Well, I just haven’t processed all of this yet. I have to say, a part of me knew all this was going on. But a part of me didn’t realize it was so pervasive, and so completely over-the-top, so often. I’m not surprised by any of the cases. I am a little surprised that so many people are soooo blatant about it. I mean…really? You’re going to take pictures of your erection and send it? Or whip it out as an Opening Move? Grope without getting signals first? And keep coming back with more when the first blatant play was refused?

It isn’t just a rare knucklehead. It seems to be widespread amongst the rich and powerful. And I’m going to guess among the poor and powerless as well.

I’m waiting for the backlash. Cuz you know it’s coming. The “Men Are the Real Victims Here” argument.

It’s beyond depressing.

wv wrote:

Zooey wrote:

That’s not Brockers or Wentz or the playcall or the blocking. That’s just what fucking happened.

I don’t know.

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Tom Mack still hasnt moved. Thats all i know.

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Is that the Worst Ref Call in Rams’ history?

I can’t think of a worse call.

There have to be contenders, but I can’t even think of any right now. Of course, the older I’ve got, the more I’ve learned to accept bad calls as “bad bounces,” so they may not stick with me with the same force.

I liked the chances of the Rams against the Vikings, the Saints, and the Eagles.

The Vikes beat them.

They beat the Saints.

The Eagles game was there for the taking, and the Rams’ inexperience cost them that game.

The Seahawks…well, the Rams nearly beat them in spite of 5 turnovers, including the Gurley fumble that fate could have turned the other way, and the Rams could have gone up big right there. Even so, they had the ball in the end zone as time expired, and could have won. They outplayed Seattle that day, except for 5 turnovers.

Now Seattle is down Chancellor, Sherman, Avril (again), and maybe Wagner. So although it is in Seattle, the Rams ought to have superiority in numbers. Superiority in talent on the field.

Both teams are going to want this game badly, obviously, so it will be an all out battle.

If that Rams lose, I will have to attribute their position in first place more to the mirage of a bad early start by Seattle than their own power as a team. I won’t doubt they are headed in the right direction, but I will see going 1-3 in these Big Games as evidence they don’t belong yet with the Big Boys.

They ought to win this game. Seattle is pretty badly damaged on defense, and the Rams are second in the league in scoring, and have a very good defense that should get the better of the weak Seattle OL. Wilson is a handful, and his receivers are good, and this will be close.

Good perspective.

Personally. I just thought it was a really good play by Chris Long. Nothing wrong with the call. Nothing wrong with how Goff held it.

Just a really good play by Long.

I think we too often tend to see things always from a Fan point of view. I mean…if it had been Quinn who did that to Wentz…we wouldn’t all be writing about how Wentz held the ball too long, or how that was a bad play call, or how the OT was a backup. We would be talking about how great Quinn was.

Long just made a really good play.

It’s too bad. He was having such a great season, and so were the Eagles.

Foles can be good enough in stretches, I think. His stay with the Rams was more of an exception than the norm for him, and he should be okay. But he isn’t Wentz.

And that dropoff is enough to bring the Eagles back closer to the pack, I think, and should make Minnesota the favorite. But I dunno.

Anyway. Bummer for him.

I got this from CBS.

At the moment, Wagner is Questionable against the Rams with a hamstring. The Seahawks’ SAM is also Questionable with a concussion.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/depth-chart/SEA/seattle-seahawks

I thought Johnson’ penalty cost the game, basically. That was a “this team is young, and needs to learn how to win” kind of moment. The Rams should have won this game.

That last play was ridiculous. A screen to Gurley would have been better. Those plays NEVER work. Didn’t matter, though, because really nothing was going to work anyway.

I agree that the Eagles OL held pretty much all day long. There were complete takedowns. Worst officiated game by far this year, imo.

It all comes down to next week. We will see how the Rams respond. Hopefully Woods is back. And I agree with PA who said Woods is more valuable than Watkins. I just haven’t seen Watkins be a difference-maker. Both Woods and Kupp have mattered more, though Watkins didn’t have an offseason with the Rams. Still.

Tough loss. With Seattle’s loss, and Minnesota’s, the Rams had a chance to make a big move, and they didn’t do it.

PA Ram wrote:

Zooey wrote:

I seriously am thinking about leaving for another country. It isn’t feasible for another decade, or so, because I still actively support a family, but I don’t want to live in a fascist country which has totally dismantled every government program except the military, and has these hateful racist divisions. Seriously, fuck this.

Nice idea. I think I’m too old for that–and my kids are here. Plus you gotta have money in a lot of cases to even get taken into another country. I’m here for the long haul. That’s just my reality. And this is in many cases a world problem too. Power wants more. Here and everywhere else. I’m not really sure how you fight it. How do you change it?

I have spent a lot of time living in other countries, so I have less apprehension about it. I have NO apprehension about it.

And when I say, “move to another country,” I don’t necessarily mean that I’m going to see about moving permanently to New Zealand, changing citizenship, and buying a house. I would explore that. See what it means. But I know I can live REALLY well in Thailand, for example, for less than $1,000 a month. And when they quit extending my visa, I’m happy to try India, or Morocco, or Peru. Frankly, there is a massive economic incentive to do that. My shitty pension, devoid of health coverage, will land me in Catfood City the way things are going in this country.

Thailand has great health care. All their doctors are trained in England or the US or Canada, and when I went into the ER there, and got xrays, I paid $17.

And…when I’m in another country…I don’t feel responsible for their culture, or their government. It gives me detachment.

I dunno. I’ve got another ten or fifteen years, probably, so it isn’t a thing, yet.

It is everywhere except around Seattle and Jacksonville. Even most of Florida gets the Rams/Eagles.

The gray area is No FOX Game because CBS has the local team. Or s

I think one of the rights greatest achievements is convincing people that ignorance is better than education. That somehow people who have learned things can’t be trusted as much as people who haven’t learned things. Educated people are either out of touch with the real world, or brainwashed by the liberal establishment.

Imagine believing that it is better to not know things than to know things.

I can’t escape believing that we are now officially done.

And I just don’t know what to do with that.

I mean…the power has been 90% consolidated, or whatever number you want, and there isn’t enough left to get a footing for a push back. The democratic experiment is over, and we are now at the mercy of sociopaths who think we STILL have too big a piece of the pie.

They completely own the means of information dissemination now, and have convinced half of America that up is down, and black is white. I mean…evangelical Christians believe Trump is a man of God. Etc. Etc. Etc. Now…the only “moral” center left in the country is the belief that the battle between good and evil is between Republicans and libtards. That’s the central morality. Bribery? Doesn’t matter. Breaking up families? Doesn’t matter. Pedophilia? Doesn’t matter. Sexual harassment? Matters if a Democrat does it. Otherwise…doesn’t matter.

The only moral principle that half the country is concerned with is the moral divide between Republicans and godless liberals. Nothing else is a principle. Party Uber Alles.

And the corporatocracy and deep state have control of all the finances, energy supplies, military/police state/judicial system, and everything that goes out of the airwaves and internet to a media-addicted population. And they seem to be completely unconcerned about killing the planet because they are going to be able to control the food and water and whatever, so they just don’t care.

And voting every couple of years doesn’t patch the hole in my soul.

PA Ram wrote:

Zooey wrote:

Would the fountain of your mind were clear again, that I might water an ass at it.

I’m putting that on a bumper sticker and slapping it on my car.

That is a great quote from the Earl of Oxford.

Knobby-brained heretic. I had rather be a tick in a sheep than such a valiant ignorance.

You know…go rewatch that TD pass to Reynolds, and keep an eye on Watkins at the top of the screen. What was that?

Looks like there may be a Tree, but no Woods.

Rams’ Alec Ogletree: Trending towards playing Sunday
by RotoWire Staff | RotoWire
Ogletree (elbow) would not have practiced today had there been a regular padded practice but appears to be making good progress this week, Lindsey Thiry of the Los Angeles Times reports.

The Rams had a light practice Wednesday which allowed Ogletree to take part in the team activities. While it would be nice to see him get a full padded practice in before Sunday’s contest, the team has noted a fair level of confidence in regards to his progression. We should have a better indication of Ogletree’s availability for Week 14 as the week moves closer to Sunday.

December 6, 2017 2:13 pm
Rams’ Robert Woods: No timetable for return
by RotoWire Staff | RotoWire
Head coach Sean McVay said Wednesday that Woods (shoulder) doesn’t have a precise timetable for a return, Lindsey Thiry of the Los Angeles Times reports.

Last Thursday, McVay predicted Woods may be able to play Week 14, but Dec. 17 at Seattle was the more likely date for his next appearance. McVay seems to have changed his tune slightly regarding the Rams’ No. 1 wide receiver, who has yet to take part in practice since injuring his left shoulder Week 11. Furthering the narrative was Woods’ listing as a non-participant on Wednesday’s estimated injury report, per Rich Hammond of the Los Angeles Daily News. Ideally, Woods will get the all-clear at some point before the postseason begins, but it remains to be seen when he’ll reach 100 percent.

I’m going to write a book:

“Inside the Beltway: Why It Doesn’t Make Any Difference If Something Is True, or Not.”