PA Ram wrote:

If the Raiders come, what are the odds of one city having 3 incompetent NFL owners in a single generation. Geez!
by Bob in Denver 4:11 PM

You made me laugh out loud with this one. And imagine what the stadium would look like, with a ring of honor for Cardinals, Rams, and Raiders!

This is kind of sad for a team’s legacy, particularly the players involved. They become memories of a ghost town. Yes–they may be appreciated for what they did but their attachment to the city is dead, really, because the team itself is dead and if anything people probably would prefer not to think about the team that left them.

And the new city? Well, the GSOT never happened there.

I feel like a nomad fan for a nomad team.

Speaking for myself, it doesn’t matter. I’ve always been a nomad fan–never picked the local team to follow. But there are people who do, and I appreciate that. Kids who grew up going to games with their mom and dad and part of that experience is WHY they are fans.

I know some people could care less about the fans of St. Louis and will be quick to say that the fans of St. Louis didn’t care about THEM when the Rams moved from L.A.

I get that.

But the process and practice of moving NFL teams should make everyone a little sick.

not so much the relocation. but yeah the process of holding a city hostage. trying to squeeze as much as you can out of them. that sucks hard.

i’m expecting a big year from robinson. rams need to start hitting on these first rounders. big time. especially robinson given that he’s on the oline.

i’m not sure it needed simplification as much as some guys like ogletree and jenkins need to get their heads right.

ogletree needs to show up in shape. jenkins needs to not gamble so much.

oh and brockers needs to keep his weight up.

i worry about those alabama backs although ingram had a good 2014.

they do need to pick a running back somewhere though.

get him and collins. robinson saffold collins barksdale. that’d be a nice line to run behind. barnes or jones at center?

yeah. the one thing i would definitely disagree with is i think they’re a little too optimistic about the league doing the honorable thing.

i don’t think i’d put the chances of the rams staying at an even 50-50.

mr. kroenke. he’s the devil.

yeah. he has positioned himself well. and he gives the league many options. the league is very happy with stan.

that was a good listen.

i agree with a lot of what they say.

what is snead’s record? the only pro bowler i can think of is donald.

i’m curious as to what the rams think about hundley. as far as measurables go he’s about as ideal as you can get. you just wonder about the mental aspect.

i agree. i’m feeling pretty positive about foles right now. i think they do need to improve the running game as well but yeah. if they can fix the oline. foles should exceed expectations.

it will be what’s best for the league. they couldn’t ask for a better situation what with three teams with southern california connections. the one sure thing is the chargers. they’re already based in this area. i think it’s a no brainer.

so then it comes down to the rams and raiders.

i think the rams win in almost every category.

they have a long history in los angeles. it should be much easier establishing a fan base.

and as much as fans aren’t fond of stan he’s the stronger owner at least in the eyes of the league.

i have a hard time believing spanos and davis will come up with a better stadium plan in carson.

while raider nation has a strong fan base i believe they are largely irrelevant in the eyes of corporate sponsors. i don’t think the owners will shed too many tears if the raider brand is gone. meanwhile they can draw upon a strong ram brand in los angeles. yeah it was a long time ago but it makes for good nostalgia. there’s a strong connection there.

so what happens with the raiders. like i said. the nfl doesn’t need the raider brand anymore. they can rebrand them as the stallions and send them to st louis. a natural rivalry can be established in missouri with the chiefs. the preseason rivalry was nice but largely irrelevant but now you get a true division rivalry between kansas city and st louis in the afc west. that’s something corporate sponsors could get behind? i think so. it’s something fans in missouri could definitely get behind. rams niners rivalry? sure. but i’m not sure st louis fans really truly got behind that.

does that sound like something the league would get behind? to me it makes sense. just a hunch.

zn wrote:

InvaderRam wrote:

does it simplify the protection schemes?

They didn’t say anything about changing schemes.

It was all about terminology and volume. I assume that means volume of terms you need to know to know a given play?

i wonder what that means for tavon. will that unleash tavon? if he doesn’t need to know as much on a given play?

yeah. i would like cooper. even a 4.42 cooper. plus he’s got the big hands! ha!

wv wrote:

InvaderRam wrote:

well if we’ve learned anything it’s that the nfl has no integrity.

Well, i am not sure there is such a thing
as a mega-corporation with ‘integrity’ — but
i shall spare us all
my speech on that…

A lot of fans have already figured out
you haf ta kinda follow the ‘players/team’
and not the ‘Corporate-NFL/Owners’
Its tricky but it can be done.

A lot of California ram fans managed
to do that when Georgia moved the team.
A lot of Missouri fans may learn to do
that if the Rams move back.

We need to start passing out ‘Nomad”
t-shirts or somethin.

w
v

or some fans have that feeling of pride in their city. and not necessarily the players or the owners.

for me it’s the horns on the helmet.

with the cardinals. it’s the birds on the bat.

now if the rams get rid of those horns. that will crush me.

i don’t know what the key to unlock tavon is, but if there is one, the rams better find it. he’s doing alright, but he can do better.

whether it be a tall quarterback. or getting a better offensive line. or a better running game to get the play action going. maybe frank cignetti has some ideas schotty didn’t.

More on Kroenke’s two-team stadium:

“It could be a thing to split up the Raiders-Chargers alliance in Carson, Calif.”

Say St. Louis builds a stadium and owners don’t approve of Kroenke relocating team. Could he really show his face as the owner of the St. Louis Rams after all this? Woudn’t that be awkward?

“It would be awkward, but how often do you see him now? I don’t think it really changes that much. If St. Louis comes through with this stadium plan, if they get the financing, it will be very hard for the league to turn its back on St. Louis. The league’s not stupid. The old sports cliche, ‘St. Louis controls its own destiny,’ it’s still very true as we sit here right now.”

it could also be used as leverage if any other future team wants a new stadium. assuming the raiders and chargers stay in their cities. and a real tangible state of the art stadium will raise the stakes even higher.

i don’t think the owners want the rams to move to st. louis. but i think it will end up being the best of two options. i think the other owners are every bit as ruthless as kroenke. i really do. and when it comes down to it. they’ll have no problems turning their backs on st. louis. maybe they’ll prove me wrong.