Rams not a road team yet? (official Wash game response thread)

[Mackeyser]

Apparently, the Rams aren’t a road team just yet. Neither are they a team that fares well against the 3-4.

Doesn’t bode well for the next 3 games.

If this team doesn’t find that Week 1 intensity, they’ll be staring down the barrel of 1-4 entering the bye week.

I would have participated in the chat more, but it seemed my entries didn’t post to the chat. I quit out of the chat and then it didn’t reload at all, so… /shrug

Sports is the crucible of human virtue. The distillate remains are human vice.

[Agamemnon]

Mackeyser wrote:

Apparently, the Rams aren’t a road team just yet. Neither are they a team that fares well against the 3-4.

Doesn’t bode well for the next 3 games.

If this team doesn’t find that Week 1 intensity, they’ll be staring down the barrel of 1-4 entering the bye week.

I would have participated in the chat more, but it seemed my entries didn’t post to the chat. I quit out of the chat and then it didn’t reload at all, so… /shrug

The chat was buggy. A lot of lag, for me.

Agamemnon

[Agamemnon]

Unfortunately, we've all seen this before.from the Fisher Rams. Big win followed by loss against a very beatable team the next week.

— Jim Thomas (@jthom1) September 20, 2015

Agamemnon

[zn]

Now we’re waiting to hear if Foles was hurt.

[Agamemnon]

Lots of upsets today. At least we aren’t the Giants. 😉

It appears that we lost the RG3 trade.

Agamemnon

[Eternal Ramnation]

Fisher just can’t pull a team together. How many times in his interviews and on his show has he emphatically stated “They know” well they obviously don’t know and neither does he . I’ve had it. 4 years of this shit ,it’s unacceptable.

[nittany ram]

That was a pretty pathetic showing.

O-line couldn’t get anything done against Washington’s defensive front.

Foles’ accuracy was poor. Looked like he was channeling Austin Davis for much of the game.

Drops and penalties returned.

Defense was inexplicably horrible, especially against the run.

Some of the names are different but this is the same team as in 2013 and 2014.

Nothing has changed.

• This reply was modified 8 years, 8 months ago by nittany ram.

[Agamemnon]

#Rams back on the rollercoaster, one week up, the next week down. Fisher's M.O. Lose to Washington 24-10. Back with more after locker room.

— Nick Wagoner (@nwagoner) September 20, 2015

Agamemnon

[wv]

I missed the game. Sigh. Disappointing loss for sure.

I read the gamebook. No INTs for Foles. No Ram fumbles.
If you had told me the Rams would win the turnover battle
(+1) and still lose, I’d have been skeptical.

So, what happened? Looks like the Rams offense
was abysmal in the first half, and in the 4th quarter.

w
v

[zn]

wv wrote:

So, what happened?

Both Washington lines came to play.

The Rams DL showed up in spurts.

The Rams OL got manhandled.

Really, my opinion? That’s the game right there.

[wv]

—————————————
Laram
Sure the players didn’t show up but the gameplan of the Redskins was superb.

The Rams got out coached on both sides of the ball.

The three tight end sets and playcalling on offense kept the Rams defense off balance.

On defense they forced Foles to beat them through the pass, then pressured him.

Total dominance all the way around.

…you give up over 180yds rushing and 85% comp % to Kirk Cousins, NOBODY played well on defense!!
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[InvaderRam]

chat room was way buggy.

rams couldn’t stop the run. they couldn’t run the ball. foles was erratic although to his credit he was getting hit a lot. even when he wasn’t getting sacked.

just emphasizes the need for the rams to be able to run the damn ball.

very disappointing performance by the rams defense. to me it just shows exactly how horrible that seahawks oline is.

[Zooey]

Foles was inaccurate last week, and he got away with it.

He was inaccurate this week, and he didn’t. I’d say Foles is the most disappointing thing so far. It looks like that will always be a liability with him. Never mind the possibility of killer turnovers, he is missing guys who are open. That’s not good.

[nittany ram]

InvaderRam wrote:

chat room was way buggy.

rams couldn’t stop the run. they couldn’t run the ball. foles was erratic although to his credit he was getting hit a lot. even when he wasn’t getting sacked.

just emphasizes the need for the rams to be able to run the damn ball.

very disappointing performance by the rams defense. to me it just shows exactly how horrible that seahawks oline is.

The frustrating thing is that I knew there was a strong possibility of today’s game going exactly how it did but it still doesn’t keep it from stinging.

Forget…

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[InvaderRam]

yeah. it doesn’t hurt less. i saw this scenario playing out the way it did, but i was hoping i was wrong.

it hurts, but i’m still enthusiastic. i just feel at some point the talent on this defense has to shine through. maybe not this year. maybe not with fisher as head coach. it would be truly disappointing if it didn’t cuz again. this defense has too much talent to be this bad.

that hurt me more than anything else. foles? this is the foles i expected, and i felt that he got lucky last week. ok maybe not this bad but somewhere in between last week and this week. but this defense? they should be ashamed of themselves. they really should. that was bad. get rid of those mob squad shirts. please. wait until they’ve actually done it like that gsot offense did.

need to get gurley back, and need gurley to be what they drafted him to be. a franchise running back. but even then, this offensive line looks meek. gotta keep pushing guys.

[wv]

Is it fair to ask the question:
Do the St Louis Rams have heart ?

Is that a fair question?

I know it will be asked.

w
v

[nittany ram]

wv wrote:

Is it fair to ask the question:
Do the St Louis Rams have heart ?

Is that a fair question?

I know it will be asked.

w
v

I don’t know.

I don’t know if it even has anything to do with heart.

Maybe a better question to ask is, “do the Rams have gall bladder?”

Cuz if they do, then why do they play like they’re drowning in their own bile?

• This reply was modified 8 years, 8 months ago by nittany ram.

[nittany ram]

InvaderRam wrote:

yeah. it doesn’t hurt less. i saw this scenario playing out the way it did, but i was hoping i was wrong.

it hurts, but i’m still enthusiastic. i just feel at some point the talent on this defense has to shine through. maybe not this year. maybe not with fisher as head coach. it would be truly disappointing if it didn’t cuz again. this defense has too much talent to be this bad.

that hurt me more than anything else. foles? this is the foles i expected, and i felt that he got lucky last week. ok maybe not this bad but somewhere in between last week and this week. but this defense? they should be ashamed of themselves. they really should. that was bad. get rid of those mob squad shirts. please. wait until they’ve actually done it like that gsot offense did.

need to get gurley back, and need gurley to be what they drafted him to be. a franchise running back. but even then, this offensive line looks meek. gotta keep pushing guys.

Yes, please ixnay the Mob Squad shirts and any remaining Sack City shirts and/or any other shirts with prematurely conceived and undeserved nicknames on them as well.

[InvaderRam]

i think it’s a fair question.

personally. i think they do. i don’t think you play the seahawks and niners as tough as they have the past several years without having heart.

maturity? intelligence? they may lack those qualities…

sob…

[wv]

InvaderRam wrote:

i think it’s a fair question.

personally. i think they do. i don’t think you play the seahawks and niners as tough as they have the past several years without having heart.

maturity? intelligence? they may lack those qualities…

sob…

Well, most of us are/were expecting a Ten win team. Not an elite team, not
a championship team. A Ten win team this year. The Oline being
too young and inconsistent to expect an elite team.

So, can they still be a ten win type team?

I think so. I say that because i think most of us thought they’d get
better as the year went along. One would think the young OLine
would get better and Gurley and Quick should help. One would think.

We’ll see.

Big game next week, obviously.

I personally, did not think Foles was “inaccurate” last week.
I dont think thats the word i would use. That pass to Stedman
was like Warner-to-Proehl. It was dead perfect in the clutch.

w
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• This reply was modified 8 years, 8 months ago by wv.

[zn]

Okay, to look at the brighter side, sort of, here are things the Fisher Rams do not do tremendously well:

1. Road games (8-1-15 on the road last 3 years)

2. Following up a big win against a tough division opponent with a consistent effort. Like the Jets after SF in 2012.

3. Blocking 3/4 defenses.

[InvaderRam]

he made some spot on throws last week. but i also think he got a little lucky. he missed a couple throws. and then the touchdown to kendricks i thought he got lucky as well. no way i think that pass is completed if bailey doesn’t trip. i also feel like cunningham bailed him out several times with some great runs after the catch.

don’t get me wrong. i’m not trying to take anything away from him, but ultimately, this team needs to be able to run. they need to be a dominant run game. today we saw the exact opposite. i’ll put it this way. i didn’t see the second coming of kurt warner last week. i still like him a lot. he’s a gamer. these past 2 games he’s shown me his toughness. but this team will go through gurley and mason. i think gurley will be the real deal. i think he’s that talented. the most talented to come out in awhile.

then again. the offensive line is still the offensive line… so… we’ll see how that goes.

is this a ten win team? i think they’re an above 0.500 team. they gotta work on the consistency thing. i think the defense wasn’t mentally there the first half. they have to be on the entire season for this team to be a 10 win team. the offense just isn’t that good. to be a 10 win team the defense has to be on its game pretty much the entire season. we’ll see if they can get there faster than they did last year.

[Cal]

I don’t think this is a 10 win team, especially when you consider they have to play the AFC North and the teams in their own division.

As good as the d-line is, they ARE small. They can get pushed around and that’s what I thought happened at times today. Plus, I have yet to see Laurinaitis do anything this year. I’ve not seen him make anything close to a play. Maybe he’s already lost a step or two (he never was that athletically talented to begin with). It’s tough for a defense to be excellent against the run without a MLB who can make some plays.

The bottom line is that it’s hard to imagine this being a top 5 defense after watching them get shredded on the ground today. We’ll see.

The offense was pathetic today too. I thought going into the game that the Rams would have to exploit the Washington secondary because their d-line (anchored by Pot Roast Knighton) would be tough to run on.

But it seemed liked the Rams just didn’t even try to challenge the DC secondary with intermediate routes.

Again it’s hard for me to imagine this offense even being average with the production we’ve seen so far from the Wr’s. The Rams have to be close to the bottom of the league in WR production. That’s not going to cut it.

With all that said, I would guess that Washington will be a much better team this year (I thought they had a good offseason with all their d-line acquisitions). And the Rams were in an interesting position until Westbrooks jumps offside with 5 minutes left or so.

Oh and please, can we see less Jared Cook on offense? (And Westbrooks on D unless I don’t hear him penalized for offsides for the rest of the year. And Pead on offense, defense, or special teams).

[PA Ram]

JL was a weak link today. He looks slow. Can’t escape blocks. He may be the QB of the defense in terms of calling things. But that’s where his value ends. Rams must upgrade there.

Cook is hot or cold. And that can go from play to play quarter to quarter.

Tavon is their best offensive weapon. Even if he’s a decoy he’s making an impact.

Gurley may be a franchise back, well see.

The other guys arent.

Foles needs run help or he won’t be effective.

"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick

[Zooey]

wv wrote:

I personally, did not think Foles was “inaccurate” last week.
I dont think thats the word i would use. That pass to Stedman
was like Warner-to-Proehl. It was dead perfect in the clutch.

w
v

Well, you’re totally wrong. Completely and utterly, mind-blowingly wrong.

Go read Franke’s review. (I think it was him who verified what I saw). Foles had a couple bad passes, a throw completely behind Cook (I think), and one he sailed over somebody’s head. But he also had several passes that floated too much, that made the receiver hitch up, and otherwise failed to lead the way Warner and Bulger did. Throw it where the receiver can catch it in stride and run with it.

He got away with it more last week, and yes, the throw to Bailey was pinpoint accurate. I’m not saying he’s NEVER accurate. The TD pass to Britt today was pretty damn sharp. But he missed a wide open Austin for a TD today, and I don’t know how many other passes – several under 10 yards in the air – he flat out missed and threw incomplete. He was worse today, for sure, but all last week he had several completions that made me feel like I was on an old wooden roller coaster.

[Agamemnon]

Foles can demonstrate touch. But, he is no better than average when it comes to being accurate.

Agamemnon

[rfl]

zn wrote:

here are things the Fisher Rams do not do tremendously well:

1. Road games (8-1-15 on the road last 3 years)

2. Following up a big win against a tough division opponent with a consistent effort. Like the Jets after SF in 2012.

3. Blocking 3/4 defenses.

A list without at least 12 more item is critically incomplete.

THEY DON’T DEFEND THE RUN!

No elite defense is as vulnerable to the run as the Rams are. And if you can’t stop the run, you cannot play sound defense.

We are sub-standard against the run except during brief flashes of brilliance.

That in itself is enough to doom this team to mediocrity.

By virtue of the absurd ...

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