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oldmanram – An opinion by Drew Boylehart

In my recent E-Mail to Drew i basically told him that I was in favor of Jared Goff being the RAMs pick and asked him for his opinion. This is his reply,
Goff should be the pick, why any one believes Wentz, a division 2 QB, is the second best QB in this draft , when there are other QB’s in division 1 with more production, better accuracy size strong arm and athletic is way beyond me. This to me is a joke and the team that picks him is in for a long haul of a QB with classic lack of decision making abilities and accuracy problems Don’t get me wrong , Wentz is and can be a good QB but he is a developmental QB and has to be in the right system and right coach to get it all out of him.
He is no better then Kaepernic when he came out and he was selected in the 2nd round.
Also ask your self the folowing , how many QB;s between the Titans and Rams has Jeff Fisher developed? None other then McNair, so asking him to develope Wentz is a bit to much I would say.
Goff has the production that Wentz does not even come close to having. Wentz never beat out the QB in front of him , who is not in the NFL. To me, picking Wentz this high up is a classic boom or bust with the highest potential in the bust category. Maybe Goff won’t make it either but , with the information you have in front of you at this time of the draft, Wentz does not come close to being rated in the same category as Goff
Wentz is a 2nd round player who could sneak into the1st round because some teams want a 5 yr. option , he is not a top 10 QB . You do not move up and give up your whole draft to pick a division 2 player and if you do, your a fool
Those are the facts and they can not be refuted.

“The skill-sets are different, the personalities are different, the backgrounds are different, the competition’s different,” Rams coach Jeff Fisher said. “And that’s what makes it such a challenge.”
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How are the ‘personalities’ different?

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zn wrote:

wv wrote:

Zn thinks that ‘teams’ have rated G/W higher than
the pundits have…but i have not read that, myself.
(do teams really tip the media off on that stuff?)

They can and do, but it’s usually under these conditions—anonymously, and with other teams in the discussion too, so it’s harder to figure out who it is.

Here’s an example:

Rand Getlin ‎@Rand_Getlin
Been told multiple times that Carson Wentz and Jared Goff graded out higher for a number of teams than Mariota and Winston did last year.

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Well, thats encouraging, aint it. At this point I’m just hopin for the best and I’m jumping on the G/W train.

I expect G/W to have a Hall of Fame career,
despite Fisher’s relentless efforts to
run the Wing-T and destroy the offense.

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Isiah58 wrote:

Keep in mind, he said this on a St. Louis radio station. I will bet anyone a box of doughnuts he doesn’t characterize this move as “desperate” when speaking with Los Angeles media. I could be wrong, but I think he was playing a bit to his audience.

Yeah, i was thinkin the same thing.

…Btw, so far, i have not found an LA sportswriter
who is a ‘must read.’ Ya know. I’m a tad
disappointed in the quality of the coverage so far.
Its mainly cliches and surface-fluff. So far.

Zn thinks that ‘teams’ have rated G/W higher than
the pundits have…but i have not read that, myself.
(do teams really tip the media off on that stuff?)
I haven’t read a lot on W/G though. So, all my opinions
on this trade are based on a paragraph here and a utube there.
So, ya know, I aint really worth read’in on this trade subject.

Ask me about Tasering Tapirs though. Go ahead. You want depth,
I’ll give depth.

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Well, I dunno.

I guess I’m just not sold on Goff or Wentz.
But what do i know.

Wentz looks kinda slow to me. Like a big Kerry Collins
kinda guy. And Goff…well Goff has teeny tiny hands 🙂

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zn wrote:

What would be not to like?

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Are you MAD.

After having no Healthy-Franchise-QB
elevating the team for all these years,
they go and find themselves with TWO,
all at once.

It would be a confusing distraction.

Plus, it might cause unconscionable frictions
and factions. Just like on Game of Thrones.

Do you even understand Football?

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Isiah58 wrote:

Would the Rams have preferred to get their QB in the third round? Absolutely. But it is like a lottery ticket, right? How many third round QBs have been picked in the last 15 years? How many have become Russell Wilson? Can it be done? Yes. Is it something that you can plan on? Probably not. Its not a perfect solution, but if they are right the cost is insignificant. If they are wrong, well, maybe those same draft picks would have been wrong too. Let’s hope they choose wisely and the QB becomes the next Big Ben or even Phillip Rivers.

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Well the important thing iz,
I wont have to wait around for two hours on draft night
waiting for the Rams pick.

People need to factor that in,
i think.

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Agamemnon wrote:

Wow. First I’ve heard of it.

Wow.

My gut-first reaction is — Way too much to give up for
a rookie QB not named Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck.

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Now, we can all live the other side of the RGIII trade.

Well, its quite a bold roll of the dice. So much riding
on making the right choice now.

And you just KNOW, that some team is going to get
a great QB somewhere in the late first round or the
second round. You just know it.

Do they get a WR in the fourth round?
They need a WR.
Free agent?

They lose their first and third next year — do they
rely on Free Agency more next year?

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zn wrote:

wv wrote:

I am in charge of tasering tsars and tapirs

Is that an elected position, or inherited for life?

If elected, what are the primaries like?

Brutal, I would imagine.

Its an elected position. And I’ve lost
fifty-two primaries in a row.
But I have all the Super-Delegates
so I am in like flynn.

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Tru Johnson was tasered too, i think.

I am in charge of tasering tsars and tapirs, btw.

…this is the deadest time of year, aint it.
Nothin goin on. I wish the draft was in early April
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I dont think there’s anything surprising about
any of this. I just think this is the JerryJones/StanK/R.Goodell
approach to running a corporation. Ya know. The ‘new breed’
as opposed to the Rooney’s and old-breed owners.

All this stuff will indeed make more money for the owners
and players and coaches.

Will it make the product of Football itself better
for the fans ? I dont see how.

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2nd round grade on Wentz.

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Its hard for me to believe they dont have a pretty good
idea of what he is likely to be, but…maybe not.

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“…Lynch measured at 6-foot-6 5/8-inches and 244 pounds with 34 1/4-inch hands. ”

Um. Thats some big hands.

Or do they mean he has 34
very small hands?

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Patriots were 29th. Washington 31st. Two playoff teams.
Musta been well-coached and had some depth.

Most of the playoff teams were in the top half
of the health-rankings. Three of the top four.
Health matters.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2016/2015-adjusted-games-lost

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