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Well…I’m gonna just throw this out. I don’t think I’ve said this on this board.

I think the best argument to convince a leftist/progressive to vote for Biden is that it’s quite possibly the last chance to vote meaningfully.

If Trump wins. And the GOP has control. They will not only finish the redistricting job on the basis of this year’s census, they will pass more laws restricting/suppressing the vote, and probably put in more unaccountable electric voting machines, and back all that up with courts they will continue to stack. It will be Over over. You won’t be able to elect a progressive in 2024 even if there is one, and that person gets the most votes. They are THAT close to shutting off life support for democracy.

This country is drowning, and the only thing to grab is a rotten, water-logged piece of old driftwood. But that’s all there is. I mean…it would be better if there was a life preserver, but there’s not.

I read Dune for the first time a summer or two ago and liked it. Never read the sequels because I heard they weren’t good. I was glad to see a new movie was coming out. I never saw the first movie with Kyle and Sting, and heard that I wouldn’t understand it anyway since I’d never read the book.

I think the movie has made the still suits a little…slight. At least in my head, the still suit was more of a mask/helmet thing. Not good for acting, however.

I don’t know what he is cutting or not cutting apart from Medicaid and one other “poor people item” that I don’t recall. It wouldn’t make any difference to me if it was “fair” in the sense that everything else was cut proportionately. I think the bottom HALF of the country should all get significant pay raises. You look at the increase in economic production over the past 40 years and overlay that with a graph of where that money has gone, and the bottom 80% of the country has had stagnant wages while wealth has greatly increased. That just isn’t right. The country is working harder, longer, and producing more, and not getting a slice of that wealth AT ALL, let alone a proportionate slice.

So when a politician says they want to make the most vulnerable people in our society do with even LESS?

Yeah. Not gonna get my support. Raise taxes. Or force employers to pay their workers more. Or force employers to provide benefits. Whatever.

But you’re not taken even more away from poor people with my support not matter what rationale you offer.

joemad wrote:

East Coast bias

Gov of CA has done a much better job than Cuomo.

Newsome implemented quarantines sooner than NY did… Newsome took a lot of shit for doing that, but it’s paid off big time.

Newsome also dealt with medical equipment shortages better than NY did. So much so that CA has exported equipment surplus to needy states and countries.

Just be glad that John COCKS err Cox from Indiana didn’t win the Ca governor’s election a few years back… California would be a fucking mess today….

John Cox. I forgot about that guy. He was certainly a piece of work. He never had a chance, though.

Yeah, imo Newsom has done a better job, too. I’m also from CA, but what you said is true. Newsom acted faster, more comprehensively, and has emerged as a leader in organizing states together as a consortium to band together and negotiate to buy supplies and equipment, rather than descend into the bidding war that had started. It’s almost like…a bunch of States United got organized by an executive who operated in the best interest of the people nationwide. It’s kind of a weird concept, but it got me thinking…what if ALL the states did that? You know…united under an executive branch that made it a priority to look after the interest of people?

Waterfield, as you probably know, is also from California. So I’m a little surprised to see him two-timing with Cuomo.

Well…see…that’s fine. I am fine with his leadership in this crisis. His personality doesn’t mean much to me, but I prefer his bedside manner to Trump’s.

He wants to cut the state budget on the backs of poor people, though. So…he’s a non-starter for me because that’s something I will never compromise on.

So basically minorities are going to be hit disproportionately with fatality from coronavirus.

Of course.