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  • in reply to: Zizek on Trump #64353
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    I didn’t realize Daffy Duck was a commie…..

    Huge spectrum of ideologies that I wasn’t aware of until I started reading this place…..

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    The commie spectrum includes an X-man – Colossus who is a communist
    link:http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/Colossus.html

    Also the Green Arrow is a commie
    “…Green Arrow was not overtly political or religious when he was first introduced, he has over the years evolved into an outspoken and devout Liberal Marxist Communist….”
    link:http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/GreenArrow.html

    in reply to: "I asked my student why he voted for Trump" #64349
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    Are you sure you agree? Cause…when have you ever called this a recrudescence?

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    Well, I always tend to be more analytical and discursive. Plus its all about Alliances to me. Not to mention Dialectical. Benighted, even.

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    Did You Know?
    Recrudescence derives from the Latin verb recrudescere, meaning “to become raw again” (used, for example, of wounds). Ultimately, it can be traced back to the Latin word for raw,” which is “crudus.” (If you suspect that “crude” is also derived from “crudus,” you are correct; another well-known descendant is “cruel.”) In its literal sense, “recrudescence” is a medical word denoting a renewed outbreak of a disease. In extended use, it most often describes the return of an undesirable condition, such as a war or a plague, or the return of an undesirable idea.

    in reply to: "I asked my student why he voted for Trump" #64341
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    t what to make of Trump’s victory. Is it, in the main, a recrudescence of bigotry on American soil—a reactionary scream against a nation less white by the year? Or is it more properly understood as an economically grounded response to the privations that neoliberalism has wracked upon the heartland?

    To me…clearly and obviously both.

    And Trump is no solution to either thing, of course. He’s a worsening of both things.

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    Agreed.

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    in reply to: Trump: right on the TPP #64294
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    Trump just froze all EPA grants and their contract budget. Scientists there and at the Dept of Agriculture are also prohibited from communicating with the public (whose tax dollars fund their research) and the media. Trump thinks there’s an inherent bias in the results of the research. He views science as a leftist conspiracy.

    This is an obvious attempt to bully the researchers and ultimately weaken those agencies. I think the EPA is going to be gutted and perhaps eliminated and the environmental regulations it overseas will be rolled back. He can’t eliminate it with an executive order due to the 1977 Reorganization Act. However, he can do it with cooperation from congress which he could get it due to the Republican majority.

    Enjoy the clean air and water while you can, folks.

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    Well that kind of thing might very well limit him to four
    years. I dunno though.

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    in reply to: superbowl thread #64292
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    I will root for terrorists to hijack the goodyear blimp and fill it with plastic explosives and darts and fly it over the Super bowl and have Bruce Dern blow it up.

    Thats how Testy “I” am.

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    in reply to: "I asked my student why he voted for Trump" #64281
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    But you did not indicate to me a real difference. Which probably just means you have to say more. All I got so far is that you use more provocative, street-slogan language and I always tend to be more analytical and discursive. I am not sure that that isn’t just 2 different ways of talking about the same thing. Either way it’s not an open discussion of similarities and differences, it’s just both of us talking about how I use words, and not about the issues themselves.

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    Well, i dont know how you can say there isn’t a ‘real difference.’

    I said, “Obama is a mass-murderer”

    And you replied:
    “I think Obama continued some benighted pre-Obama policies both in the economy and in foreign policy. Of that there is no question.’

    I mean, to me, you dont see him as a ‘mass murderer’ and i do. I mean there must be a reason why you dont see his drone strikes as ‘murder’. Or else you’d call them ‘murder’. So, i assume you see it differently.

    BUT, the major point to me, is Big Deal. I may come across as ‘testy’ but honestly this group is my favorite group on the internet. Always will be. I know we agree on all kinds of core, fundamental stuff. I never question that. I think sometimes you think that is being questioned or threatened. Not from me. I dont give a shit if you see Obama differently than me or if as you say its just a different language we use, etc. It doesnt change how i feel about you or this group of goofballs.

    I always, always trust the bonds we have built up on this board. It never enters my mind to worry about that or question it. We’ve been together since 98. Thats longer than any relationship Ive ever had.

    So, have some toast. Lightly toasted. With tea.

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    in reply to: Trump: right on the TPP #64279
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    Yeah, I never understood how leftists could think Trump would be better than Clinton….

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    MOST of the non-american leftists i have talked to think as bad as Trump is,
    he’s better than Hillary. Almost all their reasoning is centered on ‘war with russia’. Its a HUGE issue outside of America. And the thinking of a lot of international leftists was that Hillary was gonna cause a war with Russia.
    Rightly or wrongly that is what many of them think. (I dont think Hillary was gonna cause a war with russia, myself. Though i do think she would continue with the mass-murder thing using drones and the CIA etc)

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    in reply to: "I asked my student why he voted for Trump" #64240
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    Yeah, see we disagree. So i wasn’t wrong. I said you would ‘resist’ saying Obama was a mass-murderer. And you just did that.

    I’ve never said that about anyone. Certainly it would apply to Nixon and Reagan. I just don’t use the term.

    And see I talk about alliances, and you play gotcha.

    No I mean alliances here. Cause…fighting all the time would end up making me lose interest.

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    Ok, but i dont think of it as “gotcha”. I think of it as pointing out real differences. But i also dont think its a big deal. I never question our ‘alliances’ here. Its never an issue for me. Its a ‘given’ we have those fundamental alliances.

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    in reply to: coach hire thread #2 (from 1/23 – ?) #64229
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    i have no idea how i feel about either of these coaches.

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    I’m still hoping for Sid Gillman for OC.

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    in reply to: Toast news #64227
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    Fake news.

    Everybody knows carbon is used as a filter for water. I mean, can you think of anything more healthy for you than crisp, burned carbon?

    Before I butter my toast, I scrape some of the carbon off, crush it into a fine dust and snort it. Exhilarating!

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    Putin made me post it.

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    in reply to: "I asked my student why he voted for Trump" #64226
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    And none of the following is accurate btw:

    Where we are different is in things like … ‘Deep state’ stuff. Or if i were to say “Obama is a mass murderer” (which i believe) you’d probably resist that kind of language. So, ya know, blah blah blah…

    And, it sure has gotten testy around here. I have been doing it too. What gives?

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    So you think Obama is a mass-murderer?

    Its testy because the Trump vs Clinton thing exposed differences
    among the leftists. No big thing. Just testiness.

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    I think Obama continued some benighted pre-Obama policies both in the economy and in foreign policy. Of that there is no question. But to me being an American means you have to be dialectical. Johnson got us into Vietnam but also pushed through civil rights. Dialectical to me also means at times you have to work at seeing through the dominant bs narratives, and at times you have to make a practical choice IF there is no other choice. Saving the world doesn’t require us to go crazy.

    And remember, it’s about alliances. Always was.

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    Yeah, see we disagree. So i wasn’t wrong. I said you would ‘resist’ saying Obama was a mass-murderer. And you just did that.

    I think he’s a mass-murderer.

    As far as your ‘alliance’ mantra, sure, I agree
    we should build alliances. But this is just internal-leftist-message-board
    talk. This is like ‘family’ here. We can call each other names, if we want. 🙂

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    in reply to: "I asked my student why he voted for Trump" #64217
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    And none of the following is accurate btw:

    Where we are different is in things like … ‘Deep state’ stuff. Or if i were to say “Obama is a mass murderer” (which i believe) you’d probably resist that kind of language. So, ya know, blah blah blah…

    And, it sure has gotten testy around here. I have been doing it too. What gives?

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    So you think Obama is a mass-murderer?

    Its testy because the Trump vs Clinton thing exposed differences
    among the leftists. No big thing. Just testiness.

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    in reply to: "I asked my student why he voted for Trump" #64208
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    “… I was amazed how even the most liberal students took for granted certain dubious narratives in which they (and much of the rest of the country) were marinated all year long, like the notion that Hillary Clinton was extravagantly corrupt…”

    Well 2 can play that game.

    How and in what way was HC “extravagantly corrupt”?

    I have no particular emotions about her either way. I found her lacking in several policy areas. So voting for her was like voting for Obama. It was just the best the 1 1/2 party system could do. Though to be honest the reviling she attracted struck me as strange. It didn’t seem to involve anything real in any demonstrable way.

    AND I always found the “extravagantly corrupt” routine just to be a right-wing narrative. Is there any good reason to doubt that?

    So how is calling her “extravagantly corrupt” NOT a dubious narrative?

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    I’m not the least bit interested in debating whether Hillary was “extravagantly corrupt” or not. To me it would be like arguing about whether the rams “extravagantly sucked” this year — clearly they did, and clearly she is. You disagree. No problem. We see it differently. I dont intend to debate it.

    I also had a problem with the authors use of simplistic econ numbers to explain some things away. Like he said WV was plus-five percent blah blah blah and the nation as a whole was plus-two percent, etc. That was not convincing to me. I’ve traveled all over WV and its really bad out there. Really, bad. The only jobs for unskilled workers are Walmart jobs and Fracking jobs.

    …zack you and i are both leftists and we almost always agree on the Practical Policies in the Real World. We both support Universal Health Care, and all the usual stuff Bernie talked about. All the real-world policy stuff. We both know the ‘groundwork’ has not been laid for the more ‘utopian’ stuff or for getting rid of capitalism etc. Its the nuts and bolts of progressive, incremental change that we always agree on.

    Where we are different is in things like this Clinton thing. Or ‘Deep state’ stuff. Or if i were to say “Obama is a mass murderer” (which i believe) you’d probably resist that kind of language. So, ya know, blah blah blah…

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    in reply to: "I asked my student why he voted for Trump" #64197
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    “… I was amazed how even the most liberal students took for granted certain dubious narratives in which they (and much of the rest of the country) were marinated all year long, like the notion that Hillary Clinton was extravagantly corrupt…”

    in reply to: playoff thread: conference championship games #64190
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    OK, so, when do the playoffs start this year?

    I’m outta touch cause, I sorta gave up on this football-season about the time Nick Foles got bulgerized in Green Bay. ….oh wait that was last year. …well, i guess that ‘is’ when i gave up on football.

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    in reply to: Pie on Trump #64164
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    THIS is the reality of America today. Rush Limbaugh and Fox News will comfort them.

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    Well thats half the reality. The other half is Hillary/Obama.

    So, pull up a lawn chair and let us hope
    for a meteor.

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    in reply to: Peter Koenig on neoliberalism #64144
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    Well Billy you ought to know what i think of corporate-capitalism by now.

    Attacking neoliberalism, does NOT mean, i like corporate-capitalism.

    Ya know. Its like Warner and Bulger. You CAN talk about one and not the other.
    OR, you can talk about both. Either way is fine.

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    in reply to: Anybody's wife, daughter, girlfriend, etc march today? #64136
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    A list of favorite signs, from the WaPo:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2017/01/21/my-favorite-signs-at-the-womens-march-on-washington/?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-b%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.0ea02e2690b0

    #FreeMelania
    No Country for Dirty Old Men
    Sad!
    Resistance is Fertile
    Too Worried to be Funny
    If Mom’s Not Happy, Nobody’s Happy
    I Have a Vagenda
    Manchurine Candidate
    Orange Is the New Fascism
    There Is So Much Wrong It Cannot Fit on This Sign
    Super Callous Fragile Ego, Trump You Are Atrocious
    Super Callous Fascist Racist Extra Braggadocious
    Actuaries Against Repeal and Delay
    Leave it to the Beavers
    Viva la Vulva
    (Older woman’s sign:) I Can’t Believe I’m Still Protesting This S—
    J Edgar Comey
    (On image of President Trump as a scarecrow:) If He Only Had a Brain
    (On a drawing of ovaries:) Grow a Pair
    This P—- Grabs Back
    Donald You Ignorant Slut
    Melania, Blink Twice if You Need Help
    Impeach Trump, Convert Pence
    #emoluments
    Sorry World, We’ll Fix This
    (On needlepoint:) I Made This So I Could Stab Something 35,000 Times
    Patriarchy is for D—-
    There Will Be Hell Toupée

    Update, 5:30 p.m.: A few more from your responses on social media:

    I know signs. I make the best signs. They’re great. Everyone agrees.
    I (heart) Journalists.
    Vaginas Brought You Into the World. Vaginas Will Vote You Out.
    I Wish My Uterus Shot Bullets So the Government Wouldn’t Regulate It

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    some of those signs are pretty funny

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    in reply to: Anybody's wife, daughter, girlfriend, etc march today? #64123
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    Nah, I’m not saying anyone who didnt vote for Stein is not a leftist. Of course zn and nittany are leftists. Duh. I could have added all the usual ‘qualifiers’ to that post, but i didnt think i needed to.

    I stil stand behind my statement there’s no real left in this country. I dont mean that to be taken ‘literally’. There’s a small left in this country.

    If you take the Jill voters and add
    the ‘informed leftists who voted for Hillary for strategic reasons’
    how many voters do we end up with? Whats the percentage of ‘leftist voters’ in this country? I say its less than ten percent of the voters. Probly less than eight percent. Maybe less than five percent.

    Thats what i mean when i say ‘theres no real-left in this country.

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    in reply to: Obama – on wikileaks #64105
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    But I don’t know why anyone would think these people have a single scruple.

    Zooey, this all smells of conspiracy theory at its worst…

    So I have had enough Clinton bashing for a while. It’s extravagant and beside the point.

    Especially listening to should-know-better leftists echoing lunatic right-wingers.

    It’s not my idea of progressive resistance.

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    See, i think the problem is there hasnt been nearly ENOUGH Clinton-bashing, Obama-bashing, etc.

    I could go on about this, but i know we can write each other’s posts on this stuff.

    …and i dont think zooey or mack have bought into any rightwing-conspiracy stuff. I think they are just wondering-out-loud about reasonable-possibilities.
    Nothing wrong with that.

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    in reply to: Anybody's wife, daughter, girlfriend, etc march today? #64103
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    This is just more division.

    I don’t know anyone who is genuinely left who “abandoned class.” I think that’s just a divisive slogan that showed up recently.

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    See, i think ‘what screws over the left’ is that there ISNT one.

    There’s Dems and Reps.

    Jill got one percent of the vote. One percent.

    Where’s ‘the left’ ?

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    in reply to: Anybody's wife, daughter, girlfriend, etc march today? #64101
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    i am disheartened that the same folks didnt protest mass-murderers like Obama, Bush, Clinton, Reagan, etc

    Some of the same people DID protest that stuff.

    Now they have been joined by a large percentage of mainstreamers.

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    True SOME did.

    Most didnt though. As you know.

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    in reply to: Anybody's wife, daughter, girlfriend, etc march today? #64064
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    I have some friends that went to Washington.

    …i’m glad people wanna protest the Monster-Trump. But i am disheartened that the same folks didnt protest mass-murderers like Obama, Bush, Clinton, Reagan, etc.

    Ah well.

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    in reply to: Mack #64034
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    Actually, the 3 tech on the right side is typical.

    Houston plays the X tech ( varies, typically 5,7,9) on the LEFT side.

    I’ll likely make that one of my Dead Horse Post of the Week posts.

    By the way, we’re going to the playoffs this year. Almost certainly as a 5 or 6th seed, but we’re going. Book it.

    And that’s with a ridiculous schedule that the Pats will never get.

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    Um, no way.

    More seven and nine bullshit coming up.

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    in reply to: What the Democrats learned from the election #63970
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    WV,

    I know this is damn annoying, and I don’t want to be a nudge, but that website is owned by the John Birch Society. It’s not exactly the most objective source for news about Clinton.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_American

    And the New York Observer is owned by, guess who?

    Jared Kushner, Trump’s son in law.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Observer

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    I just googled the story and all the links are to right-wing sites. To each their own, but I’ll wait for media reports with less of an axe to grind on this particular issue.

    Beyond that, IMO, there’s a ton of bigger fish to fry when it comes to things the Clintons have done wrong. You’ve posted a ton of really good articles on those bigger fish.

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    No problem BT, i actually appreciate the info.

    Still, my point in boldening this line wasnt really about Clinton. It was just about how the system works. Its all about access to power. Clinton loses power, the money goes elsewhere:

    As noted by the New York Observer, these cuts indicate that “the organization’s clout was predicated on donor access to the Clintons, rather than its philanthropic work.

    in reply to: Breer: How the Four Championship Game Teams Were Built #63945
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    Well, yeah, there’s no one way to build a great team and there’s
    always lots of the usual factors involved: good coaching, good personnel decisions, good cap management, critical-mass-of-playmakers, good-assortment-of-cheap-role-players, good-leaders, blind-luck….

    The patriots are amazing. I think everyone is waiting to see if they can continue their run without Brady. It will be interesting.

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    in reply to: Another year below .500 ? #63931
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    We gonna suck. B/c EVERYONE has to learn a new system. Offense and Defense.

    Just don’t understand why Fisher abandoned the zone blocking scheme when it was so successful the year before.

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    Well I think they are gonna suck too, but what hope there is,
    is in the examples of teams that turned their OLines around in one year.
    I suppose its possible this new group of brains can come up
    with an OLine solution. I assume thats priority number one with McV.

    But even with a huge OLine improvement, there are so many holes they cant
    be all ‘that’ good next year. I mean they have a QB who has only played half a season of real games. They need a DT, a DE, a LB or two, a CB or two, a WR or two, maybe a TE, and GRob has to work at the Guard spot and who knows about that, they need a LT which is hard to find….

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    in reply to: Betsy DeVos #63929
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    She had absolutely no knowledge and or understanding of what Franken was talking about regarding the difference between proficiency vs growth. That is a huge part of testing today and one might expect the secretary of education would at least have an idea that it is an issue.

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    Haven’t heard about your dog(s) in a while W. You still got dogs?

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    in reply to: Betsy DeVos #63865
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    Sigh.

    …i think we should designate one day a week where we only post
    good news. Ya know. Like only posts about meteors.

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    in reply to: Another year below .500 ? #63861
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    I expect another down year. Try and Britt probably will be gone, due to we can’t afford them. I can’t see us getting DeSean Jackson either. He’ll be too expensive as well. I can see Tavon and Brockers to take a mini cut to help the team out financially.

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    Can they reach they 7-9-bullshit level next year Jack?

    …oh…and if they DO have a winning team next year
    does that mean Fisher Sucked for sure ?

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