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znModeratorNFL Rookie Watch@NFLRookieWatxhByron Young wasn’t recruited at all coming out of high school, and ended up taking two jobs at Dollar General and Burger King.
One day, he saw a flyer about a tryout at Georgia Military College, tried out, and ended up making the team.
After just one season, Young gained the attention of many D1 schools and committed to Tennessee.
Young dominated at Tennessee, and turned himself into a third round pick in this past NFL Draft.
Now, Young leads all rookies in pressures (25) and QB hits (8) through six weeks.
znModeratorTurfShowTimes@TurfShowTimes
Rams CB Salary Rank: 32nd
Rams S Salary Rank: 29th
Rams Pass TD Allowed Rank: 1st
Rams COMP% Allowed Rank: 3rd
Rams Passer Rating Allowed Rank: 7th
Rams 1st or 2nd round picks in Secondary: 0Raheem Morris job interviews next year: A lot
HoldenCantor@HoldenCantor
Ahkello Witherspoon and Kevin Dotson are facing their former team this Sunday vs the Steelers, these two have been phenomenal underrated pickups from the front office. Ahkello has had a top 5 coverage grade and Dotson is the 2nd highest graded guard in the NFL.
znModeratorKobie Turner continues to jump off the tape.
Played his most snaps of the season without Bobby Brown in the lineup. Was arguably his best game. Credited with three run stops.
Does a good job getting off his block here and taking away the cutback lane. pic.twitter.com/SqIfLD2dVb
— Blaine Grisak 💭 (@bgrisakTST) October 17, 2023
znModeratorD'Marco and I both got a kick out of seeing RT Rob Havenstein give the @AndrewWhitworth hand signal to "run it again" in Sunday's second half.
Apparently, the @RamsNFL head coach enjoyed it, too. Enough to call Big Whit after the game. 😂 pic.twitter.com/3ZwsLo17CD
— J.B. Long (@JB_Long) October 17, 2023
znModeratorThe highest-graded QBs in Week 6 pic.twitter.com/Lv13rWSF5C
— PFF (@PFF) October 17, 2023
znModerator.@RamsNFL v @AZCardinals Stafford to Kupp = TD; its been a little while but the connection looks as sharp as ever! YO. NFL. Pay attention to these Rams. #BaldysBreakdowns pic.twitter.com/LSboxM435C
— Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) October 17, 2023
znModerator.@RamsNFL @Kyrenwilliams23 some crazy crazeee running in final 30 minutes. The blocking up fromt looked like “Sumo at SoFi” behind @Stevelavila Alaric & Avila The new AA @BigDuke50 #BaldysBreakdowns pic.twitter.com/9hi9ENR7xX
— Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) October 17, 2023
znModeratorkw at work pic.twitter.com/wMFY91rAVS
— roberto clemente (@rclemente2121) October 17, 2023
znModeratorThe highest-graded edge defenders in Week 6 pic.twitter.com/C8FczJA93u
— PFF (@PFF) October 17, 2023
znModeratorRookie running back Zach Evans is slated to make his first career start this week in wake of the injuries to Kyren Williams and Ronnie Rivers.
Evans certainly is not without skill. A big back who is not afraid of contact and has the speed to extend the play! pic.twitter.com/4pjiQVXnXx
— RAMS ON FILM (@RamsOnFilm) October 17, 2023
znModeratori worry less about stafford, but i think donald has about two years left past this season. there’s not many defensive linemen if any who can produce at a high level past 34 years old. 2025 will be his age 34 season.
Yeah, I thought he would tail off a bit this year, but I’m not sure he has. He’s been explosive as Deacon and as rock-solid consistent as Merlin. Best Defensive player of the decade. My wild speculation is, he plays two more years and then rides off into the sunset. w v
Looking at equivalent players, like John Randle and Warren Sapp and a couple of others.
AD is in his 10th year.
Randle played for 14 years and was tailing off but still productive in year 13. 14 years for AD would be 2026.
Sapp played for 13 yeas and was tailing off but still productive in year 12. 13 years for AD would be 2o25.
Alan Page played for 15 years and was still productive in year 15. For AD 15 years would be 2027.”
Randy White played for 14 years and was tailing off but still productive in year 13.
Steve McMichael played for 15 years and was tailing off but still productive in year 14.
October 17, 2023 at 5:10 pm in reply to: injury list for Steelers game … w/ a lot on RB situation #146218
znModeratorI don’t know if the blocking has changed significantly with the new OL approach.
fwiw, yes they have changed completely…on run blocking anyway. I don’t know about pass blocking schemes though you would think not.
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znModeratorKevin Cole@KevinCole
Most interception-worthy throws (v. actual interceptions) according to @FTNDataMac Jones 14 (4)
Desmond Ridder 11 (3)
Sam Howell 10 (5)
Josh Allen 9 (4)
Ryan Tannehill 9 (4)
Jimmy Garoppolo 9 (6)
Joshua Dobbs 8 (0)
Jordan Love 8 (3)
Kenny Pickett 8 (4)
Justin Fields 8 (5)
Jalen Hurts 7 (3)
Patrick Mahomes 7 (4)
Daniel Jones 7 (6)
Tua Tagovailoa 6 (3)
Geno Smith 5 (1)
Justin Herbert 5 (1)
Derek Carr 5 (2)
Zach Wilson 5 (4)
Brock Purdy 4 (0)
Dak Prescott 4 (1)
Baker Mayfield 4 (2)
Bryce Young 4 (2)
Joe Burrow 4 (2)
Russell Wilson 4 (2)
C.J. Stroud 3 (0)
Anthony Richardson 3 (1)
Lamar Jackson 3 (1)
Deshaun Watson 3 (2)
Trevor Lawrence 3 (2)
Jared Goff 3 (3)
Kirk Cousins 3 (4)
Matthew Stafford 3 (5)October 17, 2023 at 1:19 am in reply to: injury list for Steelers game … w/ a lot on RB situation #146208
znModeratorStu Jackson@StuJRamsSean McVay said RBs Kyren Williams and Ronnie Rivers are “going to be out for a little bit.”Rams can’t have nice things.
On the other hand…maybe Evans is what he’s cracked up to be. Draft day thread w/ write-ups & highlights & Waldman vids: https://theramshuddle.com/topic/rams-pick-at-215/
October 17, 2023 at 12:39 am in reply to: injury list for Steelers game … w/ a lot on RB situation #146207
znModeratorStu Jackson@StuJRamsSean McVay said RBs Kyren Williams and Ronnie Rivers are “going to be out for a little bit.” Still working through exactly how long they will be out, but McVay said “the initial prognosis looks like it’s going to be challenging for those guys in the immediate future.”
znModeratorJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
“All the credit to Sean, just coming out there and trusting us,” veteran RT Rob Havenstein said. “A chance to get out there and set your pads, truly, and not really let what they were doing affect what we wanted to do. I think that was illustrated in that first (Q3) drive.”Underdog NFL@Underdog__NFL
Cooper Kupp’s ranks among WRs since his Week 5 debut:22 targets (4th)
15 receptions (4th)
266 receiving yards (4th)Blaine Grisak@bgrisakTST
Byron Young had five pressures against the Cardinals. It’s his third game this season with five or more pressures.Leads rookies at EDGe in pressures this season.
JAKE ELLENBOGEN@JKBOGEN
Byron Young has been everything the #Rams NEEDED him to be coming into this year. Through 6 games:1st in pressures among all rookie EDGE
2nd in sacks among all rookie EDGE
2nd in pass rush productivity among all rookie EDGE
3rd in pass rush win rate among all rookie EDGE
T-8th in true pass set pressures
10th in tackles for EDGE
12th in defensive stops for EDGE
15th in EDGE pressures
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Ramsoholic@ShayTweetedThat
The second highest rated GUARD in football ? Kevin DotsonBlaine Grisak@bgrisakTST
Rams GM Les Snead deserves so much credit for the Kevin Dotson trade. An underrated move like the Austin Corbett trade, but has been extremely impactful.Over the past three weeks, Dotson has been the 5th-highest graded OL in the NFL.
The Dotson trade has made the right side of the Rams offensive line one of the best in the NFL.
Over the past three weeks…
Dotson: 5th-highest graded OL via PFF
Havenstein: 7th-highest graded OL via PFFBrandon Thorn@BrandonThornNFL
Best rookie OL so far this season: Rams LG Steve Avila
znModeratorPuka Nacua and Tyler Higbee sheesh pic.twitter.com/YSAuymX0Ty
— Ian Hartitz (@Ihartitz) October 16, 2023
znModeratorAllen Sales@AllenSalesIt wouldnt surprise me if Zach Evans has a great game this Sunday. Dude was a 5 star prospect out of Houston and played well at TCU and Ole Miss. Watch his tape… dude is physical at contact and always drives forward. Looking forward to seeing what he can do..
Your time to shine, Rook pic.twitter.com/KvbhnitLFn
— HoldenCantor (@HoldenCantor) October 16, 2023
znModeratorMyles Garrett won 31% of his pass rushing snaps vs Trent Williams in Week 6
That is the highest percentage given up by Williams in his entire career 🤯 pic.twitter.com/IAyeRnDecO
— PFF (@PFF) October 16, 2023
znModeratorRB1 is for the kids 🥹💙 pic.twitter.com/Er2RaHkLGu
— Rams Tapes 🥶 (@RamsTapes) October 16, 2023
znModerator— Computer Cowboy (@benbbaldwin) October 16, 2023
October 16, 2023 at 8:33 pm in reply to: injury list for Steelers game … w/ a lot on RB situation #146195
znModeratorIan Rapoport@RapSheetWhile Kyren Williams’ MRI revealed just an ankle sprain that may knock him out this week, the news was not as positive for Ronnie Rivers. Source says he has a Grade 3 PCL sprain and is out 4-5 weeks. That likely means IR.
znModeratorByron Young winning with an inside chop x 2, outside chop and with a ghost move as the looper on a twist = juice pic.twitter.com/D46uXtnF8e
— Brandon Thorn (@BrandonThornNFL) October 16, 2023
znModeratorJ.B. Long@JB_Long
Notable PFF grades from @RamsNFL
W6 win over ARI, and there were an abundance of very good marks:Stafford 90.0
Young 87.3
Kupp 87.0
Dotson 86.1
Donald 85.2
Kyren 84.8
Havenstein 82.7
Jones 82.5
Durant 81.4
Fuller 80.0
Turner 77.6
Jonah 76.8
Hoecht 74.7
znModeratorwell that blows.
Shelley has been playing well at CB, and Durant graded out well against Arz.
Their secondary depth is kind of unreal.
znModeratorBlaine Grisak@bgrisakTST
Rams OL PFF Grades in Week 6:Alaric Jackson: 51.8 RBLK | 75.8 PBLK
Steve Avila: 51.7 | 69.2
Coleman Shelton: 57.3 | 77.4
Kevin Dotson: 83.7 | 73.8
Rob Havenstein: 84.1 | 74.910 total pressures. Dotson was the 2nd-highest graded offensive lineman in the NFL for the week.
PFF LA Rams@PFF_Rams
Byron Young: 87.3 PFF grade vs the Cardinals ??1st among ALL rookies in Week 6
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Top five offensive grades:
1 – Matthew Stafford, QB: 90.0
Stafford earned an “elite” mark in this game and completed 15 of 24 passes for 226 yards and a touchdown. He had two other potential scores dropped by rookie WR Puka Nacua and TE Tyler Higbee.Overall, the veteran had four big-time throws against Arizona which was his second-highest output of the season. He led the NFL in such throws coming into this game and should hold onto his top spot. Stafford had no turnover-worthy plays and had a clean effort. His adjusted completion percentage of 84.2 was by far the highest he’s had this year.
2 – Cooper Kupp, WR: 87.0
Kupp caught 7 passes for 148 yards and a touchdown while accounting for nearly two-thirds of the team’s receiving production. It was a dominant effort for the star receiver and his chemistry with Stafford was on display in this one.3 – Kevin Dotson, RG: 86.1
Dotson has been a top guard in the NFL so far this season and currently ranks 12th of 83 players that have at least 83 snaps under their belt. The Rams acquired him just before the start of the season without giving up much in the way of draft capital. Joe Noteboom—who entered the season as the starting RG—should be fully healthy soon but LA should stay the course and keep Doston in the lineup.4 – Kyren Williams, RB: 84.8
Williams had 20 carries for 158 yards (7.9 average) and a touchdown. He was not as active in the passing game as we are used to seeing from him.Still, it was an impressive day for the second-year back and he ran as physically as we’ve ever seen from him—including an angry run at the goal line where he stiff armed a defender in the backfield and then ran through a pack of three Cardinals to break the plane.
5 – Rob Havenstein, RT: 82.7
The right side of the line fared well in run blocking. Havenstein has been very reliable for Los Angeles and usually only runs into trouble when facing the more elite pass rushers in the NFL. This was certainly one of his stronger performances.Other notes on offense:
Interestingly, it was a stark drop in the grading between the fifth-highest player and the next in Tutu Atwell (62.7). Coleman Shelton and the left side of the offensive line fared well in pass blocking grades—all were 69.2 or better—bet did not grade out well in run blocking despite Williams racking up 158 yards and averaging 7.9 yards per carry.
Top five defensive grades:
1 – Byron Young, OLB: 87.3
Young had five total pressures including a strip sack on Josh Dobbs. He was also active in the run game and recorded four stops.This was probably the most complete effort we’ve seen from the rookie. He’s flashed at times as a pass rusher, but he was consistently disruptive in this game.
2 – Aaron Donald, DE: 85.2
Donald led the defense with seven total pressures, though his run grade (84.9) finished notably higher than his pass rushing mark (74.9). The star defensive end had three stops. Donald ranks fifth in the NFL in total pressures on the season and is behind only Maxx Crosby, Aidan Hutchinson, Bryce Huff, and Chase Young.3 – Ernest Jones, MLB: 82.5
The man in the middle of LA’s defense had an active day with 10 tackles and an impressive run defense grade of 90.7. Jones was targeted twice in coverage and allowed just one completion for nine yards (14 came after the catch point).4 – Cobie Durant, SCB: 81.4
Durant has struggled at times this season, but this was his strongest came yet in the 2023 campaign. He was targeted only twice in coverage and allowed a single reception for 17 yards with two pass breakups. The second-year corner has a slight frame and can sometimes have issues tackling, but he graded out well with a mark of 82.1.5 – Jordan Fuller, DB: 80.0
Fuller was targeted six times and allowed only two catches for 13 yards and a passer rating of 42.4. He also had five tackles and aligned in the box on 12 plays—so he was involved in the game as more than a deep coverage player.Other notes on defense:
Three other members of the defensive line also had a strong effort. Rookie DT Kobie Turner had an overall grade of 77.6 (sixth). DE Jonah Williams (76.8; seventh) had a key sack that took the Cardinals out of field goal position. Michael Hoecht (74.7; eighth) was tied with Young with five total pressures and hit the quarterback twice. He was targeted twice in coverage—which has been a complaint by fans—and allowed two receptions for 21 yards (20 after the catch).
znModeratorIunno what I like more — Steve Avila looking for work or how juiced he gets when he catches a body. https://t.co/tbCFBWgrrM
— Sosa Kremenjas (@QBsMVP) October 16, 2023
znModeratorA game like that — 158 yards — makes one start thinking about running-style ‘comparisons’. I watched K. Williams and tried to think of who he reminded me of in ‘that’ game and i thought of…..Emmitt Smith ? w v
He actually reminds me a bit of of Sony Michel. A smaller but smart, tough back with decent vision who does not have extra speed or elusiveness but who maximizes basic RB skills. He has enough physical talent but uses his head and sheer will to get more out of what he has. Wms. is a hit and go gap-blocking runner who does not have the power of a power back or the magic in traffic of an elusive back or the raw speed and acceleration of a speed back–on most teams with premier backs he would be the #2, but a valuable one. That’s not a put down. He may be basic physically–certainly talent enough to play in the NFL, just not exceptional–but he is gifted at maximizing and getting the most out of what he does have, including things like reading blocks. If you listen to him talk about games, he has the same kind of knowledge of the game for his position that Kupp does as a receiver.
He sees lanes but can’t make people miss and can’t run over guys, but he knows how to take what is there and has the mindset of a true gamer who sees and does all the little things that add up to him being a great opportunist. In fact he sees his opportunities quickly, and has great anticipation based on what he sees, but he’s never going to be the kind of back who creates second and third opportunities after he seizes the first one.
If Dickerson had Williams’ head and mindset he would have been unstoppable.
I don’t mean he’s a JAG. More like (an unlikely analogy) a Brady at RB. Brady didn’t have the arm, toughness, size, or magic of the qbs you automatically see can be special, but he processed more quickly than anyone else, and just wanted it more than most.
So Wms. has enough strength, enough toughness, enough burst, enough quickness, enough vision–but his gift is to maximize all that by just willing it and processing fast, plus being an instinctive student of the game.
Michel aside, in his own, different way I compare him to his favorite NFL back of all time–Steven Jackson. He may not be Jackson physically (though again he’s no mere JAG)…but he does have #39’s will and instincts and smarts.
znModeratorHoldenCantor@HoldenCantorWhen asked about the rushing yards, Rob Havenstein called Tyler Higbee the unspoken hero of this team, crediting him for his blocking ability.Blaine Grisak@bgrisakTST
Raheem Morris deserves so much credit for what he’s accomplishing with this group on defense for the Rams.Finished as the 3rd best defense in EPA and 4th in success rate yesterday. While they rank 22nd overall in EPA this season, they’re 11th in success rate.
Aaron Donald likely isn’t in the Defensive Player of the Year conversation right now. However, this season is arguably some of his best work in his Rams career.
Elevating the guys around him. Kobie Turner, Jonah Williams, Byron Young, etc. all finding success next to AD.
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