Billy_T wrote:

…Of course, we don’t know what the Dem establishment does (or did) behind the scenes, but at least they’re publicly supporting their leftward most flank. That’s encouraging.

Baby steps, etc.

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We know the 99 to 1 number. Whats the algebra in the House. How many leftist-squad members are there, compared to the Dem/Rep Corporatist-Biosphere-Killers ?

I’ve been trying to figure it out. Its harder than i thought because there’s so many ways to define progressive/radical/leftist, etc.

If we look at the term ‘Democratic Socialist’ its easy – the algebra is:

432 to 3.

AOC, Talib, and….Danny Davis? Why have i never heard of fucking Danny Davis?
From Illinois, since 1997.

link:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Democratic_Socialists_of_America_members_who_have_held_office_in_the_United_States
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Cornell, talking the usual leftist-talk. Which is good, of course.

“i dont endorse them, i vote for them…”
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Saw the title and i thot it was an Onion article.

Remember when the Onion used to seem surreal?

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trump:https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/12/us-shower-pressure-trump-hair-water
US proposes change to shower rules after Trump’s hair-washing moan

President believes shower water does not flow fast enough
‘My hair … I don’t know about you, but it has to be perfect’

The US president’s hair-washing complaints on Wednesday prompted the government to propose an easing of shower pressure standards.

The Trump administration proposed rule changes that would allow shower heads to boost water pressure, after Donald Trump repeatedly complained that bathroom fixtures do not work to his liking.

The Department of Energy plan followed comments from Trump last month at a White House event on rolling back regulations. He said he believed water does not come out fast enough from fixtures.

“So what do you do? You just stand there longer or you take a shower longer? Because my hair – I don’t know about you, but it has to be perfect,” he said.

Last December, Trump said environmental regulators were looking at sinks, faucets and toilets to revise rules meant to conserve water and fuel that heats it.

“People are flushing toilets 10 times, 15 times, as opposed to once,” Trump told a meeting of small business leaders at the White House.

Consumer groups decried the plan, saying current rules saved consumers money by conserving water and fuel.

The proposal would effectively allow shower fixtures to include multiple shower heads that would get around the 2.5 gallon per minute standard Congress set in 1992, when Trump’s fellow Republican George HW Bush was president.

The energy department also proposed easier standards on washing machines. The Trump administration says its regulatory rollbacks save average American households $3,100 a year. But conservationists say easing bathroom fixture standards could boost energy and water costs.

It was uncertain whether the plan would be finalized. Trump is campaigning for reelection and trails in opinion polls ahead of the vote on 3 November. If he wins and the proposal advances it could also face court battles.

Interesting stuff.

Canberra Times. Good work.

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Billy_T wrote:

I get that, ZN. You are probably right about “not going there,” basically.

Apologies if I misread you . . . but in this case, ironically, the discussant is one of those “liberal Dems.” Not a righty by any means. Despises them, when it comes to politics in general.
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BT, comrad…its ALWAYS the liberal-Dems, LoL.

I got nuthin. I mean, i have been a ‘leftist’ for, say, a quarter of a century or so, and i have just pretty much, for-the-most-part, given up talking politics with anyone other than two groups: 1) Young, impressionable humans, who are still forming their ideas, and 2) Comrades.

I mainly just stick to gardening, sports, movies, whatever, with non-comrades.

…heck, i dont even like american-people, anymore. I like bats, moss, and tapirs.

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“I’m tired of this back-slappin’ “isn’t humanity neat” bullshit. We’re a virus with shoes.”
― Bill Hicks

“I hate mankind, for I think myself one of the best of them, and I know how bad I am.”
― Samuel Johnson

The rightwing view:
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zn wrote:

In Portland, some Black activists frustrated with white protesters

….an internal Department of Homeland Security memo indicated the federal agents didn’t understand the nature of the protests, particularly those attacking the courthouse.
“We lack insight into the motives for the most recent attacks,” the memo said.
“There are two different protests. This is beautiful,” said Ngee Gow, 22,…
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….“It’s about Black lives. Period,” Gow said. “If you really want to respect Black lives, and if you really want to respect Breonna Taylor and George Floyd, then you’d be listening to the movement instead of antagonizing police.”

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So many cross-currents and layers.

America’s Political-IQ is so damn low. Not an accident.

For BIG change to happen,
first there would have to actually BE a left in America.
That would take Magic.
And second the Magical-Left would have to actually VOTE.

Until then we will see ‘uprisings’ like BLM and Occupy,
and the system will wait them out, watch them dissipate, and eat themselves,
as it rolls along toward biosphere-doom.

Ok, have a nice day.

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Something new for the worriers to worry about – the gun issue. Will this hurt Biden?

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Yeah, like zn said, keep us updated.

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