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    in reply to: Rams tweets … 9/26 – 9/27 #145700
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    [from link above]

    • DT Aaron Donald: 92.9

    • OLB Byron Young: 85.8

    • LB Ernest Jones: 80.7

    • CB Derion Kendrick: 72.6

    • DT Kobie Turner: 68.2

    Donald was unblockable Monday night, recording seven pressures and five stops. He was by far the Rams’ most effective defender.

    Young also had a good night, generating five pressures and five stops of his own. He seems to be getting better by the week, which is encouraging for a Rams team that’s lacking edge-rusher talent.

    Jones made nine tackles and didn’t miss a single attempt, only allowing two catches on five targets, as well.

    Kendrick was picked on often by the Bengals, but he gave up just two catches on five targets for a total of 19 yards with one pass breakup.

    Turner had three pressures as an interior defender, a good number for the rookie.

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    in reply to: Rams tweets … 9/26 – 9/27 #145698
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    Rams Fans United@RamsFansUnited
    Joe Burrow passer rating: 59.8, they threw the ball almost 70% of the time, 2.9 yards per rush, 4.7 per pass attempt, Rams offense out stated them in most ways, really tough game to lose. Had Rams won, story would be about Bengal’s offense..
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    roberto clemente@rclemente2121
    thru week 3

    pff – pass blocking

    havenstein #55 out of 67 tackles
    jackson #59 out of 67 tackles
    shelton #22 out of 35 centers
    avila #47 out of 76 guards
    noteboom #70 out of 76 guards

    no rams olineman ranks in the top half of the league in oline pass pro according to pff.

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    in reply to: the big articles on the Bengals game #145691
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    Rams-Bengals takeaways: Margin for error is razor-thin for Matthew Stafford, offense

    GARY KLEIN

    https://www.latimes.com/sports/rams/story/2023-09-26/rams-bengals-takeaways

    CINCINNATI — The Rams lost to the Cincinnati Bengals, 19-16, on Monday night at Paycor Stadium.

    Here’s what we learned from the defeat that dropped the Rams’ record to 1-2.

    Let’s qualify this by acknowledging that passes that bounce off a receiver’s hands, helmet or other body parts and into the arms of defenders typically are not Stafford’s fault.

    But the Rams’ margin for error is minuscule. And Stafford is at the controls of the offense.

    The 35-year-old quarterback is still making outstanding throws and has even shown a knack for scrambling.

    But this was the second game in a row that Stafford had two passes intercepted, and the Rams lost both.

    Wait a second. The subhead on last week’s game review read: “The offensive line has protected Stafford.”

    Well, a lot can change in a week, especially with injuries beginning to pile up a la 2022.

    Left tackle Alaric Jackson left the game because of a thigh injury and did not return. Oft-injured right guard Joe Noteboom was out for a time because of a knee issue.

    The Bengals, as expected, took full advantage and finished with six sacks.

    Second-year pro Zachary Thomas played in place of Jackson and performed about as well as could be expected given his experience.

    Now the question is: How will the beat-up line play at Indianapolis in a short week?

    Rams fans certainly enjoyed his record-setting start, and it was fun while it lasted.

    But Nacua’s pace was not sustainable.

    Nacua caught five passes for 72 yards, ending the rookie receiver’s streak of catching more than 10 passes and amassing more than 100 yards receiving.

    Nacua made several tough catches, including one he hauled in with his left hand.

    His longest reception covered 37 yards.

    Jefferson, a fourth-pro, was supposed to be the No. 2 receiver behind Cooper Kupp, and his prominence should have grown in Kupp’s absence.

    Instead, he was the forgotten man.

    While Nacua and Tutu Atwell shined, Jefferson stood out for dropped passes and missed opportunities.

    But against the Bengals, Jefferson caught a 46-yard pass.

    Atwell continued to show his versatility. He caught four passes for 50 yards and a touchdown. He also appeared to score on a 24-yard reverse. But upon review, officials ruled he had stepped out of bounds at the two-yard line.

    Aaron Donald bounced back from a rare no-tackle stat line against the San Francisco 49ers by making seven tackles against the Bengals, including a sack and another tackle behind the line of scrimmage.

    The three-time NFL defensive of the year has 1½ sacks this season, 104½ in his career.

    Edge rusher Byron Young and tackle Kobie Turner shared another sack.

    Ahkello Witherspoon’s fourth-quarter interception of a Joe Burrow pass was the first turnover for the Rams defense this season.

    Unfortunately for the Rams, the offense failed to capitalize.

    Witherspoon, a seventh-year pro who signed a veteran-minimum contract, also broke up a pass.

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    Well they missed Jackson.

    But then…think about what that means, in terms of the Rams finding Jackson. They held SF to 1 sack. Bengals got 6. The Cincy DL may be as good as the SF DL but it’s not better.

    With Jackson the Rams stand a chance. And he was a UDFA. They found a solid starting LOT as a UDFA.

    So, even the darkest hurricanes can contain a silver thread.

    Now…hope he’s back soon.

     

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    Jackson went AWOL

    Another Wounded OL?

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    Cameron DaSilva@camdasilva
    This felt like a game where leaning on Kyren Williams and the running game against a bad run defense would’ve been smart, yet they were in 11 personnel all night and Brycen Hopkins only played 2 snaps. No variety whatsoever.
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    Kyren Williams played every snap last night and has played 131 of 135 the last two weeks. He’s played more snaps than any RB in the NFL and is on pace for 1,043 this year. That’s not sustainable and it might be time for the Rams to adjust
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    Rams Brothers@RamsBrothers
    Leaving points on the table. We should be up 14-3 early in this game. Kyren had one carry on 9-10 plays within the 20 yard line? Didn’t make any sense. Liked the deep shot a ton. But, let’s also remember why our offense had been so tough to stop over the first two weeks.
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    Blaine Grisak@bgrisakTST
    Have seen a narrative that Stafford wasn’t sharp last night. …he also got sacked 6 times and was constantly under duress after Jackson went out. That’s a situation where coach has to help the quarterback and it just didn’t happen
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    The Real Rams Rapp@TheOtherGarth
    This is what I’ll say, the defense played GREAT outside of Chase getting his (expected)… Special teams were fine, and the offense was moving the ball well until the oline got destroyed by injuries…. If Mcavy doesn’t kill us, we can beat anyone and I truly believe that
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    roberto clemente@rclemente2121
    the 19 points the bengals scored was the fewest they’ve scored at home in their last 16 games – the rams defense came to play, and gave the team a chance.
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    rams last 16 drives: 0 tds 5 field goals 6 punts 4 interceptions 1 downs
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    this is the worst combined qb play i’ve seen in a long time… with 7 minutes remaining in the game: stafford has completed just 56% of his passes for 0 tds, 2 int, and 49.9 qb rating. burrow has completed just 53% of his passes for 0 tds, 1 int, and a 59.8 qb rating.
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    Rams Brothers@RamsBrothers
    This Rams team is… still a pretty big question mark. We knew the season would be up and down, but self-inflicted wounds shouldn’t be the reason for a loss. It was a game they should’ve won. But how do they (McVay specifically) avoid repeating mistakes?
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    Blaine Grisak@bgrisakTST
    I expected the Rams to be 1-2 through three weeks. However, there was an opportunity here. Joe Burrow was less than 100%. Chance to go 2-1 and show you were ahead of schedule and a contender in the NFC. Rams beat themselves. That’s what makes it disappointing.
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    Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
    Three goal line pass attempts and a pass called on third-and-1…
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    This is just a year where the smallest defiency will have massive effects. They’re young so not very deep.

    But on this one a lot of it was coaching, I agree with that. As we know, McV can be inexplicably erratic at times.

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    Fishkiller@FV_Mylia_Lynn
    How does McVay continually leave his scrub LT 1 on 1 with no help? Unbelievable!
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    Raheem Morris gets all the heat, but he is doing more with less than McVay is doing with more talent at his disposal.
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    𝕋𝕠𝕞@TL_LARams
    Don’t blame Zach Thomas. There is no way he should have been left on an island against a Pro Bowl DE. Give him help with a TE chip, move Noteboom over, do something to help the guy out. This is on McVay.
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    Ramblin’ Fan@RamblinFan
    Not a great outing for RB Kyren Williams tonight. 0-4 receiving 4 rushes for 11 yards running.
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    RAMS REPORT@RamsNFLReport
    What a sad & boring game. The Rams did not play at all the way that they are capable of, which they showed very well in the first two of the season.
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    Rams Tapes @RamsTapes
    horrible adjustments, tutu was in bounds and that was a touchdown, that INT was clearly not an INT he never maintained possession.. defense fought tonight, Indianapolis colts next week.
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    roberto clemente@rclemente2121
    can kyren catch? he had a lowly 50% (6 of 12) catch rate headed into today’s game, and has caught only 1 of 6 targets tonight. wow.
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    𝚂𝚌𝚘𝚘𝚝 (𝟷-𝟷)@_SC00T
    Stafford has 3 INTs on the season 1 was because of Van Jefferson creating no separation 1 was because of Kyren Williams tipping it to the defense 1 was dropped by the DB but they let it stand
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    Rams Brothers@RamsBrothers
    If this game feels like a f*cking rollercoaster, it’s because it is. The offense has no rhythm. It’s pass first, run third. Losing Alaric Jackson was a true dagger. Frustrating night, for sure
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    We stink. There is a chance of a long losing streak that can happen

    I don’t share your pessimism Jack. And they may lose a couple of the next few, but, this team is still better than anyone predicted, and IMO it will show in the long run.

    So anyway that’s 2 different views, fwiw. Not arguing so I’m done…we just have 2 different views.

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    2 things.

    First, the offense started to struggle when Jackson went out.

    Second, early, when they were moving the ball, they settled for FGs in the redzone because IMO they weren’t running the ball in the RZ. So Rams dropped from being 2nd in the league in touchdown percentage in the RZ

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    Evolving theory behind Rams run game apparent, now execution must come next

    Jourdan Rodrigue

    https://theathletic.com/4890354/2023/09/25/los-angeles-rams-run-game-evolving/?source=emp_shared_article

    THOUSAND OAKS, Calif. — Every day, pro scouts John McKay and Matt Waugh — and sometimes general manager Les Snead — lean on large wooden plyo boxes stacked outside of the weight room and study the offensive line during the individual drills portion of Los Angeles Rams practice.

    Those drills look different this year — and the three front office members who helped retool an offensive line that now features more size (especially on the interior) watch them for good reason: The 2023 Rams are deploying a higher frequency of gap-style concepts in their run game alongside their mid- and outside-zone concepts.

    That run game has not quite fully taken off just yet. The Rams rank No. 23 in the NFL in total yards with 181 and No. 28 in yards per carry with 2.9; however they also rank No. 5 in EPA/rush (0.05) and No. 6 in successful play rate per rush attempt (44.1 percent), according to TruMedia. They also changed their personnel last week by trading veteran running back Cam Akers to Minnesota, clearing the way for Kyren Williams to take over as their No. 1 back.

    Even as the details come together, the idea behind what they’re trying to accomplish is clear: An increase in usage of those gap/man and power run concepts, lends a brand of physicality and dimension to their run game – and their offense overall – that they have not had in a while.

    “When you do get to those gap schemes, you do get a little bit more downhill physicality out of it — rather than what we’ve primarily been in the past, of a wide-zone/mid-zone team where it’s stretch-and-cut, stretch-and-cut,” right tackle Rob Havenstein said. “We still obviously do a lot of that, but it’s definitely good flavor especially with some of the size that we have up front.”

    Bengals coach Zac Taylor, who worked directly under Rams coach Sean McVay as his quarterbacks coach in 2018, indicated when speaking to Los Angeles beat writers this week that he’s noticed a once-gradual schematic shift pick up in frequency.

    “They majored in the wide zone (with) Rodger (Saffold) and (Andrew Whitworth) … it was a lot of wide zone to the left,” Taylor said. “But we always had everything, always had the tosses, the jet sweeps, the counters, the complementary stuff. I think you’ve just seen more of that in the last two years or so, majoring more in that and less in the wide zone.”

    Along with overhauling a lineup that now features, from left to right, Alaric Jackson, Steve Avila, Coleman Shelton, Joe Noteboom and Havenstein, the Rams hired offensive line coach Ryan Wendell this spring – a former longtime Patriots center who played under famed position coach Dante Scarnecchia. Then, they added veteran gap scheme aficionado Mike Munchak to their staff as a consultant in training camp and his role has carried into the regular season. Wendell is soft-spoken (a contrast to his imposing appearance and wild mane of hair/beard combination he keeps tamed under a bucket hat every day) but extremely meticulous in his coaching.

    “I think one of the things that really stuck out to me with him in his interview process and getting to know him is he’s not trying to coach the right guard the same way as the left guard,” offensive coordinator Mike LaFleur said. “Yes, there has to be unison in what you’re trying to get done, but he’s very in tune to different body types and how people move and that’s a sign of a good coach. He’s very individualized, but yet how can it all piece together to make sure that those five work in cohesion?”

    As spring meetings began this offseason, McVay addressed the team on the topic of the run game: they would be a physical, tenacious group. They could change the offensive line all they wanted, but he promised them that toughness would also come from him via their adjusted scheme – inclusive to the running backs and tight ends, too.

    Nick Caley is the Rams’ new tight ends coach after a long stint in New England. He happily admits he drives to work at 5:30 a.m. each morning with the windows down and Dave Matthews Band blasting from the speakers — but when practices begin his personality shifts a little more to the “death metal” side of the musical spectrum. Caley and his players are vocal, physical and fired up.

    “It’s like he drinks seven Celsius (energy drinks) from leaving his house to getting to the facility,” said veteran tight end Tyler Higbee. “He’s just got juice, always. Always, always, always.”

    Caley’s energy matches the excitement of his group, who, led by Higbee, are involved in the run game in slightly different ways than in previous years. Higbee is on the front side of more blocking assignments, for example. On several plays over the last couple of weeks, Higbee has had a running start across the formation to crash a block into an opponent (usually picking up more than one player in the process), instead of just acquiring/absorbing blocks like he used to on the back side of the play.

    “Tyler’s a psycho,” Havenstein said. “He’s a guy who loves that contact — especially when you get to game day, you see a different side of Tyler. For him to go out there and fly around, now he’s doing a lot of stuff where he’s on the front side of things. In the past, he’d be on the back side taking those shots. But now, it’s getting him movement.”

    The “movement” Havenstein was referring to manifests in anything from an escort motion, a “sift” block, or even a power run play some teams call “blast” (it just depends on the concept in which it’s deployed, and whether it’s actually intended to disguise a play or block for a play). The result is many different types of run plays and concepts that can all come out of what looks like a basic pre-snap tight end alignment, similar to the philosophy the Rams have always used in their passing game under McVay.

    “It’s all about the ‘illusion of complexity,’ to where we can move things around, make it all look the same,” Higbee said. “Just being able to do that, and getting us into different spots, I think it has helped as you’ve seen in the first couple of weeks.”

    Meanwhile, No. 2 running back Ronnie Rivers said with a loud laugh, new position coach Ron Gould keeps a “size 10 up their butts.”

    Gould, he explained, is supportive and positive — albeit demanding. He was a running backs coach in the collegiate ranks for over two decades.

    “He’s a great coach, great guy,” Rivers said. “It’s been a real blessing to have him in the room.”

    Under Gould and the Rams’ offensive coaches, Williams and Rivers seemed to particularly take to the increase in gap/man concepts in practices over the last couple of weeks, as the team fully installed its “game plan” runs ahead of the Week 1 matchup against Seattle. In training camp, these concepts are mostly theory and reps on air because players can’t truly block or hit (and practices are open to observers). In closed joint practices, and then the two weeks leading into the season opener (also closed), theory turned into reality.

    “For me, it really challenges you to be a true running back. It challenges you to have patience, have vision and keep your shoulders square to the line. I love that. I love to be able to set people up,” Williams said. “I love those gap schemes, because it’s a whole lot of (blocking) movement – but if you understand it, it makes it a lot easier and makes it clearer when the holes are supposed to hit and where you’re supposed to go.”

    The tenacity from the linemen, running backs and tight ends is shared by the receivers under longtime position coach Eric Yarber. Rams receivers have traditionally been extremely involved in the run game as blockers, but had been missing a blocking partner for Cooper Kupp like they used to have in veteran star Robert Woods. The coaching staff began assigning rookie receiver Puka Nacua — a willing, albeit inexperienced blocker — some of the concepts previously deployed for Woods.

    “They ask more of the receivers than most teams do in the run game,” said Taylor, who also worked under Yarber as the Rams’ assistant receivers coach in 2017. “‘Yarbs’ is the man for a reason, he gets it out of those guys and they understand the expectation and he gets them committed to blocking in the run game.

    “Not many times you see a guy fly motion and lead up in the C-gap full-speed to go block a safety in the run game, but those guys don’t bat an eye.”

    The changes the Rams have made to their run game, from the coaching at multiple positions, to the scheme, to the effort from players, is becoming a fundamental part of this team’s personality in 2023.

    “The way that they play, the way that they compete, the way that they support one another, the way that they continue to strain and strain just a little bit more, that’s powerful,” McVay said.

    Next, the Rams hope, comes consistent production.

    “We’re still waiting on that breakout (game),” Havenstein said, “the belief is there. Guys have bought in. Not to get sentimental, but that’s one thing I love about this team. Whether we’re too young to know any different, or guys have just bought in because they’ve seen the work in training camp, we’re coming out there and putting our best foot forward.”

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    Dianna Russini@DMRussini
    QB Joe Burrow is going through a workout this morning. I’m told there’s optimism he will play and his status for tonight is trending in the right direction, per sources.  Burrow is campaigning with the coaching staff and trainers to play, however his status is still uncertain.
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    Is that glitch fixed, or is this just your magic admin powers?

    Just admin stuff.

    (Though for long articles I often copy them first to a word processor before bringing them here…it just cleans up the document. The anti-spam safeguards here are twitchy.)

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    Benjamin Solak@BenjaminSolak
    Justin Herbert ends the day completing 40 of 47 passes — that’s 85%. That’s the best single-game completion percentage for any quarterback with at least 45 pass attempts in league history.
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    Ross Tucker@RossTuckerNFL
    Cowboys #1 in my @RossTuckerPod Power Rankings. Cardinals #29
    Any. Given. Sunday.
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    CBS, ESPN, & NFL Network said the 1955 Rams had 735 total yards, meaning the Dolphins are 2nd.

    Good catch, Jack. You’re right.

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    Adam Schefter@AdamSchefter
    Most yards in a game in NFL history:

    1951 Rams 735 vs. Yanks
    2023 Dolphins 726 vs Denver
    1958 Steelers 683 vs Cards

    Most points in a game in NFL history:
    1940 Bears 73 vs Washington
    1966 Wash 72 vs Giants
    2023 Dolphins 70 vs Denver

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    Sorry, on my phone and I can’t do this right.

    Fixt it!

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    I hated that uniform change when it came out. I still prefer the blue and whites, but I would take that 50-year old uniform over anything they’ve worn in the past 20 years.

    I prefer the blue and whites as well. But where the Rams really screwed up was with the helmet change. The horns were truncated beyond redemption. Should have led to a revolution a la 1848/1871/1968. Should just be flat out against the law, along with shaky cams and TV shows that preach bootstrapping mythologies. And shrinking “half gallon” ice cream containers, etc.

     

    Lots goin on with the Rams BT, I would like to hear more from you about all of it!

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