Rams 1st round pick, #13…Ty Simpson

zn wrote:

Kurt Warner.

True. Course he had quite a journey before he became a great one. Packers, Barnstormers, Admirals..

I just wonder about all this “he’s a good processor” stuff. They know this after only 15 starts at Alabama?

I enjoyed his commentary on the Chase Daniel vid. He is not going to need any Kyler Murray clauses in his contract.

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Billy_T wrote:

Not happy with the Simpson pick. But they didn’t ask me, of course. Too soon for him. Most folks were talking late 1st round into 2nd. And it’s surely not an “all in, play for today” kinda pick. Hope they at least tried to trade down and were just stymied, etc.

Anyway, they’re gonna need to hit on the next two rounds. Hoping it’s wideout and upgrade at linebacker. Role the dice on some small college athletes with their late picks.

15 starts. Has any QB with that type of college history ever turned out to be a top NFL QB? I dunno. I cant think of one offhand.

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It’s rare. Quantity of starts is supposed to be a major factor in future NFL production for QBs. Exceptions, as others have noted. Ironically, the Rams, under McSnead, tend to go for older, more experienced players. Simpson is older, but not more experienced.

Regardless, I question the pick on a lot of grounds. Lack of game experience is just one of them.

Zooey wrote:

Cam Newton. 14 college starts.

If the Rams took a Cam-Newton-type-QB, I’d probably be cheering. I must have a ‘physical’ trait bias.

Ty is not the great ‘athlete’ with big arm and speed to burn. Supposedly, he has the great mental part of it. The invisible trait. Brady, Brees, etc.

We’ll see. I hope he’s better than Stetson.

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InvaderRam wrote:

cam newton, kyler murray, anthony richardson, mitchell trubisky, and dwayne haskins.

if you expand it to 20 games, it also includes four others. trey lance, mark sanchez, mac jones, and ryan tannehill.

it makes no mention of kurt warner and i didn’t really cross check to verify the accuracy of this answer.

edit. this only includes qbs drafted in the first round which is why warner isn’t on this list.

Ok, well….has any QB ever become a topflight player in the NFL who only had 15 starts in college AND was 6’1 inches tall 🙂

The height bothers me more than the number of starts, actually.

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wv wrote:

Ok, well….has any QB ever become a topflight player in the NFL who only had 15 starts in college AND was 6’1 inches tall

i hate the pick. i’m not sure there’s anything that can convince me otherwise.

i understand the logic. and if it was a better qb or at least a better profile i’d feel more comfortable with the pick. but all due respect to simpson and daniels, he seems more like the next chase daniels than the next brock purdy (who had 46 starts in college).

the only way he sees the field is if stafford goes down in which case it doesn’t matter. the rams are screwed they’re not going to win with a rookie qb who only has 15 starts in college under his belt. it’s not gonna happen. it’s just a bad move. again. i understand the logic but for a better qb.

they shoulda just traded down if possible.

i’ve said in the past. mcvay has two things left to prove. first is to win a second superbowl. second is to draft and develop a qb.

if mcvay can turn simpson into a pro bowl caliber qb, he will enter into a different conversation.

i hope i’m proven wrong.

InvaderRam wrote:

i just watched it. the mechanics issues are worrisome. i guess that can be corrected with coaching? but he also needs live reps too. which he ideally won’t get outside of preseason.

late diagnosing plays? again maybe a reps issue?

the physical problems i don’t have so much of an issue with. he’s not going to outrun defenders.

he looks like a second rounder. i know snead doesn’t put much stock into draft capital. just a means to get a player. i don’t know. i know he’s got fancy mathematicians mathing the outcomes. maybe it makes sense from that point of view? but from where i’m sitting i want another superbowl. any number of injuries could happen. a nacua suspension is not out of the question. an oline injury (although they addressed that later in the draft). adams. or one of the dbs could go down.

stafford is not replaceable. impossible in the near future. very unlikely in the distant future. this is why you got him in the first place. he’s supposed to be the elite qb to get you over the hump like mina kimes said in that video. i don’t think you can math that problem if he goes down. the other ones you can math.

the more i think about it actually the less convinced i become. unless mcvay and the coaching staff find the next steve young in this kid.

I agree with all that.

Questions about the strategy itself. And questions about Ty Simpson as a player.

But again, i get why they went with this approach.

At any rate, we got High-Hopes for this season. When’s the last time there was a consensus around the country that the Rams were favorites to win it all?

Maybe…the year Martz took over? Its been a while.

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wv wrote:

At any rate, we got High-Hopes for this season. When’s the last time there was a consensus around the country that the Rams were favorites to win it all?

yeah. i mean trent mcduffie has to be included as part of this draft class. so i definitely am on board with that. and i’ve read nothing but good things about the olineman. klare maybe could surprise?

and the other thing is they still have some cap space too. something like 10 million after signing the rookies. so maybe some surprise signing in the future?

even a trade at some point?

I think McVay was kind of a dick to Ty on the phone. He gave me”I’m gonna run you out of town” vibes. One of the few times I was really disappointed in him. Like him or not, he’s got him now…. Coach him the Fuq up now

Herzog wrote:

I think McVay was kind of a dick to Ty on the phone. He gave me”I’m gonna run you out of town” vibes. One of the few times I was really disappointed in him. Like him or not, he’s got him now…. Coach him the Fuq up now

that’s what i thought initially. but i am not so sure.

maybe aloof? i think he’s trying to tread a line between bringing in a new qb and making sure the old qb knows that he’s still the guy.

i don’t even know if that came from stafford or maybe mcvay just had it in his head. or he didn’t want the media to manufacture some kind of drama?

the media did end up creating drama anyway which they tried to clear up. i don’t think snead or the organization would want to upset mcvay by forcing a pick on him unless they know something we don’t. which is that mcvay and stafford do not plan on coming back. but i don’t see any reason to think that.