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znModeratorMyles Garrett (DE, Browns) | Top 100 Players of 2025
znModeratorStu Jackson@StuJRams
Asked Rams OC Nate Scheelhaase yesterday how his roles and responsibilities evolving over the last two years have changed not only the way he teaches this offense as a coach, but also how he learns it himself.In short, lots of disciplined note-taking, reviewing and studying so he could be prepared to add value. And an appreciation for a great environment conducive to teaching and learning for coaches.
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znModeratorMyles Garrett’s possibilities seem endless
The Rams’ latest splash move is already out on the field and building intrigue as to what he could do here.
Garrett has been with the Rams for one week now following the blockbuster trade that brought him here, which cost the Rams a Pro Bowl edge rusher in Jared Verse as well as a 2027 first-round pick, a 2028 second-round pick and a 2029 third-round pick. He traditionally skips the voluntary portions of the offseason, but he found it was important on a new team to suit up for at least a couple of different practice settings so far.
Garrett participated in individual drills Monday. He sat out team drills — he’s still brand new to the Rams’ scheme — and coach Sean McVay has long taken a precautionary approach this time of year.
Garrett worked with the outside linebackers rather than the defensive line. It’s the same spot Verse played, but it’s a shift from what he has done in his nine-year career. The times he has rushed while standing up have almost exclusively come when lined up over the center on a random blitz.
“We’re still going to have our principles with that stuff, but we’re going to let him do what he does best, and we all know exactly what he does best,” defensive coordinator Chris Shula said. “You’re not going to take Michael Jordan, LeBron (James), all those guys and pull them out of their comfort zone. We’re going to work with him and put him in the best spots that we think for him and the defense to succeed.”
It’s similar to how the Rams have discussed McDuffie. The role he’ll fill most often is at outside cornerback, where the Rams had a major need after the unit fell apart in the playoffs last season. Still, to maximize McDuffie’s value and keep offenses from game-planning against him, Los Angeles plans to move him around between the outside and nickel spots.
McDuffie has played both spots, whereas Garrett has not. There’s no doubt about what Garrett can handle athletically or physically, and the Rams know they need to get creative at times to find playing time and the right matchups for complementary pass rushers such as Kobie Turner, Braden Fiske and Josaiah Stewart.
znModeratorYou know how they say that players belong more in one era than another.
Alaric Jackson is an example.
He would have done much better in an era before they invented the cell phone.
znModeratorI know Davante is a professional, and i dont doubt he ‘took it well’ — but how do you take McVay’s words seriously after that? Would you go to war for a coach that did that?
I dunno.
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vThat is a very mixed bag, that tendency of McVay’s. On the one hand, they dumped decent players to get Ramsey, Stafford, Adams, and Garrett. Turns out the grass actually can be greener. On the other hand, as you say–-he’s a greedy creature of the moment and full-in when he wants a player, and then equally a greedy creature of the moment when he sees something new he wants and unloads players (like Woods and Kupp and almost Adams).
It’s the opposite of Vermeil, who always wanted to keep players around, even when it was guys like Lawrence Phillips.
znModeratorThey cover the Rams at 3:20 in.
znModeratorOffensive line coach Ryan Wendell says Garrett is going to make all of the Rams’ linemen better by having to block him every day in practice.
“I was excited about the opportunity to see him in practice work, because I know how much better it’s going to make our guys to get to block a reigning Defensive Player of the Year – a guy that’s that kind of a premier pass rusher and player every day,” Wendell said on the Bleav in Rams podcast. “It’s only going to make our guys better, so I was excited about that. And then I was, just, for our overall team, I was just beyond elated to think about like how much better that’s going to make every guy that he’s playing with on, you know, all the way from the back end, it’s going to help the guys cover better. It’s going to help the other guys rush better. I mean, he’s a great addition to our team.”
znModeratorSo, has any reporter asked Davante how he feels about the fact the Rams would have traded him for AJ Brown if they could have worked out a trade with a third team for Davante?
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vHe was reportedly quite professional about it.
This is the Rams. Culture, community, belonging and unified purpose starting after the post-season. In the post-season–it’s a cutthroat business first mentality. And letting receivers go seems to be one of their favorite things to do.
znModeratorMore stuff on the history. Each new bit adds a little more.
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The Rams figured they would have competition for Garrett, but multiple Browns sources insist this trade was Rams-specific and no other suitors reached a serious threshold.
There was a dormant period until after the draft, a source said, when the Rams brass gathered and asked, “Are we going to keep talking about this [deal]?” Los Angeles had just drafted quarterback Ty Simpson with the No. 13 pick, choosing to select the player they believe will be able to take over for Stafford when he retires.
While the Rams were thinking about the future there, they were also committed to making another big splash on defense, as they had when they traded for McDuffie, an All-Pro cornerback, in early March.
To fulfill that commitment, the Rams circled back with the Browns on Wednesday, April 29, after the draft. Snead called Berry directly to “see if [sides] could work something out,” per source.
But with Garrett, the answer was no, multiple parties said, until the Rams agreed to include edge rusher Jared Verse in the deal. Parting with Verse, the 2024 NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year, Rams coach Sean McVay said, “was the hardest part of this decision.”
Around mid-May is when the Browns started to believe the Rams might be willing to part with Verse. But even late in the process, the Rams kept offering packages that did not include the Pro Bowler — as one source put it, the Rams “sweetened the pot” with a package featuring more draft capital than the first-, second- and third-rounders Cleveland eventually received.
znModeratorCameron DaSilva@camdasilva
The Rams’ potential deal for AJ Brown fell apart when LA couldn’t work out a trade with another team for Davante Adams, per Albert Breer.LA also had concerns about Brown’s knee.
Brock Vierra@BrockVierra
I was a big proponent of the Rams adding A.J. Brown, but never at the cost of Davante Adams. It can not be understated what Adams means to the maturity of the receiver room.Interesting the Rams were willing make this move after fixing their maturity issue on defense.
QuoteznModeratorSosa Kremenjas@QBsMVP
Myles Garrett cap hits for the Rams the next 3 seasons:$9.1M (this season)
$16M
$21.3MznModeratorMike Levin@MikeLevin
This is really stupid, and it’s not getting enough attention.The Trump administration is pulling a working $368 million ocean monitoring system out of the water, equipment taxpayers already bought, built, and sank into the deep ocean.
And they are doing it right when the oceans are behaving in ways that alarm the scientists who study them.
Record-breaking temperatures.
A system of Atlantic currents that may be lurching toward collapse.
The response?
Yank out the instruments and walk away.
That is not budgeting. That is smashing the gauges while the engine is on fire and calling it efficiency.
For what? The Trump administration dressed it up as a “nimbler approach” and “smart lifecycle management,” which is fancy nonsense for “we shut it off and hoped nobody would ask why.” There is no return-on-investment analysis. They cannot show taxpayers save a dime, because the gear is already paid for and the science it produces protects real money and real lives.
The kicker: the same people killing the monitors want to mine the deep sea for minerals. So they are destroying the only tools that could measure what that mining does. That is not an accident.
That is the point. You cannot see the damage if you break the instruments first.
znModeratorPerhaps he was talkin bout myles: “there’s no stoppin what cant be stopped”
Trent Williams to the 49 offense before game 1 in Australia:
“This is dread, man. Truely dread….Prepare yourself.”
znModeratorThe football gods only allow the Rams to win a ring once every two decades or so.
So, I’m wondering which quarter of the first game, Garrett will be eaten by a Shark, or possibly a salt-water crocodile.
Then again, the Inland Taipan is the deadliest snake in the world. So there’s that.
Also, the Sydney Funnel-Web spider.
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vIt is dark in your world.
znModeratorIt will be very interesting to see how the genius-Shanahan handles Myles Garrett.
Oct 2 — 49ers 26 – Rams 23
Nove 9 – 49ers 26 – Rams 42w
vIn their game last year (11/30 in Cleveland), 49ers led the whole way and won 26-8. In spite of playing from behind all game, Garrett had 1 sack, 2 TFLs, and 3 qb hits. Purdy was pressured on 32.3% of his dropbacks. That’s in spite of throwing just 29 times (for 168 yards). He also had 17.4% bad throws. Of the 9 regular season games he played, Purdy faced a higher pressure rate again Seattle in their 1st game, but no other game had such a high percentage of bad throws.
I posted something somewhere in this thread stating that SF’s legendary LOT Trent Wms. gave up the highest pressure percentage of his entire career going against Garrett that game.
znModeratorEVERY Sack from Myles Garrett’s 23 Sack Season
znModeratorIR, this is all just IMO, but…I think Verse came later. I think the Rams and Browns agreed on a trade in principle, but that it had to wait until June 1 so Cleveland could play the cap right. That’s just a guess. I think they waited on what exactly the compensation would be.
I think as June 1 approached it became clear the Browns were not budging on Verse. (In fact throwing Verse in made it a classic win-win trade.)
Now, I did ask the Rams directly if that is what happened, but they don’t return my calls anymore. So I dunno.
znModeratorThis is a devastating interview.
Scott Pelley tells the NYT that Bari Weiss directly put a “thumb on the scale” for Trump over the killing of Renee Good.
Here’s his explanation of exactly what happened. pic.twitter.com/Kh56P1q7rM
— Niall Stanage (@NiallStanage) June 7, 2026
znModeratorMore on an issue that started in another thread:
Well the timing is important. They are arguing the Rams were sure at the time of the Simpson pick. And they hadnt offered Verse back then, had they?
I dunno, I guess they could have known that they were gonna offer Verse if they had to.
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vI really don’t know, and you you’re probably right about Verse. But something made Jourdan say they were confident before the draft that they would get [Garrett]. Here’s what Rodrigue says in the article she wrote about the trade (it’s posted in the Garrett thread):
“Nothing was officially agreed upon until a few days ago. But by the NFL Draft, the teams’ joint confidence that they’d get the trade done in large part informed the Rams’ surprising pick at No. 13, Alabama quarterback Ty Simpson, multiple team and league sources said.”
The “more” I talked about:
znModerator.@RamsNFL @Browns @JaredVerse1 the Browns are getting a healthy and productive player in Verse who plays this violent game the right way…He can collapse a pocket against the very best OT's. #BaldysBreakdowns pic.twitter.com/4Zu0OrrmvJ
— Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) June 7, 2026
znModeratorznModeratorLooks to me like there’s The Wire. And then, there’s a bunch of ‘pretty ok’ stuff. And then there’s a vast wasteland of shit.
I agree. The Wire is by far the best thing I’ve seen out of all the extended HBO and HBO-style series. “Rome” and “Deadwood” also rank pretty high for me.
There are many reasons to like it so much, but one of them is that it was written by people who worked in and studied that world.
But I also get the sense that unlike me, anyway, you are very rigorous in what you will endorse in terms of genres. For example I find value in kinds of films you apparently don’t. To me, the main thing is always narrative craft, and different genres approach that differently. (I’m not really cinematic per se, I mean I don’t forget that they’re movies and/or extended tv series in the HBO style, but really my thing is narrative.)
I am not trying to talk you into or out of anything, and I am certainly not framing this as “my way is better,” but I am very open in terms of genre, and will get into a wide variety of things, some of which you might not enjoy at all.
I can’t help being invested in narrative the way I am, or enjoying different kinds of narratives in terms of genre. I didn’t “choose” that. I don’t reason my way toward it. It’s just…my “thing.” But it might be, I think, different from your primary investments and interests when it comes to watching and judging stuff.
Don’t get me wrong–I don’t even watch tv. People around me will talk about their favorite series of the year, and I don’t even know what they’re talking about. The way I watch tv is to buy or rent the entire series and binge watch it.
Anyway. It’s interesting that we have what appears to be different interests and tolerances in film and tv narrative, but that we completely agree on The Wire.
znModeratorjust some movie moments — from dumb but likeable, to great
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From “Watchmen.” For those who don’t know, here’s the set up. A rogue superhero ends the threat of pending nuclear world war by faking a scenario in which a godlike figure, Dr. Manhattan, has attacked mankind–thereby giving the US and USSR a common enemy. Dr. Manhattan has complete control over energy and matter, but until this moment has grown apart from mankind. He nevertheless accepts this fabrication, which rests on blaming him for something he did not do. The figure Rorschach, the guy with shifting mask, cannot tolerate the lie. His mantra is to never compromise. He insists on truth first, even if it ends the manipulated peace.
znModeratorfrom MMQB, Matt Verderame: https://www.si.com/nfl/what-we-learned-this-week-nfl-trades-extensions-retirement
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Aaron Donald returning to play with Garrett?
Upon news of the Garrett acquisition, Donald made headlines by not ruling out a potential comeback. Speaking to former NFL punter and ESPN personality Pat McAfee, Donald said it has him thinking about a potential comeback after retiring two seasons ago.
At 35, coming back after missing two years would be rare, but not unheard of. As Albert Breer pointed out, the Rams have seen a similar scenario play out before. In 2021, needing help at safety, Eric Weddle came out of retirement after missing all of ’20 and ’21 before suiting up in the postseason, helping the franchise win its second Super Bowl.
If Donald were to return, he would join the league’s best defensive line that features Kobie Turner inside, along with Byron Young and Garrett on the outside. In 2025, that trio totaled 42 sacks and 82 quarterback hits. For context, the former number would have ranked 12th for entire teams last season. Now imagine adding Donald into the mix as the ultimate wild card.
For the Rams, it would fit what’s one of the biggest all-in pushes of recent memory. After this season, Los Angeles will see a slew of talent hit unrestricted free agency, including receivers Puka Nacua and Davante Adams, tight ends Davis Allen and Colby Parkinson, offensive linemen Kevin Dotson and Steve Avila, and Turner and Young. The Rams will keep some, but certainly not all.
If not now, when? That’s true for Los Angeles. It might also be true of Donald.
znModeratorfrom PFF, Ranking the NFL’s 10 best head coaches entering the 2026 season: https://www.pff.com/news/ranking-the-nfls-10-best-head-coaches-entering-the-2026-season?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=dhtwitter&utm_content=null
[me note: the rest, in order, are Reid, Shanahan, McDonald, Campbell, LaFleur, Ryans, Payton, Vrabel, and Jim Harbaugh. Rams play against those teams, counting division rivals twice, in 8 games.]
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1. Sean McVay, Los Angeles RamsThe poster child for hiring a wunderkind head coach, McVay has established himself as the clear top leader in football. The Rams head man has compiled a 92-57 record over nine seasons at the helm, including two trips to the Super Bowl — and a win coming in 2021.
What makes McVay unparalleled is his ability to blend game-planning with team success. Calling the offensive shots, McVay has propelled Los Angeles to three top-six finishes in EPA per play over the last five years. Most impressively, McVay has displayed an aptitude to evolve — such as going from more of a wide zone scheme to ushering in Matthew Stafford’s gunslinging mentality in 2021 to pioneering more of a 13-personnel approach in 2025.
In McVay’s nine years in LA, the Rams have netted a gaudy seven top-10 finishes in overall PFF grade. Plus, McVay’s coaching tree spans both conferences and continues to sprout despite him being only 40. Now, the league’s best will get to work with another loaded squad — one which just landed Myles Garrett.
znModeratorznModeratorI remember back when the Rams had fucking-super-talented monster OLines. In the 70’s and the 80’s. And they never won it all.
But in 2000 and 2022 when they did win it all, it seemed like they had one great Linemen and the rest were just ‘solid’. Dunno.
It’s unit cohesion too. That’s something that can be coached up, and it’s also something you can lose with multiple injuries.
The GSOT had Pace and Timmerman. Miller went on to play well with the Titans. Gruttadauria/McCollum and Nutten were solid.
I know everyone knows all this but I’m just getting it down in black n white.
I don’t think anyone argues an OL alone wins it for you. You had better have a top qb or a solid qb and an elite defense. But a mediocre and/or injury ravaged OL can derail either one of those 2 options (top qb or a solid qb and an elite defense). We know, we’ve seen it.
A good qb can help an OL be effective, but that’s a mutual synergy. It works the other way too.
A good OL coach can help shape that synergy, by getting the OL to play with awareness, cohesion, and good communication. Which is exactly what this OL is praised for doing. There’s a quotation in here somewhere, I think in one of the endless recent Haverstein vids, where he says an opposing defender told him during the game, I don’t know which of you is good but you guys play well together. Coaching develops that.
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znModeratorBrandon Thorn@BrandonThornNFL
The more OL I study, the more convinced I am that coaching/scheme/environment are the biggest hidden variables in how individual players and full units are perceived.Environment sets the floor. Talent determines the ceiling.
A better ecosystem can stop exposing a player and start maximizing what he already does well. Talent still matters, but OL play is uniquely dependent on whether the conditions around the player are raising the floor or cracking it.
znModeratorfrom Breer: https://www.si.com/nfl/inside-rams-browns-negotiation-myles-garrett-trade
Ahead of the 2022 trade deadline, the Rams were looking for pass-rush help, feeling the loss of 2021 deadline acquisition Von Miller. They’d called the Panthers, and after going way down the road on a Christian McCaffrey trade, before the 49ers landed him, they offered two first-round picks for Brian Burns. They made a similar offer to the Raiders for Maxx Crosby. And they went further with the Browns–a package that topped what they’d traded for Ramsey (two firsts and a fourth) for Garrett.
znModeratorThe MMQB@theMMQB
The Rams were ranked 23rd in @GManzano24’s defensive triplets rankings in 2025. Where do they check in now after acquiring Myles Garrett?***
from https://www.si.com/nfl/ranking-nfl-best-defensive-triplets-every-team-2026
1. Los Angeles Rams
Triplets: Myles Garrett, Nate Landman, Trent McDuffie
This new-look trio hasn’t played a game together yet, but it shouldn’t be difficult to plug in Garrett, perhaps the best player in the league, regardless of position. The challenge here may be getting L.A.’s new stars to play collectively and not just flex their muscles individually, and that’s where Sean McVay and his coaches come in as the right staff to maximize this star-studded roster.
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