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August 15, 2015 at 9:10 am in reply to: Mission Accomplished! … responses to the Oakland game #28712
wvParticipantYeah, I’m not sure they were bad enough.
I dunno. They need to fix that
in the next game.w
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wvParticipantI missed the first five minutes or so, but i watched the rest
of the first half on game-pass.I thought the most positive thing was the running/run-blocking.
Looked to me like the OLine can move people.Foles looked kinda slow and clunky to me. Kindof a
Billy Kilmer who can throw spirals.Stedman looked tough and confident to me.
Offense in general looked far from ready,
to state the obvious.I dont pay a whole lot of attention to the
first game. 2nd and 3rd game tell me a lot more.w
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wvParticipant>Do intangibles really exist? What does science say?
Intangibles laugh at science.
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wvParticipantI dunno, but I wonder if Foles has that “it” factor — that “Bert Jones factor” — ie, the ability
to ‘inspire’ players around him. To make them play harder, and better, and focus more.Some leaders just seem to have that ‘intangible’ inspiration-thingy. I think. I dunno.
But there are ‘hints’ and shadowy whispers that maybe Foles might possibly
have…that…thing. I mean, when i read the stuff the Eagle players
said about him, there were hints about that. And some of the stuff
‘some’ of the Ram players are saying hint at that.If he has ‘that thing’ it could bode well for the fourth quarter.
Maybe. Perhaps. I was not here. I did not say any of this…w
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wvParticipantWell, subjectively-speaking of course,
it looks lame-and-awful,
to me.w
vThere is only one Tarantino film I did not like and that was Kill Bill 2.
From what I understand this film takes place mostly in one room and that can be good or that can be bad. If Tarantino uses this to vomit an endless stream of dialogue(as he can do)it may be a bit dull. But if the uses this tight environment like he did in the basement scene of “Inglorious Basterds”, with high tension that ratched up to an explosive scene–look out. It could be classic.
In any case–I’ll be there to see it.
You wont be able to see it. No-one will.
Once Tarantino hears about my scathing review
he’ll withdraw the film from public-view, and seek
counseling. And then he’ll give up the movie biz completely
and buy a farm
and raise chickens.I’m sorry but thats just the way things are.
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wvParticipantRampage2K – Sirius training camp tour
Just had time to listen to a little of it yesterday with Alex Marves and the God Father(Gil Brandt) .
Can’t really give you a real good word for word type report but I listened to three player interviews and will give you some quick( no pun intended) takes on what I remember .
Quick – very excited to be back out there, can’t wait, loves being around his teammates. kBritt has been a huge help with his development taught him so many things and is a great leader. Loves Foles, says they have a ton in common both being basketball players, loves his swag. Really likes Cignetti, not just as a coach but a person, real genuine guy the team loves his style.
gRob – ready to go and way ahead of where he was last year obviously. Very excited about the teams possibilities. Loves how Foles demands your best on every play. Talks about how going against one of the best d-lines in the league is going to make a great o-line. Learns just as much from them as his coaches. Talked about how Brock pulled him to the side the other day and let him know that he can tell when he is run blocking and pass blocking by just a little tell in his stance. Little things like that are huge in making his a better player.
Short interview with Tre – talked about his relationship with Gurley and how they were friends in college and that he is excited to have him. Says he’s going to do what ever it takes to make him a better player. Very excited about the direction of this team and says the pieces are all in place to go get that Super Bowl trophy !!!
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Shouldnt the ‘coaches’ notice things like what Brockers was noticing ?
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wvParticipantso robert is now the face of the franchise. i approve although donald should have something to say about that.
i think this defense goes as far as ogletree and mcdonald can take them. they’re the two wildcards to me.
at times this defense has looked like world beaters. consistency has been the problem. ogletree and mcdonald i think have been two of the biggest culprits.
Well last year there were times the front seven got gashed by runners.
And there were times the secondary just made bonehead decisions and had miscommunication errors,
and, there were also times we saw teams just dink and dunk the Rams to death.I would ‘think’ the second problem would be a thing of the past,
at the very least.w
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wvParticipantI think they need a running game for this defense to be top 5. This whole team needs a running game. It is how they are built.
Which means they need a passing game
so teams wont put 12 men in the box.So, thus, the Defense depends
on the passing game.w
vGivens is our secret weapon.
Frankly, i think it was a terrible injustice that
Quinn made the cover of S.I. instead of Givens.w
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wvParticipantI think they need a running game for this defense to be top 5. This whole team needs a running game. It is how they are built.
Which means they need a passing game
so teams wont put 12 men in the box.So, thus, the Defense depends
on the passing game.w
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wvParticipantI still like Jones. I still like Pead. I still like Candidate and St. Clair.
I still like Les Josephson.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Josephson
Les Josephson
6’1″ 207 lbs.
Los Angeles RamsHe joined the backfield of Roman Gabriel as a rookie fullback/running back, and became a team leader for the next decade.
Josephson was selected for the Pro Bowl in 1967, after having his best professional season with 800 rushing yards.[2] The next year he suffered a left calf injury in pre-season, while running through the stadium tunnel to the field.[3] After the cast for the injury was removed, he tore the Achilles tendon of the same leg while rehabilitating jumping rope and was placed on the injured reserve list.[4]
Injuries slowed him down (broken jaw, ruptured Achilles tendon) but he contributed to the team for many years after his worst injuries. He retired in 1975 after he was waived during the preseason.[5] At the time. his 3,407 rushing yards were the third highest rushing total in franchise history.[6]
Personal lifeAfter his career, he acted in a number of films and also served as a football film consultant.
Films and televisionTechnical consultant for Gus (1976)
Nickelodeon as a bouncer
Police Woman episode “Death Game” (1977)
Superdome (1978TV) as Caretta
Heaven Can Wait (1978) as Owens. Josephson also served as a technical consultant for the film.
wvParticipant“To be able to have those guys in the front, we feel like you shouldn’t run the ball on us,” Woodson said. “If they put those guys up there, we should be a very stout defense. That’s what we’re counting on.”
<span class=”d4pbbc-font-color” style=”color: blue”>This might make an interesting start to the game.</span>
Somethin tells me they remember that shut-out/blow-out
in St.Louis last season.Oakland cant be bad forever,
can they?w
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wvParticipantWell, subjectively-speaking of course,
it looks lame-and-awful,
to me.w
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wvParticipantInter esting comments by Givens. Wonder what he means by “he’s a football player.”
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WR Givens takes ‘smarter approach’
• By Joe Lyons[www.stltoday.com]
… but new Rams quarterback Nick Foles…
“That’s the best quarterback I ever played with in my life,” said Givens, in his fourth NFL season. “He’s a football player, if you know what I mean, and I think we’re all excited about what he brings to this team. That’s not a knock on anybody else; everybody has their own way of doing things
and I just feel like Nick is a great fit for this team……. become a better player. This year, I can run every route … effectively and that’s something that will allow me more opportunities to help this football team.”
….“In the past, there were times when I did too much from a workout standpoint,” he said. “I pushed myself so hard to get ready for camp that my body would break down and I was constantly battling to get healthy and stay healthy. This year, I just took a smarter approach to everything. I took my time and made sure to get the needed rest to go along with my workouts.”
August 11, 2015 at 5:06 pm in reply to: Boudreau discusses Rams' new-look OL & more OL discussion & articles #28543
wvParticipantNice article. I enjoy reading Boudreau stuff.
I hate trying to spell his name though.Maybe they draft a Center next year
in the top rounds, if they cant
get much out of the three they have.w
vThey could. They have an extra 2cd round choice.
I think a healthy Jones will do fine. Maybe next year, Rhaney is the best center?
I am a B.Jones-skeptic. I just aint seen
anything that would make me think he
has an NFL-body. I know he’s worked on
his body and all, but count me as a skeptic.w
vAugust 11, 2015 at 4:49 pm in reply to: Boudreau discusses Rams' new-look OL & more OL discussion & articles #28540
wvParticipant“Timmy has played four games,” he said. “Barrett has played none. And Meech has played none. I’ve got one guy (Robinson) that’s played 12 games. One guy (Rodger Saffold) that’s played six years but he’s only been healthy one. I had Garrett (Reynolds) in Atlanta; he started 27 games for me. After that we’re a bunch of rooks. It’s going to be new for everybody and we’re gonna all learn together, but the good thing is the last two days we’ve made money. We’ve made money and I’m anxious to see how they go out there without us standing behind them in the huddle on Friday and playing some real football.”
Nice article. I enjoy reading Boudreau stuff.
I hate trying to spell his name though.Maybe they draft a Center next year
in the top rounds, if they cant
get much out of the three they have.Maybe a WR too.
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vAugust 11, 2015 at 3:56 pm in reply to: A Collection of tweets from Rams Park – 8/9, 8/10: LINK #28535
wvParticipantJim Fadler @jimiramsboy
Just a reminder to my #Rams friends the practice today is at 5:30PM
Can someone who stays in contact with Jimi,\
ask him to react to the “Hammer” comments about
Greg Robinson being too light, and the Rams O
not practicing enough passing drills, and Tavon
being a bust.w
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wvParticipantBenoit: “Notes: While Seahawks are very simple schematically, Rams very complex and diverse. Interested to see contrast play out.”
If true, that’s interesting.
I hope the Rams D is not buying into the Hype.
They haven’t proven much of anything on the field yet.Can they stop the run consistently?
Can they rush the passer against a team with a strong OLine and good QB?
(remember the Giants?)
Can they stop the bonehead-idiotic game-killing mistakes ?
(Brandon Loyd)w
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wvParticipantI just dont think of Tavon as a ‘bust’
if for no other reason than he’s
one of the most dangerous return-men
in the game.I was not crazy about the fact GRob lost
all that weight, either. I mean, i thought
he was drafted because he was a physical-freak —
A huge man, with power, who was quick on his feet.
Now, he’s not so huge. So, I dunno about the
wisdom of the weight-loss. It didnt seem like
he was getting beat last year because he was “too heavy”.Good stuff from Hammer, as usual.
I hope he’s Wrong. We’ll see.w
vAugust 11, 2015 at 7:13 am in reply to: Carson Palmer is even better following a second knee surgery #28506
wvParticipantDoes look like the Cards are legit
Super Bowl contenders as long as
Palmer is healthy.Palmer, Bradford and Foles are
big story lines this year.w
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wvParticipantGW: “Will Hayes was our defensive production leader on how we go about grading for the season.
He led in production on the intricate way that we go about disrupting the timing of opponents offenses…”w
vAugust 10, 2015 at 4:38 pm in reply to: With promise of a big payday, Rams' Janoris Jenkins plays it by the book #28481
wvParticipantI am for signing Jenkins. But, I don’t know what would be a good money figure.
Well, I trust Fisher to know a good DB when he
sees one. I mean he used to be one, right?w
vAugust 10, 2015 at 12:36 pm in reply to: With promise of a big payday, Rams' Janoris Jenkins plays it by the book #28464
wvParticipant” Jenkins said…
“I know that I’ve got talent and I just know that
I’ve got to put talent and fundamentals all together now.”Prettymuch sez it all.
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wvParticipanthttp://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2015/08/defensive_substitution_issues.html
Andrus Peat struggles with conditioning: Jeff Duncan’s observations
WHITE SULPHUR SPRINGS, W. Va. – My quick observations from the New Orleans Saints’ Black and Gold scrimmage Friday morning at the Greenbrier Resort and Spa:
Saints and Pats are practicing in West, by-god, Virginia. If i had known,
I might have driven to the Greenbrier Resort and tried to get a peek.The Greenbrier is kinda famous in WV. At one time it was a secret site
that the President and Congress were to be hidden at, in the event
of a nuclear attack. Or Zombies.
The resort has a rather fancy bomb shelter. And a gift shop, probly.w
vhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/28/patriots-plan-to-join-saints-at-greenbrier-for-three-days-of-practice/
Patriots plan to join Saints at Greenbrier for three days of practice
Posted by Mike Florio on May 28, 2015, 10:58 AM EDT
Patriots Getty ImagesThe Saints are coming back to West Virginia. And this year, they’ll have company.
Per multiple sources, the Patriots intend to join the Saints for three days of practices at the Greenbrier resort in West Virginia.
The practices will occur prior to the August 22 preseason game between the two teams in New Orleans. The Patriots will travel to West Virginia, the two teams will practice there, and then both teams will travel to Louisiana for the game.
The Saints held three weeks of training camp at the Greenbrier in 2014, providing them an environment with lower temperatures and humidity.
In West Virginia, the two teams will practice at a first-class facility that the Greenbrier built in a fairly short period of time. The Cardinals are considering spending the week practicing there between October games at Detroit and Pennsylvania.
wvParticipantAll of the voices that I associate with my formative years as a football fan are fading away.
Cosell, Summerall, Meredith, Stram, Cope, Gifford….
I miss those times.
Yeah, those sportscaster memories stay
in yer brain. I still have Ray Scott in my
brain sometimes. Kurt Gowdy too. Brookshier and Summerall.
Bob Prince.w
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wvParticipantNot just. Public sector, wealthy individuals, labor unions, advocacy organizations and such. Money talks.
Well, maybe you agree with Marx and Engels ? Yes? No?
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Civil_War_in_France/Intro_Postscript
“….But these organs, at whose head was the state power, had in the course of time, in pursuance of their own special interests, transformed themselves from the servants of society into the masters of society, as can be seen… but equally also in the democratic republic. Nowhere do “politicians” form a more separate, powerful section of the nation than in North America. There, each of the two great parties which alternately succeed each other in power is itself in turn controlled by people who make a business of politics, who speculate on seats in the legislative assemblies of the Union as well as of the separate states, or who make a living by carrying on agitation for their party and on its victory are rewarded with positions.It is well known that the Americans have been striving for 30 years to shake off this yoke, which has become intolerable, and that in spite of all they can do they continue to stink ever deeper in this swamp of corruption. It is precisely in America that we see best how there takes place this process of the state power making itself independent in relation to society, whose mere instrument it was originally intended to be. Here there exists no dynasty, no nobility, no standing army, beyond the few men keeping watch on the Indians, no bureaucracy with permanent posts or the right to pensions. and nevertheless we find here two great gangs of political speculators, who alternately take possession of the state power and exploit it by the most corrupt means and for the most corrupt ends — and the nation is powerless against these two great cartels of politicians, who are ostensibly its servants, but in reality exploit and plunder it.
Against this transformation of the state and the organs of the state from servants of society into masters of society — an inevitable transformation in all previous states — the Commune made use of two infallible expedients. In this first place, it filled all posts — administrative, judicial, and educational — by election on the basis of universal suffrage of all concerned, with the right of the same electors to recall their delegate at any time. And in the second place, all officials, high or low, were paid only the wages received by other workers. The highest salary paid by the Commune to anyone was 6,000 francs. In this way an effective barrier to place-hunting and careerism was set up, even apart from the binding mandates to delegates to representative bodies which were also added in profusion.
This shattering of the former state power and its replacement by a new and really democratic state is described in detail in the third section of The Civil War. But it was necessary to dwell briefly here once more on some of its features, because in Germany particularly the superstitious belief in the state has been carried over from philosophy into the general consciousness of the bourgeoisie and even to many workers. According to the philosophical notion, the state is the “realization of the idea” or the Kingdom of God on earth, translated into philosophical terms, the sphere in which eternal truth and justice is or should be realized. And from this follows a superstitious reverence for the state and everything connected with it, which takes roots the more readily as people from their childhood are accustomed to imagine that the affairs and interests common to the whole of society could not be looked after otherwise than as they have been looked after in the past, that is, through the state and its well-paid officials. And people think they have taken quite an extraordinary bold step forward when they have rid themselves of belief in hereditary monarchy and swear by the democratic republic. In reality, however, the state is nothing but a machine for the oppression of one class by another, and indeed in the democratic republic no less than in the monarchy; and at best an evil inherited by the proletariat after its victorious struggle for class supremacy, whose worst sides the proletariat, just like the Commune, cannot avoid having to lop off at the earliest possible moment, until such time as a new generation, reared in new and free social conditions, will be able to throw the entire lumber of the state on the scrap-heap.
Of late, the Social-Democratic philistine has once more been filled with wholesome terror at the words: Dictatorship of the Proletariat. Well and good, gentlemen, do you want to know what this dictatorship looks like? Look at the Paris Commune. That was the Dictatorship of the Proletariat.
Friedrich Engels
London, on the 20th anniversary of the Paris Commune, March 18, 1891.
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wvParticipantIt might be a bit strange? But I am going with, in this order:
Foles, cause he is the QB. 😉
Austin, he still has the potential to be a dynamic game changer.
Offensive line, everything starts here. imo
Wait, I am adding coaching, too.
Well I agree with all that,
but the single biggest problem-area/question-mark
has to be Center,
I would think.w
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wvParticipantComparisons — Kerry Collins ?
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Date of birth: December 30, 1972 (age 42)
Place of birth: Lebanon, Pennsylvania
Height: 6 ft 5 in (1.96 m)
Weight: 247 lb (112 kg)Carolina Panthers (1995–1998)
New Orleans Saints (1998)
New York Giants (1999–2003)
Oakland Raiders (2004–2005)
Tennessee Titans (2006–2010)
Indianapolis Colts (2011)Career highlights and awards
2× Pro Bowl (1996, 2008)
NFC Champion (2000)
Consensus All-American (1994)
Maxwell Award (1994)
Davey O’Brien Award (1994)
Sammy Baugh Award (1994)
College Quarterback of the Year (1994)
NY Giants single season record for passing yards (4,073) set in 2002, since brokenCareer NFL statistics
TD–INT: 208–196
Passing yards: 40,922
Passer rating: 73.8
wvParticipantAs I’ve said before, I have developed a passion for crows
and ravens in the last couple of years.
I have been feeding them for a while now, and
they follow me to the courthouse when i walk downtown
and they follow me to the library, etc. They wait
for me to come out of buildings. They sit on the
roofs and wait and then follow me back home.There’s one I am especially fond of; he/she has a big white feather.
We call him white-feather, around here.I am an anti-corporate vegetarian,
who buys corporate wieners,
corporate bologna, and
sometimes corporate filet mignon
for Crows.I am conflicted about this.
They are not all smart, btw.
There are some dum crows
too.w
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wvParticipantquotes from the articles:
“I think he has a tendency not to see things clearly,” Cosell said. “When he doesn’t see things clearly, he holds the ball. Because he’s not a quick-twitch athlete, he doesn’t look good when he’s in the pocket for longer periods of time. I think he ultimately needs the system to help him play. Do I think Nick Foles will ever be an Andrew Luck or Aaron Rodgers? No. Can he be a successful quarterback? Absolutely.”
“The sample isn’t large enough,” Cosell said. “Nick is a young quarterback working his way through a system. Now, defensive coaches have had a season to study and will play them differently. As a young, inexperienced quarterback, he’s going to have to figure out what defenses are doing. So it’s a growth process. None of this is abnormal.”
Cosell:“When Foles gets into more long-yardage situations — it’s tougher for any quarterback, that’s not just Nick Foles — but Foles is not the kind of quarterback that is going to stand in the pocket, sit on his back foot and drill the ball consistently between defenders,” he said.
Cosell: “I think if you look at Foles the player, what you likely see is this: He’s got a good arm but not a gun; he’s not a power thrower, not a drive thrower. He’s a little more of a finesse thrower than a drive thrower. He does not have quick feet. There is no quick-twitch to his movement. There’s no explosive lower-body movement to him. When you look at Foles, I think what you see is a quarterback that needs the system to work for him and provide defined reads and good throws with the route concepts, just the whole system. He needs the system to work for him…“I don’t think he’s really any different [from last year]. Because he’s not a quick-twitch guy, when he doesn’t feel comfortable making a throw he’ll start to look a little awkward because he’s not quick twitch, he moves around. There’s been more of that this year and I think that’s because defenses have done a really good job with the Eagles. Now it’s up to the Eagles to respond.
Kelce: “He’s not going to be a guy that’s going to be down-talking people. He’s very much an enthusiastic, let’s-go guy, a very encouragement-based leader, and he’s always asserting himself. He’s not soft-spoken, but he’s also not out there commanding and being an overwhelming type guy.”
Dave Stossel: Foles is still not fully confident in what he’s doing. If his first read isn’t there, that’s when his struggles begin. He doesn’t seem to calmly go to his second and third reads and be decisive with the football. Instead, he hesitates. That hesitation means the pressure is coming from the pass rush and panic starts to set in.That’s why he ends up making bad decisions and off-balance throws…When you hear Foles say after almost every game that he’s “learning”, maybe that’s exactly the truth. He still has to learn how to engineer the offensive machine that Kelly has implemented.
wvParticipanthttp://www.seattletimes.com/sports/seahawks/49ers-release-aldon-smith-after-his-5th-arrest-in-3-years/
forty niners release smith…Santa Clara police Lt. Kurt Clarke said Smith was backing into a parking spot at a condo complex when he hit another car. As Smith opened the door of the SUV he was driving, it hit the same car. Clarke said Smith talked to the owner of the other car and left. Police were called. They responded and as they were talking to the owner of the damaged vehicle, Smith returned about 90 minutes later. Officers administered field sobriety and preliminary alcohol screening tests.
“He did not complete it satisfactorily,” Clarke said. Smith was taken into custody….”
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