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ZooeyModerator8 (Last Week 9)
RAMS They got some revenge against the Patriots and lead the NFC West with three games to go. That defense is outstanding.
(Seattle ranked 6).
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ZooeyModeratorWell bear in mind what I said about the numbers. Rams have faced 5 of the top 10 pressure percentage defenses this year and won all 5. Goff looked decent to very good in all of them. And in addition to that, according to PRF numbers Arizona pressured him the 4th most times (16) of any games from 2018 on. So they are facing pressure. They handle it better this year with a relatively healthy, good OL than they did in 2019 with a problem OL, but that’s just to be expected.
So the issue is not pressure alone.
The games like Miami and SF this year, and Chicago in 2018, combines other things WITH pressure.
1. a top secondary that slows the passing game (it is never just pressure, it’s pressure plus facing a top secondary)…this is especially true if the secondary is slowing Goff down and getting him out of rhythm
2. no running game–either cause of the RB or the other team defends it, or McVay refuses for some inexplicable reason to run the ball (like Miami this year)
3. McVay does not adjust in-game to the defense he is facing and struggles with in-game instincts and adjustments (like the infamous 6-1 D front issue). McVay adjusts to tough defensive gameplans between games, not IN games. So for example he couldn’t crack the Patz D in the superbowl but he did the next time he played them.
4. also, pressureThe complete collapse games we have seen from Goff have all those features, it is never just one of them–and it is absolutely not just pressure. For example, Tampa is top 10 in pressure percentage on defense. Rams could not run the ball against them. They had to throw to win. In fact they threw 51 times. But it was not one of the infamous Goff meltdown games.
I just sort of feel like if any of your ideas had merit, they would be re-tweeted by John Cleese. But I’ve never seen that happen with you, so….
ZooeyModeratorThere’s this myth that he is always bad in the pocket.
No, there isn’t. There’s the observation that he isn’t one of those QBs who is slippery, and – like most QBs – his effectiveness can drop significantly under constant pressure. Few QBs transcend that, but very few of them ever had Kill Kurt drills.
You say 12-10. Most of us are saying 10-15. That’s why we’re having a board war, and if you can’t take it, maybe you should surrender like Chris Everett.
ZooeyModeratorI think they will be exhausted after putting on a show in Seattle. Just like New England was this week after crushing the San Diego Chargers of Los Angeles.
ZooeyModeratorI don’t do qbr (if you mean the espn qbr system) because it favors qbs who run with the ball. I do old fashioned qb rating.
Either way I know I can go through the vids and point to the plays where he IS doing what the more negative take says he can’t or doesn’t do.
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I don’t know. It was CBSSportsline. Stats. QB ranks by “rating.” Whatever. I was actually surprised. I would have guessed, just eyeballing it, that Goff is in the 12 – 15 range.
ZooeyModeratorYeah, that’s how I see Goff. I think he is approximately in the 12-15 range in most categories. He is above average in “Shake that shit off,” and he’s above average in accuracy – except for 10% of his throws border on WTF.
He is ranked 22 in QBR, btw, although two or three of the guys ahead of him haven’t played the entire season.
ZooeyModeratorFrom what I’ve read, the case has absolutely zero merit, and cynics suggest it has more to do with the TX AG hoping to win favor from Trump to get a pardon for the crimes he has committed rather than actually winning the case.
I do wonder what Dems would do, though, if the SCOTUS took the case, and ruled in Trump’s favor. I mean…what would they do?
On another note, I was listening to whatsherface, a WH correspondent, interviewed yesterday, and she said that Trump is refurbishing Mar-a-Lago, and he is giving every indication behind the scenes of preparing to move out.
Most people agree that he is doing all this challenge stuff just to rake in more money before he leaves.
I assume his claim that he might run in 2024 is for the same reason. He can’t actually be serious about running in 2024. That’s just keeping the tin cup extended to morons.
ZooeyModeratorHe is either oblivious to it, or has slow reactions. Seems to me.
Well, he’s not OBLIVIOUS. He sometimes sees it. Just not always.
ZooeyModeratorTee it up at home! 💪🏽#LetsGoooo #Gameday @RamsNFL pic.twitter.com/iNQdJMVwDk
— 𝒥𝒾𝓂 𝐸𝓋𝑒𝓇𝑒𝓉𝓉 (@Jim_Everett) December 10, 2020
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“I think the Rams are going to the NFC title game. I’m in.”👀Yeah, I agree with that for the reasons they gave. Good defense, good against the run, good running the ball.
I will add that they are also very good against the pass, so there’s that. It’s a good defense.
And like the handsome man said, Goff is capable of an F game, so that is their vulnerability at that stage. Brees is more reliable.
It would be something to go beat New Orleans in New Orleans again, though, eh?
…but…I get ahead of myself here.
ZooeyModeratorLooked to me like Bellichek’s plan was to dare the Rams to run, and McVay did. And Akers did.
Meanwhile, the Pats got 3 points.
So THAT was fun. I didn’t love every play, and I know the Pats are down, but that was still hugely satisfying. Felt like a good game.
The Rams still need a deep ball. And some special teams.
But I feel like this team is improving as the season rolls on, and I am starting to believe they have a shot against the Jets.
December 10, 2020 at 8:17 pm in reply to: Patz game: chat room link & predictions (game 8:20 et 5:20 pt) #125454ZooeyModeratorI am in favor of the Rams slaughtering the Patriots tonight.
I just want to say that before kickoff so I can claim I was the only one strong enough to wish for that outcome before the game started.
December 10, 2020 at 12:32 pm in reply to: Patz game: chat room link & predictions (game 8:20 et 5:20 pt) #125443ZooeyModeratorI will just add that I cannot conceive of a scenario in which Seattle beats the Jets this weekend in Seattle.
The Jets are due for a victory, and Seattle has had trouble this season with teams based just outside of New York.
(It’s interesting, btw, how NittanyRam has disappeared from the board now that his beloved Seahawks have fallen out of first place).
ZooeyModeratorThe only thing that gives me hope is Cam Newton. I have never believed in that guy.
ZooeyModeratorYep, he is an enigma, our boy Jared.
He makes WTF Throws on both ends of the spectrum.
I like his mindset. But sometimes it’s like one of his cylinders isn’t firing. I dunno.
I am increasingly pessimistic about Thursday, btw. I just don’t see enough in Goff, or enough in McVay, that gives me confidence going up against the Death Star which always peaks in December.
ZooeyModeratorLove the bonus Johnson interception from the Championship game.
ZooeyModeratorLooking at the playoffs the Rams do have some guys who can give us better play than we’ve seen. In other words we can gain explosiveness with better backfield play (both Akers and Hendy) and at WR3 (Jefferson). And our OL has actually been solid so it’s not out of the realm of reason to think that our two young RBs who have good explosiveness can boost this offense IF we get more consistency out of them
There is a drop-off at RB from a healthy Gurley. There just is. Gurley would have been a HOFer if he had knees. I think they can get good production, and good ENOUGH production from Akers/Henderson, but there is a drop-off. Don’t know if it’s from 3 to 17, but there is a drop-off.
At WR, I think they miss Cooks’ ability to go deep, but again…not a steep drop-off there. It’s not like the Rams receivers are slow. They could do it once in a while.
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United States: Over 14,000 drone strikes.US media: pic.twitter.com/AbEqY0vRck
— Ian Goodrum (@isgoodrum) December 8, 2020
December 7, 2020 at 3:35 pm in reply to: Patz game: chat room link & predictions (game 8:20 et 5:20 pt) #125354ZooeyModeratorI cannot name one player on NE apart from Cam Newton.
Patriots 13 Rams 3.
ZooeyModeratorHill has Arnold originally, and stops in the middle of the field to take the crossing Hopkins (?). So either Hill blows it, or the high Rams defender (Ramsey?) was supposed to peel off Hopkins and take the crossing Arnold. I guess. Looks like Hill played zone, and the other guy didn’t. No idea what the call was, but I do think Ramsey got talked to on the sideline after that.
#AZCardinals quarterback Brett Hundley (@bretthundley7) calls him Dan 'The Man' Arnold (@1darnold) for a reason.
Kyler Murray hits him 59 yards for the game's opening touchdown. pic.twitter.com/RenpyykAgE
— Mason Kern (@MasonKernMedia) December 6, 2020
ZooeyModeratorsosa K@QBsMVP
Random: Troy Reeder played a very solid game. He’s completely closed the gap between himself and Micah Kiser, and I think there’s a discussion to be had that he might be better than Kiser.That comment caught me by surprise.
(Thanks for compiling these tweets, zn. I always appreciate it)
ZooeyModeratorFirst of all, congratulations to Colt McCoy. I mean… who knew that guy was still in the NFL? I had completely forgotten he even existed, and yesterday, the man shredded Seattle’s defense for 105 yards passing on just 22 attempts, and ripped a hole in the hull of the Seahawks’ hopes of winning the division.
Game ball to Colt McCoy.
Secondly, the Rams defense is becoming the reason to watch them this year. They gave up a bunch of points, but they played better than the scoreboard showed. Thanks to the Rams’ formidable special teams unit for making games unnecessarily close.
Why, oh, why… did they not keep Bones?
Hope Brockers is okay. Get Kiser back in there. And…dammit…can we beat New England, pretty please?
ZooeyModeratori’ll continue to maintain that he’s a 10-15 qb. that’s still very hard to replace. my inclination would be to keep him. you can win a superbowl with him.
get rid of him. and you get the rams from 2007-2015.
I agree with that, and I agree they miss Cooks’ deep threat.
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ZooeyModeratorKurt Warner agrees with me. Surprised he hasn’t retweeted me yet.
ZooeyModeratorThis is the entire difference between the left and everyone else.
The left: Things should be better and it’s possible.
Liberals: Things should be better but it’s not possible.
Conservatives: Things are fine and change is only for the worse. https://t.co/6SCODY20CX
— BJG 👑 (@briebriejoy) December 3, 2020
ZooeyModeratorAmerican taxpayers spend $107,575,000,000 more on police than public housing.
Pass it on.
— Robert Reich (@RBReich) December 2, 2020
ZooeyModeratorWhy not just get a new board?
We’ve been here an eternity.
In the Old Days, we used to get a new board about every 8 months. Gave us something to complain about.
ZooeyModeratorKurt Warner was on NFL Network today and was asked about Goff and his struggles…..he said Goff is a very solid starter in the NFL who has already proven he can be very good, but people got to stop trying to compare him to other QB’s who could carry a team to a Super Bowl….he said there is only a handful of them that could do that throughout the history of the NFL
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I think thats about right.
But I also think he’s been making too many bonehead plays lately.
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vFunny the way a Ring changes everyone’s perception, though. If Goff wins a Super Bowl, everything will change in the way people talk about him.
For that reason, I vote Goff gets a ring this year.
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