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Are these motherfuckers really wearing kente cloth https://t.co/O5QD7L0Kqx
— Benjamin Dixon (@BenjaminPDixon) June 8, 2020
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Why it matters that Roger Goodell didn’t say Colin Kaepernick’s name
The killing of George Floyd by four Minneapolis police officers has created a surprising flashpoint, an acknowledgement by previously disbelieving white people of the violence historically inflicted upon African Americans and a sudden, jarring suggestion that America is ready to deal directly with the terrible truths that violence has entailed: Police treat black citizens harshly with devastating consequences. Prosecutors are reluctant to charge police. Juries are even more reluctant to convict them. In the rare case of a conviction, judges are unwilling to punish them with firm prison sentences — if any jail time at all. Corporations across the country, including now the NFL, have pledged solidarity with their black citizens, seeking to reflect harmony by using the term “Black Lives Matter.” Since the inception of the term, law enforcement agencies have co-opted it with their own “Blue Lives Matter” while attempting to link the original with domestic terrorism — a characterization that those same corporations using the term now did little to refute then.
Included prominently in the nationwide protests is the gesture of taking a knee toward the American flag. It’s a distress signal indicating that the country has not lived up to the democratic ideals it spreads across the globe — ideals it tells soldiers that their uniforms and flag represent, ideals Americans believe separate them from countries that jail, kill and otherwise silence their citizens. It is Colin Kaepernick’s symbol, and it is used everywhere — by children and high school students who reference him as their inspiration, and now by police and politicians to quell public anger directed at them to suggest finally, after so much time, a willingness to listen.
It is also the symbol NFL owners used as justification to destroy Kaepernick’s NFL career. In 2017, it was the NFL that sent the message nationwide that kneeling was illegitimate, and by extension, criticism of police. Three years later, the NFL carries the greatest burden of any sports league to rectify the damage it now admits it has done.
After the sloganeering and statements, the NFL serves as a microcosm of the corrections Americans are now expecting. Kaepernick is not vindicated because he is still being punished. Nor did he reveal something black people did not know. He was punished for supporting them.
The league must answer the question of today’s moment: Is this a reckoning, or is it a dance? NFL commissioner Roger Goodell released a recorded statement Friday night attempting to reconcile with players in response to a video players released Thursday night featuring Deshaun Watson and Patrick Mahomes and several others demanding acknowledgement on the part of the NFL that their protests be taken seriously. But like other corporations across the country that have decried violence, racism and intolerance while barely mentioning police, Goodell offered condolences to the families affected by police brutality without acknowledging the reason people are in the streets in the first place: They want it to end.
At issue is whether Americans will undertake the journey of truth, a journey for which they have typically lacked the stamina and willpower to complete. From sports to Hollywood to politics — but predictably not from police unions — the corporate statements to engage have written a large and prominent contract with the public. But the omissions have not gone unnoticed, undermining the legitimacy of the sentiments that have captured the country. If the term “police brutality” is so incendiary that it cannot be said, how can anyone be taken seriously when they say they want to fight it?
Goodell’s statement also did not mention the name “Kaepernick,” the surest sign yet that the NFL is unserious about the actual work that needs to be done to make this right. Goodell apologized for the NFL not listening to players, and even this basic, ostensibly conciliatory statement is false. The NFL did listen to players. It listened to Malcolm Jenkins. It listened to Anquan Boldin. It listened to white players, such as Drew Brees and its white ex-players-turned-broadcasters, such as Boomer Esiason, who were offended by Kaepernick’s position. It listened to its white fans. The NFL did a lot of listening — and concluded the course of action was to punish black people — which they have not undone. Even when trying to reach the truth, Goodell still could not tell it.
Confronting the truth about racism and its effects is when America is not at its aspirational best, but its defiant, denying worst; it fails looking in the mirror at its true self in ways in which Germany and South Africa have succeeded. America has not yet proved it is willing to put in the hard work. Goodell’s statement might have helped the NFL win the short-term battle to mollify its young stars of tomorrow, but it will lose in the long term because it is not Watson or Mahomes or Odell Beckham Jr. who require the apology. It is Colin Kaepernick.
The NFL heard a warning that America was fraying, and in response constructed an entire machine to undermine Kaepernick — and became an active partner in dividing the nation. Buffalo Bills owner Terry Pegula conceived of the organization that would become the Players Coalition, led by Jenkins and Boldin, when he felt the league needed a player-run, black-player-headed organization to address injustice issues to neutralize Kaepernick’s influence. Miami Dolphins owner Stephen Ross amplified it. Goodell and the NFL increased restrictions and penalties on kneeling demonstrations. Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones threatened the employment of any player who knelt. And, of course, all 32 teams followed suit.
Part of that machine was Jay-Z at a roundtable with Goodell last year, saying of Kaepernick, “This wasn’t about him having a job. That became part of the discussion.” People at the table nodded obediently at this latest celebrity-class erasure tactic, insulting in its ridiculousness. It was absolutely about Kaepernick having a job. He didn’t have a job because he was being punished by the NFL, not because he threw a wobbly spiral, but precisely because he advocated for black people. While Jay-Z told people to move on, Kaepernick’s unemployment was an obvious part of the injustice. The NFL was the country’s primary apparatus to demonize the kneeling gesture, and indirectly condone the very issue of police brutality it now says has no place.
It is the NFL’s black fans who also require an apology from Goodell, because in punishing Kaepernick for drawing attention to the senseless killing of black citizens, the NFL chose killer cops over loyal fans, sending the message to them, as well as the players, that their concerns were unimportant compared to white fans who objected to kneeling. Black fans did not matter to the NFL. Now, Goodell could not mention Kaepernick by name but expects the public to believe that the NFL does.
Tabula rasa is the Latin phrase for “clean slate,” and at present, the image of thousands of Americans around the country kneeling in silent, somber protest to an issue contributing to the polarization of the nation is a powerful one — one that the NFL cannot legitimately embrace without wiping the slate clean with Kaepernick. There is no third way. It is not possible to have reconciliation without truth, and the only way to reach the truth is by doing the hard work, the thankless work, the painful work of absorbing it, swallowing one’s pride, admitting mistakes.
The NFL today is in real time America of the 1970s, when the country had to admit that it was wrong in its attempt to destroy Muhammad Ali. Finally, it did, and the world did not collapse, but it healed, as most wounds do with the proper treatment. A $15 billion industry that dominates the imagination of the public should have the strength to accommodate differing opinions, whether they belong to Kaepernick or Brees. But the only opinions that received league-wide punishment were Kaepernick’s. If the league, both Goodell and to another extent Brees, expect the public to believe their statements, the next step toward real truth is opening the door to signing Kaepernick — a move that has been closed for nearly four years. If it remains closed, this flashpoint will be remembered as the moment the NFL admitted it handed out a life sentence, admitted it was wrong — and still did nothing about it.
June 6, 2020 at 5:42 pm in reply to: the one-shot tweets thread (diff'rent stuff, funny angry interesting) #115973
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Us: PLEASE STOP KILLING USGOP: No.
DNC: No, but did you see our new #BlackLivesMattters Blvd.
And how about we shoot you in the legs? That work for you guys?
June 6, 2020 at 4:30 pm in reply to: Police v. Demonstrators Protesting Killing of George Floyd #115970
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ZooeyModeratorI can’t listen to Godell on this. I’m sorry. I’m close-minded, and there is nothing he can say that won’t come across to me as this: “Hey! The tide has turned, and it looks like it’s safe for us to take the moral stand we refused to take a few years ago. So sorry. And sorry for the careers we destroyed. Let’s play ball!”
ZooeyModeratorThis week seems like a PR disaster for the police to me. But since feeds are all customized and targeted it’s hard to know what mainstream America is seeing. But…my goodness.
June 6, 2020 at 10:55 am in reply to: the one-shot tweets thread (diff'rent stuff, funny angry interesting) #115947
ZooeyModeratorI was joking.
Antifa people themselves call it “ANN-tee-fah.”
A minute or 2 of this shows that.
Yeah, I knew you were joking.
Maybe right wingers are deliberately mispronouncing it. I just saw this barf-inducing video in which the former CIA ranting guy mispronounces it while laying out a complete fiction.
Wtf is this? Now it’s “Bernie Bros” causing the civil unrest? I think this dude was radicalized by Chris Matthews. FFS, get a grip on reality. 🤦♀️ pic.twitter.com/vFaOALZi5e
— Becca 🐾🌲👣🌎 (@Becca2400) June 5, 2020
ZooeyModeratorThis town needs an enema.
June 4, 2020 at 11:31 am in reply to: Police v. Demonstrators Protesting Killing of George Floyd #115854
ZooeyModeratorHe has since been released, but has now had his tires slashed and windows broken in his home.
Br. Miles, a regular in my city's mosque who's ONLY ever supported his community, got tackled and arrested while being interviewed WITH BOTH HIS HANDS UP! pic.twitter.com/J537JN36sg
— Laith (@secretlaith) June 3, 2020
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ZooeyModeratorYeah, I have watched a lot of Funky-Academic’s vids over the last month, but I dont really buy what he’s selling on this topic. I can only speculate wildly, but immho, he is doing all kinds of mental-contortion to avoid the conclusion that many many blacks were dummed-down and consequently voted against their own interest. Just like with Whites.
I just dont buy the notion that blacks voted for Biden because they knew Biden was not going to do shit. And they liked that.
They voted for Biden (imho) because Biden is connected to Obama. And they voted for Obama because he is black, and because they were dummed down enough to think that Mr Black-Corporate-Goldman-Sachs was on their side.
In an idiocracy its not only Whites who have been idiot-ized. Blacks are not immune to Corporate Propaganda. And the funky academic just cant come out and say it.
I think guys like Adolph Reed Jr. might very well come out and say it if he were asked.
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vYeah, sure. I think there was not only the Obama connection, but also Clyburn endorsed Biden, and that was it for South Carolina. Then came the Media Onslaught, and all the dropping out and endorsing Biden, and Warren stayed in it, and the media complied with the DNC narrative about Biden, and SC was a domino that fell across the South and even other places.
And that is how the planet ended, son. Goodnight, now.
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ZooeyModeratorBall and Saagar interviewed a black man after South Carolina, or Super Tuesday, some guy from the South. I don’t remember if he was a professor, or what his credentials were, but he said blacks in the South voted for Biden because they simply weren’t going to trust a white man’s promises (Sanders) since they are beyond allowing themselves to hope that one day a white man will actually keep his promise to do something. They know Biden isn’t going to change anything, but at least he isn’t promising to change anything, so they know what they will get with him.
He actually made a pretty interesting case for that.
I just searched for the video, but couldn’t find it. It would probably help if I remembered his name.
ZooeyModeratorMy point was to address your claim that cops should NEVER shoot to kill. I simply asked to put yourself in a similar position. Personally, I think that in the flash of a moment -i.e. being attacked-the idea of shooting to incapacitate is laudable but likely not very practical or even safe.
And I agree with that there could well be situations in which officers are justified in just trying to hit an assailant, or threat, in a high percentage shot. Splitting hairs, maybe, but that isn’t necessarily intent to kill. It’s intent to stop the assailant, and there isn’t time to micro-target the exact area. I get it.
But nobody is protesting that, not even me. I think they should NEVER intend to kill, but I understand that they sometimes have to take shots where death is a good possibility.
Still. The problem is cops take shots…and then delay calling for medical assistance. Or shoot people in the back running away. Or kneel on their necks. Or beat them to death in the back of paddy wagons. THAT is what people want to stop.
ZooeyModeratorNow let me ask you this. You are home with your family and subject to a break in. You and your family are threatened with not just physical harm but possible death. You have a gun. (don’t dodge the Q by saying the hypo doesn’t apply because you don’t have a gun) Do you believe you have the right to be “judge, jury, and executioner” and do whatever is necessary to kill the intruder?. Now the odds are that likely will never happen to you. And you do not likely have a gun. But police see that every day.
If I had a gun, I would train with it a lot until I was very good with it.
And if I felt my family was lethally threatened, I would shoot the person. But I would shoot to incapacitate, not kill, if I could keep my cool, and I could get off a shot I liked rather than a desperation shot. If I killed the guy, at least I tried.
None of which has anything to do with any of this because nobody is protesting THOSE KINDS OF POLICE KILLINGS. C’mon, Waterfield.
June 2, 2020 at 11:55 pm in reply to: the one-shot tweets thread (diff'rent stuff, funny angry interesting) #115764
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ZooeyModeratorGiven my job I’ve had in the past to sue individual officers and police departments for unreasonable and unauthorized conduct that result in injuries to another. In that light I have reviewed police manuals from both the LAPD and the LA County Sheriffs. There is nothing about shooting an “unarmed” man or woman in the heart. Addressing an attacker the following is a brief sum of what actually is in a manual: if an officers reasonably believes his life is in danger he was the right and obligation to do what is necessary to protect himself or herself. What Biden is suggesting is that in that situation officers can and should be trained to shoot to disable an attacker rather than kill them. Many police departments do precisely that. Of course not always does an officer in the heat of an attack ask “hey are you armed”.
Common guys. I know when police conduct is outside the boundaries. But how about some fairness on this subject. Otherwise it simply smells like agenda driven politics.
My point was not about cops. My point was about Biden.
He had a WEEK to come up with a statement on this, and he came up with “shoot them in the legs?” That’s the compromise? That’s just…embarrassing.
I take it for granted that the police should NEVER shoot to kill. Never. Any fatalities at the hands of the police should be accidental. They are not judge, jury, and executioners.
June 2, 2020 at 3:10 pm in reply to: the one-shot tweets thread (diff'rent stuff, funny angry interesting) #115669
ZooeyModeratorI came across this post last night, and have to share it. I vaguely know this person. Her family went to the same church I went to as a kid, and she posted this on my idiot right-wing brother’s FB post of Trump’s tweet declaring Antifa a terrorist organization. There is just so much…well…read it for yourself. It’s breath-taking. The vast amount of gullibility required to swallow one word of this…and the inherent racism…it’s truly impressive.
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Well, the only thing they left out is the money “comes from the Clintons.”
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vLOL. Guess what? One of my brother’s other friends said she saw “George Soros’ fingerprints all over this.”
ZooeyModeratorI have to say that I also saw two examples of cops kneeling, and a half hour later teargassing people. Side-by-side photos that looked pretty convincing. It’s not definitive, of course, but…yeah….
Some of the kneeling may be insincere. Some may be sincere, but later a man has to do what a man has to do. Some kneeling may be sincere, and followed up with judicious restraint. All of those are possible, even likely.
We have to bash on, regardless, and take hope where we can while recognizing there is no easy way forward, and there will never be total victory as long as humans roam the earth.
June 2, 2020 at 10:46 am in reply to: Police v. Demonstrators Protesting Killing of George Floyd #115656
ZooeyModeratorOld man with a cane.
Salt Lake City cops shove down an elderly man with a cane for the crime of standing along the street: pic.twitter.com/PCLkHqQtJg
— Timothy Burke (@bubbaprog) May 31, 2020
June 2, 2020 at 10:34 am in reply to: the one-shot tweets thread (diff'rent stuff, funny angry interesting) #115655
ZooeyModeratorI came across this post last night, and have to share it. I vaguely know this person. Her family went to the same church I went to as a kid, and she posted this on my idiot right-wing brother’s FB post of Trump’s tweet declaring Antifa a terrorist organization. There is just so much…well…read it for yourself. It’s breath-taking. The vast amount of gullibility required to swallow one word of this…and the inherent racism…it’s truly impressive.
June 2, 2020 at 2:22 am in reply to: the one-shot tweets thread (diff'rent stuff, funny angry interesting) #115643
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