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znModeratorRanking the 11 best wide receiver duos šØš šš„š„ šš¢š¦š
Which tandem would you add? pic.twitter.com/qJmc1oxvhX
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9. Rams: Isaac Bruce, Torry Holt
Isaac Bruce was one of the best. His receptions total (1,024) ranked fifth, and his receiving yardage (15,208) placed him second in NFL history at the time of his retirement. Torry Holt was a shade behind Bruce in their career totals but a bit better than him when the two were key cogs in the Greatest Show of Turf.
These guys played together a long time, from Holtās rookie 1999 season that ended with a Super Bowl victory all the way through to 2007. In the year 2000, under Mike Martz, the Rams averaged nearly 34 points per game. Bruce was targeted 135 times. Holt was targeted 139 times. They combined for 274 receptions for 3,106 yards (194 yards per game) and 15 touchdowns.
They won one Super Bowl and could have, or should have, won one more.
znModeratorGood luck running on these guys š¤@Andy_Benoit ranks the top nine on-ball run defenders in the NFL and @camjordan94 grabs the top spot šŖ pic.twitter.com/27FLPQjzsQ
— The 33rd Team (@The33rdTeamFB) August 2, 2023
znModeratorphoenixrising
8/1
A few quick observationsā¦I seemed to spend most my time looking up names/numbers on the roster! Itās always tough the first day out, but so many new players!Kupp and Donald look awesome, shocker. Kupp in particular impresses me that he just seems to get better every year, even at this stage of his career.
Akers looks ready to rock. Added weight and his cuts look just as quick and heās playing with aggression. Zach Evans impressed me, more than the film I saw. Heās a powerful back and also runs with agression. Looked like the second best RB to me.
OG Avila dominated Marquis Copeland the couple plays I focused on him.
Kupp, Higbie, and Bryce Hopkins stood out as receivers.
Stetson Bennett looks very fast, he easily beat Byron Young to the sideline. Maybe not Lamar fast, but faster than Mahomes or Russell in his prime. Iād compare him to Steve Young, showing my age. As it has been pointed out, he looks confused in the pocket but really excels throwing on the run.
znModeratorSo Ram
8/1
QB take- I didnāt look at who was who.Matthew Stafford did not suit up.
I knew Bennett was 13. I know Rypien is like ??? Donāt know much about The Rams other QB.
Donāt know why I didnāt bother,but it is a new QB group.āStenson Bennett was outstanding.He took ownership of The Rams offense.
1. Seriously comfortable in the pocket.He keeps his eyes downfield,goes through his progression,& lives for another down,but keepās pressure on the defense.
2.He brought back what a WINNER he is.That game against Ohio State was one of the most amazing games from a QB ever.He Carried Georgia on his back.
3.Donāt think there is much more,but he has a little Baker Mayfield in him.Meaning he can make all the throws.Wolford & Perkins couldnāt.
The other QBās were ok ??(Run game).
āMatthew Stafford showed up basically after practice? Fans were going CRAZY!! The kids were going CRAZY.I donāt know if he was signing autographs?? There is a line & each day different groups come out to sign.TE – have to bring up Tyler Higbee. Then his twin brother Brycen Hopkins.These guys are WEAPONS & nightmare matchups in The Red Zone.
The Rams finished off practice just dominating on OFFENSE!!
Hopkins & Higbee couldnāt be stopped & heās Cooper Kupp always has to be brought up when talking unstoppable.The first TD HOPKINS had Tomlinson was guarding him. I think he even hit him before the ball got there.NO ONE WAS going to STOP Hopkins. DUDE is DIALED IN IMPRESSIVE.Iām like JACKED UP!! Mcvay was as well.He came up to Hopkins & then Threw it right back to him for another TD!! PRACTICE ENDS!!
#83 is a big guy & looked good in warmupās.He did a drill though with a Dummy & just ate it.He ran it over,but actually he probably went about it right & would have maybe drew a PI?
Niko K was interesting to watch.The drills WR/TE Ben Sko on one side & then Kupp on the other side. Then Hopkins & Higbee.
I swear it was cool to see the similarities. PERFECT MENTORSHIP!!! Sko & Hopkins have really improved their game. It shows year (Sko )& 4 (Hopkins). BEN SKO- what a STUD!! I could have gotten band from here because I was so down on him.
I WAS WRONG!!! From first training camp to NOW Ben Sko just continues to WaoRak HARD & IMPROVE his GAME!! You can see that.RBās Cam Akers is finding holes inside.His hood vision & stays low.At the end of practice he ran for a 3 yard TD. His running ias consistent.He doesnāt do that run after the whistle thing.Didnāt see any really if those long plays from him either.
āI donāt know how else I can say it but POWER.The Rams whole concept is POWER & Protect.This Mike Lefluer has what he wants to do laid out.This OFFENSE is DESIGNED To RUN.
ā Rivers is a nice young RB.There was a play he got to the 5 yards line. Iām Saying POWER &!thatās what he was.He had at least a CB & LB trying to STOP him & his feet didnāt STOP & carried them in the Endzone.This kid 30 is going to make the team.I LIKE ME SOME RONNIE RIVERS.In blocking drills he is SOLID!!
Tiyon Evans???? #27 ???
Zach Evans #21 is still raw,but the effort is there.He is such a straight up RB.I have to question if he makes the squad.Looks like a preseason RB,gets cut & on the practice squad.Wasnāt impressed.āKyren Williams is the real deal.He gets to the edge nice & hard to tackle.Never squares up.Runs at angles & has good vision. (Really like him as a PT guy as well ???)
Noteboom was The Rams starting LT for the most part.
He was in & I told this guy they were in motion & watch Noteboom.He pulled from let to right & turned once he got to the edge & turned back to block & seal. BEAUTIFUL Play Call & Design.
Noteboom just DOMINATED Byron Young all day from what I saw.
Alaric Jackson would alternate with him & late in the practice screamed to put Noteboom in.First day in Pads,but he looks BETTER than ever !!!!
Anchrum was play RG & he fits as a guard.As much as I havenāt liked him he looks strong.It takes players from College to The NFL to get that body frame.
He is an example.Everyone on here last year liked him in the preseason.His injury sucked & A.Jackson played that RG position well in his absence.
ā Shelton might have been with the first team ?
āBrian Allen looked sore afte the first drill snapping to the QBās.
A. Jackson is BIG,he does well.LT is going to not be a concern IMO.
Steve Avila is just a pure Guard.He locks up well & holds that LG spot down well.He really helps The LT to relax.He can be trusted on stunts & supporting the inside pass rushThe Defense- I LOVED BOBBY BROWN.He made a Big Play & started pounding his chest.That got me Fired Up.Let him know my appreciation.
There is #50? Donāt know why he keeps standing out? Learning numbers isnāt easy. Ernest Jones didnāt standout to me,but wasnāt watching him much.
āRozeboom looks like a core special teams player.Thatās a way to make the roster.
-Hummel was alright.There are some big boys out there though.Was on the sidelines & not watching ,but the Defense stop the offense a few times early in practice.I think the group in whole is solid.
Hoecht is basically taking over for Floyd at OLB LDE. Copland is on the inside as DE.
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znModeratorA giant iceberg has sailed to the Canadian island of Newfoundland
The poor people in that house! The iceberg is obstructing their view.
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znModeratorElvis
just heard Snead on the radio, said the usual stuff but one thing he said was you could go your whole career as a GM and not find a Matthew Stafford or a Cooper Kupp or an Aaron Donald so he’s not ready to sell this team too short…
znModeratorBennett will likely be the backup to former UGA quarterback and No. 1 overall pick Matthew Stafford. Still, Stafford recognizes Bennett’s ability on the field, stating previously, “He’s got great athleticism, throws the ball well, and does a lot of things really well.” Rams HC Sean McVay wanted Bennett to prove himself and push him to earn the backup role to Stafford, which Kirby SmartĀ also did while Bennett was at Georgia.
“I’ve been really pleased with him,”Ā McVay’s statementĀ concerning Bennett.Ā “The one thing that stands out is when the ball is in Stetson’s hands, the game makes sense to him – he’s fun to be around.”
znModerator10 Observations from the Rams’ second open 2023 training camp practice: Run-game heavy day, and vet rest day for Stafford means more reps for Bennett and Rypien
Stu Jackson
IRVINE, Calif. ā It was a run-heavy day for the Rams in Monday’s training camp practice, the first in pads for players. Additionally, quarterback Matthew Stafford had a scheduled rest day, which meant more reps for Stetson Bennett and Brett Rypien. Still, there were plenty of noteworthy plays throughout the practice.
Here are 10 things that stood out from the session:
1) Vet rest day for Stafford: Head coach Sean McVay said Monday was a scheduled rest day for Stafford, which in turn gave more opportunities for Bennett and Rypien to command the offense. McVay said this was also to align with the regular season cadence of Stafford throwing four times in seven days. Stafford was still as involved as he could be in that capacity, spending time coaching up the Rams’ young quarterbacks during individual drills.
2) Run-heavy emphasis: Monday’s practice ā the first of this year’s training camp in pads ā was a run game-heavy one by design, McVay said afterward.
3) Play of the day: Bennett connected with Kupp for a touchdown during redzone drills with the throw and catch both equally impressive.
4) Peanut Punch: Rookie defensive back Tyon Davis channeled his inner Charles Tillman, punching the ball loose from running back Zach Evans’ grasp. Outside linebacker Daniel Hardy scooped up the loose ball, sending the defensive sideline into a frenzy.
5) Turner turns it up: Rookie nose tackle Kobie Turner had a play where he pressured Bennett from the interior, flushed him out of the pocket and forced him to run out of bounds.
6) Witherspoon back: Ahkello Witherspoon was back at practice, wearing a cast on his left hand as McVay said would be the case after undergoing thumb surgery. Witherspoon had a nice pass breakup during practice, swatting down a Bennett pass intended for tight end Tyler Higbee.
7) Zach Evans as a receiver: The fumble shouldn’t overshadow that Evans had a nice moment in practice as well where he caught pass in the flat and showed speed and quickness getting past the linebacker as he ran up the sideline.
8) Hopkins goes high up: Tight end Brycen Hopkins made an impressive leaping grab over the middle on a pass from Rypien during team drills.
9) Robinson continues to shine: Wide receiver Demarcus Robinson made a tough touchdown catch in the corner of the endzone during 1-on-1s with rookie defensive back Cameron McCutcheon in coverage.
10) Welcome Royce: Newly-signed running back Royce Freeman participated in Monday’s practice.
znModerator8to12
8/1
Just returned home from seeing Camp today.
This will not be a long report …… too many disctractions and blocked views from the stands that kept me from getting a good view of certain drills and scrimmaging.
– Punt return drill: Austin trammel, Xavier Smith, Puca Nacua, and Kyren WIlliams taking Reps today. I think Tutu did take some Reps later in practice. WIlliams and Smith seem to be the 2 that lloked the most smooth, although Smith did muff 1.
-ILB drills: THey run this drill in ppairs, just like how they would play on the fiels. Rozebook was with Ernest Jones, and then you either Anyalebechi or Wooden running with Jake Hummel in the second group. The group in general looked pedestriam ; nothing stood out.
11 on 11: In general it was a good day for TE’s 1&2 ; Higbee & Hopkins. ON running plays, they would sometimes go in motion, and on the snap, dive into the “B” gap to block down on the DE/OLB or straight up on an ILB. The RB’s had a few 10-15 yard gains getting through this gap. In the passing game, both had a number of catches. HIgbee had a nice TD grab form 15 yards out, and Hopkins duplicated it with a leaping grab over the middle for a score. Hopkins then caught a couple short yardage TD’s to give him 3 on the day. There was a big drop off from these 2 to SIms & Kalinic, and with Allen out with a Hamstring and did not see Hunter Long on the field.
D-line groupings: 1st unit, including OLB’s was Hoecht, Copeland, Turner, Donald, B. Young ; noteworthy that Kobie Turner was playing NT. 2nd unit: Mathis, E Brown, B Brown, D JOhnson, Hampton
There were many plays were they dropped 1 of the LIneman and lined up with 4, including the 2 OLB’s… for example: Hoecht, E Brown, D Johnson, D Hardy …. and few plays later, B young, K Turner, D Murchison, O Mathis
O-line groupings: 1st unit: LT A Jackson, LG Avila, C Shelton. RG Anchrum, RT Havenstein
2nd unit: LT Noteboom, Z Thomas, Allen, G MIller, RT AcuriRun blocking was consistently good. However, pass blocking had some breakdowns. If it was live play, Aleric Jackson would have given up 3 sacks today. Going to need to see some improvement there.
Stafford did not participate on the field today. Bennet and Rypien took most of the Reps in 11-on-11. There were a couple of design Runs for Bennet. There was a play that fakes a Jet sweep to the WR and then Bennet reverese pivots and goes the other way. This play will catch some defense napping one day……
Of the WR’s,Puca is getting a lot of reps along with Demarcus Robinson. It was only 1 day so far for me, but is he continues to play like this, Robinson may be WR3.
Last note… it is good to see some added size with the CB group. Having Witherspoon and Gray , both at 6’2″ , balances out that group.
… After practive, some of the DB’s stayed behind to work… Witherspoon and Rochelle were working on technique together. I was happy to see to the veteran working with Rochelle.
znModeratorfrom PFF,
The 50 best players in the NFL right now
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-pff50-ranking-50-best-players-2023
2. DIĀ AARON DONALD,Ā LOS ANGELES RAMS
Reports ofĀ Donald’s demiseĀ have been greatly exaggerated. For the first time in his NFL career, he dealt with a significant injury, limiting him to just 11 games. Despite that, he still finished 2022 with aĀ 90.5 PFF grade and 40 total pressures. When you turn on the tape, you see him also the total focus of the opposing offense, dedicating an absurd amount of extra attention to him or simply trying to eliminate him as a factor with play calls of quick passing or moving pockets. Last year was maybe the worst season we have seen from Donald in the NFL, and it was still elite.
znModeratorhoecht is super athletic. heās going into his third year? or maybe fourth? so yeah heās a good candidate for a breakout year. another guy iām looking out for is bobby brown iii. still only 22 but will turn 23 in a week. physically what you are looking for in a tackle. big strong and long.
Yes a couple of the 3-4 year guys could step up and play decent football.
Brown is one (3rd year). Copeland is another (4th year).
There’s also Jonah Williams (3rd year).
We have no idea yet what they have. Is it too much to expect 3 obscure players to step up? Well technically yes, but, on the other hand, Sebastian-Day and Gaines were both solid pick-ups who came out of nowhere to surprise us when they got their opportunities. So it’s not out of the realm of possibility.
My imagination with Hoecht runs kind of wild–I like the idea of him being a “line up anywhere” type who can play edge/OLB, and also line up in 4 man pass-rush fronts at either DE or DT. Let a 1000 positions bloom for Hoecht, who is kind of a freak. But then I have no idea if they have plans like that for him.
znModeratorWho is the most overrated? Which player was disrespected?
Welcome to @SandoNFL's 2023 QB Tiers.
Unfiltered thoughts from 50 NFL coaches and executives on 30 veteran QBs.https://t.co/knDENsbQTh
— The Athletic (@TheAthletic) July 31, 2023
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from NFL Quarterback Tiers 2023: Mahomes, Burrow take over Tier 1, Hurts vaults to top of Tier 2
Mike Sando
Jul 31, 2023Patrick Mahomes has no equal in this 10th edition of the Quarterback Tiers, although AFC rival Joe Burrow is close behind. Mahomes, Burrow and Josh Allen all overtook Aaron Rodgers. Justin Herbert is lurking. Is Jalen Hurts on track to join the exclusive Tier 1 ranks, reserved for the very best?
The 2023 Quarterback Tiers results are here, complete with commentary from the 50 NFL coaches and executives who were granted anonymity to share unvarnished evaluations. This year, the 50 league insiders who placed 30 veteran quarterbacks into tiers included eight general managers, 10 head coaches, 15 coordinators, 10 executives, four quarterbacks coaches and three involved in coaching/analytics.
Voters put 30 veteran quarterbacks into five tiers, from best (Tier 1) to worst (Tier 5). Quarterbacks were then ranked by average vote and placed into tiers based on vote distribution, beginning with Mahomes, whose 1.00 average vote reflected his status as a unanimous Tier 1 selection. No QBs landed in Tier 5 this year, although some received Tier 5 votes. The survey excludes rookies because voters have not seen them play in the NFL.
The tiers are defined below. Generally speaking, the better equipped a quarterback is to win with less help around him, especially in situations when running the ball is not feasible, the better he will fare in Quarterback Tiers.
The 30 QB modules below expand to reveal commentary and voting histories. Tap or click on the down arrows near each QB to get started.
Tier 1
A Tier 1 quarterback can carry his team each week. The team wins because of him. He expertly handles pure passing situations. He has no real holes in his game.1 Patrick Mahomes
2 Joe Burrow
3 Josh Allen
4 Aaron Rodgers
5 Justin HerbertTier 2
A Tier 2 quarterback can carry his team sometimes but not as consistently. He can handle pure passing situations in doses and/or possesses other dimensions that are special enough to elevate him above Tier 3. He has a hole or two in his game.6 Jalen Hurts
7 Lamar Jackson
8 Trevor Lawrence
9 Dak Prescott10 Matthew Stafford
Stafford is making his 10th consecutive appearance in Tier 2, but his 2.32 average vote was his worst since entering the 2016 season. He played only nine games in 2022 because of injury.
āI donāt know if they can protect well enough for him,ā an offensive coach said. āDoes he really give a sā enough at this stage of his career to be disciplined, or is he just going to wing it when it gets a little tight, and just force balls because he can? Remember Philip Rivers at the end in (Los Angeles) when he threw 21 interceptions and just said fā it? Thatās what Iām worried about.ā
Rivers led the NFL in interceptions twice over his final three seasons with the Chargers. Stafford led the league in 2021, but his interception rate has never been as high as Riversā highest rates.
āIf he doesnāt get hurt, he is still a top-level quarterback,ā a personnel director said. āI think he can still sling it around. The offense was not predicated on the run first even when they won the Super Bowl, so I think any time he is healthy and back there able to deal it, you can win because of him.ā
Stafford has missed about half the season twice in the past four years.
āHe still has the ability to go win a game in the 2-minute drill, regardless of the pieces around him,ā a defensive coordinator said. āI just think his body is betraying him. You hear great things about his football IQ and just hope that will allow him to maintain, where if there is any more semblance of a run game, it will help him. He just canāt be a volume thrower at this point.ā
11 Deshaun Watson
12 Kirk CousinsTier 3
A Tier 3 quarterback is a legitimate starter but needs a heavier running game and/or defensive component to win. A lower-volume dropback passing offense suits him best.13 Kyler Murray
14 Derek Carr
15 Jared Goff
16 Russell Wilson
17 Tua Tagovailoa
18 Jimmy Garoppolo
19 Daniel Jones
20 Geno Smith
21 Justin Fields
22 Ryan Tannehill
23 Mac JonesTier 4
A Tier 4 quarterback could be an unproven player (not enough information for voters to classify) or a veteran who ideally would not start all 17 games.24 Brock Purdy
25 Kenny Pickett
26 Baker Mayfield
28 Sam Howell
29 Desmond Ridder
30 Gardner Minshew
znModeratorNEW episode of 11 Personnel, and Iām joined by @StuJRams to break down everything we saw and heard from our first week at Rams camp šš
Competition at OL, whatās actually happening in WR3 and WR4 competition, CB rotations, predictions and more:
š¢ https://t.co/tHvfUkUjWb— Jourdan Rodrigue (@JourdanRodrigue) July 31, 2023
July 31, 2023 at 12:53 pm in reply to: the 2023 OL thread (w/ definitive article posted on 5/30) #144680
znModeratorRamsā 2023 to be defined by protection of Matthew Stafford, with OL play and more
Jourdan Rodrigue
IRVINE, Calif. ā In 2022, Matthew Stafford was hit more times through nine active games than any other quarterback in the Sean McVay era.
Those 63 hits (29 of them sacks), and also the hits to the ground, sent Stafford to the concussion protocol twice and resulted in a bruised spinal cord that ended his season.
āWe want to do everything in our power to make sure weāre protecting him,ā said McVay, as the Rams reported to training camp last week. āWe left him ⦠whether it was play call, scheme, there (are) a lot of different reasons ⦠We want to do a much better job of keeping him upright. Thereās a lot of things that go hand in hand with that.ā
Protecting Stafford isnāt just non-negotiable in 2023; itās a make-or-break factor for a season that could either be better than most expect, or a total disaster. Behind the veteran are Brett Rypien and Stetson Bennett, who have rotated as second-string quarterbacks in the first week of camp. The Rams drafted Bennett in the spring to eventually take over the No. 2 role, but there is a long road ahead in his development. And after the Ramsā front office gutted their defense with eyes on the 2024 and 2025 seasons, if the offense canāt score, the season will get very ugly, very quickly.
It starts with the offensive line, of course. The Ramsā position group in 2022 had 71 āadjusted games lostā to injury according to Football Outsiders, the most since the statistic was developed in 2001 (the next closest were the 2020 Eagles, with 57.1 AGL). They started 12 different combinations in their first 13 games.
Re-working this group wasnāt just about getting healthy. McVay fired previous offensive line coach Kevin Carberry, and hired up-and-comer Ryan Wendell, a former longtime Patriots offensive lineman who was most recently the assistant position coach to Aaron Kromer in Buffalo.
Wendell presents as an imposing figure, with a wild mane of a beard/hair combination and the build youād expect from a former player. But with his players, he is calm, technical and direct.
āRyan Wendell is a great coach,ā said third-year player Alaric Jackson. āHe is a great teacher. Heās not like, a ārah-rahā guy or a āscream at youā guy. But he breaks things down for you to understand overall. He makes things really simple, so you really canāt mess it up. If you do, he gives you more tools to fix it. Heās amazing. ⦠Heās very stern with you, (but) not like, aggressive. Itās more like, āCome on, I believe in you and Iām gonna push you a little bit, but I got your back as well.ā So itās not like heās trying to motherfā you or be too aggressive, but he just wants to teach you the right things.ā
Added Wendell, āAll Iām looking to try to do is to try to help these guys out. I let them know what I see, I try to give them clear, honest feedback as best I can.ā
Wendell, his assistant position coaches Zak Kromer and Nick Jones, McVay and the Ramsā front office wanted to launch into spring OTAs and training camp with competition at nearly every position (right tackle, as eight-year veteran Rob Havenstein joked, may be locked in already).
āEverybody has a lot to work on,ā Wendell said. āWe donāt slow down. The young guys learn how fast it is, and they catch up. The old guys keep refining their technique.ā
Between players getting healthy and additions via the NFL draft, the Rams have that. Rookie Steve Avila and third-year player Tremayne Anchrum, who fractured his fibula in 2022, have led the way at both guard spots in camp but will be pushed to hold those spots when pads finally go on this week. Coleman Shelton and Brian Allen, who both dealt with various injuries in 2022 that forced them to miss time, are competing for the starting center position.
Jackson and veteran lineman Joe Noteboom, who tore his Achilles in 2022, are competing at left tackle.
āItās never my guaranteed spot,ā said Noteboom, who, after surgery by Dr. Neal ElAttrache and rehab over the last year says he is feeling back to full health. āCompetition, like Sean (McVay) said, it brings out the best in people. I was never thinking anything was mine, guaranteed. It can be a positive thing, I feel like.ā
Noteboom signed a three-year, $40 million contract extension in 2022. This spring, the Rams restructured his deal to free up about $9 million in space. The question looms: Will the Rams start the player they paid, or will Jackson show enough through the rest of training camp to force the coaching staffās hand? The odd man out would fill a āswing tackleā depth role ⦠not usually an assignment for a well-compensated player, but if Jackson does earn the job the front office would have to swallow a little pride.
Jackson hurt his knee in early November while playing left tackle in replacement of Noteboom, after initially playing left guard in replacement of David Edwards (concussion). But then, Jackson was also diagnosed with blood clots and shut down for the year.
Now, Jackson says heās only working at his dominant position, tackle, that heās āhealthy as hellā (his words) and has cut his weight down to 330 pounds. The Rams are rotating Jackson and Noteboom pretty evenly in practices so far, but the intensity will increase when the pads go on this week and that could determine future rep allocation.
The coaching staff is also implementing more āgame-likeā situational work into practices to get linemen on both sides of the ball up to speed.
Future Hall of Fame defensive tackle Aaron Donald was mildly irritated to discover that, unlike past years of training camp, the offensive line is sliding its protections to double- and triple-team him in 11-on-11s as opponents would in games. This serves a dual purpose: A very inexperienced defensive line understands how to play together when more attention is on Donald, and the offensive line gets more realistic reps countering an elite and versatile interior defender.
āI was kind of mad because you want to be able to work different things,ā said Donald, drily. āBut itās realistic so I appreciate (them) doing that for me, allowing me to make my job hard at practice and making me study a little longer at night.ā
As McVay and others noted, protecting Stafford must go beyond just pass protection from the linemen specifically.
The Rams have to get back to running the ball efficiently and consistently, for example, after finishing the 2022 season ranked No. 19 in rushing DVOA.
āThe better you can run the ball, the better you can screen, the better you can do quick game, the better you can play action, the better things can open down the field, the less likely they are to (pass) rush. It all plays into it,ā receiver Cooper Kupp said.
The running backsā abilities in pass protection are an added emphasis for a team with a quarterback who isnāt considered to be mobile, just like it is the responsibility of the receivers to get off the line and create space quickly, to avoid Stafford having to hold the ball longer.
āOur passing game, nothing matters if we canāt protect Matthew,ā Wendell said. āItās our job to keep him upright. But, (we understand) that the protection unit is the entire unit. Itās not just the offensive line. We protect Matthew by workinā hard on first and second downs so that we can play ahead of the sticks, so that we donāt have long yards so heās got to hold the ball for a long time. Our receivers protect Matthew by getting open fast and catching the ball, and getting those extra yards. Everybody is a part of that protection unit. Our running backs have been all over it.
āSo, when you talk about āprotecting Matthew,ā you canāt just single out one part of football. We run the ball well, that helps us protect Matthew. All of that stuff goes into it ⦠thatās the big picture. And at the end of it, itās single guys winning their one-on-one battles. Thatās what these guys have to do every day.ā
An old āMcVay offenseā staple ā play-action passing ā may serve a role in protecting Stafford, too. In McVayās world, an average to above-average run game is needed to properly deploy play action (truly selling āthe threat of the runā).
Still, itās a concept he intentionally moved away from in 2021 after trading for Stafford.
From 2017 to 2020, the Rams ranked among the top teams in the NFL in play-action usage. But as McVay, Stafford and then-offensive coordinator Kevin OāConnell rebuilt the offense in 2021, they preferred more of a pure dropback passing game and to spread the field out wide using empty sets.
In 2022, of Staffordās 337 total dropbacks in nine games, just 73 pass attempts were out of play-action concepts from either under center or out of shotgun, according to TruMedia. Stafford completed 49 of those (67 percent) for 684 yards and 9.05 yards per attempt, significantly higher than his 6.9 yards per pass attempt average on all pass plays. Stafford had an overall EPA/pass attempt of 0.10, but with play action, he had between a 0.32-0.35 EPA/pass attempt depending on whether it was from under center or out of shotgun.
Some quarterbacks prefer empty sets because it forces a defense to ādeclareā earlier, or show its intended coverage instead of rotating after the snap, because it is immediately accounting for more known eligible receivers. Rotating coverages are especially insidious for a quarterback who uses a lot of play action under center, meaning his back flips for a brief moment to the defense as its coverage shifts.
If the Rams can run the ball effectively, theyāll see less players who can muddy up coverage looks in the defensive backfield and in turn, Stafford will have more space to manipulate downfield whether he flips his back or not. Play-action concepts, built off a consistent run game, can help Stafford move his pocket in a variety of ways, keep defenders hesitating between pass rushing and run defending just a little longer, and naturally keep a running back in the vicinity to pick up pressure. The Rams arenāt likely to move totally away from empty sets, especially with Stafford at quarterback and because of the mathematical advantages it provides in the pass game, but perhaps in 2023 their play-action frequency will increase for the sake of adding other ways to protect him.
However the Rams do it ā between scheme, play calls and the responsibility of every position group on offense ā whether they can keep Stafford off his back will define their 2023 season.
āWe all know this, itās no rocket science here. If we give Matthew an extra tick back there, heās one of the best in the world to do it,ā offensive coordinator Mike LaFleur said. āSo the whole focus is just keeping him upright, and if that means putting a few extra guys in protection, or whatever we have to do, weāre going to do it.ā
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I asked Aaron Donald about how much heās rotating (and OL rotating and sliding against him). He said that McVay warned him that this training camp, they were gonna slide protections to him constantly to simulate game situations for both himself, a v young DL and new OL.Donald chuckled a little – normally he gets to work on a few technical things in these 11-on-11s without so many slides – but clearly relishes this new challenge even this late in his career because itās forcing him to problem solve with young guys around him and find rush space.
These details are so interesting to me – yet another adjustment in onboarding and development of SO many young players, after such a long time with so many vets at the top of the depth chart.
Practice. Big throw, big sideline catch downfield between Matthew Stafford and Van Jefferson, who is back in action following Thurs rest day. Jefferson flipped the ball to the crowd but a series of hands tipped it back to the field out of excitement.
Tutu Atwell got himself plenty of space on a mid-range concept toward sideline but couldnāt hang on to the catch. Bet they go back to him again on same concept before the day is done. Just threw a similar look to Jefferson, who caught it and again flipped ball to crowd (they hung on)
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Sean McVay (Rams HC) said that yesterday seemed like Bennettās āsharpestā day yet at camp.
McVay also said that Bennett has had a really āsteadyā camp and has made his āathletic abilityā obvious.
Bennett has reported turned āmanyā heads every⦠pic.twitter.com/FWiqJ7c8Vx
— NFL Rookie Watch (@NFLRookieWatxh) July 30, 2023
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Position: Running back Personal information Born: February 24, 1996Ā (ageĀ 27)
Imperial, California, U.S.Height: 6Ā ft 0Ā in (1.83Ā m) Weight: 238Ā lb (108Ā kg) Career information High school: Imperial
(Imperial, California)College: OregonĀ (2014ā2017) NFL Draft: 2018Ā / Round:Ā 3Ā / Pick:Ā 71 Professional career
On November 20, 2017, Freeman officially accepted his invitation to play in theĀ 2018 Senior Bowl.<sup id=”cite_ref-35″ class=”reference”></sup>Ā Freeman sustained an injury and did not play in theĀ 2018 Reese’s Senior Bowl.Freeman attended theĀ NFL Scouting CombineĀ inĀ Indianapolis and performed all of the combine and positional drills. He finished ninth among all running backs in the 40-yard dash, tied for 12th in the bench press, and also finished third among his position group in the three-cone drill and short shuttle. Freeman displayed quickness and agility especially for a running back of his size and was able to impress scouts with his overall performance. On March 15, 2018, Freeman participated at Oregon’s pro day, but opted to stand on his combine numbers and only performed positional drills. At the conclusion of the pre-draft process, Freeman was projected to be a third round pick by NFL draft experts and scouts. He was ranked the eighth best running back in the draft byĀ Scouts Inc. and was ranked the ninth best running back by DraftScout.com.
Denver Broncos
TheĀ Denver BroncosĀ selected Freeman in the third round (71st overall) of theĀ 2018 NFL Draft. Freeman was the eighth running back drafted in 2018.
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On July 5, 2018, the Denver Broncos signed Freeman to a four-year,Ā $3.94 millionĀ contractĀ that includes aĀ signing bonus of $997,020.2018 season: Rookie year
Entering his first training camp, Freeman was slated to be the Broncos’ starting running back, but he faced minor competition fromĀ Devontae Booker. After a very impressive training camp and preseason, head coachĀ Vance JosephĀ officially named Freeman the starting running back to begin the season.
Freeman made his first career start and NFL regular-season debut in the Broncos’ 27ā24 victory over theĀ Seattle SeahawksĀ in the season opener. He had 15 carries for 71 rushing yards in the win.<sup id=”cite_ref-44″ class=”reference”>[44]</sup>Ā In the following game, Freeman scored his first professional rushing touchdown in the 20ā19 victory over theĀ Oakland Raiders.<sup id=”cite_ref-45″ class=”reference”></sup>Ā In Week 4, onĀ Monday Night FootballĀ against theĀ Kansas City Chiefs, Freeman had 8 carries for 67 rushing yards and a rushing touchdown for the third consecutive game.<sup id=”cite_ref-46″ class=”reference”></sup>Ā Against theĀ Arizona Cardinals in Week 7, Freeman recorded 13 carries for 37 yards before suffering an ankle injury which kept him sidelined for two games.Ā After returning from his injury, Freeman lost his starting job to fellow rookieĀ Phillip Lindsay. Overall, Freeman finished his rookie season with 132 carries for 521 rushing yards and five rushing touchdowns.<sup id=”cite_ref-48″ class=”reference”></sup>
2019 season
Heading into his second training camp, Freeman faced competition for the starting running back job fromĀ Phillip Lindsay. Although Freeman opened preseason as the Broncos’ starting running back, he was surpassed by Lindsay on the depth chart. At the conclusion of preseason, new head coachĀ Vic FangioĀ named Freeman the No. 2 running back on the depth chart behind Lindsay.
Freeman made his 2019 regular-season debut in the Broncos’ season-opening 16ā24 loss to theĀ Oakland Raiders, recording 10 carries for 56 rushing yards. The following week against theĀ Chicago BearsĀ in a 16ā14 loss, Freeman recorded 11 carries for 54 rushing yards and 5 receptions for 48 yards. In Week 3 against theĀ Green Bay Packers in a 16ā27 loss, Freeman recorded 15 carries for 63 rushing yards and four receptions for 10 yards. Despite splitting carries with Lindsay and starting the season on a strong note, Freeman struggled from Weeks 4ā8 and received less of a role on offense in the second half of the season. He finished the 2019 season with 130 carries for 496 rushing yards and three rushing touchdowns to go along with 43 receptions for 256 receiving yards and one receiving touchdown.
2020 season
With the addition of veteran running backĀ Melvin Gordon, Freeman was pushed down to the No. 3 running back role.<sup id=”cite_ref-50″ class=”reference”></sup>Ā He finished the 2020 season with 35 carries for 170 rushing yards and 12 receptions for 81 receiving yards.
2021 season
WhileĀ Phillip LindsayĀ left in free agency to sign with theĀ Houston Texans, the Broncos also signedĀ Mike BooneĀ in free agency and draftedĀ Javonte WilliamsĀ in theĀ 2021 NFL Draft. Freeman entered training camp competing for a roster spot as a backup. On September 1, 2021, Freeman was waived by the Broncos.
Carolina Panthers
On September 2, 2021, Freeman was claimed off waivers by theĀ Carolina Panthers.<sup id=”cite_ref-53″ class=”reference”></sup> He played in eight games before being released on November 8.<sup id=”cite_ref-54″ class=”reference”></sup>
Houston Texans
On November 9, 2021, Freeman was claimed off waivers by theĀ Houston Texans. He finished the 2021 season with 56 carries for 169 rushing yards and ten receptions for 77 receiving yards.<sup id=”cite_ref-56″ class=”reference”></sup>
Freeman re-signed with the Texans on March 25, 2022.On September 9, 2022, Freeman was released from the Texans and re-signed to the practice squad.<sup id=”cite_ref-58″ class=”reference”></sup> He was promoted to the active roster on December 17.<sup id=”cite_ref-59″ class=”reference”></sup>
Los Angeles Rams
On July 30, 2023, Freeman signed with theĀ Los Angeles Rams.
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Cooper Kupp when asked if it felt like there was no drop-off between him and Matthew Stafford based on plays made today:“The weird but really cool thing, it’s kind of felt like that from the first time he was here in ’21. That OTAs, it just kind of clicked…
… We came out after OTAs and we were able to throw together a little bit in July, and it just felt like, first time back, timing was just right there.”
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Watching OL and striking to me are two details about Steve Avila – certainly larger iOL build than they have targeted in the past under McVay but very very quick feet.When you watch DL/OLB, important to remember that different pass rushers will do different things as McVay/Morris have noted they expect a lot of rotations into the season. Byron Young on T2 may still eventually end up T1, just in
practice itās about working on different looks and techniques and *not* necessarily about finding every down starters.
– QB2 rotating, as I initially reported this week. Rypien knows the language while Bennett still learning. Both have been up and down, Bennett has been at his
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znModeratorStetson Bennett connects with Puka Nacua for whatās roughly a 30-yard touchdown. Ball dropped right into Pukaās hands for the over-the-shoulder catch. Great pass, great hands.
— Stu Jackson (@StuJRams) July 30, 2023
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— Los Angeles Rams (@RamsNFL) July 30, 2023
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znModerator10 Observations from Rams’ first acclimation practice of 2023 training camp: Cooper Kupp in action, youthful energy on display, plus competition at left tackle and center
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1) Competition at left tackle and center: The Rams consistently rotated Joe Noteboom and Alaric Jackson at left tackle, and Coleman Shelton and Brian Allen at center throughout Wednesday’s practice. “Whether or not those guys are always at those spots, that’s to be determined, but I do think that they’ll positively push each other and and get the most out of each other,” head coach Sean McVay said.
2) Cooooop: Wide receiver Cooper Kupp was on the field for the first acclimation practice. “It’s great having him out there,” quarterback Matthew Stafford said.
3) Going deep: Rookie quarterback Stetson Bennett showed his ability to make off-schedule plays when he scrambled right, directed wide receiver Demarcus Robinson to go deep, then hit Robinson for a long completion. It was likewise a nice grab by Robinson, who leaped and fully-extended his arms to make the catch over the defensive back in coverage.
4) Touchdown Tyler: Stafford connected with Tyler Higbee in the corner of the endzone for a touchdown on a perfectly-placed pass.
5) Youthful energy most noticeable on defense: There are lots of young playmakers in the Rams’ secondary, with Derion Kendrick andCobie Durant both shining and drawing praise from McVay for their performances on Wednesday. A pass breakup by rookie safety Tanner Ingle on a Stafford pass intended for Kupp during team drills drew especially boisterous reactions from Ingle’s defensive teammates.
6) Nacua picks up where he left off: Nacua stayed consistent with the way he performed in the spring, garnering praise from McVay for playing with aggressive hands, showing how he understood the nuances of the way they want their receivers to work the edges and separate, and showing where he fits in the concepts of the offense.
7) First look at Sony Michel in second stint with Rams: Signed after the Rams concluded their offseason program, Michel ā wearing No. 24 ā was on the field Wednesday.
8) Two feet down: Robinson also had an impressive toe-tap catch near the sideline on a pass from quarterback Brett Rypien.
9) Sideline swat: Besides Ingle’s pass breakup, another play that fired up the Rams secondary was cornerback Robert Rochell’s pass breakup on a Stafford pass intended for Kupp during team drills.
10) Closing time: Rookie safety Rashad Torrence had a perfectly-timed interception to end practice, jumping in front of Rypien’s pass over the middle during redzone work. Torrence was then followed by his defensive teammates celebrating the play as he ran down the sideline after making the play.
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Bobby Brown – Not much playing time, a suspension, so he, like Bruss is sort of a forgotten man on the DL
Byron Young, Kobie Turner and Nick Hampton – DL may be better than any of us expected. Hoping 1 of them contributes this year. 2 or more would be a great gift from the football gods.
Durant, Kendricks and Hodges-Tomlinson – I think all three will be on the field for significant time. With a good pass rush, the first two may look a lot better than last year. THT just seems like a player destined to s
znModeratorCooper Kuppās footwork pic.twitter.com/6QqWiZ7097
— Stu Jackson (@StuJRams) July 29, 2023
znModeratorBREAKING: The @XFLRenegades are adding RB Darrell Henderson to their roster, per @xflanalyst.
The former Los Angeles Ram racked up over 1,700 rushing yards and 13 touchdowns during his tenure in the NFL. Now, he heads to Arlington ahead of the #XFL 2024 season. pic.twitter.com/wjVmw5gJbC
— James Larsen (@JamesLarsenPFN) July 29, 2023
znModeratorMatthew Stafford addresses trade talks, Ramsā attempt to restructure contract
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Matthew Stafford is preparing for his 15th NFL season, his third with the Rams.
But during an offseason in which several big names departed and the roster was not restocked with stars, even his name came up.
Stafford acknowledged Wednesday that teams inquired about trading for him, and that the Rams approached him about restructuring his contract.
After the Rams won Super Bowl LVI at the end of the 2021 season, they rewarded Stafford with a four-year extension that included $120 million in guarantees and could be worth as much as $160 million. Stafford, 35, will carry a salary-cap number of $20 million this season, $49.5 million in 2024 and $50.5 million in 2025, according to overthecap.com.
That deal remains in place.
Last season, Stafford suffered a concussion and spinal injury that forced him to sit out eight of the last nine games.
He said it was āflatteringā that other teams inquired about trading for him.
āI just know that Iām really happy where I am, playing for this team, playing for this coach and playing for these fans,ā he said after practice at UC Irvine.
After a disastrous 5-12 finish last season, the Rams decided to cut spending. They traded or released numerous players, including highly paid star cornerback Jalen Ramsey, linebacker Bobby Wagner and edge rusher Leonard Floyd.
In March, Staffordās $31-million base salary for this season became fully guaranteed and he received a $26-million option bonus.
On the Athleticās ā11 Personnelā podcast, Rams chief operating officer Kevin Demoff refuted a report that the Rams asked Stafford to restructure his contract.
On Wednesday, when asked if the Rams reached out to him or his agent about renegotiating or restructuring his contract, Stafford said, āThey did, and Iāll keep all that kind of stuff and those conversations in house.ā
Stafford later was asked to clarify if the Rams requested to restructure his deal.
āI donāt know what the technical term of it is,ā he said, ābut we had conversations on that kind of stuff, and Iāll leave it at that.ā
Said coach Sean McVay: āWhen that March deadline came in terms of him being due the bonus that heās deserved and heās earned, we were all in unanimous agreement that we wanted him to be the quarterback.ā
Last year, Stafford did not throw passes during offseason workouts and was limited during training camp because of right elbow tendinitis. In nine games, he passed for 10 touchdowns with eight interceptions.
Stafford was a full participant in offseason workouts and appeared to be at full strength Wednesday in the Ramsā first training camp workout.
āI feel a lot better physically,ā he said. āI feel really healthy compared to where I was last year. I was able to get the work in that I wanted to get in coming into this, and that makes it a whole lot more fun for me.ā
znModeratorSean Payton destroyed Nathaniel Hackett for āone of the worst coaching jobsā in NFL history https://t.co/medARDQHGC
— Sports Illustrated (@SInow) July 27, 2023
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Stetson Bennett just rolled out to his right, and, off schedule, launched a deep ball Demarcus Robinson caught ā using full extension of his arms ā over the DB. Bennett had improvised and gestured to Robinson to go downfield.Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigueBen Skowronek and Joe Noteboom, who were both limited or DNP in OTAs, both out here for first day of camp. Van Jefferson and Cooper Kupp as well. TE Hunter Long (groin) and OL Warren McClendon (knee) officially placed on PUP.Q: Akers said yesterday he added weight in the offseason and wanted to keep his weight up. Do you think this is another piece (like the bigger linemen you noted) that shows where the Rams might go in the run game this year?.Jourdan Rodrigue: Hard to keep weight up during and post Achilles and I think itās in part a strength and durability thing BUT to your point I do expect changes in the run game***from Rodrigue, https://theathletic.com/4719841/2023/07/25/rams-sean-mcvay-training-camp/?source=emp_shared_article.This team used to be constructed to specifically contend for Super Bowls; now it is built to set up a resource-rich 2024, and simply do its best in 2023 (and even the consequences for failure arenāt really that bad this year, as opposed to others ⦠because they still have their 2024 first-round pick, for now).
Practices will look different ā not just because they are scheduled for a little later in the day than in recent years. When the bulk of the Ramsā key contributing players were veterans, a side effect to having all of that experience and skill was that they couldnāt (and frankly shouldnāt) push those players to expend the same type of physical energy as they would if they were younger. While every playerās output will be managed by the athletic training staff, aside from injuries itās likely that fewer players will be on pitch counts or taking āvet daysā than weāve seen in the past. Installation work, such as what was heavily emphasized in OTAs, can even be faster and more competitive because there is less ācareerā wear and tear limiting the reps of certain players. Everything has to have an edge to it, because a lot of young guys have to learn a lot, andĀ quick.
.… the Rams considered/discussed bringing in a veteran pass rusher when assessing post-draft (read: cheaper) roster additions, McVay confirmed Tuesday. That group features mostly rookies, plus new-to-the-position Hoecht and second-year player Daniel Hardy. McVay said the staff want to see who among the young players emerges over the next couple of months (and noted the teamās financial limitations).⢠they added veteran cornerbackĀ Ahkello Witherspoon on what a team source said was a one-year deal. āWith Ahkello, Iāve always respected his game from afar,ā McVay added. āHeās got length, heās got a lot of the traits and characteristics that youāre looking for. ⦠I know heās had some injury things, but when he played he did a great job in Pittsburgh. Both Raheem (Morris) and Aubrey (Pleasant) really liked what they saw on tape with him. Iām excited to be around him ⦠heāll add some depth, and hopefully continue to push where we find the best guys for the secondary that (will) be a younger group. Heās got some veteran experience.ā
⢠Cobie Durant noted that in his second season, heāll be playing more of the āstarā position ā the multi-faceted situational role within the defenseās coverage philosophy that can feature him in the slot, as a safety, or as an outside cornerback. Because the star is matchup-based, Durantās film responsibilities will increase from the āmatchā studies the Rams already do on defense. In the best version of their system (which suffered as their offense did in 2022), they study opponentsā pass-game tendencies and route combinations, which obviously change week to week, in order to āmatchā them out of a zone pre-snap look. The starās versatility intends to either create an āunavoidableā player on the field who can make plays on the ball, or to force the quarterbackās hand into a defensive mathematical advantage based on where they are aligned.
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from Rodrigue, https://theathletic.com/4725240/2023/07/27/rams-training-camp-opening-day-analysis/?source=emp_shared_article
⢠Veteran right tackle Rob Havenstein has stressed that along the offensive line there is competition for every spot. But two specific position battles that have already clearly heated up are at left tackle, where Joe Noteboom and Alaric Jackson will rotate to determine the starter there, and center, where Coleman Shelton and Brian Allen have rotated since the spring.
Jackson mostly took starting reps at left tackle in the spring, other than the last week of OTAs (he was excused for personal reasons), while Noteboom was a limited participant as he continued to heal from an Achilles tear suffered last season.
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