zn wrote:

InvaderRam wrote:

not sure he can be graded as a pure receiver.

My own view is that he simply can’t be graded as a pure receiver. Largely because, he’s not one. He’s something else.

He had 52 receptions and 52 rushes last year. If he raised the number of receptions that would be fine with me.

well i want him to also raise his ypc.

he had 53 receptions and 9 yards per catch.

i’d like to see about 80 catches at 11 ypc.

that’d put him at about 900 yards. and then maybe another 450 yards rushing.

that’s about 1350 yards from scrimmage.

bnw wrote:

This storyline is getting old. He said show me the money and again he’s been paid. The Show Me state in me still says Show Me production worthy of a #1 pick and the latest big contract he’s signed.

yeah. they’re certainly paying him based on potential. they’ve pretty much admitted as much.

i’m fairly optimistic he can live up to the contract, but it’ll be tough to accurately grade him. not sure he can be graded as a pure receiver.

but i certainly hope that he can develop as a receiver. just not sure we can compare him to guys like antonio brown.

but he certainly has to do more than he has on the past. how much? not too sure.

i’m thinking 1400-1500 yards from scrimmage and 8-10 tds a season.

last year he had approximately 900 yards from scrimmage and 9 tds.

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rams defenders making mental notes to go after wilson’s ankle next week.

zn wrote:

InvaderRam wrote:

imagine the rams blow this pick AND they lose. and without those future draft picks…

wouldn’t that be depressing.

IR…it is way premature to even go there.

You saw Goff. Does he strike you as being a “blown pick”?

Plus of course there’s this…most teams in the last several years that started high-picked rookie qbs had losing seasons. Why would Wentz suddenly change that? The percentages stay the same.

It’s really an emotion-first, very oversoon reaction IMO.

there’s no panicking here right now. just imagining. people are really worried. no big deal.

for what it’s worth. tony gonzalez on cbs criticized the eagles for their decision to start wentz. says it will be a disaster.

also. not sure they miss jenkins. they won’t miss long. they might miss laurinaitis. but they discount the fact that they played most of last season without quinn and ogletree.

they could very well miss mcleod though. a lot.

quick is gone. as soon as spruce and cooper are healthy.

and does this mean littleton is the third linebacker? just assumed it’d be forrest.

it’s been fun watching this guy grow up. just hope quinn can stay healthy this year. i remember seeing bruce and holt play together. they made each other better and their teammates better. it would be fun to see them dominate the league together and lead this defense to greatness. i know they have questions marks in the secondary and at lb but those two together dominating which the rams haven’t had an opportunity to enjoy yet could cover up a lot of mistakes.

PA Ram wrote:

Maybe it’s me but the whole Joyner story struck me as at least a little bit “scripted”.

i think it was scripted. like most of the show was.

it’s probably true that the rams aren’t as bad off as most teams with the number one pick in the draft.

the one plus about all this is it just buys time for goff to really get into the playbook and learn this offense. no outside worries of preparing for the opposing team. or at least not as much. all he’s got to do at this point is worry about learning the terminology, learning the concepts, learning the protections, and the adjustments.

this could be really good for him.

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if he’s still inactive week 8 i’ll be worried.

i just want them to be effective. effective enough that defenses can’t just unload on gurley.

on the other hand i am optimistic that the front seven could be better than last year.

goff certainly looks confused out there at times.

just hope he can learn the things that are under his control. learning the protections. learning what defensive formations and what they’re trying to do to you. learning the read and the passing concepts on each play. these seem to be things that should be able to be learned through hard work.

cuz he seems to certainly have the arm talent.

bradford’s gotta be happy. i’m not surprised philly got more than the rams did in a trade cuz i think sam was still coming off acl surgery when the rams traded him as opposed to the eagles trade after playing a full season healthy.

i’m just surprised the eagles traded him although for a first round pick i suppose you have to make the trade. it also tells you they must be pretty confident wentz can do the job.