zn wrote:

Okay. I’m not sure the degrees of difference between qbs are big ones though. I think there’s guys who can often (not always) handle it (Brady, Wilson) and then everyone else–with maybe nuances of difference between and among everyone else.

But with minor differences I think we’re saying more or less the same thing, so, no board war. Of course if Ozone is right (post before mine) the scheme factors into this too. Right now the scheme looks like it’s easy for some defenses to shut down. Could be.

jourdan rodrigue wrote an article. either yesterday or today. describing how mcvay went from scrapping any kind of a vertical passing game to going almost exclusively horizontal. i wonder if defenses have figured it out and are sitting on these short routes.

https://theathletic.com/2287161/2020/12/28/jared-goff-john-wolford-thumb/

i don’t know if i can copy and paste the article. it’s a paysite.

the Rams re-worked their offense this season to operate more efficiently. They wanted to minimize low-probability air-yards plays downfield, have lots of low concepts for high-efficiency plays and minimize turnovers. That's all they are asking for, is to not turn the ball over.

— Jourdan Rodrigue (@JourdanRodrigue) December 27, 2020

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Zooey wrote:

Wilson is better than Goff.

yeah. it’s not a question of toughness or will to win here. wilson is just a better qb than goff. he’s a hall of famer. he’s one of the best in the last 10 years or so. it’s not a question of if goff is as tough as wilson. wilson’s an elite qb.

Zooey wrote:

Yep. They had good starting position frequently.

And they didn’t turn over the ball. The Rams, crucially, did turn it over on a drive that would have ended in points.

And they stuffed the Rams twice from inside the one.

Ball game.

several key plays.

1. darious williams misses an interception i think in the first quarter. right in the bread basket. and i’m pretty sure he takes it to the house if he doesn’t take off running before securing the ball.

2. goff throws an interception in the second quarter that most likely takes 3 points away from the rams.

ok. right there that puts the rams up 16-6 going into the second half.

3. rams get stuffed two times and fail to score a td from the 1 yard line. i think that was the third quarter?

4. seahawks. wilson leads seattle on a clutch td drive to ice the game.

that’s 24 points right there.

Eternal Ramnation wrote:

Imo the coaching since the Pats game has completely collapsed. These guys just aren’t ready to play maybe the pandemic taking its toll or injuries but they just don’t look sharp. How many times did Goff have to get them lined up? Drops , blown coverages missed tackles missed blocks idiotic play calls over and over. They used to be known as a well coached team now they look like a team that doesn’t practice.

every team has to deal with the same problems though. i don’t know. it’s all been very depressing.

having said that they have a real good chance to go 11-5…

oh wait. goff broke the thumb on his throwing hand…

zn wrote:

Looking just at INTs, the 9 in 13 games = an INT percentage of 2.2%. Tomorrow when all of today’s stats are in it will be possible to say where that would rank in the league. It won’t be high but it won’t be one of the lowest either.

it would still rank 21st. it’s too many turnovers.

this is pretty clear i think. even after taking out those two games.

with those 2 games, he ranks 23rd.

ypa ranks 21st

passer rating ranks 26th

this is all including today’s game.

is he as bad as those rankings suggest? i don’t think so. i think he’s better than that. it’s frustrating for sure. but there’s better days to come for goff.

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Hram wrote:

I dunno Invader. It seemed like around 1/3rd of the game we gave them the ball between the 40 and 50 yet still held them to 20 points. I think the defense played great.

if they get at least one turnover. let’s say that dwill int drop that probably goes in for a td. if they don’t give up that huge td at the end when the game was still in the balance. then i’d say great.

but they played good. good enough. but the offense played like crap.

Hram wrote:

Defense played great.

they played good. i wouldn’t say great. but they played good.

offense was terrible. absolutely terrible. left at least 10 points on the board. at the very least.

this sucked. this totally sucked.

zn wrote:

Like, did Kurt just watch the Jets game and then act like the only issue in that game was the qb? And then leap to conclusions about the entire season?

i think when defenses are able to shut down the play action goff does tend to struggle.

but i also agree with you. i think this whole offense struggles. the oline. mcvay. it’s not just goff. the problem is then these get compounded by turnovers on top of that.

goff’s rating with play action. 102.0.

without play action. 87.9.

zn wrote:

Turnovers, turnovers, turnovers. If I could only pick one thing to fix, among all that has bothered this offense (and special teams) this season, and that I believed would get the Rams on their way to a deep playoff run, that would be it.

yup.

when the running game isn’t clicking this offense stalls. i think that includes the oline, goff, and the playcalling.

all three of those components rely on the play action offense working.

that’s just my opinion.

zn wrote:

Rams to wear long-awaited new uniform combo vs. Jets

ok. so i thought that there were only a couple color combinations that they were allowed? isn’t that what they said a year ago?

zn wrote:

Seth Walder@SethWalder
Aaron Donald has been double-teamed on 70% of his pass rushes as a defensive tackle this season, the highest rate in the league.

But despite that, Aaron Donald also has a 23% pass rush win rate as a defensive tackle this season, the highest in the league.

ReddingRam@ReddingRam
Low key … The Rams Defense has been even better since A’Shawn Robinson has been in the line up. I don’t see it mentioned much. But the rotation on the DL has been stronger and the ILB play has even been better. I would love for him to stick around.

aaron donald is a transcendent talent. i know i keep repeating myself. but he’s truly a transcendent talent.

i suspect that robinson was not used correctly in detroit? it’d be nice if they could keep him a couple more years.

zn wrote:

Do you do that with the 24th ranked qb? Or, as I said, is he more likely to play like the 10th ranked qb, which is what he did in the other 10 games not the 3 bad ones?

i think he is somewhere in between. closer to 10.

more on the 10 yard split.

if you look at all the top running backs. mccaffrey. cook. most of them are in the 1.5’s or higher.

in fact. looking back. the only sub 1.50 second running back i could find was edgerrin james who ran a 1.49 10 yard split. besides johnson of course. but again. chris johnson measured in at under 200 pounds at the time. james weighed in at 216 pounds during his combine.

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zn wrote:

Stu Jackson@StuJRams
Tonight’s victory clinched the Rams’ fourth-straight season with a winning record under Sean McVay.

goff too.

who’s the last head coach to do that for the rams?

who’s the last quarterback?