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ZooeyModeratorFrom what I saw, that whole unit is a problem, it’s not just Karty. On the missed FG there was both penetration from the outside and a leaping blocker at the line, and he tried and failed to kick around the interference, which of course was a doomed effort.
I would like to see someone explain why that unit is such a mess. And again it’s not just Karty.
I’m wondering why nobody is pointing the finger at the ST coach.
ZooeyModeratorAs with most games so far this season, I was working on a kitchen remodel with the laptop flipped open somewhere, but I didn’t feel bad about not giving this one my full attention. The Rams blew their doors off, and it could have been worse if they hadn’t pulled back. Long sustained drives ending with scores. That’s just how that is.
Nate Landman is a difference-maker. When opportunity presents itself, he strikes.
I streamed some LA station after the game, and they were expecting Karty to get released today. I don’t know if we are quite there yet, but the ice sheet under him is melting.
ZooeyModeratorLooking at the old Martz (2000-20005) drafts, makes me appreciate McSnead.
Their drafting was fantastically terrible.
The 1970s, though.
1971
1 Isiah Robertson
1 Jack Youngblood
3 Dave Elmendorf1973
2 Cullen Bryant
2 Ron Jaworski
2 Jim Youngblood1975
1 Mike Fanning
1 Dennis Harrah
1 Doug France
2 Monte Jackson
4 Rod Perry
7 Pat Haden1976
1 Kevin McLain
2 Pat Thomas
3 Jackie Slater
5 Carl Ekern1977
1 Bob Brudzinski
2 Nolan Cromwell
2 Billy Waddy
3 Ed Fulton
3 Wendell Tyler
4 Vince Ferragamo
ZooeyModeratorLast year of his rookie deal. Enough time to earn a 2nd contract?
Probably. If he doesn’t miss games.
ZooeyModeratorAtlanta and San Francisco lost.
I’ll take it.
ZooeyModerator49ers very seriously on the ropes.
23-7 midway through 3rd quarter.
And Atlanta down 24-3 to the Dolphins.
Good week for the Rams to not play the Saints, apparently.
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ZooeyModeratorRodrigue basically said that Shula’s superpower is isolating then fixing problems. Rams have been poor tacklers for ages now, but evidently or obviously he addressed it this year.
This is one thing I’ve never understood about football, though. I understand that players might need to be taught how to react to certain motions and formations, and so on.
But why the hell does a coach have to emphasize tackling. Like…that’s your job. That’s the main thing. That’s what your paycheck is for. Get to the man with the ball, wrap him up, and throw him down.
And yet… it really appears that when a coach emphasizes tackling, teams improve in that area. It’s just that… how did you make your varsity team in high school if you can’t get after the ball carrier.
ZooeyModerator<Rams are tied for the fewest missed tackles in the league
I like that Seattle is second in missed tackles. Puka is capable of adding to that total.
ZooeyModeratorMight as well skim the Rams remaining ten games. The 49er game in two weeks, is what-you-call a Must-Win, I’d say.
I’m assuming they will beat the Saints and be 6-2. That next stretch 49er-Seahawks-Bucs is inter esting.
Yeah, that’s a crucial stretch of games, but I think this entire stretch is uphill. The Saints are probably the only “pushover” game. Carolina has been better than expected, as has Atlanta. Those two teams, as well as the mystifying Cardinals, are teams that “on any given Sunday” could pull out a victory, but the Rams are gonna win most, if not all of those games. The other 5 seem like a FG decides it.
ZooeyModeratorIts amazing to me, that a bunch of NFL asshole billionaire capitalists created this NFL cap thing. I cant believe its lasted this long, either. I know Jerry Jones has pushed against it from time to time, but in the end he’s always backed off.
Turns out that when a rising tide lifts all boats, it’s a good thing.
Who would have thunk?
ZooeyModeratorNot a good look.
ZooeyModeratorIn the NFL its more of a meritocracy type thing. I think.
The NFL model is better. I don’t know enough about it to know why. But in the NFL, you don’t get owners who pocket the gate/etc. profits, and just let team equity grow,all while functionally acting as a farm system for other teams. AFAIK,all teams spend ~ the same amount on payroll, give or take a percent.
That is why, though, I think a cap isn’t enough. There has to be a window. You can’t let the Marlins spend 27% of their revenue on payroll while the Mets spend 90% of their revenue, especially when the Mets have substantially more revenue.
October 21, 2025 at 11:14 pm in reply to: around the league week 7 stuff, including games & aftermaths #158820
ZooeyModeratorJim Otto lived in my town (pop. 11,000). Owned a Burger King (that got shut down bc of tax evasion) in which he had built a shrine to himself in the dining room. He and his wife had big SUVs with personalized plates. Used to see them driving around once in awhile. Never personally met him, but he seemed to announce his arrival everywhere he went.
That aside… he was a badass football player.
ZooeyModeratorNow, does anyone really think the Dodgers or the Blue Jays would be in the World Series if they payrolls like the Chicago White Sox ( 78 million)
Do you think the Pirates would be in the playoffs if they spent $125 million more on salaries? Because they made $200m in profit last year. Where’s that money going? Don’t just look at the gross salary numbers. Look at the % of revenue that is going to salaries.
I’m conflicted on this. Money is a factor, and a lot of money is an advantage. One of them. And a salary cap might compress the top somewhat. But I don’t think it would “level” the field. It might make the playoffs a bit more likely for the teams in the second tier, but I think the Pirates’ business model is to keep salaries low, and keep the profits for themselves.
ZooeyModeratorSF radio guys more upbeat about the 49ers than at any time in the past year or more.
Why not? They are 5-2, are 3-0 in the NFC West, and have a last place schedule. Kittle’s back. Aiyuk, Pearsall, and Purdy are expected back this season, and probably Jennings. Mac Jones has not been a drop-off from Purdy in the least.
Mainly, they love Robert Salah and McCaffrey’s return to form last night. Optimism reigns out here, and it’s depressing.
ZooeyModeratorI really wasn’t sure if I was favoring anybody, but I turned on the game with about 6 minutes left, and I instinctively started rooting for the Falcons.
McCaffrey appears to be fine, btw.
ZooeyModeratorI expected a QB controversy considering how well Garoppolo handled the victory formation.
ZooeyModeratorI’ve thought it over.
A tie, with both Bijan Robinson and Christian McCaffrey suffering high ankle sprains. I think that’s a compromise I can make.
ZooeyModeratorFinally a decisive win from beginning to end. Still, looked like the Jags beat themselves anyway. Lots of unforced errors, including the penalties, and lots of drops. Bad play-calling/clock management at the end of the half. They just look jet-lagged. I don’t know what they look like when they are playing well, but that wasn’t it. In any event, the final score is more indicative of poor Jaguar performance than Rams domination.
Looked like the Rams took their foot off the gas at 21-0, but then reasserted themselves late in the 3rd. One would expect better offensive statistics, too, considering 5 TDs. Williams only 54 yards rushing, and even with 12 carries by Corum, they did not come close to 100 yards rushing combined. Stafford threw 5 touchdown strikes, and yet only 182 yards passing? If you gave me the game stats (without including TD passes), I certainly wouldn’t have guessed a 28-point blowout, and might have guessed the Jags won if I looked at Lawrence’s yard total.
But the Rams tallied 7 sacks, played steady, largely mistake-free football in the rain, and are now 5-0 against the AFC.
Would that they were better than 0-2 against the NFC.
On to the bye week and a return in two weeks against the Saints for what is hopefully a tune-up, then SF after that to start a tough, important stretch of games against good NFC teams.
ZooeyModeratorThe best outcome the Rams can hope for with the Atlanta/SF game is a tie.
I’ve given this conundrum ample consideration for the past 2 days, and my thorough, proprietary analysis came to the conclusion that the best thing would be a 9er victory that sees Christian McCaffrey go down with a high ankle sprain.
I did not consider the possibility of a tie, though, so I may have to rerun my analysis.
ZooeyModeratorOn paper, it’s LA’s game, primarily due to the defense.
From that it looks like JAX is good in the red zone on defense, matching the Rams’ weakness.
ZooeyModeratorMatthew Stafford and a stingy run defense: 10 stats that tell the story of Rams’ season
By Nate Atkins
Oct. 15, 2025BALTIMORE — The Los Angeles Rams are six games into the 2025 season and feeling like they’re mostly on track for the goals they want to accomplish.
They’re 4-2 and in a three-way tie for first place in the NFC West with the San Francisco 49ers and Seattle Seahawks. Their goal is to win the division, secure a home playoff game and start a push toward another trip to the Super Bowl in Matthew Stafford’s age-37 season.
Six games are a sufficient sample to see some key trends emerge. Here are 10 numbers that explain their season to date:
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The yards Stafford has thrown for, the most of any quarterback. He has never finished first in passing yards across 17 seasons, so it speaks to the level he’s playing at.In a world of two-high shells to take away the deep ball, the Rams are finding ways to create chunk gains consistently through the air thanks to the intermediate part of the field, where Stafford spams Puka Nacua and Davante Adams along the sideline and between the hashes.
His arm still flashes enough strength to scare defenses into those shells, and it’s giving him spots between the levels to use that strength to deliver the ball quickly before defenders can adjust.
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Stafford’s passer rating, which is currently the best of his career. It edges out the 106.0 he posted in his second-to-last season with the Detroit Lions in 2019. The similarity between the two is their small sample size: he played just eight games in 2019 and six so far this season.So, the likelihood is that the number will come down. However, he still has a chance to post his best full-season rating, which would mean topping the 102.9 from his first season with the Rams in 2021. That season, he threw 41 touchdown passes and led the Rams to a Super Bowl victory.
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The receptions that Nacua has had in every game where he’s played at least 60 percent of the snaps. The exception was Sunday, when he suffered a sprained ankle in the second quarter and finished with two catches. Nacua has eight more catches than any other player in the NFL, and it’s the consistency that’s most impressive.He isn’t racking up crazy numbers per catch or breaking away for long touchdowns. Still, he’s providing such a strong floor to the Rams’ offense and is a key reason Stafford looks so in control, as he’s able to get into a rhythm quickly by sending passes Nacua’s way.
The Rams will have to adjust if Nacua misses time with this injury. If Stafford has been the team’s MVP through six weeks, Nacua isn’t far off. His absence for stretches against the Baltimore Ravens and Houston Texans shows how hard it is for Los Angeles to adjust its game plan, which is built so much around Nacua, when he’s not on the field.
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The blocked kicks the Rams have allowed this season. They’re currently on pace to have 11 blocks.It’s become enough of a problem that coach Sean McVay opted to pass up a short field goal to potentially take a three-score lead in the fourth quarter against the Ravens to go for it on fourth down. Granted, the blocks were only part of the threat to that unit, as kicker Joshua Karty also missed a 26-yarder earlier in the game, and the Rams had a bad snap on another one of his field goal attempts.
However, so many playoff games come down to field goals, so the Rams will have to figure this out, as it’s arguably cost them both of their losses this season.
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The number of 100-yard rushers the Rams have allowed this season. It happened on Sunday, when Derrick Henry ran for 122 yards on 24 carries, notably without linebacker Omar Speights on the field for Los Angeles.However, to get to the sixth game before allowing a 100-yard rusher is impressive, considering the three running backs the Rams faced before Sunday were Saquon Barkley, Jonathan Taylor and Christian McCaffrey. Los Angeles is allowing just 3.8 yards per carry, which ranks seventh in the league, and it’s the only defense that has yet to allow a run of 20 yards or more.
That’s a credit to the addition of linebacker Nate Landman, in particular. He just set the Rams’ single-game franchise record with 17 tackles on Sunday. It also says something about the addition of Poona Ford up front, the growth of Jared Verse as an edge setter and the sneaky value of Quentin Lake.
The Rams saw their 2024 season end when Barkley ran all over them in the divisional round of the playoffs, and it’s looking like they’ve shored up that weakness.
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The percentage of red zone trips the Rams are cashing in for touchdowns, which ranks 25th in the NFL. For an offense that ranks in the top 10 nearly everywhere else, it’s one of the most significant areas of growth for this team to go from good to elite.It’s due to a few factors: The field shrinks on the routes Nacua and Adams run, and defenses often double-team Nacua to force the ball elsewhere. The Rams don’t have a great pass-catching tight end, and this is usually the area of the field where they can shine in two-tight-end sets and with play action. Stafford doesn’t provide a run threat, so the number of blockers is difficult to manufacture in the run game when teams stack the box.
However, between Kyren Williams’ growth as a receiver and the talent of Terrance Ferguson and Tutu Atwell, there’s reason to believe this can improve. If it does, the Rams will have one of the best offenses across the board.
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The consecutive regular-season games in which Byron Young has recorded at least half a sack. His 7.5 sacks this season trail only Denver Broncos star Nik Bonitto’s eight.This helps explain the value of Verse as well, as offenses have shifted their protections to him after his NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year campaign last season. Verse is generating pressure on 18.3 percent of his rushes, and his power to collapse the pocket has paired beautifully with Young’s speed to chase down the quarterback to give the Rams one of the top edge duos in the NFL.
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The percentage of defensive snaps the Rams are playing in Cover 3, according to Football Insights. The only teams running it more are the Atlanta Falcons and Las Vegas Raiders.Cover 3 was in vogue about a decade ago, when the Seahawks rode that model with the “Legion of Boom” to build one of the best defenses ever. It’s faded some in favor of two-high shells to take away the deep passes. However, it has been a good coverage for teams that build around good safeties, as it allows cornerbacks to play in press and funnel routes inward.
That has fit the Rams in some ways this season. They have three strong coverage safeties in Lake, Kam Curl and Kamren Kinchens. However, they also lost their most physical outside cornerback in Ahkello Witherspoon to injured reserve.
If the Rams do make a cornerback addition to fill his absence, expect it to be a physical one.
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The targets that Nacua and Adams have seen this season. Nacua ranks first in the NFL with 65, and Adams is seventh with 55. The next-most targeted player on the Rams is Williams, with just 23.It’s a testament to a few things: how good these two receivers are, how much Stafford likes to throw to his top targets and how void of steady receivers the Rams are elsewhere with the personnel they’re choosing to play. Atwell and Ferguson are the most talented pass catchers outside of Nacua and Adams, yet they’ve struggled to find playing time.
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The yards per reception Atwell is averaging thus far. He has just four catches on nine targets in the five games he’s played in. However, to turn four catches into 164 yards is impressive, and it speaks to how he’s either a forgotten or hidden weapon in this offense.The Rams brought Atwell back on a one-year, $10 million deal in the offseason to serve as a late-game lever and an injury replacement for Nacua or Adams, since the passing game is built entirely around those two targets. When they are humming, the Rams prefer to play Jordan Whittington over Atwell because of his run-blocking.
However, whether Nacua is limited or out this Sunday, Atwell should see his first legitimate role in the game plan as an outside receiver, and his deep-speed skill set is obvious.
ZooeyModeratorGeez, Atlanta looked like the superior team against Buffalo. Josh Allen was under duress all game long. Sacked 4 times. Falcons now 3-2
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vI most definitely had this game down as a Loss for atl before the season started, and I did my calculations for how high their draft pick would be.
They will now have to drop a game to New Orleans to make it up to me.
ZooeyModeratorStafford’s accuracy seems off this year.
Higbee was wide open on that all of 2 yards downfield, and he threw it behind him while under minimal pressure.
In the first half he was off. First half, he was 8 of 15 for 77 yards.
In the 2nd half he was 9 of 11 for 104 yards a 1 TD. 81.8%, 9.45 an attempt. I mean it was the Ravens D, but still, if prorated for the whole season that would be 1st in completion percentage and 2nd in ypa.
Rams are a 2nd half team. Stafford is a 2nd half qb.
Having said that, yes, slow starts are annoying and need to be fixed.
It’s just odd the way Stafford can nail a house fly from 40 yards away and miss somebody in the flat. That’s football, though.
ZooeyModeratorStafford’s accuracy seems off this year.
Higbee was wide open on that all of 2 yards downfield, and he threw it behind him while under minimal pressure.
ZooeyModeratorI don’t know how he managed to get injured on that play. It looked like there was no contact, no awkward landing, nothing.
And he routinely gets piled up in car wrecks every week that make me shudder.
ZooeyModerator… i don’t know what’s wrong with the kicking game. i don’t know if it’s karty or the unit as a whole. i just hope it gets fixed.
Its gotta be infuriating McVay.
Especially since there are so many kickers in the NFL now, who are making 60 yard FGs look routine.
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vThe blocked kicks are the big problem, imo. Karty should have hit that FG, even with the windy conditions, but doinking a kick off the upright doesn’t seem like a reason to panic.
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ZooeyModeratorThe Rams showed up for third quarter anyway.
I was hoping for a complete game, but I’ll take it.
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