Rams 1st round pick, #13…Ty Simpson

Schefter says they didnt receive a single call to trade down, so they were stuck at 13.

InvaderRam wrote:

Herzog wrote:

I think McVay was kind of a dick to Ty on the phone. He gave me”I’m gonna run you out of town” vibes. One of the few times I was really disappointed in him. Like him or not, he’s got him now…. Coach him the Fuq up now

that’s what i thought initially. but i am not so sure.

maybe aloof? i think he’s trying to tread a line between bringing in a new qb and making sure the old qb knows that he’s still the guy.

i don’t even know if that came from stafford or maybe mcvay just had it in his head. or he didn’t want the media to manufacture some kind of drama?

the media did end up creating drama anyway which they tried to clear up. i don’t think snead or the organization would want to upset mcvay by forcing a pick on him unless they know something we don’t. which is that mcvay and stafford do not plan on coming back. but i don’t see any reason to think that.

I simply don’t know, but I am somewhat concerned that McVay and Stafford are secretly “married,” and that McVay is going to leave when Stafford retires. He’s got little kids, and the amount of money some network offered him a while back was unbelievable. It could be that McVay has been open about all that with Snead, and this is Snead preparing for that post-Stafford/McVay world, and McVay had no choice but to accept it. I’m totally making that up, though. I just find the “McVay was acting for Stafford’s benefit” storyline more farfetched than the one I just presented. I don’t know, but something felt off.

zn wrote:

Rodrigue’s view is that he went through his crisis in 2022 and came out of it, and that was that, he’s a coach.

yeah. but that was then. this is now. things change. for the record i agree with you, but we could be wrong.

zn wrote:

Yet I fall back on knowing that there has never been a Rams story, ever, where we did not hear fairly quickly what was going on behind the scenes.

I never saw anything explaining Ernest Jones. That may be one exception.

zn wrote:

So why is there speculation about this pick, McVay’s reaction, and McVay’s future? IMO–people are just making things out of the press conference that are just not there. That’s the incitement.

ok so i went and watched the video. and it was good. pretty much stuff i have been speculating about minus the all the detail and insider information that she brought to the table. mcvay is a lightning rod. has been since the rams hired him. martz caught a little bit of that, but mcvay has for better or worse been able to sustain that for a decade. it just comes with the territory.

an aside note. this. and i keep harping on it. this is one of the markers that will define sean’s legacy. his ability to draft and develop a qb. as jourdan said, mcvay won’t actually be in there getting his hands dirty with simpson, but he will be overseeing the process. he is directly involved in hiring the people who are responsible for tuning simpson up. and i agree with jourdan. he needs a stable environment to accomplish this. because mcvay is such a lightning rod, the environment is always in flux. especially with the offensive coaching staff. how he does this i have no clue. goff had lafleur and he left almost immediately. so now what happens with simpson. jourdan has her doubts. i wonder too. i think what will be crucial is how much mcvay has learned in the years since he traded goff and then almost burned out himself. can he slow down his pace and let others catch up? simpson will also have the benefit of learning under stafford instead of being put in the pressurized environment of a qb1 like goff was. of course if stafford retires in a year, then everything changes. it would actually be a benefit to everyone if stafford stayed two or three more years. but mcvay will also have to realize that he can’t just expect simpson to hit the ground running. i’ll be curious to see how it all unfolds.

i will say this. i slightly disagree with her in that some of it might be personality issues. goff may not have been the best match personality wise? i don’t have anything to base that on. just a hunch. simpson might actually be a better fit. just watching him in that chase daniels interview. again. i can’t quite articulate it, but i can see mcvay vibing with this guy. doesn’t mean it’ll be a success. but it may have a better chance of success than the mcvay goff partnership?

i am glad they also talked about the 13 personnel transition the rams are doing. i think ferguson and klare will be important. so important as wr/te hybrids. it’s why i wasn’t so concerned about drafting another receiver. i see next year as parkinson being the inline te with higbee as the backup or vice versa. and then ideally ferguson as the move te/third wr if he can progress. so they’ll essentially be an 11/12 personnel hybrid. then you can mix in klare or higbee/parkinson depending on the situation in 13 personnel. in the future you could even have ferguson and klare lined up together with two wrs if everything goes well. i’m sure the coaching staff are coming up with all sorts of different ideas.

• This reply was modified 3 weeks, 2 days ago by InvaderRam.

wv wrote:

The height bothers me more than the number of starts, actually.

Brock Purdy is also 6’1″.

Brock Purdy isn’t Matthew Stafford, but he’s good enough. And if the Rams got Brock Purdy for close to Free, then that’s a W.

The question is: can McVay develop a QB? I would think he will be more patient because he doesn’t want to make the same mistake he already made with Goff, so maybe.

Zooey wrote:

That’s about as good as it gets.

Okay. She buried my concern.

I do think McVay was upset about something, though. And that’s the first thing he offered as an explanation, that there was something unrelated to the pick that agitated him. The concern about Stafford came out later, and doesn’t add up to me. But there’s a plethora of possibilities. Maybe they were *THIS* close to trading back a couple of slots and getting some bonus as well as getting their guy, and it fell through. Or maybe his wife is mad because he left the milk out on the counter again, and it spoiled, and now the kids have no milk. In fact, that’s what I think I’m going with.

Yeah, when Jordan is in topform she is as good as it gets. She’s always emphasizing her interest in ‘processes.’

Btw, is it…’normal procedure’ to tell your Hall of Fame QB that you are drafting another QB on the DAY of the Draft? I woulda thot they would talk to Stafford about it a month ago.

I dunno what was bothering McVay after the first round pick was made. I just assumed ‘something’ went wrong in the draft. In the past the draft has always seem to fall just right for McSnead. Not this time.

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Zooey wrote:

Brock Purdy is also 6’1″.

Brock Purdy isn’t Matthew Stafford, but he’s good enough. And if the Rams got Brock Purdy for close to Free, then that’s a W.

The question is: can McVay develop a QB? I would think he will be more patient because he doesn’t want to make the same mistake he already made with Goff, so maybe.

Yeah, and R.Wilson was smallish. There’s been some good ones. But i think the height thing has also limited Wilson and Purdy. I always thought the Rams took advantage of Wilson’s smallishness.

Wilson and Purdy could both RUN pretty effectively too. I dont think that is a big part of Ty’s game, really.

Probably the only modern smallish QB that really was an outlier was Drew Brees. He was a pocket guy and he had the Hall of Fame career. But, man, its just not what ya want. A smallish QB.

As Dominique Foxworthy (who i have a ton of respect for) said: the pick was a big risk. He didnt argue against the pick. Didnt say it was a ‘bad’ pick. Just that it was a big risk. They coulda had a sure thing, like Lemon, and they rolled the dice that next year’s team would be good enough…

Course you can argue ‘anything’ — you can argue it would be a big risk NOT to take a future-QB when you have the chance, blah blah.

If they lose the Super Bowl because Davante has a bad hamstring, I will, of course, be a gigantic pain in the ass.

…I’m still hoping an OBJ type deal is coming down the road.

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