy. That may be a subtlety too far for western governments. It may not be too subtle for China.
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