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wvParticipantNaturalizing in the 1780s.
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“….1780s…most prosperous Americans tended to have a vastly different perspective on relief legislation than that of most debtor farmers…
…..from the perspective of more affluent Americans, people’s failure to pay taxes was primarily attributable to their indolence and licentiousness. Governor William Livingston of New Jersey, writing as a ‘Primitive Whig,’ complained…of the ‘lazy, lounging, lubberly’ fellows who sat around drinking, ‘working perhaps but two days in the week and receiving for that work double the wages [they] earn and spending the rest of [their] time in squandering those….non-earnings in riot and debauch,’ yet then dared to complain ‘when the collector calls for his tax of the hardness of the times.’ The farmer who protested that he could not pay taxes was ‘a man whose three daughters are under the discipline of a French dancing master when they ought every one of them to be at the spinning wheel,’ and while they should be ‘dressed in decent homespun, as were their frugal grandmothers, now carry half of their father’s crops upon their backs.’
The well-to-do held a similar perspective on paper money laws and debtor relief legislation opining that these measures ‘enabled idle spendthrifts and dissipating drones of the community’ to live upon the ‘sweat of their neighbor’s brows.’ Because private debt ‘almost universally arises from ‘idleness and extravagance,’ Richard Henry Lee of Virginia argued……
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Constitutional Coup, M.KlarmanwvParticipantBiden is not Hillary. Thats his best political-attribute.
Older voters like him. (His dementia is endearing, not a flaw to them. Kinda like Bush/Reagan’s stupidity was endearing to many Reps.)
But yeah, the question is will young people, minorities, progressives turn out, and vote for Biden.
And Covid is the X factor.
And Rep-Vote-Supression tactics are the Y factor.
And will Trump start a war with Iran. Or Portland.
And will Trump’s “Law And Order” card play well with the middle-class. It has played well all through history, in many countries. The bourgeoisie loves stability and order.
I dunno.
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vwvParticipantNot sure where to put this one: Historian on Police
wvParticipantWell, maybe not every GMO is good though. I mean why would it be?
Maybe some GMO’s will have unintended bad-consequences?I hate to bring up irrefutable hard-science again, but there was
that whole Jurassic Park incident. Parts one and two. And i think there was even a third.w
vwvParticipantFox version of the Portland Mayor getting himself tear-gassed.
(I like to listen to fox sometimes, to make sure i dont get all bubbled.)
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wvParticipantI started this at the 4 min mark. Klarman sums up his admittedly non-original interpretation of the Constitution:
“….the Constitution is a kindof conservative counter-revolution against the forces that were set in motion and accelerated by the revolutionary war.”
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Philadelphia DA Says Trump’s Police Will Be Arrested If They Assault Protesters“My dad volunteered and served in World War II to fight fascism, like most of my uncles, so we would not have an American president brutalizing and kidnapping Americans for exercising their constitutional rights and trying to make America a better place, which is what patriots do,” Krasner said. “Anyone, including federal law enforcement, who unlawfully assaults and kidnaps people will face criminal charges from my office.”
On Wednesday, Krasner reiterated what he had said earlier in the week, tweeting out that his office “will not make excuses for crimes committed by law enforcement that demean the democratic freedoms so many Americans have fought and died to preserve.”
wvParticipantOn the 3rd vid with Brooks, the one posted by you (wv) that’s titled “Michael Brooks on his background, his book, and Bernie (opening remarks at Lafayette).” One key point in that which I completely buy is that one key difference between the left and right (and centrism too) is the distinction between historicizing and naturalizing. Leftists go, what are the material and historical conditions and forces that led to this thing. The right goes, this is how people are and it;s just how things work. I think he starts that bit at about 9:10 in.
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Yup. There’s a similar dynamic in Court. Prosecutors/Cops/Judges tend to Naturalize, and public-defender-types tend to Historicize.
Cop/Prosecutor: “Defendant is lazy, bad, evil…”
Public-Defender: “…poverty, poverty, poverty…”w
vwvParticipantDays to the November Election:https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/election?p0=263&iso=20201103T00&msg=2020%20US%20Presidential%20Election
102 Days, and counting.
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vJuly 23, 2020 at 8:04 am in reply to: For those contemplating sitting out November elections #118281wvParticipantI don’t think its a matter of political philosophy any more. Its a matter of survival. I hope ZN is right that there will be a large electorate turnout in November. We need to have the young voters, especially those that support Sanders, to actually come out, stand in line, and vote. That along with the African American and Mexican American vote as well as women just might be enough to overcome Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania, should they follow 2016. Otherwise raise your right hand high in salute to the King.
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I dont think the problem will be progressives sitting out. I think the problems will be:
1. Covid. We just dont know what kind of X Factor it will be.
2. Rightwing Vote-Suppression tactics.
3. Gazillions of Americans love Trump.w
vJuly 22, 2020 at 2:12 pm in reply to: Humans arrived in North America at least 15,000 years earlier than we thought #118248wvParticipant“…. Ardelean said, adding, “the panorama of human arrivals during the Last Glacial Maximum is much more complex than we thought.”
Lorena Becerra-Valdivia… told Business Insider that “the new findings suggest that humans likely took a coastal route.”
That means they were probably seafarers who arrived by boat, possibly from modern-day Russia…”
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vwvParticipantwvParticipantwvParticipantThats good stuff in that last vid. But i think part of that is just….oh….the ‘wisdom’ that comes from age. I dont know that very many young people can learn that. I dunno.
I still dont think Bernie would have won if he had called himself an FDR liberal, or something other than a democratic socialist. There’s only so much ‘good packaging’ can accomplish. The left does have some packaging problems, but thats not the main problem. The main problem is decades and decades of corporate money/propaganda coupled with flat-out force (mccarthyism, capitalist-laws, etc)
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“…The NFL previously had cut the preseason from four games per team to two games per team and was planning for testing every other day.
But the NFL Players Association had been adamant about daily testing for players and no preseason at all.The NFL’s offer Monday of zero preseason games was accompanied by other player-friendly provisions. The acclimation period for veteran players arriving at training camps was increased from seven days to 18 days before they must start practicing, and any player is allowed to opt out of playing this season, according to a person familiar with the deliberations.
Under the testing agreement, players will be tested daily for the first two weeks of training camp. Daily testing will continue as long as the rate of positive tests of players, coaches and other team staffers is above 5%. If the rate falls below 5%, players will be tested every other day. The league expects to receive test results within 24 hours…”
============First off — what the hell is wrong with those NFLlowlife-corporate-Weasel-Owners, who wanted every other day testing. What kind of lowlife Billionaire argues against everyday testing for the players? What pieces of shit.
2nd — this ‘opting out’ thing is important and interesting i think. But what does it mean that a player can ‘opt out’ ? What does it do to their years accrued and all the details of their contracts? At any rate, I’m glad the Union got them an “opt out” rule. It will be interesting to see if any players opt out this year.
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vwvParticipantI can’t tell you how heartbroken I am. A beautiful and courageous human has passed on. I will miss him terribly. https://t.co/jiNW8e5t0M
— Krystal Ball (@krystalball) July 20, 2020
wvParticipantThis is what the internet will miss, now:
———-wvParticipant“The good and just society is neither the thesis of capitalism nor the antithesis of communism, but a socially conscious democracy which reconciles the truths of individualism and collectivism.” — Martin Luther King jr
Kind of the slogan of the principled moderate social democrat.
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I’m ok with Social Democracy,
but without People.w
vwvParticipantI am here outside the Federal Courthouse in Downtown Portland, where a crowd of mothers have gathered again after being tear gassed last night by feds.
This is one of the largest Portland crowds we have seen this month. pic.twitter.com/QuAwj8xvD2
— Robert Evans (The Only Robert Evans) (@IwriteOK) July 20, 2020
wvParticipantJuly 19, 2020 at 11:29 am in reply to: big story coming on the Washington no-name-yet team… scandals brewing #118137wvParticipant“There’s no question it’s a juggling act for the N.F.L.
to maintain their profits while trying to do the right thing,
and there is often a connection between those two things,” said Kim Gandy,
the former chief executive of the National Network to End Domestic Violence who advised the N.F.L. after Rice assaulted his then-fiancée.
=====================Yeah, thats a tough juggling act. Trying to maintain profits, while not abusing women. Yup. Thats a tough one.
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vwvParticipantwvParticipantJus somethin on portland:
July 17, 2020 at 9:27 pm in reply to: big story coming on the Washington no-name-yet team… scandals brewing #118098wvParticipantwvParticipantWill White-Jesus statues be the next to fall?
The long history of how Jesus came to resemble a white European
July 17, 2020
The portrayal of Jesus as a white, European man has come under renewed scrutiny during this period of introspection over the legacy of racism in society.As protesters called for the removal of Confederate statues in the U.S., activist Shaun King went further, suggesting that murals and artwork depicting “white Jesus” should “come down.”
His concerns about the depiction of Christ and how it is used to uphold notions of white supremacy are not isolated. Prominent scholars and the archbishop of Canterbury have called to reconsider Jesus’ portrayal as a white man.
As a European Renaissance art historian, I study the evolving image of Jesus Christ from A.D. 1350 to 1600. Some of the best-known depictions of Christ, from Leonardo da Vinci’s “Last Supper” to Michelangelo’s “Last Judgment” in the Sistine Chapel, were produced during this period.
But the all-time most-reproduced image of Jesus comes from another period. It is Warner Sallman’s light-eyed, light-haired “Head of Christ” from 1940. Sallman, a former commercial artist who created art for advertising campaigns, successfully marketed this picture worldwide…..see link
wvParticipantSagaar on the 13 point polling swing against the Reps and Trump.
Sounds like a Rep Populist in this vid.
wvParticipantTrump wants a “vast garden of american heroes”
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Trump:http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/176728/tomgram%3A_engelhardt%2C_donald_j._trump%2C_or_osama_bin_laden%27s_revenge/“The Bleeding Wound”
Osama bin Laden Won (Twice)
By Tom EngelhardtIt’s July 2020 and I’m about to turn 76, which, as far as I’m concerned, officially makes me an old man. So put up with my aging, wandering brain here, since (I swear) I wasn’t going to start this piece with Donald J. Trump, no matter his latest wild claims or bizarre statements, increasingly white nationalist and pro-Confederate positions (right down to the saving of the rebel stars and bars), not to speak of the Covid-19 slaughter of Americans he’s helped facilitate. But then I read about his demand for a “National Garden of American Heroes,” described as “a vast outdoor park that will feature the statues of the greatest Americans to ever live” and, honestly, though this piece is officially about something else, I just can’t help myself. I had to start there.
Yes, everyone undoubtedly understands why General George Patton (a Trump obsession) is to be in that garden, not to speak — given the president’s reelection politics — of evangelist Billy Graham, Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, and former president Ronald Reagan. Still, my guess is that most of you won’t have the faintest idea why Davy Crockett is included. I’m talking about the frontiersman and Indian killer who died at the Alamo. Given my age, though, I get Donald Trump on this one and it gave me a rare laugh in a distinctly grim moment. That’s why I can’t resist explaining it, even though I guarantee you that the real subject of this piece is Osama bin Laden’s revenge…..see link
July 16, 2020 at 5:19 pm in reply to: big story coming on the Washington no-name-yet team… scandals brewing #118065wvParticipantI’ve been waiting for Tony Kornheiser (Pardon the Interruption) to say something about this. He’s a Washington guy, if I’m not mistaken.
So far, nuthin.
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vwvParticipantA michael bennet quote, fwiw:
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One of my heroes has always been Muhammad Ali. … Ali always stood strongly with the Palestinian people, visiting refugee camps, … and always willing to be a ‘voice for the voiceless.’ I want to be a ‘voice for the voiceless,’ and I cannot do that by going on this kind of trip to Israel.–Michael Bennett, American Super Bowl Champion, activist
link:https://www.bdsmovement.net/news/15-quotes-mark-15-years-bdswvParticipantCaitlin Johnstone, Greg Palast, George Monbiot, Jonathan Cook, Etc.
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