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April 21, 2016 at 9:32 am in reply to: from around the net… on Goff/Wentz (a must read thread tho long) #42354
wvParticipantWhen i watch Goff, i just cringe a bit at
his repeated throwing off balance…i dunno.
My gut tells me his rookie year is gonna
be full of INTs. I dont get that feeling
with Wentz.I see that Goff is a pocket-master in college.
Great instincts for flowing in and around the pocket.
I’m just not sure its gonna translate in the pros.My gut also tells me he wont last the first year.
He’ll get kilt with that sleek body moving around
the pocket the way he does.Course, i know my ‘gut’ dont really know nuthin.
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wvParticipantUnless the Rams realize that Silver is precisely the right guy to feed disinformation to. Cause, he’s perceived of as an insider, which makes him a great conduit for disinformation.
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I was tempted to use that as my handle
many years ago — “conduit for disinformation ram”But wv was easier to type.
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wvParticipantI think we all read the snippet a few days ago about the Rams sending out intentional misinformation about whether it would be G or W.
I keep that in mind everytime i read one of these media-tweets.
One wonders if the Rams are indeed doing that, and
if it might annoy the reporters after the pick is made
and the realize they’ve been mislead.w
vApril 21, 2016 at 7:52 am in reply to: Teams believe Jared Goff to Rams is a 'done deal,' sources say #42347
wvParticipantWith this schedule, plus games in Helsinki and Instanbul, starting a rookie qb from week 1 would be deadly.
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Istanbul’s long-snapper melted down last year so I wouldn’t worry about them. Constantinople and Byzantium on the other hand are gonna be tough this year.
Anyone here been to Istanbul, btw? Ive always wanted to see it.
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vhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Istanbul
Istanbul (/ˌɪstænˈbuːl/ or /ˌiːstɑːnˈbuːl/;[8][9] Turkish: İstanbul [isˈtanbuɫ] ( listen)), historically also known as Constantinople and Byzantium, is the most populous city in Turkey…… The population of the city has increased tenfold since the 1950s, as migrants from across Anatolia have moved in and city limits have expanded to accommodate them.[14][15] Arts, music, film, and cultural festivals were established at the end of the 20th century and continue to be hosted by the city today. Infrastructure improvements have produced a complex transportation network.
Approximately 12.56 million foreign visitors arrived in Istanbul in 2015, five years after it was named a European Capital of Culture, making the city the world’s fifth most popular tourist destination….
April 21, 2016 at 6:56 am in reply to: Teams believe Jared Goff to Rams is a 'done deal,' sources say #42345
wvParticipantIf a rookie QB starts from day one, what do you
guys think the Rams record will be?Cause, 16 games with a rookie QB, looks like
about 8 and 8 to me. Which, lets face it,
would be downright funny.w
vApril 20, 2016 at 6:32 pm in reply to: Rating the NFL draft prospects: Quarterbacks (McGinn, Goselin) #42317
wvParticipantWell he doesn’t seem to think either QB
is a slam-dunk.I swear, there are so many different views
on these QBs this year. I dont remember
this much variance in the opinions on
a qb class.w
vApril 19, 2016 at 3:57 pm in reply to: Goff or Wentz? Wentz or Goff? Der Wentz oder Goff entscheidung #42264
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oldmanram – An opinion by Drew BoylehartIn my recent E-Mail to Drew i basically told him that I was in favor of Jared Goff being the RAMs pick and asked him for his opinion. This is his reply,
Goff should be the pick, why any one believes Wentz, a division 2 QB, is the second best QB in this draft , when there are other QB’s in division 1 with more production, better accuracy size strong arm and athletic is way beyond me. This to me is a joke and the team that picks him is in for a long haul of a QB with classic lack of decision making abilities and accuracy problems Don’t get me wrong , Wentz is and can be a good QB but he is a developmental QB and has to be in the right system and right coach to get it all out of him.
He is no better then Kaepernic when he came out and he was selected in the 2nd round.
Also ask your self the folowing , how many QB;s between the Titans and Rams has Jeff Fisher developed? None other then McNair, so asking him to develope Wentz is a bit to much I would say.
Goff has the production that Wentz does not even come close to having. Wentz never beat out the QB in front of him , who is not in the NFL. To me, picking Wentz this high up is a classic boom or bust with the highest potential in the bust category. Maybe Goff won’t make it either but , with the information you have in front of you at this time of the draft, Wentz does not come close to being rated in the same category as Goff
Wentz is a 2nd round player who could sneak into the1st round because some teams want a 5 yr. option , he is not a top 10 QB . You do not move up and give up your whole draft to pick a division 2 player and if you do, your a fool
Those are the facts and they can not be refuted.
wvParticipantWell, i for one am glad to have Chase back.
He’s a tough, hard-nosed kid.w
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wvParticipant“The skill-sets are different, the personalities are different, the backgrounds are different, the competition’s different,” Rams coach Jeff Fisher said. “And that’s what makes it such a challenge.”
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wvParticipantApril 16, 2016 at 3:18 pm in reply to: Clayton says the move by the Rams was out of desperation #42109
wvParticipantZn thinks that ‘teams’ have rated G/W higher than
the pundits have…but i have not read that, myself.
(do teams really tip the media off on that stuff?)They can and do, but it’s usually under these conditions—anonymously, and with other teams in the discussion too, so it’s harder to figure out who it is.
Here’s an example:
Rand Getlin @Rand_Getlin
Been told multiple times that Carson Wentz and Jared Goff graded out higher for a number of teams than Mariota and Winston did last year.—————————
Well, thats encouraging, aint it. At this point I’m just hopin for the best and I’m jumping on the G/W train.I expect G/W to have a Hall of Fame career,
despite Fisher’s relentless efforts to
run the Wing-T and destroy the offense.w
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April 16, 2016 at 2:57 pm in reply to: Goff or Wentz? Wentz or Goff? Der Wentz oder Goff entscheidung #42107
wvParticipantI don’t want Jared “Little Hands” Goff anywhere near this team.
Well the thing is, they have been measuring hands for a while now,
and apparently, from what little i’ve read, there just aint many
(if any) examples of great QBs, with hands the size of Goffs.Am i right about that?
So, its not exactly a nonissue. Weirdly, its a real issue.
Can he be relied on to hold on to the damn ball?w
vApril 16, 2016 at 2:50 pm in reply to: Clayton says the move by the Rams was out of desperation #42106
wvParticipantKeep in mind, he said this on a St. Louis radio station. I will bet anyone a box of doughnuts he doesn’t characterize this move as “desperate” when speaking with Los Angeles media. I could be wrong, but I think he was playing a bit to his audience.
Yeah, i was thinkin the same thing.
…Btw, so far, i have not found an LA sportswriter
who is a ‘must read.’ Ya know. I’m a tad
disappointed in the quality of the coverage so far.
Its mainly cliches and surface-fluff. So far.Zn thinks that ‘teams’ have rated G/W higher than
the pundits have…but i have not read that, myself.
(do teams really tip the media off on that stuff?)
I haven’t read a lot on W/G though. So, all my opinions
on this trade are based on a paragraph here and a utube there.
So, ya know, I aint really worth read’in on this trade subject.Ask me about Tasering Tapirs though. Go ahead. You want depth,
I’ll give depth.w
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wvParticipantWell, I dunno.
I guess I’m just not sold on Goff or Wentz.
But what do i know.Wentz looks kinda slow to me. Like a big Kerry Collins
kinda guy. And Goff…well Goff has teeny tiny hands
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vwentz ran the 40 in the 4.7’s. 3 cone was 6.87.
he’s pretty athletic for his size.
By slow I mean his release. His release looks
slow to me. Not like Luck or Peyton or even Cam.
wvParticipantWell, I dunno.
I guess I’m just not sold on Goff or Wentz.
But what do i know.Wentz looks kinda slow to me. Like a big Kerry Collins
kinda guy. And Goff…well Goff has teeny tiny hands 🙂w
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wvParticipantPrisco: “……“Run it harder,” Fisher said.
That’s his approach. It won’t change. But if he can run it, then drive the ball with play-action passes down the field, maybe it can work. To be honest, I think he needs an overhaul to his style of play. And if you make a deal like this to get a franchise passer, it has to become his team…”Overhaul his style of play? I see that a lot these days.
Maybe. But I watched Seattle run the ball with Marshawn,
play great Defense, and rely on Russell to manage the offense and make a few big plays a game. And then I watched Denver win a ring with great defense, and a crafty but old-injured qb managing the offense.I just dont see how Prisco and others can ignore the
Seattle and Denver examples. Seems to me they are ignoring
the fact that there are many roads to the mountaintop.I also dont buy into the meme Peter King and others are
putting forth about the Rams having to do this trade
because they have to have an elite QB to compete with
Carson Palmer and Russell Wilson. I dont think that computes.The Rams did/do need a good QB, but that doesnt mean
they had to trade for the number One pick. They could have
traded down, gotten more picks and picked a QB later in the draft.
Or kept all their picks and picked a QB at 15.One of the big question marks I have is — Is it True,
that Goff/Wentz is so much better than every other QB
that would have been available to the Rams later in the Draft?Do yall think no other QB in this class, picked after say,
the tenth pick will be excellent?w
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wvParticipantWhat would be not to like?
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Are you MAD.After having no Healthy-Franchise-QB
elevating the team for all these years,
they go and find themselves with TWO,
all at once.It would be a confusing distraction.
Plus, it might cause unconscionable frictions
and factions. Just like on Game of Thrones.Do you even understand Football?
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wvParticipantThey just gave up three starters, though.
I dunno. I was warming up to Lynch at 15.
In any event, this tells us that they aren’t in love with Mannion.
Do they cut Mannion? Trade him?
What if Mannion outplays the rookie QB
in preseason?w
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wvParticipantWould the Rams have preferred to get their QB in the third round? Absolutely. But it is like a lottery ticket, right? How many third round QBs have been picked in the last 15 years? How many have become Russell Wilson? Can it be done? Yes. Is it something that you can plan on? Probably not. Its not a perfect solution, but if they are right the cost is insignificant. If they are wrong, well, maybe those same draft picks would have been wrong too. Let’s hope they choose wisely and the QB becomes the next Big Ben or even Phillip Rivers.
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Well the important thing iz,
I wont have to wait around for two hours on draft night
waiting for the Rams pick.People need to factor that in,
i think.w
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wvParticipantThe Rams have to deal with Russell Wilson for the next 10 years. The needed a guy that can give them a shot. Three years from now, no one will miss those picks but they will be happy if they got their guy at QB.
Well, its bold, I’ll grant you that.
I would have done things differently myself,
but strangely, and unaccountably Snead did not
consult with me.The Russell Wilson thing, cuts both ways to me. Yeah,
it points out how important a good QB is to a team,
but then…he was drafted in the Third round. The seahawks
didnt give up a gazzilion premium picks for him.
They just chose wisely in the third round.w
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wvParticipantWow. First I’ve heard of it.
Wow.
My gut-first reaction is — Way too much to give up for
a rookie QB not named Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck.w
vNow, we can all live the other side of the RGIII trade.
Well, its quite a bold roll of the dice. So much riding
on making the right choice now.And you just KNOW, that some team is going to get
a great QB somewhere in the late first round or the
second round. You just know it.Do they get a WR in the fourth round?
They need a WR.
Free agent?They lose their first and third next year — do they
rely on Free Agency more next year?w
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wvParticipantWow. First I’ve heard of it.
Wow.
My gut-first reaction is — Way too much to give up for
a rookie QB not named Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck.w
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wvParticipantI am in charge of tasering tsars and tapirs
Is that an elected position, or inherited for life?
If elected, what are the primaries like?
Brutal, I would imagine.
Its an elected position. And I’ve lost
fifty-two primaries in a row.
But I have all the Super-Delegates
so I am in like flynn.w
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wvParticipantI am not a sherlock holmes fan (dont like mysteries
in general) but i have enjoyed Cumberbatch
in his bbc Holmes series. He’s got
some sort of “it” factor i cant quite
articulate.w
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wvParticipantTru Johnson was tasered too, i think.
I am in charge of tasering tsars and tapirs, btw.
…this is the deadest time of year, aint it.
Nothin goin on. I wish the draft was in early April
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wvParticipantWell, to state the obvious
for the umpteenth year in a row,
the key to the season iz….the health of the OLine.Despite all the QB talk.
One of the reasons i see a winning year
is the OLine. I think it looks better
than at any time in a decade. Young, and Strong.w
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wvParticipantI dont think there’s anything surprising about
any of this. I just think this is the JerryJones/StanK/R.Goodell
approach to running a corporation. Ya know. The ‘new breed’
as opposed to the Rooney’s and old-breed owners.All this stuff will indeed make more money for the owners
and players and coaches.Will it make the product of Football itself better
for the fans ? I dont see how.w
vApril 9, 2016 at 8:35 am in reply to: image shows the heroism of US troops during World War II #41673
wvParticipantIndeed. Very brave.
Of course there were brave Nazis, and there
are brave terrorists and brave peace-marchers, etc
and so forth.w
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wvParticipant2nd round grade on Wentz.
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wvParticipantI was watching a show on Destination TV. They were talking about the Mothman, and it being in your state. I was wondering if you ever encountered the beast?
I have never seen the Mothman,
but i have dated the Mothwoman.Mothman Prophesies is an underappreciated movie,
imho, btw, fwiw, fyi. -
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