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znModerator10 Observations from Rams’ first joint practice with Broncos: Cooper Kupp and Derion Kendrick in action, Logan Bruss back practicing, and more
Stu Jackson
https://www.therams.com/news/10-observations-first-joint-practice-broncos-cooper-kupp-logan-bruss
ENGLEWOOD, Colo. – The Rams were at the Broncos’ training facility Wednesday for the first of two joint practices this week, a session highlighted by wide receiver Cooper Kupp and defensive back Derion Kendrick participating, offensive lineman Logan Bruss being able to practice, defensive back Quentin Lake continuing to make plays, and more.
Here are 10 things that stood out from it:
1) Kupp and Kendrick, as expected: As Rams head coach Sean McVay said would be the case, Kupp and Kendrick were out there Wednesday for Day 1 of joint practices with the Broncos. The pair first returned to practice Monday.
“I thought Coop looked great,” Rams quarterback Matthew Stafford said after practice. “Just happy to see him running around, smiling, having fun playing ball again.”
2) Bruss practices: Considered day-to-day with a lateral ankle sprain sustained last Saturday against the Raiders, Bruss was able to get some snaps in on Wednesday, “which was important,” according to Rams head coach Sean McVay.
3) Precautionary approach with Noteboom, Havenstein, Witherspoon: McVay said offensive lineman Joe Noteboom (undisclosed) was limited to some individual drills Wednesday, but that they’ll continue to be smart and err on the side of caution with him.
McVay said the Rams also took a precautionary approach by not having offensive lineman Rob Havenstein and defensive back Ahkello Witherspoon (groin) practice Wednesday.
4) Kupp catch: One of Kupp’s best catches of the day was a sliding one over the middle on a pass from Stafford during 11-on-11. Kupp going against Broncos cornerback Patrick Surtain II throughout the morning was fun to watch.
5) Threading the needle: Stafford had one player where he fit the ball through the vertically-stretched arms of Broncos outside linebacker Jonathan Cooper – as cooper was bringing pressure – for a completion to wide receiver Puka Nacua. Stafford also had an impressive intermediate touchdown pass to Higbee in 11-on-11 work in which he fit the ball through a tight window for the score.
6) Another impressive touchdown throw: Stafford toward the end of practice connected with Nacua for a touchdown during a 2-minute drill that drew cheers from the Rams offense.
7) Play-making Lake: In what has been a theme throughout training camp, Lake was active again in Wednesday’s joint practice. During 11-on-11 work, he had a nice pass breakup on a Wilson pass over the middle intended for tight end Adam Trautman.
8) Scoot says no: Defensive back Robert Rochell had a well-timed pass breakup during 11-on-11 on an attempted short touchdown pass by Broncos quarterback Russell Wilson intended for wide receiver Marvin Mims Jr.
9) More pressures and pass breakups: Outside linebacker Michael Hoecht’s pressure and subsequent batting down near the pocket of one of Wilson’s passes was one of the highlights of the day.
Rookie outside linebacker Nick Hampton also had a couple nice pressures on Broncos reserve quarterback Jarrett Stidham on back-to-back plays. While Stidham still completed the pass in the face of the second pressure, it forced him to get the ball out quickly.
10) Lots of special teams work: Both teams were able to get a good amount of special teams work in. McVay said the special teams periods were “clean,” and that’s “exactly what we wanted.”
znModeratorEmails reveal Secret Service contacts with Oath Keepers
By Jordan Libowitz and Sara Wiatrak
Internal Secret Service emails obtained by CREW show special agents in close communication with Oath Keepers leader Stewart Rhodes, while failing to acknowledge the group’s ties to white nationalists and clashes with law enforcement.
In September 2020, a Secret Service agent sent an email to others within the agency, informing them that he had just spoken to Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes about an upcoming visit by then-President Trump to Fayetteville, NC. The agent, who referred to himself as “the unofficial liaison to the Oath Keepers (inching towards official),” described the group as “primarily retired law enforcement/former military members who are very pro-LEO [law enforcement officer] and Pro Trump. Their stated purpose is to provide protection and medical attention to Trump supporters if they come under attack by leftist groups.” He went on to say that Rhodes, “had specific questions and wanted to liaison [sic] with our personnel” and shared Rhodes’s cell phone number.

The emails obtained by CREW as part of an ongoing public records request offer only a snapshot of the communication between the Oath Keepers and the Secret Service. As they focus solely on the time period around the Fayetteville event, the extent of the contact Stewart Rhodes had with the agency remains unknown. The agent “inching towards” being the “official” liaison for Oath Keepers suggests a more longstanding relationship with Rhodes.Another Secret Service agent spoke to Rhodes and informed the other agents that “their desire is to assist those attending the event make it to and from their cars safely. They are NOT there to demonstrate or push a political agenda.” In October 2022, a former member of the Oath Keepers testified that Rhodes had spoken to the Secret Service to coordinate around the rally, but an agency spokesman told CNN that, “The US Secret Service doesn’t have enough information to say whether or not this call actually took place.” These emails show that it did.

When one agent requested intelligence about the Oath Keepers another responded: “General searches revealed news articles that touched on the background of the founder Stewart Rhodes and the group. Rhodes has denounced White Nationalists ideals while sharing his dislike for ANTIFA…The group claims it is a local community response team for natural or civil disorders.” Agents also noted that a Facebook account associated with the group “contained pro-gun content, commentary on racism in the US, and news articles about politics,” but failed to find anything else.
There was plenty of other publicly available information about Rhodes and the Oath Keepers at the time that should have easily raised alarm.In 2014, Oath Keepers traveled to Ferguson, Missouri with assault rifles claiming they were providing security for businesses in the area after the grand jury decision not to indict the white police officer who killed Michael Brown. The St. Louis County Police Department had to demand that the Oath Keepers stop patrolling the city, explaining in a statement that members were walking on rooftops of businesses holding semi-automatic rifles, breaking the county’s ordinance regulating security officers and guards. The police reportedly threatened arrest, and the Oath Keepers began protesting the authorities.
On the one-year anniversary of Michael Brown’s shooting, Oath Keepers again arrived in Ferguson with assault rifles and flak jackets, apparently intending to “protect” businesses and right-wing journalists, including an employee from InfoWars. St. Louis County Police Chief Jon Belmar called their presence “both unnecessary and inflammatory.” This was also covered extensively by national media.
The group has also compared Hillary Clinton to Hitler on its website, and on May 5, 2015, Rhodes was recorded saying that then-Sen. John McCain should be tried for treason, convicted and “hung by the neck until dead.” A long list of former Oath Keepers allegedly cut ties with the group by 2017, citing concerns with Rhodes’s leadership.
Rhodes’s conduct outside of the Oath Keepers had also repeatedly come into question. In October 2015, the Montana Supreme Court’s Office of Disciplinary Counsel recommended that Rhodes be disbarred for violating his attorney oath following a number of ethics and conduct complaints against him, joining Arizona, which admonished Rhodes in 2012 for practicing without a license.
While the nearly all-white Oath Keepers themselves are purportedly not a white nationalist organization, and Rhodes may have “denounced” white nationalist ideals, Oath Keepers have repeatedly worked alongside white supremacist and white nationalist groups. In 2016, as neo-Nazi and white supremacist groups such as the National Socialist Movement, factions of the Ku Klux Klan and the American Freedom Party deployed members at polling sites, the Oath Keepers advised its members to do the same undercover. The Washington Post reported in 2017 that white supremacists in the alt-right scene “seem to have a lot in common with the Oath Keepers,” but that the Oath Keepers were not as racist or radical as certain far-right white nationalists would “prefer.” The Oath Keepers have repeatedly been highlighted in national articles as part of the landscape of white supremacist militias, and are often tied to their public ally the Proud Boys, a group that has been categorized as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center. The Proud Boys similarly are allied with the American Guard, a white nationalist group according to SPLC.
Rhodes is now best known for his role in organizing significant turnout of insurrectionists at the Capitol on January 6, 2021, just a few months after he was in contact with the Secret Service. Rhodes and other Oath Keepers planned to participate in violence at the Capitol—against Secret Service protectees, no less—and he gave followers instructions like “stay fully armed” and “get ready to fight” leading up to the attack.
In November 2022, Rhodes was convicted of seditious conspiracy by a jury for his role in the attempt to keep Donald Trump in power, and was sentenced to 18 years in prison in May—the longest of any convicted January 6th defendant so far. U.S. District Judge Amit Mehta found that Rhodes’s role in January 6th amounted to terrorism and said that he presents “an ongoing threat and peril to this country.”
znModeratorKurt Warner, Eric Dickerson and Isaac Bruce dominate the list. https://t.co/ipB30tkTmz
— Rams Wire (@TheRamsWire) August 23, 2023
znModeratorThis seems like a decent thread for this point. Below are the Rams 5th-7th round picks. I highlight the ones who are getting anywhere from good to very good buzz (way beyond normal hype). It’s still early obviously and yet, not bad at this point for 5th-7th round picks!
2023 5 Warren McClendon
2023 5 Davis Allen
2023 5 Puka Nacua
2023 6 Tre’Vius Hodges-Tomlinson
2023 6 Ochaun Mathis
2023 6 Zach Evans
2023 7 Ethan Evans
2023 7 Jason Taylor
2023 7 Desjuan Johnson..
Some comments:
RAMS ON FILM@RamsOnFilm
@TreTomlinson seems to be already paving his own path into the league. The rookie has had a impressive camp and preseason thus far.Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
Kicking coach Jimmy Rafter is in the crowd today timing punts (and teaching me a lot). He calls what Ethan Evans is doing to the ball right now “superhero type stuff”.
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Cameron DaSilva@camdasilva
Only one punter in the NFL has a higher PFF grade than Rams rookie Ethan Evans this preseason: Corey Bojorquez Evans has hit some booming punts and while the hangtime could be better, the kid has some serious powerLos Angeles Rams@RamsNFL
Eight targets. Eight catches. @davisallen17 had himself a day.
znModeratorOpening drive of the 2004 Monday Night Football matchup between the Rams and Eagles saw the Rams keep the ball on the ground the entire series.
10 runs between @sj39 and @marshallfaulk saw to 7 points from the rookie #39 pic.twitter.com/u8yZEvBV8F
— RAMS ON FILM (@RamsOnFilm) August 23, 2023
znModeratorJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigueUnofficial record-keeping here but Quentin Lake 100% leading the Rams in PBUs this last month, whether at safety or dime LB..Ahkello Witherspoon DNP (groin, precaution) Hunter Long still DNP McVay hoping he can get back on the field before Sept 12. Havenstein DNP precaution for neck. Noteboom only did individuals..Kicking coach Jimmy Rafter is in the crowd today timing punts (and teaching me a lot). He calls what Ethan Evans is doing to the ball right now “superhero type stuff”..Cameron DaSilva@camdasilvaOnly one punter in the NFL has a higher PFF grade than Rams rookie Ethan Evans this preseason: Corey Bojorquez Evans has hit some booming punts and while the hangtime could be better, the kid has some serious power.Andrew Siciliano@AndrewSicilianoSean McVay: “I was really pleased with the overall etiquete of the practice.” Stafford added that Broncos defensive lineman didn’t get too close, and were almost apologetic when they did. Smooth, efficient day 1 of joint practice..Stu Jackson@StuJRamsSean McVay said OL Joe Noteboom got some work in during individual drills in today’s joint practice with Broncos, but they’ll continue to be smart and err on the side of caution with him. OL Rob Havenstein not practicing was also team erring on side of caution, per McVay..James Palmer@JamesPalmerTVWe are done with day one of #broncos and #rams joint practice. One small scuffle early, but overall a competitive productive day. Overall opinion, LA won the day.A few notes on #broncos and #rams joint practice:
– Stafford was locked in from start to finish. Including a fade to the corner for a TD in 2-min to end practice.
– Cooper Kupp vs Patrick Surtain was fun to watch. Kupp had a great day overall. Still one of the very best in the league. Lined up everywhere and caught a bunch of balls.
– Broncos WRs struggled with drops. Payton said after practice, you’re paid to catch passes. Pretty simple.
– TE Albert O has had some solid practices of late. Flashed today with the 2nd team offense on several occasions.
znModeratorNephew of the great LaDainian Tomlinson, @TreTomlinson seems to be already paving his own path into the league. The rookie has had a impressive camp and preseason thus far.
Here he matches up with veteran speedster Phillip Dorsett and is able to deny a big gain pic.twitter.com/InpP1vgsWI
— RAMS ON FILM (@RamsOnFilm) August 23, 2023
znModeratorYou can’t teach some of the effort and reaction to free defenders that you see from Ronnie Rivers this preseason. This kid wants a spot! Impressed. pic.twitter.com/MvgtDwZxc2
— RAMS ON FILM (@RamsOnFilm) August 23, 2023
znModeratorCameron DaSilva@camdasilva
The Rams’ pass-rush numbers have been terrible this preseason, getting very little production from their outside linebackers.
The Rams have one (1) edge rusher with more than one pressure this preseason: Keir Thomas (5)
In fact, only two other edge rushers have a single pressure: Daniel Hardy and Nick Hampton, who have one each
Earnest Brown IV and Jonah Williams each have two pressures. Bobby Brown, Desjuan Johnson, Tanner Ingle, Kobie Turner, Larrell Murchison and Marquise Copeland all have one each.
None from Byron Young (9 pass-rush snaps) or Michael Heocht (16 pass-rush snaps).
znModeratorEight targets. Eight catches. @davisallen17 had himself a day. 😤 pic.twitter.com/1X4jF0eFpv
— Los Angeles Rams (@RamsNFL) August 22, 2023
August 22, 2023 at 3:18 pm in reply to: the 2023 OL thread (w/ definitive article posted on 5/30) #144990
znModeratorCameron DaSilva@camdasilvaThe Rams have 3 linemen in the top 20 for pass-blocking grades, according to PFF: Anchrum, Avila and Miller. None of the three has allowed a single pressure this preseason
znModeratorRams Brothers@RamsBrothersCannot see how Hunter Long makes the roster with what Davis Allen did over the weekend. Matt LaFleur just mentioned in a presser that he has a legitimate “edge” to him and it’s been really nice to see him back out there. Hopefully, an eventual 1:1 replacement to Tyler Higbee..Cornell@gqscholarThey kept 4 in 2020, and Lafleur likes double TE sets. Now, with Long being injured, Rams can IR him early this season and safely keep him on the roster..Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigueDerion Kendrick very, very excited to be back at practice as he slaps hands with teammates ahead of 11/11. He’s been energetic on the sidelines while out with the hamstring and now back in the mix. Today shaping up to be a very competitive session feeling energy all around..Stu Jackson@StuJRamsRams WR Cooper Kupp and DB Derion Kendrick both back at practice, as well as OL Joe Noteboom and OL Rob Havenstein. No sign of OL Logan Bruss, whom McVay said is day-to-day with a lateral ankle sprain.
znModeratorYou guys know, I’ve been a fan since late in 1968. First full season as ram fan was 69. So, I’ve had… two good years. Two rings. In over 50 years. Ah well. w v
That’s not the way to look at it.
You’re suppsed to say, and in another 50 years they could have 2 more!
znModeratorFull Final 2 minutes of INSANE Rams vs Buccaneers NFC Divisional Game
August 21, 2023 at 4:59 pm in reply to: the 2023 OL thread (w/ definitive article posted on 5/30) #144984
znModerator#PunishJumpers (Steve Avila) pic.twitter.com/lpHrIeqpye
— Brandon Thorn (@BrandonThornNFL) August 14, 2023
August 21, 2023 at 4:52 pm in reply to: the 2023 OL thread (w/ definitive article posted on 5/30) #144983
znModeratorWorth mentioning five #Rams OL finished with an 84 or better pass protection grade:
Zach Thomas
AJ Arcuri
Tremayne Anchrum Jr.
Steve Avila
Grant Miller pic.twitter.com/BEgK8h6ncb— JAKE ELLENBOGEN (@JKBOGEN) August 20, 2023
znModeratorOn Ronnie Rivers. Since he stood out Saturday.
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Lance ZierleinNFL AnalystOverviewAn undersized back with three-down ability, Rivers is reliable and incredibly consistent. He runs with wiggle and does a nice job of finding efficient rush tracks early in the carry. However, his lack of size and leg drive could limit his success as an inside runner, while the lack of high-end burst could make him an average outside runner. Rivers won’t stand out in any particular area, but the sum of his parts gives him a shot to become a backup.Strengths- Low center of gravity runner with a balanced base.
- Able to readjust rush track versus early penetration in the backfield.
- Sinks hips and makes wide jump-cuts around trouble.
- Finds acceleration quickly after changing direction.
- Capable worker in a crowded box.
- Rarely allows feet to stagnate.
- Lacks size but not toughness in pass protection.
- Makes the first man miss after the catch.
Weaknesses- Below-average size and frame.
- Inconsistent manipulation of linebackers.
- A shade indecisive when he’s missing a clear point of entry.
- Below-average leg drive by NFL standards.
- Missing a getaway gear and gets walked down by tacklers.
- Smallish, short-armed target as a pass-catcher.
znModerator.@lilronnie_20 casually carrying six grown men on his back for the extra yards. 😤 pic.twitter.com/orsu0UT4Am
— Los Angeles Rams (@RamsNFL) August 20, 2023
znModeratorFrom McVay's media avail today…McVay is seeing 5-6 WR for the game day active roster.
Our projection:
Cooper Kupp🔒
Van Jefferson 🔒
TuTu Atwell 🔒
Puka Nucua 🔒Ben Skowronek 🤔
DeMarcus Robinson🤔
Tyler Johnson 🤔
Xavier Smith 😬
Lance McCutcheon 😬— East Coast Rams Pod (@EastCoastRams) August 21, 2023
znModeratorAt this point, there isn't much more Aidan O'Connell can do to win the backup job.
Against the Rams, he showed off a bunch of traits that are important to have in Josh McDaniels' offense. pic.twitter.com/F0uwuIzPYV
— Ted Nguyen (@FB_FilmAnalysis) August 20, 2023
August 20, 2023 at 9:04 pm in reply to: the 2023 OL thread (w/ definitive article posted on 5/30) #144975
znModeratori’m starting to feel good about this oline. jackson has been a revelation. just very glad to hear he grabbed that spot early in training camp. i believe this will be his first season coming out of training camp as the starting left tackle? his third year total. just hope he can stay healthy. also love avila’s tude. i think the oline could surprise.
+1
If Jackson is a solid LOT, that’s an incredible coup. Finding an LOT as a UDFA. Not a high pick, not a big trade, not a high market FA signing. LOTs are as hard to find as qbs. In fact the Rams have had notorious bad luck with high picks at LOT (excluding Pace). St. Clair, Barron, Smith, Robinson. So if Jackson turns out fine, this is a big deal.
August 20, 2023 at 8:20 pm in reply to: the 2023 OL thread (w/ definitive article posted on 5/30) #144971
znModeratorSteve Avila will be an Anchor at LG for the Rams for the next decade. https://t.co/xdDTL1wsGn
— Allen Sales (@AllenSales) August 20, 2023
August 20, 2023 at 8:12 pm in reply to: the 2023 OL thread (w/ definitive article posted on 5/30) #144970
znModeratorJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigueSean McVay still not disclosing details on what Joe Noteboom is dealing with but does say that what the team has indicated is an injury is not related to the Achilles from last year. He isn’t sure if Noteboom will practice next week..Stu Jackson@StuJRamsSean McVay said OL Logan Bruss sustained a lateral ankle sprain against the Raiders last night, and they’re taking things a day at a time with him..Blaine Grisak @bgrisakTSTI will say on the OL, Alaric Jackson has looked VERY solid at LT. Limited action, but was good against the Raiders. I know Rams paid Joe Noteboom, but Tremayne Anchrum needs to be the RG. 0 pressures in 67 snaps at RG..Rams OL PFF Grades against Raiders:
1. Alaric Jackson (79 PBLK, 72.6 RBLK)
2. AJ Arcuri (85, 68.5)
3. Grant Miller (84, 62.5)
4. Tremayne Anchrum (84, 52.5)
5. Zach Thomas (85.6, 41.2)
6. Logan Bruss (50.5, 47)
7. Steven Avila (84, 41.4)
8. Warren McClendon Jr. (28.1, 51.4).Rams Brothers@RamsBrothers
Big Whit suggested that Joe Noteboom is slated to be the starter at RG for week 1. Potential lineup:
• Alaric Jackson (LT)
• Steve Avila (LG)
• Allen/Shelton (C)
• Joe Noteboom (RG)
• Rob Havenstein (RT)McClendon seems to be top option at tackle in case of emergency.
znModeratori’m really rooting for this guy. probably never be a superstar but can do all the grunt work.
Blaine Grisak @bgrisakTSTDavis Allen was targeted 8 times yesterday and caught all 8 targets. Had two contested catches. That was something he was good at in college at Clemson – went 11/12 last year which led the NCAA.
znModeratorRodrigue: 5 things I think after the Rams’ Week 2 preseason game vs. Raiders
Jourdan Rodrigue
INGLEWOOD, Calif. — The Los Angeles Rams dropped their second consecutive preseason game, this time 34-17 to the Las Vegas Raiders.
While I’m still not jumping to full conclusions in the preseason (the preseason), I’m a lot closer to strong hypotheses about certain position groups (cough, the defensive line, cough) and seeing growth in others.
Five developing thoughts from Saturday:
1. We knew this defense could face these types of growing pains. Are fans ready for the ride?
In writing since February about the Rams’ intention to overhaul just one side of their roster, in this case the defense — for the sake of a team that both wanted to keep the majority of its offense intact and clean up its future salary cap in the process — it was easy to forget about one thing: What it could actually look like in action.
There’s no sugar-coating it, this is simply a group that is going to have a lot of bumps as the younger players grow, and progress won’t be linear. I’ll use the first half specifically as an example, because few players in Saturday night’s second half will actually contribute in the regular season barring some sort of injury fiasco.
So, about that first-half group: The defensive line is still a major concern, certainly on passing downs but most glaringly against the run. The Raiders ended the first quarter with eight first downs, half of which were on run plays, and averaged 5.8 yards per carry on their first drive alone. They capped that drive, which featured five all-too-easy runs, with a 7-yard touchdown. The Rams even had inside linebacker Christian Rozeboom, who is the No. 2 on this team, jumping into gaps on run plays and even play-action looks to try to see what works for their defensive line or even helps it, while third-string inside linebacker Jake Hummel often manned the second level. The Rams play a lot of single-linebacker looks in their regular-season defense, so this seemed to be a clear effort to help against the run.
Last week, head coach Sean McVay said that technical work within their gap-and-a-half scheme, such as hand placement and general spatial execution, were the culprits for a porous run defense and that those things are correctible. He said again Saturday night, what he’s most concerned with is whether he can see players take steps in “the right direction.”
So I asked him: Could he?
“I gotta be able to look at the film, to be able to answer that,” he said.
Whiplash to the good stuff: the Rams’ defense tightened up at the end of the first quarter and into the second. Rookie cornerback Tre Tomlinson, who started the game, had an impressive pass breakup deep downfield against receiver Phillip Dorsett II and cornerback Robert Rochell broke up the third-down pass that followed.
Whiplash to the bad stuff: Tomlinson got flagged for an illegal block while trying to cut off a run play. That sent the Raiders, who already had great field position because of a 31-yard punt return, down the field even further.
Whiplash to the good stuff: The Rams got a coverage sack (Keir Thomas) that helped hold the Raiders to a field goal. Hummel got a pick-six. Defensive lineman Jonah Williams batted a pass that helped the Rams force a turnover on downs. Whiplash to the bad stuff: Their two-minute defense was full of coverage holes and quarterback Brian Hoyer had a ton of time on some of his throws.
You get the idea. As it pertains to their defensive line, specifically, the Rams should keep a close eye on other teams’ cutdowns over the next couple of weeks. It’s OK to be learning and growing, but they won’t have a chance against some of the teams they’ll face over the first part of the season if they keep getting carved up on the ground like this. The Rams believe their offense will keep them competitive in many games, but that won’t matter if a team can so easily go ball-control on them with a decent run game and play keep-away from quarterback Matthew Stafford.
2. Davis Allen has a heck of a debut
Allen, the rookie tight end who the Rams drafted in the fifth round this spring, missed the entirety of training camp with a hamstring issue. Allen just started practicing this week, and was thrown into the mix Saturday night. He absolutely impressed: Allen caught all eight of his targets for 53 yards.
The best of these was a tough 7-yard catch-and-run in the red zone, where it took multiple Raiders defenders to bring Allen to the ground. Allen was plenty tired at that point, after just a few days back on the field, but showed his potential as a yards-after-catch contributor in a high-stakes part of the field.
“Growin’ up as a kid, my dad always said, ‘Don’t let one person take you down,’” said Allen after the game, grinning. “So, I’ve always tried to do that. If I’m gonna go down, I’m taking a lot of people with me. Thankfully it turned out to where I broke a few (tackles) and got a few more yards.
“It felt great to be back. Definitely need to get more into football shape, for sure, but that’s a perfect way to do it.”
Despite spending training camp on the sideline watching practice unfold, Allen said the Rams’ coaches threw a full playbook at him ahead of Saturday’s game. He also showed some intriguing ability as a blocker.
“They threw me right in, threw me right in the fire,” Allen said. “I was very thankful for that. And thankfully, while I was out the only thing I could do was study the playbook. So I didn’t want to be behind at all in that phase. This week, they kind of just … let me go. You know, they watched it a little bit, just coming back from injury. They kind of had to limit my yardage. But they just kind of let me go.”
3. Stetson Bennett giveth, taketh away
The Rams’ rookie backup quarterback, who played all but the second half of the fourth quarter Saturday, continues to hit the NFL learning curve in public — and often must do exactly that, several times per game. Bennett had a shaky opening, including a skipped third-down pass to receiver Tyler Johnson and another incomplete pass on a third down where he threw a high (but catchable) ball to contested receiver Demarcus Robinson and it fell incomplete. Bennett also threw a pick-six almost directly to safety Isaiah Pola-Mao. The ball was supposed to go to Johnson on an in-breaking route, which he ran, but Bennett instead threw to a landmark where an out-breaking route would have been.
“It was completely my fault,” Bennett said, “I thought that he was going to run a different route than he did, and anticipated it. And then he ran the one that was called. I threw the one that wasn’t, and I paid for it.”
And yet Bennett is also capable of making plays the Rams love to see, including a perfect timing throw to rookie receiver Xavier Smith in the second half, who in turn made an outstanding catch.
“They were running man coverage, and he had a seam route,” Bennett said, “I saw his release, checked the safety and just put it there. While it was in the air, I was like, ‘look … look … look …” and he did and it was right there, and he made a heck of a play.”
Bennett, who finished the game 15 of 24 for 142 yards and the interception, also ran in a keeper touchdown to cap an 11-play, 75-yard drive in the third quarter. He’s up and he’s down, and that’s to be expected. The Rams have seen him work through a learning curve before, when he went from walk-on to starter at Georgia.
“It’s hard to say exactly when it started to slow down (in college), I think it’s a continuous process,” he said. “All of the sudden, you’re kind of there. And that’s, I guess, what it will be like here. You don’t really know until you arrive, and all we can do is take the next step forward. That’s what I try to do each and every play.”
4. Special teams tackling a work in progress
Not only did the Raiders get a 31-yard punt return, barely saved by punter Ethan Evans pushing the returner out of bounds, but on many of the coverages of Evans’ punts there were at least two missed tackles, by a variety of different players. In fact, missing tackles at the initial contact point seemed more regular an occurrence than not, except when Evans punted a tight shot to the sideline that forced a Raiders returner to tip-toe as he caught it to stay inbounds, before going out of bounds — therefore rendering it unnecessary for the coverage players to tackle the returner.
“I think there’s been a lot of missed tackles,” McVay said, “there’s been a lot of situations, too, where I think you want to give some grace to (what would be) the main 11 guys that we’ve barely been working on that unit, that we anticipate covering punts when we play the Seattle Seahawks on the 10th. I’m not trying to make excuses, but there (are) some real continuity things that we want to continue to tighten down. Even on the one that we gave up last week, there are some very seamless things that we can correct.”
On a positive note, second-year safety Quentin Lake has been a true bright spot on special teams and also while playing dime linebacker — a sub package position that features a safety playing closer to the line of scrimmage, but is separate from their multifaceted “Star” role. Lake had a couple of outstanding tackles, including one on special teams that pinned the Raiders deep in their own territory in the second quarter.
5. Byron Young … penciled-in starter?
I marked down Young as a player to watch in this week’s preseason game after a fantastic week of practice. Turns out, it was indeed productive enough that the Rams surprisingly decided to rest him — also potentially nodding toward his status as a starter. A team spokesman confirmed that Young is not injured.
McVay mentioned after the game that Young was “a little sore” after so heavy a workload in practice and so he made the call to rest him, but this additionally indicates to me that Young is, as of now, penciled in as one of the starting outside linebackers.
Should be mentioned: Third-string running back Ronnie Rivers followed an impressive first preseason game with another strong performance against the Raiders. Rivers cleaved out runs of six, seven and six yards on the Rams’ opening drive and many times when he was substituted, the run game seemed to stall. It’s still unknown whether the Rams will keep three or four running backs on their 53-man roster, and rookie Zach Evans has draft pick status. But Rivers will not go quietly, nor should he.
Did not play: Stafford, Cooper Kupp, Van Jefferson, Tutu Atwell, Puka Nacua, Cam Akers, Tyler Higbee, Coleman Shelton, Brian Allen, Rob Havenstein, Brycen Hopkins, Hunter Long (injured), Ernest Jones, Cobie Durant, Derion Kendrick (injured), Jason Taylor (also missed practice Thursday), Young, Ochaun Mathis (injured).
znModeratorGary Klein@LATimeskleinStetson Bennett’s night is done. He completed 15 of 24 passes for 142 yards, with an interception that was returned for a TD. He also rushed for a four-yard TD..Blaine Grisak@bgrisakTSTLogan Bruss is banged up. Looks like he rolled his ankle. Had shown improvement in pass protection up until that last play. Rams settle for a FG. Tanner Brown’s kick is GOOD!.Punt coverage unit HAS to be better. Almost two weeks in a row. Evans also needs to do better at not out-kicking his coverage. Closest gunner was 10 yards away from the returner. Got a little lucky that one wasn’t ‘housed’..Some good things tonight and things that still need worked on. Overall liked what I saw from the OL. Davis Allen looked good in his debut and Tre Tomlinson looks like a steal. Rough moments from Bennett, edge rushers, and secondary depth. One more week to correct things!.JAKE ELLENBOGEN@JKBOGENStetson Bennett looked like a rookie this week. Totally fine. Tre Tomlinson simply did not. He looked like the #Rams stole a Tariq Woolen level corner in the 6th round as he continued his bright play. Ronnie Rivers is definitely going to make the team..TurfShowTimes@TurfShowTimesLow throw by Stetson Bennett. Unofficial quote by Sean McVay watching the replay: “Ah, fuck me”.Cameron DaSilva@camdasilvaTre Tomlinson continues to play well this preseason. Beautiful PBU down the left sideline.
znModeratornice back shoulder pic.twitter.com/TI9eLMUQbh
— roberto clemente (@rclemente2121) August 20, 2023
znModeratorStetson Bennett with 6 on the ground! 🔥 pic.twitter.com/Oj24eLQY95
— Rams Tapes 🥶 (@RamsTapes) August 20, 2023
znModeratorWhat an absolutely beautiful play on the ball by Jake Hummel, followed by returning it to the endzone! Pick 6 Rams!!!
And just like that, it’s 10-10.pic.twitter.com/wmIBon16uf
— RAMS REPORT🗯 (@RamsNFLReport) August 20, 2023
August 20, 2023 at 12:24 am in reply to: the 2023 OL thread (w/ definitive article posted on 5/30) #144957
znModeratorCameron DaSilva@camdasilvaAndrew Whitworth said Joe Noteboom is unquestionably one of the Rams’ 5 best offensive linemen and will start no matter which position he plays.
Big Whit just suggested that Joe Noteboom is slated to be the starter at RG for week 1. Potential lineup:
• Alaric Jackson (LT)
• Steve Avila (LG)
• Allen/Shelton (C)
• Joe Noteboom (RG)
• Rob Havenstein (RT)McClendon seems to be top option at tackle in case of emergency.
— Rams Brothers (@RamsBrothers) August 20, 2023
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