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  • in reply to: The Death of the GOP #43748
    Avatar photoZooey
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    Well Zooey you can bank on Hillary not looking out for you. She’s too busy enriching herself via “public service”. That won’t be lost on the electorate. Trump as a successful businessman does make money. It is called success in the private sector. It is what he has to do.

    The Bush wing is dead. It can go elsewhere. Good riddance.

    You view Trump as “imperialistic”? How strange considering Obama has overthrown the duly elected pro-Russian Ukrainian president extending US influence to the Russian border while sending Kid Biden to suck at the oil teat and help Monsanto pollute that nations granary with GMO. That GMO is already a seriously contentious issue in Europe, in particular Russia. The GMO pollen will be carried on the wind into Russia. Then you have the mess in Libya and the creation of ISIS, the failed aggression against Syria which was guaranteed to butt heads with Putin as it is one of only 3 foreign bases of Russia. Just 3. Yet the US has 800 foreign military bases in 70 countries. Trump wants to restructure NATO and let Russia fight ISIS. Hillary is the war monger. Then there’s the Iran Deal. North Korea too.

    I am not a party loyalist, so when you counter what I say with “Hillary and Obama are bad,” I only shrug and say, “I know.” Convincing me that they are bad does nothing to make me think Trump will be good. I didn’t vote for Obama either time, and if I vote for Hillary, it won’t be because I am under any illusions about her. It will be because I fear Trump will be a lot worse. But I’m not there yet.

    in reply to: The Death of the GOP #43740
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    I believe the repudiation of the Bush agenda is complete. The vestiges of that wing of the party will not support Trump. The Tea Party that Dick Armey co-opted from Ron Paul supporters years ago is now seeing its discontent with the status quo come to fruition. Trump isn’t really Tea Party but he has tapped into enough of that vein to get their support. That really seems to be Trump’s greatest strength. He isn’t a perfect fit within the party but that helps him outside the party with independents and democrats. Don’t be surprised when Trump garners more union support than the so called experts believe. Same for the black vote. All people that want to work will have a clear choice in Trump.

    You mention Atwater/Rove but I see Trump innately qualified and wired and primed to go after the target rich resume of Hillary. I think Rove is close to being relegated to insignificance along with so many others in the establishment that actively opposed the outsider sentiment manifest in the Trump movement.

    You describe Hillary well. What is interesting about Hillary is her lack of success in government at anything other than enriching herself. She’s been great at making money giving speeches and as a new generation will learn, Cattle Futures.

    This is not going to be a low turnout election. I believe former Hillary supporters may well in large numbers not vote when her past is brought to the fore. Trump will draw record voters to the rapidly changing GOP and office holders better fall in line.

    Yeah, the Bush wing of the party WILL support Trump. Those are neo-cons, and the only difference between them and Trump is that Trump is openly imperialistic whereas the Bush wing always sold their imperialism as self-defense. If Trump gets a license to be openly imperialistic, the Bush people aren’t going to have a problem with that.

    The ONLY concerns the Republican establishment have with Trump are economic. What is he going to do on taxes, and trade? If Trump doesn’t get in the way of the 1%, they don’t care about the rest of it. Abortion, no abortion. Gay, straight, don’t care. Money is what they care about. The social issues have only been a tool to get evangelicals to vote Republican. They never delivered on any promises to run Sharia – oops…sorry…Christian – law. They USED those voters.

    If you are going to bring up cattle futures, you may as well bring up Monica Lewinsky and Vince Foster. Nobody cares. The cattle futures thing was aired out in the 90s, and nobody cared then when it was new news. It’s old news now, and nobody cares.

    So Hillary is about Hillary. About making money, and gaining power.

    Know who else fits that bill?

    Donald Trump.

    He is not looking out for you, bnw. He is looking after Donald. You may share common enemies, but you do not share common goals. And he will sell you out in a nano-second.

    in reply to: Arians on Tim Couch #43738
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    We don’t have to worry about that.

    We have the Gurley Men up front.

    in reply to: Taibbi on Obama #43732
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    Jesus, Mackeyser, if you would post more, I wouldn’t have to spend time posting at all. That is exactly what I see in Hillary, and exactly how I see the gravity of the situation vis-a-vis Bernie.

    Maybe it will be society’s epitaph: “At the last possible moment, they almost voted for a candidate who would do something about the crisis.”

    in reply to: The Death of the GOP #43731
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    I think you are exactly right, Mackeyser. Especially on point #3 which you bolded. I read an article a couple of months ago that argued exactly the same thing: that Hillary will get creamed with negativity, and she won’t come off well in that kind of debate whereas Bernie would just stay talking about the issues and let Trump flame out.

    I do not take it for granted that Trump will lose the general election at all. Hillary’s strength this primary season has been in the red states, particularly the south, and she isn’t going to win those in the general. She is vulnerable in the blue states, and out of the running in the red states.

    And I think the party will rally around Trump like you said. Not only do they hate Hillary, I think they will find that they will be able to connect with Trump somewhat. He is going to want RNC money, and he is going to want a credible cabinet. He is going to want to play President once he gets there, and that means he is going to have to listen to some people because he – at this point – doesn’t even know how to pronounce “Tanzania.” He doesn’t know what the nuclear triad is. In some ways, he is similar to George W. Bush.

    Trump is a narcissist, and the power inside the party will soon figure out how to steer Trump around through flattery. He will shock them from time to time, but he will be manageable. And I don’t think the authoritarianism of Trump is a thing they will shy away from. Their problem will be on issues of tax and trade, after all, and they will just urge Trump to spend his energy on making the trains run on time. Restrict immigration, drop some bombs, gut a program or two. Everybody’s happy (except the people who voted for him because while he will nurse their fears and hostilities, he won’t help them get better pay).

    in reply to: The Death of the GOP #43716
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    I don’t know what “Death of the GOP” means. The GOP has morphed. But none of those people within the party are having a “Saul on his way to Damascus” moment of conversion to some different set of ideals. What we have is Fruit Basket Upset, not Death. All those forces are going to jockey around over the next couple of election cycles, but they are going to recongeal in some form unless one of the factions splits off to form a third party – and my wager there would be on the Tea Party people because they’re arrogant enough to think they can get their way simply by refusing to compromise on anything, and insisting on it. But I bet that split doesn’t happen. I bet, instead, Paul Ryan, or someone like him, comes out of the 2020 primary, and this year gets written off as an aberration. And while part of me hopes I am wrong about that, I’m afraid the alternative is worse.

    One reason I think the GOP isn’t dying is that the Trump Phenomenon is not happening down ticket. All of the congressional seats and governorships are being waged by the usual establishment types of people. For the GOP to really be imperiled, it would have to facing mini-Donalds running for mayor all the way up to the US Senate, but that isn’t happening. It is only the head position that is in disarray. It is business as usual everywhere else. So the Death of the GOP stuff is your standard, lazy media coverage of a horse race, and just another manifestation of humans’ silly egocentrism that imagines that whatever they are experiencing is what everybody else is experiencing. But what is happening in the presidential race is not happening elsewhere.

    Yet.

    It could be that in 2018, we will see a bunch of Trumps running. In fact, it would surprise me if we don’t. I think a lot of potential candidates are going to copycat Trump’s style next time around, and then we can begin to see what is happening. But my guess is the GOP revolution is just starting rather than peaking at a Crisis Moment from which pieces are going to fall immediately.

    That this disarray is well-deserved is what makes it so sweet. When Gingrich first stepped into congress in 1978, he brought with him a bold plan to break the perpetual minority status of Republicans in the house, and it worked. The plan was to hammer away at the theme of a corrupt, over-sized government establishment. Reagan famously got on board with that plan, and the refrain that government was the problem became a truism in American culture, leading to Gingrich’s sweeping revolution in ’94. And they became the Party of Blame. Blame all problems on somebody else. Blame Democrats, blame government, blame minorities, blame victims. Blame Muslims. Blame, blame, blame.

    The problem is that the Republicans are now the establishment having dominated the political landscape in varying degrees for the past 35 years, even with a couple of nominal Democrats in the White House. And conditions for working people have worsened. So when you constantly complain that government is the problem, and you are the government, eventually you get the Tea Party and Donald Trump.

    Their strategy is now coming back to eat them, but it is far from clear how much damage this attitude which THEY cultivated is going to damage them. Unfortunately, I think it is wishful thinking to foresee the death of the GOP. The conditions suggest to me that the far more likely outcome is increased demand for authoritarianism to cut through the “inefficient, corrupt government.” People are prepared for a house-cleaning. And if you get Donalds running up and down the ticket, it will certainly lead to the death of the GOP, but what replaces it may be far, far worse. The endemic racism, and fear, and economic uncertainty that muddle our culture combined with the rise of the authoritarian nationalism Trump champions suggests to me that the phoenix rising from the Republican party looks an awful lot like this one:

    So when you wish for the Death of the GOP, give some thought to what you think is likely to emerge in its place.

    in reply to: Connor Cook's Dad #43627
    Avatar photoZooey
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    Well, I’d say that Connor Cook’s dad is not a rare bread among fathers of football players. Or among fathers of non-football players, for that matter.

    in reply to: Caption this picture #43600
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    “Three football owners walk into a bar. ..”

    in reply to: Autopsies #43581
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    You’ll have to ask Scalia’s family about that ‘cuz they could always have ordered one.

    Or been told to not order one. Someone serving that high an office in government demands an autopsy.

    Yeah, that probably wouldn’t have aroused the family’s suspicions at all.

    Suspicion isn’t the issue. Having the stones to demand an autopsy when told not to is the issue. Much like Ross Perot dropping out of the ’92 presidential election WHILE LEADING. Like the Scalia family they got to Ross too.

    But if you believe the government whacked Scalia, and then ordered his family not to ask for an autopsy, then you wouldn’t have believed an autopsy report anyway. Because, frankly, it would be easier and less dangerous to fake an autopsy report than to go around threatening a family and hoping that doesn’t leak out.

    in reply to: Adapted from a facebook meme #43537
    Avatar photoZooey
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    Donald Trump is a crap shoot. Honestly, he is a loose cannon, and he scares me.

    But there IS something comforting in the fact that absolutely everybody in the Establishment is scared of him, too. Seriously, if Hillary wants to reinstate the draft, everybody thinks, “Well, the situation must be serious.” If Trump wants to reinstate the draft, everybody thinks, “The damn man is crazy.”

    Now, that may be a lousy example. My point, though, is that with literally nearly everybody skeptical of Trump in both parties… I mean…the guy has NO credibility. Everything he wants to do is going to be debated on its merits. You know? He doesn’t have blind henchmen in the congress that are going to march the party line. Republicans are tripping all over themselves to declare that he isn’t a Conservative, and Democrats aren’t going to have anything to do with him. In a way, the guy is almost pure in that sense. He can’t do much without congress signing off, and nobody in congress is on his team. The man is a catastrophe, but he is a catastrophe with both parties allied against him. And the more he fails, the more antipathy the Republicans garner, and the more open everyone is to Warren 2020.

    Hillary, though, is going to get blamed by everybody for being a progressive when she is to the right of Ronald Reagan. I don’t need the damage to the brand. I don’t know. I am really conflicted. Voting Jill Stein seems Pontius Pilate to me in a way, but that is one possibility. Another is writing in Sanders. Another is voting for Clinton if the race is really close. Another is not voting for Clinton if the race is really close.

    I don’t know yet.

    In the mean time, I am working to get Sanders up to 60% in California.

    in reply to: Captain America, Civil War #43530
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    I am going tonight with all my seniors. It’s what they wanted to do. I don’t know what’s going on. I never heard of Ultron, and I don’t know what this movie is about. I saw the Avengers first movie, and I like Ironman. But Captain America never captured my interest. In any event, I gather this movie is not a musical, and it wasn’t written by Sam Shephard or David Mamet. Movie starts at 11:30. I will probably be asleep by 12:05.

    in reply to: Adapted from a facebook meme #43524
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    I’m not doing anything. Other than pushing hard for Sanders up to the moment he is officially out of the running. After that, I have no plans, except to join in the push for the midterms in 2018. My state is not going to go to Trump in November. So I think I’m not likely to be placed in the desperate position of having to drink a quart of whiskey to work up the nerve to vote for Hillary, and then collapsing in sobs on the floor.

    What’s this I hear about Maine doing away with super delegates, or forcing them to represent the popular vote?

    Is it good whisky?

    Does it need to be?

    in reply to: Adapted from a facebook meme #43519
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    I appreciate what you’re doing Z.

    But I don’t buy in. Trump would be worse.

    I’ve been putting up with LePage as governor in Maine. Worse is worse.

    People can do what they want, and I won’t be trying to talk anyone into anything. So just saying for the record, worse is worse, and that’s how I personally line up with this.

    I’m not doing anything. Other than pushing hard for Sanders up to the moment he is officially out of the running. After that, I have no plans, except to join in the push for the midterms in 2018. My state is not going to go to Trump in November. So I think I’m not likely to be placed in the desperate position of having to drink a quart of whiskey to work up the nerve to vote for Hillary, and then collapsing in sobs on the floor.

    What’s this I hear about Maine doing away with super delegates, or forcing them to represent the popular vote?

    in reply to: when will Goff start? #43518
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    Anybody know when Hard Knocks begins? I’ve never seen the show, and don’t have HBO, but I know a guy who knows a guy.

    in reply to: Interesting article on the Republican nominee #43512
    Avatar photoZooey
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    Well, i dunno if I’d agree that rightwing-radio has caused
    an acceptance of uncivil talk and twitter has caused a shortening of attention span, and both have paved the way for Trump.

    I dunno what lead to Trump, but I know part of it is simply that the Rep Party has been holding some very different factions together for a long time. And now some of those factions are splitting apart. I suspect some of the rightwing supporters who liked Ross Perot, are the ones supporting Trump now.

    Somebody interviewed on npr today mentioned that Trump is like a ‘white board’ in that people see in him whatever they want to see.

    NPR talked about Hillary and Trump all morning, btw. No mention of Bernie at all. I went to his rally in Morgantown yesterday and there were a couple of thousand folks there. His speech was the best political speech I’ve ever heard in person.
    Whats the best pol speech you ever heard ?
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    I believe talk radio made it possible for Trump to speak the way he does. I posted that theory about three months ago, and I still think so. I am surprised you would even doubt it.

    I think that blaming Twitter for short attention spans is false, though. People have always searched around for some reason to explain why everyone else is stupid, and 10 years ago, it would have been “sound bite culture” to blame.

    I think Trump is the natural harvest for what that party has sown over the past 50 years, but particularly since the rise of Atwater and Limbaugh.

    Avatar photoZooey
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    I don’t need to take up anything with them, but I get your point.

    I know the history of this offense which is why I chronicled it. I know what it is.

    Moreover, much of why Wentz actually got any play to the Rams as early as he did was because NDSU runs a run-heavy WCO variant that has VERY similar elements to the quasi-WCO run-heavy offense the Rams run.

    The parallels allowed for substantial overlap which is why Wentz, the inferior passer with less experience, was seen as the superior option for the Rams by most of the voices I trust like Cosell, Mayock and several others including being mobile and being able to create after a play breaks down.

    /shrug.

    Point is that with the focus on the Rams for some time, there wasn’t any question the Rams ran a WCO. I call it a “quasi-WCO” because it still has vestiges of the Schotty Coryell elements. Enough seem to have been purged that it’s definitely MORE of a WCO and recognized by those that dissect it as a WCO, but it has…other elements.

    It’s a bit of a Franken-offense. Mostly a WCO, though.

    Well, surely the Rams adapt their offense to Goff, if not this year, then soon.

    in reply to: Adapted from a facebook meme #43476
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    Hillary would be the most disliked presidential candidate in decades if not for Trump.

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    Paglia sometimes reminds me of Gore Vidal — not in her political positions, but just in the way she can rip someone to pieces. Ya know. No prisoners. Search and Destroy.

    Anyway, I agree with Paglia on this part:

    “…The most pernicious aspect of this Democratic campaign is the way the field was cleared long in advance for Hillary, a flawed candidate from the get-go, while an entire generation of able Democratic politicians in their 40s was muscled aside, on pain of implied severance from future party support. It is glaringly obvious, given how well Bernie Sanders (my candidate) has done despite a near total media blackout for the past year, that Hillary would never have survived to the nomination had she had younger, more well-known, and centrist challengers. Hillary’s front-runner status has been achieved by DNC machinations and an army of undemocratic super-delegate insiders, whose pet projects will be blessed by the Clinton golden hoard…”

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    That’s the same paragraph I copied and pasted on my way down to this point where I discovered you have already drawn attention to it.

    Boy, Paglia trashes Hillary on the Woman issue. She found some Brand New Ways to slice Hillary up.

    And…the Goiter: http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/goiter/basics/definition/con-20021266

    in reply to: Bern comin to town #43447
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    Oh. Yes.

    California switched to Open Primaries a couple of cycles ago.

    No need to vote for Trump.

    Every Californian who doesn’t like Hillary will vote against her in the primary.

    Sanders will win this state.

    in reply to: Bern comin to town #43404
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    Bernie won Indiana, i see. Nice.

    He’s coming to my town on Thursday. Lookin forward to
    seein how many folks turn out for ole Bern.

    I still cannot believe how well he is doin,
    given all the usual forces allied against him.

    Still, Hillary is our next President. Ah well.
    At least the Banks and Corporations and wealthy ‘professionals’ will be happy.

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    Here’s a thought I had….

    I don’t know how much you are following this, but I have been watching with interest. And the media has been a fascinating animal on this primary season because – as you know – Trump has eaten up the lion’s share of media coverage. Every time there is a primary or caucus, the focus is on Trump. I have literally had difficulty tracking the democrat side because I go to google news, and every story is on the Republican primary with news of the horse race, and of who insulted whom, and so on. Finding an article on the democrat side has been actually difficult. Typically, there is a paragraph about the outcome of the vote that concludes that Hillary is still a shoe-in, and then back to the Trump/Cruz/whatever BS storyline.

    Well, ya know, the media IS obsessed with the horse race aspect of politics. That has been their primary focus for decades: polls, delegate counts, and so on. Issues…not so much. Unless they come packaged for them by a candidate in a “zinger” or “gotcha” quip.

    But now there is nothing to cover on the Republican side. Trump is the last man standing.

    Are they suddenly going to discover there is a debate happening in the democrat party?

    I think they might. I don’t know if they can stop themselves. They’ve all been toeing the line by ignoring Bernie all year, but that’s the only horse race now. They are going to have to start talking about it.

    That isn’t good for Hillary, I don’t think.

    in reply to: EPS Homeostasis #43402
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    ——————-
    Mack can you address what bnw had to say in his post?

    I mean, you are preaching to the choir with the rest of us.
    Its people who share bnw’s ideas that should be the target
    audience. Can there be any meaningful communication between
    you and him on this subject?

    He says the ‘earth has cooled’. Has it?

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    Why don’t you ask bnw for his evidence?

    in reply to: Larry Wilmore roasts Obama #43401
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    I loved Obama’s joke when he was talking about journalists leaving.

    “Jake Tapper is also leaving journalisim. He’s going to work at CNN.”

    He didn’t like THAT joke. But they all know it. The politicians know it–the journalists know it. They all know it.

    Exactly. They don’t laugh because it’s true.

    If it was obviously false, they would all find it funny.

    Like it’s funny when you, I don’t know, make a joke about a man who is famously devoted to his wife being unfaithful to her with all the young women around. Everybody laughs.

    But if the guy is well-known to have cheated on his wife multiple times, you get a lot of throats clearing and plastic smiles.

    The 4th estate has completely lost its way. It’s been seduced by money and glamour, just like the democrat party, and everybody knows it. Once a year or so, they gather at the White House to be reminded they are complete asshat sellouts.

    in reply to: Larry Wilmore roasts Obama #43376
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    And again I agree with Mack right down the line. The problem was, of course, that everything he said was true. He didn’t even have to use hyperbole, or distort things at all. At least the clip I saw (elsewhere).

    Interesting to me was that neither Obama nor Wilmore took a serious shot at Sanders. The jokes each of them dropped on him were pretty soft.

    Wolf Blitzer’s face was priceless. This multi-millionaire asshole celebrities take themselves seriously as journalists when they are a disgrace to the profession.

    in reply to: Autopsies #43375
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    You’ll have to ask Scalia’s family about that ‘cuz they could always have ordered one.

    Or been told to not order one. Someone serving that high an office in government demands an autopsy.

    Yeah, that probably wouldn’t have aroused the family’s suspicions at all.

    in reply to: Tweets 4/28 – trades [Foles & Keenum] #43349
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    The Rams are stuck here. I hope I’m surprised. Maybe someone gets hurt and a team gets desperate but they can only hold him so long before deciding between him and Mannion. And something tells me Jeff Fisher just doesn’t want to go into the facilities and see Foles around all the time after the disaster he was.

    I see a release in his future.

    Unless Mannion completely blows.

    in reply to: EPS Homeostasis #43346
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    It is scary, actually. I have two kids that are likely to live through some catastrophic events. We are of an age where we will probably live to see only the beginning of the…”re-ordering” of life on the planet. And I agree, the grip of the status quo is iron. I can’t get students to set aside their cellphones for an entire class period. There is no way people are going to give up modern conveniences in order to maybe save the planet.

    It looks like the novel “Feed” is more prescient than the author intended.

    in reply to: EPS Homeostasis #43337
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    Yeah, this in part is why I’ve completely lost patience with the “lesser of two evils” argument. There isn’t time for whatever Hillary’s plan is – probably a reduction in the level of GROWTH in greenhouse gasses.

    I read somewhere that MIT said we had to slam the brakes on greenhouse gasses basically right now in order to have a chance.

    This is not time to elect a Great Incrementer.

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    I also wonder if the Pharoh Cooper pick is Tavon’s future replacement. They seem to have similar games and Tavon is going to get costly. I wonder if they looked ahead at that with this pick.

    That was the first thing that went through my mind when I read Pharoh described as a Swiss Army Knife. I like Tavon, but there is a salary cap. And, well….

    in reply to: when will Goff start? #43289
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    Boy, it would be ballsy to start him week one, in San Francisco, on MNF. Welcome to the Big Time, kid.

    I dunno. But it seems to me that if the plan is to play him as soon as possible (i.e. this year), they may as well start from Week 1. Otherwise he isn’t working a full load; he would be working the scout team with backups, and his opportunity to learn diminishes.

    Seems to me that they oughta go Week 1 this year, or Week 1 next year. I don’t think Week 9, or whatever, makes sense.

    I guess if I had to wager, I would bet he starts Week 1 this year. The future is now.

    in reply to: day 3 thread #43017
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    Cooper sounds like a good player. But a slot receiver described as a Swiss Army Knife? Isn’t that what Tavon Austin is?

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