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    also need to see if bailey and austin can make some strides. does greg robinson make strides. can brian quick come back healthy.

    so many things need to happen… but the potential is there. i don’t think it was before.

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    i think the key is a top 5 rushing offense. if the rams can do that, then we see something closer to the 2013 foles than the 2014 version.

    and then yeah. i’m thinking playoffs… maybe not anything like 1999. but yeah. playoffs.

    in order for that to happen, the oline has to be fixed, gurley has to be healthy, and gurley has to live up to the hype.

    should be exciting.

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    great post isiah. and might i add.

    gurley is not just a potentially special player. he’s a potentially special player who fits fisher’s vision. his style of football.

    his offenses have been defined by the likes of eddie george, chris johnson, and to a lesser extent steven jackson. dare i say. gurley might bring elements of all three of those running backs to the table.

    i’m dreaming of gurley in the backfield.

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    i want to say that while i like the ol prospects, i really only expect one starter from that group in year 1. havenstein at right tackle. center will come from one of their three prospects – jones, rhaney, or barnes. the right guard spot will be barksdale or some other free agent they sign or possibly jones.

    the other rookies are developmental. no way they start them immediately unless they just absolutely knock he socks off the coaches, but that’s highly unlikely.

    and again. i think the gurley pick was brilliant. they needed that type of talent on offense. absolutely needed it. now he just needs to fulfill his potential… no pressure…

    I think they want Saffold at RG.

    that sounds good. saffold and havenstein blowing open holes for mason and gurley.

    center position is going to come from within too. we aren’t privy to that info, but they must feel confident with what they have there.

    the big question then i guess is left guard.

    but the oline is going along further than many of the experts seem to think. there’s a really solid nucleus forming there. robinson, saffold, and havenstein. there’s a lot of athleticism, power, and intangibles right there. the coaches and front office should be able to do enough development and roster churning to fill those two areas in. but it also comes down to chemistry. the whole being greater than the sum of its parts. and i think guys like robinson, saffold, and havenstein can affect that too. all are said to have good intangibles. leadership qualities. can they get this group to perform as a cohesive unit? they’re young, and they should all have something to prove. they’ll also be looking to get after defenses knowing they’ve got mason and gurley running behind them. they should be taking pride in that. how far can that take them?

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    yeah. at this point a lot of it is about development. that’s the best way they can catch up to seattle, san francisco, and arizona besides adding more talent. a lot of young players who aren’t close to reaching their potential.

    contrast that to seattle and san francisco who seem to have reached a peak. not sure about arizona.

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    also. i’m sure he’ll be getting taking out some insurance on his acls. just in case.

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    What do you mean “based on the CBA”. What kind of limitations are we talking about here?

    The league sets a limit on how much teams can spend on undrafted FAs every year. I actually think it might be less that $100,000. That means that, in year one anyway, he will have to settle for next to nothing. Of course after this year he could end up getting a big-time FA contract.

    If that’s true, he may sit the year.

    He may have to anyway. He may be cleared this week, and he may be cleared after everybody has been in camp a while. And maybe he will be Aaron Hernandez’s roommate this time next year.

    But why work for a plumber’s salary this year, and risk an ACL?

    Presumably he would be eligible for FA next year in February when all the other FA hit the market.

    I just don’t think he plays this year.

    his agent says he plans on signing this year. but only after his name is cleared. my guess is if he sat out a year and then signed as a free agent he’d get a lot less than if he played a couple years and then signed a contract. it’s risky yeah. but my only guess is it’s about maximizing your earning power.

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    i want to say that while i like the ol prospects, i really only expect one starter from that group in year 1. havenstein at right tackle. center will come from one of their three prospects – jones, rhaney, or barnes. the right guard spot will be barksdale or some other free agent they sign or possibly jones.

    the other rookies are developmental. no way they start them immediately unless they just absolutely knock he socks off the coaches, but that’s highly unlikely.

    and again. i think the gurley pick was brilliant. they needed that type of talent on offense. absolutely needed it. now he just needs to fulfill his potential… no pressure…

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    yeah, they talk a lot about the little things that gurley does. how he varies the frequency of steps when a defender comes. they talk about his receiving skills. they talk about his flexibility when running in traffic. good stuff.

    and he seems to run with good pad level when he has to.

    the one question waldman has is how gurley will do when those running lanes will inevitably be tighter in the pros. he had some pretty wide open creases in college. but he seems pretty sold on him.

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    If he’s cleared, there will be a damned land rush to get him…

    Unfortunately, few teams will be able to offer him money based on the CBA, so it will be interesting how he and his team decide…

    Again, looking around the league, I dunno of many better situations for him than the Rams… Running attack where he would could step in and start at ROT from Day 1. How many other franchises could offer that?

    well i would certainly sell him on the fact that he’s got 2 promising young running backs to block for. a power running scheme. a right tackle or a right guard opening basically up for grabs.

    he’ll want to go to a situation where he’s got the best chance for success so he can get a good contract when he’s up for free agency.

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    after all this offense is going to be built around the running game.

    Ah but.

    To me, running game or not, if the qb ain’t clutch, you don;t get that much.

    The classic Oakland Raiders were a running team too, but, Kenny “The Carnivorous Reptile of the Suborder Serpentes” Stabler was clutch, and that was all the difference.

    Me? I keep whoever is clutch. Even if he’s a klutz for the other 3 1/2 quarters.

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    that sounds good. but my point still holds. the rams weren’t likely to know the answer to that question with a guy like hundley by the end of this season. they’ll likely have a better idea with a guy like mannion who played in a pro-style system.

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    really. everyone watch the waldman piece on gurley. great stuff.

    it’s soothing.

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    just want to add one more thing. people talk about how gurley is a once in a decade type running back…

    well. gurley had a teammate at georgia – freshman running back nick chubb.

    some were whispering last year that he might be BETTER than gurley.

    so… take that for what it’s worth. he put up some mighty impressive numbers behind the same line. early heisman candidate.

    What do you (and others too) like about Gurley? I have my own opinions (I liked the pick instantly)…it’s just fun to hear.

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    i’ll leave film analysis to mack and others. mine is more of a cheerleader type response.

    i always go back to steven jackson. he was the unquestioned talisman for the offense. he set a physical tone from the start. he was going to punish the defense. he was going to get up and he was going to do it again. he was relentless. but more than that he was also an explosive playmaker at his prime. he could bust long runs. he didn’t just grind out the tough yards. he made plays that could change the game in an instant.

    even in his last year here. even when he was a shell of his former self. we all saw it. we saw that physicality. even if he could no longer produce the explosive plays. he provided that physicality.

    but more than that. he was versatile. he was a very good receiver of the ball. he could go inside. he could go outside. there were so many ways steven could attack you. and an underrated skill of his was pass pro. he did the dirty work to help out his teammates. he realized the importance of giving up yourself for the team.

    that’s what i believe gurley will bring to the table. he’s got it all. he can run inside. he can run outside. he can break a defenses will by churning out first downs. but equally by taking it to the house. his receiving skills are said to be top notch. he’s got big soft hands. he can run routes. he’s great after the catch.

    and like mack said, i was pleased to hear him say pass protection was the first thing he needed to work on as a professional. he knows he can run. he knows he can catch. but he also recognizes that the nfl is a different game. it’s a passing league. and he needs to do his part to keep his qb clean.

    he also protects the ball. everyone should watch the waldman piece on gurley. one of the first things he harps on is gurley’s fundamentals. how he holds the ball high and tight. the one thing that worries me about mason is his tendency to fumble the football. not with gurley. he’s got 10″ mitts. he takes care of the ball. he pays attention to the small things.

    again. fixing the offensive line was important. not trying to minimize that. but maybe more important than that was establishing an identity. they not only got a blue chip playmaker. they established an identity for this offense in much the same way jackson did when he was here.

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    He was caught from behind as a Sophomore, but he was battling an ankle.

    As a Freshman? No.

    Now? Not likely.

    Actually, AP is a very good description for when he’s right. Strong enough to truck people and fast enough to run right by people…IN TRAFFIC.

    It’s just amazing to me to watch a DB or LB set up the angle and think they’ve got him and because of his speed, the defender just ends up chasing him.

    Just. Like. AP.

    Plus, he’s very good at catching the ball and I LOVE that he understands that the FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS is learning Pass Pro.

    This guy is going to be a super star in this league…

    I know I’m banging the table hard for this guy, but I can’t help it…

    He’s almost like Suh in this regard. The more tape I watch… the more I like about this kid…which if anyone knows me is unusual. It’s normally the other way around.

    And don’t get me started about this kid’s stiff arm…

    go on, mack. go on. i love reading this stuff.

    i agree about the receiving skills. i think that will be a significant part of the rams offense. a nice outlet for foles to go to.

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    honestly, i think teams took seriously his threat to sit out if drafted. because then he would be eligible for the 2016 draft. so there was no point. and i’ve also read this situation could actually work out for collins. as a udfa, he will be eligible for restricted free agency earlier. he is also eligible to sign an extension earlier and recoup any money he may have lost.

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    the rams need to hedge their bets since foles is in his contract year. so best case scenario is he proves himself ready to start by the end of this season, and the rams don’t have to shell out a bunch of cash to keep foles. mannion offers the best chance of that happening.

    after all this offense is going to be built around the running game.

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    he’s going in monday. of course i’m assuming he’s innocent. and this is just some horrible misunderstanding. if there was any inkling of a reason to believe he did it, i would not sign him.

    but yeah. this would essentially be a second first round pick. i don’t know what the ol situations for other teams is. but the rams have three spots open. i’d imagine he’d be in competition for two of those spots. this is a young offense. it will be a young offensive line. lots of exciting talent in the backfield. it would seem to me to be an appealing situation for an offensive lineman.

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    i’m so happy they picked gurley.

    i mean i still like mason. but a mason gurley combo is unreal to me.

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    does he get caught from behind? gurley that is.

    i read somewhere that he beat chris conley in a 40 yard dash. conley ran a 4.35 at this combine. no idea what it is post surgery.

    as far as style he reminds me of edgerrin james. similar body type. edgerrin was a little smaller. but yeah. watching the both of them run. very similar. that comparison came from a charlie casserly interview on nfl network.

    in the post-draft interview i think he said that he admires cj spiller. don’t know if he tries to emulate him.

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    I am pleased with how they executed this draft. They opted for a special talent over a good lineman in the first and then attempted to build their line with later picks. Throw in an extra pick that allowed them to take a developmental QB, and this draft had almost everything that I wanted. If they could have found a MLB earlier that would have made it the perfect draft for me.

    in retrospect we shoulda seen it a long time ago.

    it’s the jeff fisher way. he’ll almost always go for the special playmaking talent in the first round. offensive linemen are usually taken in the later rounds. he got his stud left tackle. and he’s going to fill in other positions with lunch pail types.

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    i wanted hundley instead of mannion. but perhaps a risk the rams were unwilling to take.

    i hated the havenstein pick the moment it was made. i prefer linemen with versatility. this guy is a one position pony. but the more i read about him the more excited i get. character seems through the roof. a naturally big guy. hard worker. nasty. i keep thinking jon runyan. a nice complement to robinson on the other side. we got some mean nasty bookends now. i like it.

    i like the brown pick too. i think he sounds like an excellent guard prospect although i think he’s a year away at least.

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    me personally. i would wait until midseason next year and slowly phase him in. they have the luxury of doing that. tre mason is very capable as is cunningham.

    i just heard a report that he is on track for mid training camp to start practicing. still. i would be cautious.

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    http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2010/2/12/1307175/torn-acl-success-stories

    i also want to note that jamal lewis tore his lateral collateral ligament in college.

    also. with willis mcgahee. he tore the acl, pcl, and mcl his last game in college. a much more serious injury.

    i’ll be wondering/worrying about gurley’s knee for the next eight years… and that’s the BEST case scenario…

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    just want to add one more thing. people talk about how gurley is a once in a decade type running back…

    well. gurley had a teammate at georgia – freshman running back nick chubb.

    some were whispering last year that he might be BETTER than gurley.

    so… take that for what it’s worth. he put up some mighty impressive numbers behind the same line. early heisman candidate.

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    this was posted awhile back. but i thought i’d repost it considering he is now a RAM!

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    it’s a risk definitely. but the rams have the luxury of not having to put the entire load on gurley. not immediately anyway.

    with gurley you have the potential to make a solid unit great. and why would you pass that up? especially given who the coach is. that’s what they did with the dline. and now they potentially have that with the rb corps.

    the rams have not exactly been an upper echelon rushing offense anyway under fisher. last year they finished in the bottom half. i feel like they’ve improved the two things that can push them toward the top. the offensive line. and the running backs.

    i do feel they still need to sign a free agent. i would still prefer they sign barksdale and slide him inside to right guard.

    but i get the feeling that if the rams can field a top 5 rushing offense. things will open up in the passing game.

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    i really do think gurley is the risk.

    i had posted about it a couple months ago. hoping that it would happen but telling myself that the smart play was drafting an olineman. but when scherff went off the board. and with what la’el collins is going through. it suddenly looked like a real possibility.

    i think he’s got the potential to be better than steven jackson was. i really do. and i loved steven. he’s got to learn pass pro from what i’ve read. but he’s got everything else. he can run for power. he can get the tough yards. but then he can bust the big plays. he can catch the ball. he’s potentially a guy that defenses have to scheme against. and the rams did not have that before this draft. i think tre mason can be a very good back. but i don’t see him as a guy who can make his teammates look better. i know that phrase is tossed around a lot. but i believe it to be true about gurley. he’ll make that offensive line look better. he’ll make his qb and wrs look better. imagine this guy as a safety valve. with his speed and his power?

    and most importantly with a dominant running game. that defense is gonna be fresh and rested. the dline is gonna get after those qbs. williams will be coming up with schemes to get turnovers.

    well. that’s the idea anyway.

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    speaking of transformative. remember how defenses would stack up against jackson to stop the run? have defenses had to do that since he left? my guess is that starts to change with gurley and mason running the ball.

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