Damn, Mack. I’ve never heard of migraines that last
that long.

I’m glad they eased up and you are back home.

m

Cal wrote:

Anybody who knows their Christianity shouldn’t be too surprised that the Bible contains such vitriol. I know if somebody pulled that little stunt on me, my reaction when they did their grand reveal of the Bible would have been, “Ehhhh”.

As a non-religious person, I’d like someone to explain to me what redeeming qualities Islam DOES have. I don’t call myself a Christian, but at least Christ says a lot of good stuff. You know, “Be as the lilies in the field,” “To Caesar what is Caesar’s; to God what is God’s,” “Turn the other cheek”. (Again, I’m no religious scholar, so maybe I got some of that stuff wrong. Please correct me if I did.)

My question—and I think it’s a pretty damn good question—is, “Does Mohammed say anything like Christ says?”. From just a half an hour of reading about Mohammed on Wikipedia, he sounds like a fighter. He doesn’t sound anything like Christ or Buddha.

And if Mohammed doesn’t say anything admirable like Christ or Buddha, I’d say secular people should say, “Yeah, Islam is a stupid religion”. (That should also be the reaction to Mormons.)
I’m not saying Muslims should be put on some list or rounded up. But if there isn’t a substantial vein of noble and admirable teachings that redeem the Muslim religion, it should be seen as a ridiculous pursuit.

When young people today tell me they smoke, I tell them “Why? That’s a waste of your money and health.” People should have a similar reaction to a religion that encourages violence.

So if anyone can shed light on what the Islamic holy books say that is admirable, I’d like to hear it.

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Scribbling this real fast so dont hold me to it…

Good to see you on the oddball-board, Cal.

I dont really care for anyone’s Fairy-Tales either.
I used to be much much more tolerant of religion
but I’m pretty fed up with most of the Christianities AND
most of the Islams. There’s a gazillion versions
of each as you would expect with fairy tales. Some worse
than others.

But to get to Islam, sure M said some good Jesus-like stuff.
There’s plenty of books out there on M. Karen Armstrong
has a nice accessible one, but there are many.
M was dealing with a different time, different cultures,
different problems, etc, than Jesus was, so sure he said some
things that were different from Jesus. But he was ahead of his
time in a lot of ways, and did some good stuff. More ‘warrior-like’
than Jesus? Yeah, probably but he was facing different problems…blah
blah blah…

If yer gonna have a Holy Fairy Tale, with a Holy Rule Book,
there’s always gonna be humans who
use it, twist it, interpret it, in an
ugly way.

If America had the “political history” of some
of the middle east ‘nations’ i guarantee you,
you would see similar actors and actions as
you see from the Isis-folks…. blah blah blah

I would like it if the high schools taught
some stuff about Becker’s “Denial of Death”
insights and his work describing humans
“Immortality Projects” (see Wiki)….blah blah blah

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PA Ram wrote:

Battle of the 4-8 titans….
Also–they have Stafford and we have–Case Keenum. They have Calvin Johnson and we have…(INSERT NAME HERE)…

(INSERT NAME HERE) is injured.
TJ McDonald ran into him in the hallway.
Probly haf to IR him.

Try and keep up.

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JackPMiller wrote:

Again, record wise, we have been worse in his four years. No NFL Head Coach ever stays til the end of the contract. Fisher needs to go, because his record has been getting worse. Fisher is overrated as a Head Coach. He has a career losing record. Not something you want. It is better to start with a new Head Coach. An offensive mind. Hue Jackson, or even Darrell Bevell come to mind.

I’m ok with firing him,
and I’m ok with keeping him.
I think both positions are quite reasonable.
Either you think the ‘main’ problem is
massive and/or key injuries,
or you think the ‘main’ problem
is Fisher’s…four…year…record.

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zn wrote:

wv wrote:

He also flat out said he regrets
jettisoning Kurt Warner, but he also
made it clear it was a decision made
by the “organization.”

I had a somewhat different reaction.

He said some things–a few things in fact–that we KNOW are not true. Simply know are not true.

For example, he described how he set up the Proehl catch in the Tampa game. Well we have heard Kurt and others discuss that game. The PLAYERS changed the play in the huddle. They altered the hot read on the blitz. Proehl was supposed to do one thing and instead they changed his route so he did another. Yet you listen to Martz and it is as if that never happened.

That was not the only thing he said that was like that. And in fact in terms of being afraid, I thought that’s exactly what Martz was at crucial points in his career. He did not break out of the shell against Tampa, the players changed the hot read. He was the one who drew back in instead of being aggressive against Carolina when they could have won, and instead he settled for a tie and overtime. Etc.

Every time there’s a choice to tell a story so it’s self-serving, Martz goes to self-serving mode. I wonder if he even knows the difference anymore.

Now there are a lot of things in that interview that have nothing to do either way with being self-serving or not, and those are great listens. But I know too much of the history…he changed some stories there, and let’s put it this way–he never changes a story so it takes the glory away from himself.

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Well i remembered Kurt’s story about the Proehl catch,
while i was listening to Martz tell his version.
I didnt think Martz was ‘lying’ or being particularly
self-serving myself. I was just thinking…Rashoman.
Ya know. My take on it is just…people have their
own truths, and nobody has ‘the’ truth. I’m ‘guessing’
that parts of Martz version are true-ish,
and parts of Kurts version are true-ish.

So, your truth is just dead wrong,
and you are an evil son of Cthulhu.

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Boras seems awfully….nice.

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zn wrote:

I bet he makes it.

Well i dunno. I think we can agree
its a large Question Mark for next season.

I hope they have a Plan B

Maybe even a Plan 9.

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They have the Undefeated Carolina Panthers
in that grouping.

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InvaderRam wrote:

it’s not all on the oline. signing underachievers such as britt and cook. ignoring the oline up until last offseason. hiring cignetti if we are in fact to believe he was the problem and in either case hiring such an inexperienced coordinator with a new qb and an inexperienced oline was in hindsight a huge error.

yes there are things that were under the control of this regime.

they’re getting failing grades right now.

Ok, but he didnt “ignore” the OLine. He signed Jake Long,
Wells, etc. They didnt hold up.

Now maybe he should have known they were big
medical risks, or maybe they were good risks
at the time — people differ on that.

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Anybody listen to that Martz audio. I forget where the link is.

There was some good stuff in that.
One thing Martz emphasized about
the 99 team was the “unselfish superstars”
and he singled out London Fletcher.

He also flat out said he regrets
jettisoning Kurt Warner, but he also
made it clear it was a decision made
by the “organization.”

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zn wrote:

wv wrote:

Does anyone have a list of the Rams OLinemen
who have been injured AND the weeks that
they went out ?

I think it would be interesting to see
WHEN the Line got to “bulgerization” level.
How many games were they healthy?

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Okay, as a rule, I don’t count one or 2 replacements unless it’s both the center and the left tackle at the same time.

But that’s deceptive, because they started the season with a green GR at LOT, 2 rookies, and a first-time starter center.

The Rams played the same OL through week 4, when they lost Saffold. That’s no big deal because they just brought in Reynolds.

Against the Vikes they had to play Donnal at guard and move Reynolds to ROT. That’s because they lost both Havenstein and Williams at that point. But still, that’s just 2 changes, so it’s not critical in itself. You combine that with being so young and it’s not optimal, but a change at guard and ROT in itself is not critical mass type stuff.

In the Baltimore game, they lost Donnal, who was at ROT, and they were missing Brown, too. That’s when they had to move Reynolds to ROT and start Rhaney and Wichman at guard.

So then at that point, they had lost starters in Saffold, Brown, and Havenstein plus replacements in Williams and Donnal.

The low ebb OL was Robinson Rhaney Barnes Wichman Reynolds, with 3 injured ROTs (Havenstein, Wms, Donnal).

That’s at least better now (in injury terms) with Havenstein back, which also moves Reynolds back to guard.

What’s freaky about all this is this: starting in 2014 they added 8 linemen, including draft picks and a UDFA. Of those, only Donnal had a previous injury history. As of right now, 7 of those 8 have been injured for lengthy stretches.

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Well thats a little confusing to me. Maybe I’ll make a chart
or something.

I do think losing Saffold was a big deal though. I just
think he meant a lot to the OLine.

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Does anyone have a list of the Rams OLinemen
who have been injured AND the weeks that
they went out ?

I think it would be interesting to see
WHEN the Line got to “bulgerization” level.
How many games were they healthy?

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Sometimes i get the impression Cignetti was more of a
“leader of men” kinda guy, rather than
an “X’s and O’s Genius” kinda guy.

At any rate, I think we all agree there’s been
a contatenation of problems on Offense,
probably starting with

two Rookies on the OLine,
Greg Robinson’s lack of improvement,
and then
the numerous injuries on the OLine
caused,
Foles (who had plenty of flaws to begin with) to be bulgerized, and
finally his
total meltdown,
which has affected
the Receivers,
though Cook is inherently unreliable,
and Kendricks was injured,
and Stedman was shot in the head,
and Tavon is not a particularly reliable WR,
and Britt seems to have a limited
number of routes where he’s effective so
he can be shut down often.

And then perhaps Cignetti was not up to
dealing with all this stuff.

So, it looks like next year they will have to
get the OLine healthy — HOPE that GRob improves
(or move him inside),
figure out if Foles can come back or Mannion
can be the guy, or draft a QB….and cut Cook,
and add a vet WR, and draft a WR high.

And of course they have to make all the right
moves on defense: Sign Long? Cut Long? Hayes?
Janoris? Tru?

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Concatenation

Concatenation (from Latin concatenare, to link together) is taking two or more separately located things and placing them side-by-side next to each other so that they can now be treated as one thing. In computer programming and data processing, two or more character strings are sometimes concatenated for the purpose of saving space or so that they can be addressed as a single item. (Of course, some way may be needed to know how to unconcatenate them later.)

A simple way to remember concatenation is to think of any word. What makes a word separate from other words is that all the letters are lined up together with no intervening spaces. That is, in a word, all letters are concatenated. Sometimes new words can be made by concatenating two existing words – for example, “airline” is a concatenation of the words “air” and “line” into a new word.
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