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znModeratorHighlights: Ram Top Plays vs. Cardinals | Cooper Kupp’s 1st TD of 2023, Aaron Donald’s Sack & More
znModeratorKyren Williams BULLIES his way into the end zone đ€pic.twitter.com/HQQSXXinak
— LA Rams Nation (@RamsNationCP) October 15, 2023
znModeratorRoquan Smith is processing the game at a different level than 99% of people that play the sport.
Killed the 2-min warning himself by letting the runner get up. Preventer offense from getting set and e getting an extra play off pic.twitter.com/JISFmOvQLR
— Spencer Schultz (@ravens4dummies) October 15, 2023
znModeratorWhere would we be without this man #RamsHouse pic.twitter.com/tylp2jBSzD
— CamâšSBLVI CHAMPIONS (@RamsWRLD_) October 15, 2023
October 15, 2023 at 10:26 pm in reply to: reporters, twitter etc. on ARZ game … + the big articles #146146
znModeratorJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigueJust asked Rob Havenstein about the conversation about adjustments at halftime to set the tone on the ground in second half. âWasnât so much about âadjustmentsâ as it was about making a statement,â said Havenstein, emphatically..Great attitude from Quentin Lake when walking up to him in locker room postgame, asked to talk through his play. Grins, and goes – âwhich one?âOctober 15, 2023 at 8:19 pm in reply to: reporters, twitter etc. on ARZ game … + the big articles #146145
znModeratora drive made up of ALL RUNS đ
pic.twitter.com/VOdHQTN6jp— brittany (@brittany_bets) October 15, 2023
znModeratorJets beat the Eagles after being down 14-3 in the 2nd quarter.
znModeratorMohamad SafamhdksafaAn intern whispered the word “terrorist” to me as we entered the gate today, and he also got to find out that I’m his boss during an interview. It was really fun!
znModeratorHoward Balzer@HBalzer721Cardinals face a Rams pass offense today that has 20 plays of 20+ yards and Puka Nacua has 10. Cardinals have allowed 13 with 11 in the second half.
znModeratordobbs will be the 7th cardinals qb to start a game against the rams in the mcvay era – the rams have started 3 different qbs against the cardinals in that time
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goff— roberto clemente (@rclemente2121) October 15, 2023
znModeratorOchaun Mathis played just 10 snaps in his debut. However, he made an impact with two pressures and looked deserving of more playing time.https://t.co/7s1CKx1tHf
— Blaine Grisak đ (@bgrisakTST) October 15, 2023
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Ochaun Mathis play #4 pic.twitter.com/CsD9gOZJfG
— Blaine Grisak đ (@bgrisakTST) October 15, 2023
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Ochaun Mathis play #9 pic.twitter.com/9yL4avaUSv
— Blaine Grisak đ (@bgrisakTST) October 15, 2023
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Ochaun Mathis play #10 pic.twitter.com/efYBJjHKpH
— Blaine Grisak đ (@bgrisakTST) October 15, 2023
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znModeratorIâve been to a few Rams/Cardinals games but the 2018 home opener was nothing short of a statement! Putting the league on notice of the offensive fire power. With a healthy & prime Woods, Cooks, Kupp, and Gurley, Goff was on fire and no one in the league could compete with us pic.twitter.com/PaSdpr4RHF
— RAMS ON FILM (@RamsOnFilm) September 23, 2022
znModeratorItâs hard to gauge Mathisâ game in 10 snaps, but with two pressures in 10 snaps, his 14.3 percent pressure percentage ranked ninth in the NFL in Week 5. Obviously, itâs a small sample, but Mathis 14.3 win percentage also leads the Rams edge rushers.
znModeratorUnless someone can post a link to a site, that I can watch the game, the only option I have, is to watch on NFL.com with the squiggly lines.
ER is the guy who knows that stuff. Ask him in the chat tomorrow.
October 14, 2023 at 10:47 pm in reply to: Just a thread for different kindsa interesting things #146120
znModeratorCorny presentation but interesting concept.
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znModeratorJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigueI’d caution there is obviously a ton of situational context involved but bald numbers tho per TruMedia, when Rams are up at least 7 they run on 58% of snaps, T-6th with 49ers. When Rams are down at least 7 they run on 16.3% of snaps, third-lowest..roberto clemente@rclemente2121pass ratios thru wk5combined 1st & 2nd downs (reg)
trailing by 3
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rams 58.6%
chiefs 83.3%
lions 66.7%trailing by 7
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rams 63.3%
49ers 71.4%
dolphins 62.5%trailing by 10
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rams 96.3%
eagles 80.0%
lions 75.0%
jets 48.8%
znModerator.@Eagles @iosuaopeta55 v @RamsNFL @AaronDonald97 had an excellent gameplan and executed it all day v the AD99. #BaldysBreakdowns pic.twitter.com/m8zkQUQvS5
— Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) October 9, 2023
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znModeratorRams star receiver Cooper Kupp passed the first test. Now, will the hamstring hold up the rest of the season?
https://t.co/HdmvhmZ1ph— Gary Klein (@LATimesklein) October 13, 2023
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znModeratorWell he’s a young head coach.
Most head coaches are hired after they’ve already had a kid or 2 or 3.
I’m not sure anyone has been in this situation before.
But I would say, he has his priorities straight.
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znModerator.@JourdanRodrigue tweeted this stat out recently and our minds were blown. The Ramsâ offense stalls in deficit situations because they become one of the most one dimensional teams in the league. pic.twitter.com/G6g3ELWqat
— Rams Brothers (@RamsBrothers) October 13, 2023
znModeratorJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodriguePer McVay, ILB Ernest Jones (knee) and Joe Noteboom (groin) are questionable for Sunday’s game vs. Cardinals. Team will see how it goes today for Jones. If he can’t go, starter Jordan Fuller has experience calling the defense as do a few others.
znModeratorRobert Woods made this amazing 48 yard play out of seemingly nowhere against Arizona in 2019.Â
I always said that while Woods didn’t really have the build of an RB, he ran after the catch like an RB and not like a WR–he had the vision and stop n go instincts of a true RB. Not very many WRs have that, to be honest, or at least not to the extent that Woods did.
znModeratorpff – thru week 5
stafford grades out as the 4th best qb when he's kept clean, but nosedives to #25 when pressured – only 4 qbs rank top 10 when kept clean and when pressured: j.goff, j.allen, t.lawrence and l.jackson. pic.twitter.com/Mt29GL4dSC
— roberto clemente (@rclemente2121) October 13, 2023
znModeratorthe rams rank #11 in % of plays that gained 10 or more yards, and #10 in fewest % of plays allowed to gain 10 yards or more: pic.twitter.com/SH7lAcvOGq
— roberto clemente (@rclemente2121) October 13, 2023
znModeratorJust a reminder, Jason Kelce is the Eagles’ highly regarded starting center.
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âHeâs the best defensive player Iâve ever seenâ Jason Kelce has some very high praise for Aaron Donald đđœ pic.twitter.com/X0WDojRh6s
— Rams Tapes đ„¶ (@RamsTapes) October 12, 2023
October 12, 2023 at 6:15 pm in reply to: reporters, twitter, etc. on Eagles game. + the “big articles” #146092
znModeratorThree Rams things: Whatâs up with the offense in the second half?
..THOUSAND OAKS, Calif. â In a Los Angeles Rams season that will be unpredictable, at times chaotic and always interesting, weâre going to learn a lot about the young and older players (and their coaches) each week.Weâll put the most interesting or relevant of these developments here, in nicely organized sections. Just for you!
This week, some of the bad patterns the Rams have fallen into on either side of the ball are in focus.Plus, I introduce a new section: âKnows Ball Anonymous,â where I seek out a coach, player, analyst, scout or executive to talk me through one behind-the-scenes moment of their choosing, anonymously. These could be Rams-specific people and topics, or perspective gleaned beyond the portable trailers at Cal Lutheran University ⊠the point is youâll hear from the people who know ball about something they find interesting.
Whatâs up with the second-half offense?
The Rams repeatedly see success on their opening (and scripted) drives, but have largely struggled in the second halves of games this season.
In fact, the only time the Rams have scored at least seven points in both halves this season was their Week 1 win at Seattle (I am not counting overtime points at Indianapolis). For that reason, I will extrapolate the significant statistics from Weeks 2-5:
Quarters 1-2 average:Â 44.5 percent early down rush rate, 0.42 EPA/dropback in first quarters and 0.20 EPA/dropback in second quarters, 194.3 yards/first half, 139.1 passing yards/first half, 12.3 first downs, 46.5 percent third-down conversion rate, 55.3 rushing yards.
Quarters 3-4 average:Â 24 percent early down rush rate (contextually, some of this is within a deficit but see additional statistics below), -0.46 EPA/dropback in third quarters and -0.10 EPA/dropback in fourth quarters, 135.5 yards/second half, 100 passing yards/second half, 8.6 first downs, 22.2 percent third-down conversion rate (including 11.1 percent third-down conversion rate in third quarters), 35.5 rushing yards.
Yikes!
âIâve seen a lot of really encouraging glimpses and now the challenge is, how do we accelerate our ability to play at a consistently high level, one quarter, two quarters, oh and then by the way, third and the fourth quarter so that weâre able to finish out games?â McVay said. âThereâs always a thought process on our end of what (it looks) like to emphasize those things within a practice setting? And then how does it ultimately come to life? But these guys are coachable as hell. They respond the right way. Theyâve got a great demeanor about themselves.â
Star receiver Cooper Kupp, who returned from a hamstring injury last week, spent his time on injured reserve as a âcoachâ of sorts. I asked him postgame on Sunday for his analysis from that perspective and from a playerâs perspective about those half-to-half issues.âAt the end of the day, it comes down to us executing. You see a lot of stuff in the first half, and you kind of see the patterns, see what youâre getting. They make some adjustments, we gotta come out and we gotta be able to adapt and respond to that,â Kupp said. âIâm not saying coaches, Iâm saying as players. You gotta run your routes and understand that things are gonna be different. You might be running the same route, but theyâre playing it differently. Second half, they made some adjustments. (We need to) try to give Sean, give Matthew the widest range of successful outcomes no matter what look youâre getting and I think we gotta do a better job of that.â
Last week I co-wrote, with brilliant co-worker Ted Nguyen, a deep dive into how McVay has evolved his offense once again with both borrowed and invented innovations and schematic wrinkles. When itâs clicking, itâs really impressive stuff.
At the same time, itâs fair to keep track of things like the above, which make the Rams an incomplete offense despite their schematic potential.
(And, before I dive into the comment section âŠÂ yes, I did already write about repeated issues the Ramsâ defense has had in late-clock scenarios.)
Nitpicking situational decisionsÂ
Iâm picking at details here. I am not arguing that the decisions below lost the game. However, because there is some inconsistency in the Ramsâ late-down decision-making, I think itâs fair to track those (and ask about the theory behind them).
With 10:07 left in the fourth quarter Sunday, the Rams had a fourth-and-5 on their own 42-yard line. The Eagles were up 20-14, and while the Ramsâ defense was, to that point in the second half, not allowing touchdowns â they also were not getting off the field quickly (and their offense wasnât sustaining drives). McVay opted to punt, after calling three pass plays (two incomplete, one got five yards to Kupp). He said on Monday he didnât consider going for it at that time, because it was âstill a one-possession gameâ at that point.I asked McVay, who more than once lauded the Eaglesâ ability to be a possession offense (meaning they are capable of keeping possession for extra-long amounts of time), was there any discussion about being more aggressive through the game on late downs to try to keep the ball out of their hands? The Rams did go for, and get, a fourth-down conversion en route to a touchdown in the first quarter, which McVay cited in his response.
âMy thought process was, on the third down and 5, we got the exact look that we wanted (and) werenât able to get an execution in that instance right there (it was an incomplete deep timing throw to Kupp),â he said, â(and) I felt like our defense got a couple stops that were key and critical (to that point). ⊠Based on the way that Ethan (Evans) had punted and where we were at, I didnât want to give them possible field position right there where they could make it a nine-point game. In hindsight, knowing that theyâd go down and end up converting to a field goal, of course. But in the moment ⊠I felt like that was best for our team.â
The Eagles responded with a 10-play, 72-yard field goal drive that ate 5:49 off the clock.
On their next drive, which started with 4:06 left in the game, McVay and the Rams had to go for it, this time on fourth-and-12 from their own 41-yard line. Their chip protection (help for rookie right tackle Warren McClendon, suddenly in the game after an injury to Rob Havenstein), failed and Matthew Stafford was sacked for a 13-yard loss.
Pressure under pressure
The Rams rank No. 19 in pressure rate, and are blitzing at a 25.3 percent rate. They are also No. 19 in âtime to pressure,â according to TruMedia (the amount of time on average it takes for them to get pressure) at 2.46 seconds, but are fourth-slowest in the NFL to get to sacks, at 3.45 seconds. Contextually the latter can include a few different variables, including facing mobile quarterbacks the last two weeks (Jalen Hurts and Anthony Richardson both were able to extend plays; Hurts especially did so on third-and-long) and cornerbacks covering receivers tighter, for longer.
They are No. 21 in the NFL in pass-rush win rate, ESPNâs metric to assess pass rushing. That number is often even skewed more positively because of Aaron Donaldâs own statistics. Donald ranks No. 8 among interior defenders in pass-rush win rate, despite seeing double teams on 60 percent of plays. Donald is also tied for No. 8 in total pressures with 23, and once again is keeping company in the top 10 among outside pass rushers as an interior defender.
No other Rams defender (outside linebacker or interior defensive lineman) cracks the top 20 in this metric. Rookie outside linebacker Byron Young is tied for No. 19 in the NFL in total pressures, however, with 20.
Aaron Donald is double-teamed 60 percent of the time when heâs on the field. (Trevor Ruszkowski / USA Today)
âI think thatâs a case-by-case (evaluation),â McVay said this week, after I asked him if he was satisfied with the Ramsâ pressure production. âThereâs so many layers to that question ⊠There have been some instances where weâve rushed really well. Sometimes thatâs bringing four, sometimes thatâs bringing five. Thereâs been some instances where weâve gotta keep the cup on the quarterback, especially over the last couple of weeks with some of these guys that can extend plays. ⊠I definitely know this, I know that those are plays and specific situations that weâre capable of executing at a more consistent rate. I think that has been reflected in the first month of the season, and yesterday was not the execution that we expect.â
The Rams have not been shy about exploring the pass-rusher market ahead of each seasonâs trade deadline, and this spring also discussed adding interior defensive line help.
But McVay suggested Wednesday that they wonât be as active ahead of this yearâs deadline as in seasons past.
âYou kind of have to have some resources and different things like that for those to be options,â he said, with a dry smile. âI donât know that those conversations will be as prevalent as maybe in years past.â
Knows Ball AnonymousÂ
âI was thinking about our O-line, especially over the first four weeks. ⊠For a group that, with so many injuries and stuff last year, nobody really knew what it would look like, I feel like they are doing an unbelievable job, specifically in pass protection. You look across the board, Alaric Jackson has had to face some of the best pass rushers in the league the first five weeks. Steve Avila, who is a rookie, playing out of his mind. Coleman Shelton, who is just an unbelievable athlete. Look at what heâs doing in the screen game! I think his ability out in space is the best Iâve seen. ⊠I feel like his timing has always been impeccable, knowing when to release and how to take a right angle. Thatâs so hard for those big guys out in space. ⊠At right guard, you know, weâve kind of moved around a little but Joe (Noteboom) was doing an incredible job. Dot (Kevin Dotson) coming in, then Rob (Havenstein) has been Rob.
âThe whole group in general, itâs not like weâve been calling a bunch of quick-game. Weâre calling five-step dropback passes, weâre calling seven-step dropback passes. Those guys are holding up, man. ⊠Weâve provided some chip help, I think we do a good job in our play pass of getting eight hands on guys and handling the fronts that weâve faced. Weâve faced some unbelievable fronts. ⊠You go back and look at last week, what Philly does when they bring out their âpennyâ looks. They put their five best rushers on the field. Youâll get Brandon Graham right over the center. Jalen Carter and Jordan Davis as the three-techs, sometimes theyâll put (Derek) Barnett there as the three-tech. Youâve got No. 94 and (Haason) Reddick on the edge. Thatâs about as hard as youâre gonna get in the NFL. I can specifically think of a few dropback passes we had last week, weâre holding up. ⊠Even on some of the plays where maybe (the offensive line is) getting beat, itâs the strain at the end of it where Matthew (Stafford) is getting just a click longer to stand in there and throw and theyâre keeping hands off of him. Thatâs what really makes the difference in this league, that extra fight.â â Knower of BallÂ
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