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wvParticipantA michael bennet quote, fwiw:
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One of my heroes has always been Muhammad Ali. … Ali always stood strongly with the Palestinian people, visiting refugee camps, … and always willing to be a ‘voice for the voiceless.’ I want to be a ‘voice for the voiceless,’ and I cannot do that by going on this kind of trip to Israel.–Michael Bennett, American Super Bowl Champion, activist
link:https://www.bdsmovement.net/news/15-quotes-mark-15-years-bds
wvParticipantCaitlin Johnstone, Greg Palast, George Monbiot, Jonathan Cook, Etc.
July 16, 2020 at 11:47 am in reply to: big story coming on the Washington no-name-yet team… scandals brewing #118050
wvParticipantI can see we are going to have quite a few new Name suggestions
once this breaks.I’m counting on The Onion to give this proper attention.
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wvParticipantcanada:https://www.rawstory.com/2020/07/were-polite-but-not-crazy-canadians-demand-border-remain-shut-to-disease-ridden-americans/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4979
‘We’re polite but not crazy!’ Canadians demand border remain shut to disease-ridden AmericansCanada has absolutely crushed the curve on novel coronavirus infections — and Canadians are telling their government to keep the nation’s borders closed to disease-ridden Americans.
Buffalo News reports that a recent poll shows that 81 percent of Canadians want to keep the border between the two countries closed, and that Rep. Brian Higgins (D-NY) garnered furious pushback from Canadian Twitter users earlier this month when he expressed his support to reopening travel between the U.S. and Canada.
wvParticipantEU:https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/apr/27/eu-agrees-total-ban-on-bee-harming-pesticides
EU agrees total ban on bee-harming pesticides
This article is more than 2 years oldThe world’s most widely used insecticides will be banned from all fields within six months, to protect both wild and honeybees that are vital to crop pollination

The ban on neonicotinoids, approved by member nations on Friday, is expected to come into force by the end of 2018 and will mean they can only be used in closed greenhouses.
Bees and other insects are vital for global food production as they pollinate three-quarters of all crops. The plummeting numbers of pollinators in recent years has been blamed, in part, on the widespread use of pesticides. The EU banned the use of neonicotinoids on flowering crops that attract bees, such as oil seed rape, in 2013.
But in February, a major report from the European Union’s scientific risk assessors (Efsa) concluded that the high risk to both honeybees and wild bees resulted from any outdoor use, because the pesticides contaminate soil and water. This leads to the pesticides appearing in wildflowers or succeeding crops. A recent study of honey samples revealed global contamination by neonicotinoids.
wvParticipantShe’s been thru a lot. Tough old bird.
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link:https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/14/ruth-bader-ginsburg-supreme-court-hospital“…The latest news means she has been in hospital twice during the coronavirus outbreak in the US, which has put pressure on hospitals in hotspots with the highest levels of cases, such as New York and now southern states from Florida to California.
She has had a number of health scares in recent years. In November 2018, she broke three ribs in a fall. Subsequent medical tests led to treatment for lung cancer that caused her to miss oral arguments in January 2019. She returned to the bench but said in August that year that she had received radiation therapy to treat pancreatic cancer.
And Ginsburg was admitted to a hospital in November 2019 for two nights suffering from a fever and chills, but she returned to work at the court the day after being released. In January, she said she was cancer free.
The health of the liberal justice is closely watched because a supreme court vacancy would give Donald Trump the opportunity to appoint a third justice to the nine-member court and push it further to the right. The court currently has a 5-4 conservative majority.
Ginsburg was nominated by Bill Clinton in 1993 and only the conservative justice Clarence Thomas, 71, and appointed by George HW Bush in 1991, has served longer among current members of the court.
The supreme court said in a statement later Tuesday that Ginsburg “was initially evaluated at Sibley Memorial Hospital in Washington DC, last night after experiencing fever and chills.
“She underwent an endoscopic procedure at Johns Hopkins this afternoon to clean out a bile duct stent that was placed last August. The justice is resting comfortably and will stay in the hospital for a few days to receive intravenous antibiotic treatment.”
July 14, 2020 at 9:45 pm in reply to: the virus & the education industry (ie. what should schools do) #117997
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wvParticipantJuly 14, 2020 at 8:42 am in reply to: The CDC is an apolitical island that’s defenseless against Trump #117972
wvParticipantWell, I see all that as a subtopic.
The BigTopic would be: “Science-In-A-Corporotacracy- Is such a thing even Possible?”“There’s a culture there that is conducive to being manipulated.” — And that preceding sentence would be the quote at the beginning of every chapter.
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wvParticipantThis is absolutely massive.
The #BlackLivesMatter protest in Paris, France right now. pic.twitter.com/Q1JDcN4HQE
— Sarah Abdallah (@sahouraxo) June 13, 2020
July 13, 2020 at 6:34 pm in reply to: the virus & the education industry (ie. what should schools do) #117957
wvParticipantWhats that line from The Hunt For Red October? You guys know the one i mean.
November cant come soon enough. Jeezus.
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wvParticipantDisney reopening video as an A24 trailer pic.twitter.com/lOawwk2nJa
— Christopher Hudspeth (@CEHudspeth) July 11, 2020
wvParticipantDisneyland’s grand re-opening ad but with music from THE SHINING pic.twitter.com/1pJeJJwmKf
— TODD SPENCE (@Todd_Spence) July 11, 2020
wvParticipantOlder stories…
wvParticipantTucker Carlson’s ‘top writer’ had to resign:https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/10/media/tucker-carlson-writer-blake-neff/index.html
…The top writer for Fox News host Tucker Carlson has for years been using a pseudonym to post bigoted remarks on an online forum that is a hotbed for racist, sexist, and other offensive content, CNN Business learned this week.
Just this week, the writer, Blake Neff, responded to a thread started by another user in 2018 with the subject line, “Would u let a JET BLACK congo n****er do lasik eye surgery on u for 50% off?” Neff wrote, “I wouldn’t get LASIK from an Asian for free, so no.” (The subject line was not censored on the forum.) On June 5, Neff wrote, “Black doods staying inside playing Call of Duty is probably one of the biggest factors keeping crime down.” On June 24, Neff commented, “Honestly given how tired black people always claim to be, maybe the real crisis is their lack of sleep.” On June 26, Neff wrote that the only people who care about changing the name of the NFL’s Washington Redskins are “white libs and their university-‘educated’ pets.” …
wvParticipantI dunno why the Dem-powers-that-be havent done more of THIS. The ‘creepy’ factor.
Its not about policies, in a corporate-idiocracy — its about emotion/gut.Ive been waiting for a long time to see more of this:
wvParticipantThis just sounds so stupid it might be Dem-fake-news.
I dunno:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/13/30-year-old-dies-covid-party-texas30-year-old dies after attending ‘Covid party’ in Texas
Patient said: ‘I think I made a mistake, I thought this was a hoax, but it’s not’, according to health official
“….“Just before the patient died, they looked at their nurse and said ‘I think I made a mistake, I thought this was a hoax, but it’s not,’” said Dr Jane Appleby, the chief medical officer at Methodist hospital in San Antonio.
Appleby said: “I don’t want to be an alarmist, and we’re just trying to share some real-world examples to help our community realise that this virus is very serious and can spread easily.”
Florida reports 15,000 new coronavirus cases, a record single-day total in the US
Read moreA “Covid party” is a gathering held by somebody diagnosed with coronavirus to see if the virus is real and to see if anyone gets infected, she explained.
Appleby said in her filmed comments at the weekend that she had been spurred to reveal the case after seeing a “concerning” rise in infections. She said 22% of tests were revealing a case of Covid-19, up from just 5% a few weeks ago…”
wvParticipantNever even heard of that film. I’ll have to check it out.
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wvParticipantFrom an article written before Judge Preska ordered Giuffre’s lawyers to destroy the files.
Of note to me, was a “John Doe client.” I’ve never heard of such a thing.
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link:https://www.courthousenews.com/sealed-jeffrey-epstein-files-potentially-implicate-hundreds/….Shortly before Jeffrey Epstein was found dead in federal prison, a federal court unsealed a vast trove of files implicating heads of state, elected officials and other elite figures in the wealthy financier’s sex-trafficking web. This list could radically expand should the remainder of sealed files become public, a federal judge heard Wednesday….
…Giuffre claims that Epstein passed her off to powerful figures, including Britain’s Prince Andrew, Harvard professor Alan Dershowitz, New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson, financier Glenn Dubin, model scout Jean-Luc Brunel and former Senator George Mitchell. Those men have denied the allegations.Although Giuffre’s original lawsuit settled years ago with a vast trove of files under seal, the open-records battle it inspired still rages, and an unknown number of other people may still be pulled into the sex-trafficking saga…..
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…Preska instead pressed the lawyers on the specific procedures for releasing files “expeditiously.” She appeared frustrated that the attorneys arrived at today’s hearing without any agreement on any files that could be immediately unsealed.“It sounds like there is some disagreement, your honor,” Giuffre’s attorney Sigrid McCawley told the judge.
“No kidding,” Preska deadpanned.
The day before the hearing, attorneys for an anonymous third party submitted a 7-page letter arguing against throwing new names into what they called a media “frenzy.”
“Unsealing references to non-parties would throw those non-parties into the middle of this frenzy, and unfairly do irreparable harm to their privacy and reputational interests,” attorneys Nicholas Lewin and Paul Krieger wrote for their John Doe client. “Indeed, a vast number of these articles have published unsubstantiated allegations as fact. The careless regurgitation of allegations made under the litigation privilege, and not elsewhere, has the potential to permanently and unjustifiably harm non-parties and their families.”
Since the time of Epstein’s arrest, there have been tens of thousands of news stories written about his case, and more than 230,000 references to his case broadcast on television, the attorneys noted.
Preska ordered the parties to submit written briefings on possible procedures for releasing the files that would gives those named in the documents the opportunity to contest their release.
wvParticipantThis is inter esting. Whitney Webb has studied this stuff for a long time.
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wvParticipantMy high school team (and I played on it for a couple of years–linebacker) was/is burgundy and gold. I’ve always loved burgundy and gold.
We were called the Brebeuf Braves.
The school was named after St. Jean de Brebeuf, who was martyred by the Iroquis.So “Braves” was an interesting nickname choice.
A rich donor commissioned a painting in the school cafeteria of a patiently enduring St. Jean tied to a stake and being ruthlessly tortured by Iroquis…braves. The painting was wall sized and took up one entire whole end of the room.
Fortunately, another rich donor gifted the school a huge curtain to close in front of the painting, so we could eat in peace.
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All very inter esting. So many tribes on this planet, over the centuries. So many issues. Maybe teams should just go with Vegetable names. Vegetable never committed any atrocities as far as i know.
The Wiki story below has Too many Ironies to even begin to unvavel. I am in awe of the many ironies.
And it all ends up on an American high school football helmet.
“….His efforts to develop a complete ethnographic record of the Huron has been described as “the longest and most ambitious piece of ethnographic description in all The Jesuit Relations”.[10] Brébeuf tried to find parallels between the Huron religion and Christianity, so as to facilitate conversion of the Huron to the European religion.[11] Brébeuf was known by the Huron for his apparent shamanistic skills, especially in rainmaking.[12] Despite his efforts to learn their ways, he considered Huron spiritual beliefs to be undeveloped and “foolish delusions”; he was determined to convert them to Christianity.[8] Brébeuf did not enjoy universal popularity with the Huron, as many believed he was a sorcerer.[13] By 1640, nearly half the Huron had died of smallpox and the losses disrupted their society. Many children and elders died. With their loved ones dying before their eyes, many Huron began to listen to the words of Jesuit missionaries who, unaffected by the disease, appeared to be men of great power.[14]
Brébeuf’s progress as a missionary in achieving conversions was slow…
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…..The Jesuits considered the priests’ martyrdom as proof that the mission to the Native Americans was blessed by God and would be successful.[30]Throughout the torture, Brébeuf was reported to have been more concerned for the fate of the other Jesuits and of the captive Native converts than for himself. As part of the ritual, the Iroquois drank his blood and ate his heart, as they wanted to absorb Brébeuf’s courage in enduring the pain.[31] The Iroquois mocked baptism by pouring boiling water over his head.[32]….” Wiki
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wvParticipantHoly Shit, i hadnt thought of the issues with the Texas Rangers. Damn.
That one went right over my head until now. Oblivious.
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A New History Tears Down the Myth of the Texas Rangers
Monica Muñoz Martinez’s new book paints a brutally clear picture of the Rangers’ complicity in crimes against minorities.“….Martinez traces the group’s history from its relatively humble beginnings in the 1830s — as a small band of armed men organized by Stephen F. Austin to protect settlers — to what it had become by the late 19th century: a state-sponsored terror squad directed to secure white racial hegemony along the Texas-Mexico border.
Martinez organizes her book around the most egregious extrajudicial killings of Mexicans in Texas in the late 19th to early 20th centuries, incidents that Texas Rangers were either directly responsible for or carried out in cahoots with lynch mobs or local authorities. The 1910 burning-at-the-stake of Antonio Rodriguez in Rocksprings, the double murder of prosperous rancheros Jesus Bazan and Antonio Longoria at Guadalupe Ranch, and the 1918 midnight massacre of 15 unarmed Mexicans by Texas Rangers in Porvenir are the most extensively studied atrocities in the book. But these are just a few of Martinez’s many examples of lynchings, burnings, shootings, proxy killings and other unjustified anti-Mexican violence carried out by Texas Rangers, vigilante mobs, or both.
Martinez’s research posits the height of Texas Ranger violence against Mexicans to have occurred from 1915 to 1919. Some 300 ethnic Mexicans were murdered between 1915 and 1916 alone. These dates coincided with the reign of not only the disgraced governor James “Pa” Ferguson but also, starting in 1917, the often-venerated William P. Hobby. Martinez is appropriately unsparing in her detailing of Hobby’s consistently anti-Hispanic, anti-NAACP agenda: In short, he used the Rangers as his own personal goon squad in instigating intimidation tactics against minorities. Hobby presided over an era that, according to Martinez, saw the “widespread practice of executing landowning [Hispanic] men to force the sale of land by their widows through threats of physical violence”— much of said violence aided and abetted (if not directly perpetrated) by the Rangers with official state consent. Powerful U.S. political elites like Hobby made sure that any serious investigation of Ranger crimes through official legal channels would be doomed to failure.
Martinez also retrieves from the dustbin of history once-notorious Texas public officials like U.S. Representative Claude Benton Hudspeth, whose racist rhetoric painted Mexicans as “bandits” — an interesting historical precedent for hater-in-chief Donald Trump’s infamous insults. Also not unlike Trump, Hudspeth concocted a phony immigration crisis based on xenophobic fear. With the aid of Governor Hobby, he mobilized the Texas Rangers to end an era of liberalism along the border and secure economic prosperity for white settlers by keeping Mexicans out. Martinez makes the salient point that this border region was once a “semiautonomous” cross-cultural zone characterized by free movement and friendly socioeconomic exchange; yet by around 1915, through Texas lawmakers’ efforts, the region had become a “political and social boundary.” And most Mexicans still living there found themselves “overwhelmingly relegated to manual labor.”…see link
wvParticipantlink:https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/11/politics/what-matters-july-10/index.html
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Are there actually any undecided voters?
What Matters: I don’t know anyone who doesn’t have an opinion about Trump. Is there a universe of undecided people who will decide the election?JA: Not very many. And the downside for Trump is that as an incumbent, views on him are likely to matter far more than views on Biden. One of the most fascinating things about the 2016 exit poll results was that voters who view both Trump and Hillary Clinton unfavorably broke heavily toward Trump, and there were even a decently sized set of voters who felt Trump was not qualified to be president, but still voted for him.
As a sitting President, it’s unlikely that Trump would get the benefit of the doubt from those voters again has he not convinced them he deserves to remain in office.
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One last question
What Matters: I’m asking for a wild guess here, but what are the odds we know the identity of the next President on Election Night?JA: Oh to know the answer to that question!
At this point, it seems unlikely that we’ll know the outcome on Election Night itself. While a number of key battlegrounds are used to processing a lot of absentee or early votes (Florida and Arizona most notably, where majorities typically vote absentee or early), several other critical states for the electoral college count are relatively new to the absentee ballot process. In Pennsylvania, for example, just 8% of voters cast ballots absentee or early in 2016, in New Hampshire, it was 10%, in Virginia, 13%, and in Michigan, Minnesota and Wisconsin, it was around a quarter of voters — which suggests their counts could be slower than usual if those numbers spike dramatically.
One growing trend in recent elections is that vote preferences among those who vote in-person are often different from those who vote absentee or early, and the politicization of behavior in the coronavirus era seems as if it could exacerbate those differences, making it difficult to project races until there is a solid number of reports from both groups of voters.
wvParticipant“Stalin had higher positives and lower negatives than Yeltsin….”
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“….Secondly, in terms of finances, they might as well have had unlimited refills. Forget fundraising dinners and appealing to donors, never mind Russia’s electoral law that supposedly capped campaign spending at $3 million for each presidential candidate (as an interesting aside, the communists did, in fact, abide by this rule, although that likely had more to do with their empty coffers as opposed to, say, actually feeling morally obligated to adhere to said provision than anything else), for as was the case with a great deal of the members within the fourth estate, the fear of a communist victory was such that the Oligarchs, as to who, at the bare minimum, likely stood to face both jail time and the loss of their considerable wealth in the wake of a triumph by Zyuganov #DroppingRhymes, did everything in their power so as to ensure a Yeltsin victory, putting up somewhere between $700 million and $2 billion, according to estimates, to finance the campaign. Yeah…
Finally, Gorton, Dresner, Shumate, and, obviously, Yeltsin, by extension, greatly benefited from the contributions that were made by many of the latter’s minions, as to who pulled out all the stops — legal or otherwise — in order to deliver a w for the president. Among the favorite tactics employed by these goons included “[the] cancellation of hotel reservations made by the Zyuganov campaign, issuing false invitations to Zyuganov press conferences with the wrong times, and the publication and distribution of fake extremist Communist programs.” Even better, “The Communist candidate’s speeches and position papers were blacked out in the major media, and voters could learn about Zyuganov’s program only if they happened upon a rally or leaflet.” Noice.
At the same time, however, all of the dirrty money and political black ops in the world could do nothing to remove Yeltsin from his precarious political predicament, for as the team soon discovered upon conducting their own analysis primarily by, you know, asking questions of actual substance, it wasn’t just that the majority of the Russian people didn’t like the guy #DoubleNegative — it was that they justifiably saw him as “a friend who had betrayed them, a populist who had become imperial[,]” to further borrow from Kramer’s article, and there was more bad news. According to Dresner, “Stalin had higher positives and lower negatives than Yeltsin. We actually tested the two in polls and focus groups. More than 60% of the electorate believed Yeltsin was corrupt; more than 65% believed he had wrecked the economy. We were in a deep, deep hole.”
Still, it didn’t exactly take an experienced pollster to recognize that the issue that had the entire country — mobsters and oligarchs, etc., notwithstanding, of course — understandably seething was of the economic variety (even those same Russian newspapers with the empty statistical findings were on top of the matter). More specifically, Russkies were all up in arms over the dire financial straits #MoneyForNothing that had beset government workers as to who hadn’t seen a paycheck in MONTHS despite Yeltsin promising to remedy the situation in a development that might as well have induced a Dresner facepalm but nevertheless provided the team with a teachable, if not also as to what one would think should have made for a classic “Captain Obvious”, moment. As Dresner explained to Dyachenko, “You can’t just promise these things. You have to do them. And then you have to make sure the people know what you’ve done.”
In order to accomplish this relative to the criminal economic deprivation that was facing the aforementioned members of the proletariat (sorry, it’s just too easy), the triad advised Yeltsin to, in the political equivalent of flogging someone in a public square/Village Green, chastise those officials as to who had failed to apportion the money that had been earmarked for said salary arrears as per his instructions — a proposal that both Yeltsin and the press were all too happy to implement and cover, respectively.
Yet even so, while such a feel-good PR exercise might have looked great for the cameras and bought the president some desperately needed political capital, without the money that was needed to actually alleviate said financial suffering the entire undertaking would have been seen as yet another empty gesture, and it was at this pivotal point wherein the Clinton connection paid crucial dividends (no pun intended), although you wouldn’t know it from reading Time’s featured report, which is rather curious given that the whole lipstick on a pig scenario was certainly not lost on other reputable news outlets such as The New York Times and The Washington Post, never mind esteemed Kremlinologist Lilia Shevtsova.
Strong-armed by the administration, and in a move that was aptly characterized by Michael Dobbs in The WaPo as “an expression of political support by Western governments for Russian leader Boris Yeltsin in advance of presidential elections in June[,]” the normally, or at least outwardly, politically neutral International Monetary Fund became, with a single transaction, Boris’ single largest donor by approving a loan for $10.2 billion (the second largest loan of its kind in IMF history to that point, by the way, that was only superseded by the one that was given to Mexico in 1995 for $17.8 billion), with a crucial installment of more than $4 billion being made available during that first year, thereby enabling Yeltsin to repay $2.8 billion in back wages as well as giving him the ability to follow through on his promise to increase spending on social programs. Sidebar — there were social programs in Russia during the ‘90s?
Even at the time, the sentiment that was expressed by many Russian political experts and as to which has subsequently been substantiated by history was that without the sudden infusion of Das Kapital #SorryNotSorry, Yeltsin almost assuredly would have lost — possibly in the first round — and the West went still further to influence the outcome of the election. While privately the U.S. Ambassador to Russia, Thomas Pickering, unsuccessfully attempted to persuade Grigory Yavlinsky, a democratic candidate as to who presented a considerable threat to Yeltsin, to back out of the first round so as to increase the odds of success for Boris Nikolayevich, the then-managing director of the IMF, Michel Camdessus, went out of his way to state that not only was the aforesaid loan hardly a blank check, but also, and more importantly, that should “a new Government” come to power that would fail to adhere to “the commitments of Russia established in these documents,” that their “support would be interrupted[,]” thereby essentially blackmailing the Russian populace into voting for Yeltsin, and the results spoke for themselves in the opinion polls that were conducted by ROMIR (Russian Opinion and Market Research) in which the amount of support for the president more than doubled from a paltry 8% on February 18 to 17% on March 17, and suddenly the campaign had traction.
From there, and in order to capitalize on their newfound momentum, the team knew that it needed to …see link
Link:https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/from-russia-with-revenge-536b25921ca6
wvParticipantlink:https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/07/isnt-hillary-clintons-polling/613690/
Believe the Polls This TimeThese aren’t Hillary Clinton’s numbers. Biden has a wide lead because the landscape has changed.
July 2, 2020
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Political strategist and polling adviser“…So one reason to trust my polls more now than in 2016 is this change: Four years ago, those without a four-year degree made up 48 percent of my survey respondents; today they account for 60 percent. Whites without a college degree were 33 percent of my surveys; today they are 43 percent. That is a huge change—an elixir against being deceived again. The pain of Trump’s victory and disastrous presidency has concentrated the minds of campaign staff and the polling profession in ways that give me confidence that Biden’s lead in the polls is real.
But much more important than all of that is the sustained, unwavering, and extremely well-documented opposition of the American people to every element of Donald Trump’s sexist, nativist, and racist vision. Indeed, the public’s deep aversion to Trumpism explains why Biden has such a poll lead…
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Trump has a point about the pollsSome pollsters are still grappling with the same problems that plagued battleground state surveys four years ago.
link:https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/17/trump-polls-biden-324210
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……..But some pollsters, especially the relatively few who conduct surveys in battleground states, are still grappling with the problems that plagued those polls four years ago. In fact, most pollsters believe that, on balance, state polls are overstating the scale of Biden’s advantage.That was precisely the problem in 2016: The national polls were largely accurate, to within the margin of error. But there were too few state polls, and many of those that were conducted failed to collect accurate data, especially from white voters without college degrees in key swing states.
And those issues haven’t been fixed.
“I would say that most, if not all, of the concerns that we expressed still hold — some to a lesser degree,” said Courtney Kennedy, director of research at the Pew Research Center and lead author of the polling industry’s post-2016 autopsy. “But I think some of the fundamental, structural challenges that came to a head in 2016 are still in place in 2020.”
Polling errors are not uncommon in presidential elections. But pollsters see a real risk this year that the mistakes of 2016 will be repeated. Their colleagues still are not accounting for the fact that voters with greater educational attainment are more likely to complete surveys — and more likely to vote for Democratic candidates.
“There’s still a number of state polls, in particular, that are not fixing this issue,” said Kennedy.
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…….. — the problem that pollsters identified in 2016 remains. Not enough surveys are being conducted in the battleground states, and those that exist are failing to account for a key political dynamic of modern politics, especially in the Trump era: the rapid movement of lower-income white voters to Republicans and upscale whites to Democrats.Pollsters are looking for answers. One of the major takeaways of the American Association for Public Opinion Research’s post-2016 autopsy was that state polls that didn’t weight, or adjust, their samples to include more white voters who hadn’t graduated college missed a key element of Trump’s coalition. In previous elections, the differences in white voters’ preferences along educational lines were smaller, but they began to grow during the past decade and accelerated with Trump on the ballot in 2016.
“Before 2014, it wasn’t that big of a deal because the reality is non-college white voters and college-educated white voters — the distinction between the two wasn’t as dramatic,” said Democratic pollster Jefrey Pollock. “But starting with 2014, that began to cleave a lot and is now obviously humongous.”
GOP pollster Glen Bolger said he believes a combination of pollsters’ inability to get the right educational mix and to persuade potential Trump voters to respond and answer truthfully to phone polls is pointing their surveys in a slightly Democratic direction.
“I don’t know how big the effect is. I also don’t know what the ratio is between it being ‘shy Trump’ voters and interviewing too many college graduates and not enough non-college grads,” Bolger said. “But I do think those are factors in some of the polls that show a particularly wide lead for Biden at this point in time. And I do think that things will be closer in the states than the polls indicate right now.”
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……At last week’s annual convention of the American Association of Public Opinion Research — held online because of the coronavirus pandemic — Nate Cohn, the New York Times data journalist who has worked with Siena College on their multimillion-dollar polling partnership, observed that the state polls leaned way too far toward Democrats in 2014 and 2016. In 2018, he said, the polls were more accurate but still showed a Democratic slant, especially “in a number of white, working-class states,” like Indiana and Ohio.
And, Cohn noted in his presentation, it might be happening again this year.
“So far in 2020, it sure seems like Joe Biden is faring particularly well in the states where the polls were most biased toward Hillary Clinton four years ago,” Cohn told the virtual attendees.
As if on cue, a new poll was released in Michigan on Tuesday: It showed Biden ahead by a whopping 16 points.
wvParticipantJust some tidbits that interested me:
“….Their expertise and methodology no longer in question, and with the campaign’s theme now finally cemented, the troupe sought to further fine-tune their approach by tasking their focus-group coordinator, Alexei Levinson, with identifying the electorate’s underlying fear of the Communists; and while “Long lines, scarce food and [the] renationalization of property” were among the chief concerns that were cited by the citizenry, the subject that made for the most trepidation was the prospect of civil war, which proved to be the team’s, as well as Yeltsin’s, in. As Shumate explained, “That allowed us to move beyond simple Red bashing. That’s why Yeltsin and his surrogates and our advertising all highlighted the possibility of unrest if Yeltsin lost. Many people felt some nostalgia for what the communists had done for Russia and no one liked the President — but they liked the possibility of riots and class warfare even less.” Said Dresner, “ ‘Stick with Yeltsin and at least you’ll have calm’ — that was the line we wanted to convey. So the drumbeat about unrest kept pounding right till the end of the run-off round, when the final TV spots were all about the Soviets’ repressive rule.”…
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……By “it became public”, of course, Morris was seemingly attempting to gloss over a rather embarrassing episode for the administration that not only threatened to put the kibosh on the entire operation but also had all the makings of a geopolitical disaster. In late March of 1996, a classified memo from the State Department which documented a private powwow between Bill and Boris that had occurred only about two weeks earlier at the anti-terrorism summit in Sharm el-Sheikh, Egypt, as to where the two heads of state had promised to assist each other in their respective re-election bids with Clinton saying during the meeting that “he wanted to make sure that everything the United States did would have a positive impact, and nothing should have a negative impact. The main thing is that the two sides not do anything that would harm the other,” was leaked to the Washington Times, prompting congressional outrage with the White House interestingly characterizing the security breach as a “violation of federal law”, while also conveniently failing to mention that the content of the document in question was in clear violation of international law, and calling on the Justice Department to conduct an official inquiry into the matter…..see link.link:https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/from-russia-with-revenge-536b25921ca6
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“….According to political analyst and former Hillary Clinton confidant Dick Morris, in 1996 the then US President Bill Clinton meddled in Russian affairs, helping Yeltsin get elected to a second term. Morris said:When I worked for Clinton, Clinton called me and said, ‘I want to get Yeltsin elected as president of Russia against Gennady Zyuganov, who was the communist who was running against him. Putin was Zyuganov’s major backer… It became public that Clinton would meet with me every week. We would review the polling that was being done for Yeltsin that was being done by a colleague of mine, who was sending it to me every week. We, Clinton and I, would go through it and Bill would pick up the hotline and talk to Yeltsin and tell him what commercials to run, where to campaign, what positions to take. He basically became Yeltsin’s political consultant….
Morris believes that Putin resented the intervention at the time by Bill Clinton and took his revenge out on Hillary Clinton. Although there is no indication of this belief from Putin himself, it seems like 2016 was karmic payback for 1996…
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