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April 5, 2018 at 12:48 am in reply to: articles & vids on the Cooks trade plus Cooks highlights etc. #84932
ZooeyModeratorYeah, the third team on a rookie deal is the thing that worries me the most. Why trade a guy who is really, really good, and a good value?
In the case of the Pats, they have a history of inexpensive WRs for the most part, and Cooks has one more year left. But…still. And why did the Saints trade him?
ZooeyModeratorI mentioned this elsewhere on the internet, but for the Rams this season either ends up a rousing success or a fantastic disaster. There is to be no in between.
Yes, it certainly looks that way. It is not going to be a boring season, that’s for sure.
ZooeyModeratorSo…no first, and no second.
I guess the Rams’ draft is over except for developmental guys.
I don’t know Cooks. But the Rams better sign him to a long term deal. I don’t want to give up a first round pick for a rental.
ZooeyModeratorVery nice read.
They are properly terrified.
Now…just got to deliver their fears to them in a red hot package.
ZooeyModeratorI think he is too expensive in terms of trade capital, and cap space. And in spite of his reputation as a good teammate who plays hard, I just…no. I’d rather have kept Watkins.
ZooeyModeratorseems like we have a lot of holes to fill. Maybe we should consider bringing Barwin back.
The Rams have said they want him back, and I don’t think there is any obstacle to that. If the Rams actually DO want him, they will get him. It’s not like Barwin is going to get a contract offer somewhere that the Rams just can’t match. He’s basically a JAG, and he has more value to the Rams than he does to any other team. If he signs elsewhere, it will only be because Wade doesn’t actually want him.
ZooeyModeratorHere’s a case for OB made by CBS which lists the Rams as the #1 best fit for a trade.
1. Los Angeles Rams
The Rams have been busy this offseason, and they may not be done, even after signing Ndamukong Suh Monday. The New York Daily News’s Pat Leonard reported Monday that the team has already talked to the Giants about trading Beckham. The asking price: A first-round pick plus other compensation, though Leonard writes that any trade “likely won’t require two first-round picks to get it done.”Meanwhile, SNY’s Ralph Vacchiano described trade talks between the Giants and other teams thusly: “zero, nada, zilch.”
The Rams, which traded for shutdown cornerbacks Marcus Peters and Aqib Talib, do have a need for a playmaking pass catcher, a role Sammy Watkins never grew into last season. Watkins signed with the Chiefs earlier this month, leaving a wide-receiver corps that includes Cooper Kupp (62 catches, 869 yards, five TDs), Robert Woods (56 catches, 781 yards, five TDs) and running back Todd Gurley (64 catches, 788 yards, six TDs).
The addition of Beckham would make the Rams’ offense, which ranked sixth in the league in 2017, even more dangerous.
Added bonus: Los Angeles has $31.3 million in salary-cap space, according to Spotrac.com, which is the sixth-most in the NFL.
Part of the reason the Rams have so much cap space: Jared Goff is midway through his rookie deal. This also explains why the team is stacking its roster — after going 11-5 in coach Sean McVay’s first season, they’re ready for a Super Bowl run now; there is no waiting for Goff to grow into his role because he proved last season that he’s a capable quarterback. And before the Rams have to sign him to an extension that will almost certainly cost $30 million a year, they’re replicating what the Seahawks did early in Russell Wilson’s tenure and what the defending Super Bowl champion Eagles are doing now.
It’s a sound strategy if you have a proven young quarterback, and even sounder if you can find a way to pair him with a player like Beckham.
And I wonder about that. I wonder if the premise is indeed correct that the time to strike for the Super Bowl is right now, this season, because of the cap pressures they will have with second contracts for a number of critical players.
ZooeyModeratorWell…they traded away their team leader in tackles. Ogletree had 95 combined solo and assisted tackles last year. So, obviously, without him, that’s 95 more TDs the Rams will give up on the season…unless someone steps up there.
ZooeyModeratorI am at my personal quota of comfort with knuckleheads. Three is enough.
ZooeyModeratorleague sources say Rams done due diligence in Odell Beckham Jr. in a possible trade.
Skuze me, what?
I want no part of that.
ZooeyModeratorI feel like I should be more enthusiastic about this move.
Don’t worry.
Doesn’t matter how you feel about it now.
It matters how you feel about it in January.
ZooeyModeratorYeah, 3 years/$30 million is more or less what I was hoping for, too.
I don’t love this, but I’m not running the cap, so I’m going to forget about it and just be happy to watch the show.
And a Show it will be, for better or worse.
ZooeyModeratorLOL
ZooeyModeratorNot Williams finest debate.
ZooeyModeratorI’m in favor of it, now. I’m all in.
I think watching Suh and Donald together could very well be some big source of entertainment. I think – despite not having any blue chip LBs – this defense could just kill teams, and I love a devastating defense. I want to see it.
ZooeyModeratorIf I was a Mod, I would move this to the Huddle board. I just don’t think football has any place on this board. Personally.
ZooeyModeratorMy position is…
as a football fan, the signing of Suh concerns me.
As a spectator…a connoisseur of “entertainment”… signing Suh is Gold.
ZooeyModeratorThey are trying to impeach the judges now.
ZooeyModeratorOkay.
You guys will be relieved to know that I have been thinking about this.
And now…what I have to say is…if they sign him…I hope it is a 3-year deal heavily laden with incentives. I don’t want a one year deal because if adversity strikes, I don’t want him bailing on the team.
If Suh comes…I want HIM committed, and the Rams with an “out.”
If Wade has a plan that will work with Suh, Brockers, and Donald…good lord.
ZooeyModeratorI have always wondered what happens when Jessica Donnell-Trieste marries Thomas Neiman-Jones.
Are their kids names Amanda Donnell-Trieste-Neiman-Jones?
ZooeyModeratorWell, Wade must think Suh can fit, or why would he waste time bringing him in for a visit?
There’s a salary cap in football.
You don’t go, “Oh, well, I have six cars that do everything I need, but this car is on the market, and if it’s below market value, maybe I’ll take it.”
It just doesn’t work that way. Suh would cost a lot of money, even if he took a discount…and I don’t know why he would. You don’t spend that money if there’s not a place for him, and you don’t take him for a test drive if you know he doesn’t fit, and costs too much. That’s a waste of everybody’s time.
But I don’t want him.
Donald is a better player, and a better teammate, and we already have him. So go get somebody to put on a hard hat, and plug the middle for 1/10th the cost of Suh. Like Easley.
ZooeyModeratora 1 and 3 2s.
Better be worth it.
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Whether that works for the Jets or not will be seen down the road, I guess, but I would take that deal without hesitation if I was the Colts. Move down 3 spots for 3 second rounders?
In a heartbeat.
ZooeyModeratorThe Democrats are such an easy target. They are the Ozzie Canseco of politics. They want so badly to be like their twin brother, but they just suck at it.
ZooeyModeratorI am down on TEs, period. I agree with WV. Conwell was the most recent likable TE.
I don’t understand it. A professional football player should be able to both block, and catch a pass. Heck, I played a lot of flag football in my youth, and I could block, catch, pass, and run. I don’t understand why professional athletes are no good at it.
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ZooeyModeratorThere was a guy named Big Tex. And there were several Vikings fans. The only one I remember, though, is Mjollnir’s Wrath because he could actually communicate. Like SaintsAlive. They were welcome additions.
CaliforniaTom. Big Tex. Oh, and Happy4LA.
ZooeyModeratorIt would have been easier to follow if you hadn’t posted the Gonzalez article one minute before I posted my remark, since that blew the timing of the joke. It’s like you were the drunk guy at the club that yelled out something right over the punchline. And it was worth a 3/10 even as is.
ZooeyModeratorJesus was his agent?
ZooeyModeratorhttps://www.netflix.com/watch/80104629?trackId=200257859
Hated in the Nation
March 15, 2018 at 10:14 pm in reply to: sources say the Rams are now intent on keeping Tavon Austin #84098
ZooeyModeratorI aint a fan anymore. Too many muffs, too many drops, too many fumbles.
I think they will always outweigh the big plays.I aint a fan of Phar.Cooper either, btw.
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vWell, I can’t guess what made you start hating America like this, but I guess the next step in your descent is to become a fan of the Nittany Lions.
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