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  • November 30, 2023 at 10:10 am #147106
    zn
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    November 30, 2023 at 10:50 am #147109
    zn
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    November 30, 2023 at 1:35 pm #147114
    Zooey
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    According to PFF, OL Kevin Dotson is currently tied for the top-graded offensive lineman (88.9)

    And they got him for nothing.

    Hopefully, he will re-sign.

    November 30, 2023 at 11:50 pm #147123
    zn
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    JAKE ELLENBOGEN@JKBOGEN
    All-time sacks per game (Min.90 games) for DT

    1. Aaron Donald 0.728
    2. Alan Page 0.681
    3. John Randle 0.628
    4. Keith Millard 0.624
    5. Alex Karras 0.621
    6. Chris Jones 0.620
    7. Roger Brown 0.572
    8. Larry Brooks 0.569
    9. Tom Sestak 0.542
    10. Otis Sistrunk 0.541

    I also calculated the all-time sacks per game which includes unofficial sacks counted by PFR: (Min. 90 Games)

    1. DE TJ Watt 0.929
    2. DE Myles Garrett 0.921
    3. DE Deacon Jones 0.908
    4. DE Reggie White 0.853
    5. DE Mark Gastineau 0.785
    6. OLB DeMarcus Ware 0.778
    7. OLB Lawrence Taylor 0.772
    8. DE Claude Humphrey 0.760
    9. DE JJ Watt 0.758
    10. DE Jack Youngblood 0.750
    11. OLB Derrick Thomas 0.749
    12. OLB Von Miller 0.731
    13. DT Aaron Donald 0.728
    14. DE Jared Allen 0.727
    15. DE Chandler Jones 0.727
    16. DE Coy Bacon 0.725
    17. DE Dexter Manley 0.724
    18. DE Al Baker 0.724
    19. DE Harvey Martin 0.722
    20. DE Joey Bosa 0.720

    TJ Watt and Myles Garrett … Wow. Aaron Donald is the ONLY defensive tackle on here…

    December 1, 2023 at 1:38 pm #147143
    wv
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    As we have noted before Larry Brooks was one of the most ‘unknown’ great players of the modern era.

    (I would not have guessed Alex Karras was that high on the list.

    Wonder where Merlin ranked on that list.   He was mainly a run-stopper in that defense, i think.   Just hold the line and wait for Deacon to make trouble.

     

    Aaron Donald 0.728
    2. Alan Page 0.681
    3. John Randle 0.628
    4. Keith Millard 0.624
    5. Alex Karras 0.621
    6. Chris Jones 0.620
    7. Roger Brown 0.572
    8. Larry Brooks 0.569

     

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    December 1, 2023 at 4:01 pm #147145
    zn
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    December 1, 2023 at 4:02 pm #147146
    zn
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    wv wrote:

    As we have noted before Larry Brooks was one of the most ‘unknown’ great players of the modern era. (I would not have guessed Alex Karras was that high on the list.

    That’s all here:

    The NFL’s All-Time Career Sack Leaders, Updated with John Turney’s pre-1982 Numbers: https://theramshuddle.com/topic/all-time-career-sack-leaders-updated-with-john-turneys-pre-1982-numbers/

    If you go through that thread, you’ll find this:

    Here are the top 12, including both official and unofficial stats. I do career sacks, not just sacks with the Rams.

    Deacon Jones – 173.5
    Kevin Greene – 160
    Jack Youngblood – 151.5
    Coy Bacon – 130
    Kevin Carter – 104.5
    Fred Dryer – 103
    Merlin Olsen – 94
    Leonard Little – 87.5
    Robert Quinn – 80.5
    Larry Brooks – 74.5
    Aaron Donald – 72
    Chris Long – 70

    That’s from 2020 in June before the season, so obviously the numbers on Donald are wrong. Anyway, the thing about Brooks is, he was getting sacks very early in his career. As a rookie in fact. Over the years, injuries took a lot away from him.

    The wikipedia article on Brooks is full of details like that including the sack numbers in his early years.

    December 1, 2023 at 4:26 pm #147149
    zn
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    December 1, 2023 at 4:47 pm #147150
    Billy_T
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    It surprises me that the Deacon wasn’t at the top for most sacks per game, though he’s really close.

    He did lead in several other categories:

    Most 15+ sack seasons — all-time
    Deacon Jones — 6

    Most 20+ sack seasons — all-time
    Deacon Jones — 3

    Most times leading NFL in sacks in a season
    Deacon Jones — 5
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    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/deacon-jones-by-the-numbers-unofficial-stats-show-rams-legend-was-one-of-most-dominant-defensive-ends-ever/

     

    Still my favorite Ram, evah.

    December 1, 2023 at 5:10 pm #147151
    Zooey
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    zn wrote:

    Deacon Jones – 173.5

    Kevin Greene – 160

    Jack Youngblood – 151.5

    Coy Bacon – 130

    Kevin Carter – 104.5

    Fred Dryer – 103

    Merlin Olsen – 94

    Leonard Little – 87.5

    Robert Quinn – 80.5

    Larry Brooks – 74.5

    Aaron Donald – 72

    Chris Long – 70

    Here’s the thing about that.

    Youngblood, Dryer, Olsen, and Brooks played on the same line. As most people here know.

    December 1, 2023 at 6:04 pm #147154
    InvaderRam
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    Zooey wrote:

    According to PFF, OL Kevin Dotson is currently tied for the top-graded offensive lineman (88.9)

     

    among rams olinemen or all olinemen?

    December 1, 2023 at 6:32 pm #147157
    Zooey
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    InvaderRam wrote:

    mong rams olinemen or all olinemen?

    That’s the highest score of any offensive lineman. Only Penei Sewell (OT) Lions has the same score: 88.9.

    Every other OL in the league has a lower rating than the two of them.

    December 1, 2023 at 7:15 pm #147158
    zn
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    InvaderRam wrote:

    among rams olinemen or all olinemen?

    That’s a ranking for all NFL lineman. He’s not just the top guard, he’s tied for the top OL.

    December 1, 2023 at 8:32 pm #147162
    InvaderRam
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    very cool.

     

    rams gotta re-sign him. him and avila. nice. then draft a left tackle.

    December 1, 2023 at 10:53 pm #147165
    zn
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    December 1, 2023 at 11:57 pm #147167
    zn
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    InvaderRam wrote:
    Zooey wrote:

    According to PFF, OL Kevin Dotson is currently tied for the top-graded offensive lineman (88.9)

    among rams olinemen or all olinemen?

    All OL.

    I apologize, Zooey, it looks like I stepped on your response to Invader. I was just drunk on enthusiasm for Dotson’s ascent.

    December 2, 2023 at 1:20 am #147169
    zn
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    Los Angeles Rams PR@TheLARamsPR
    The Rams have held three straight opponents to fewer than 21 points for the first time since Weeks 5-7 of the 2021 season.
    December 2, 2023 at 11:10 am #147175
    Zooey
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    zn wrote:

    I apologize, Zooey, it looks like I stepped on your response to Invader. I was just drunk on enthusiasm for Dotson’s ascent.

    Well, I spoke to my attorney about that, and he said that since you are the one who posted the tweet with that information originally, and I merely quoted it, it didn’t matter that invader addressed me with the question. You arguably had a priori rights to answer it.

    So I was going to just drop it. But since I now have your apology in hand, indicating you know you did something wrong, I will call him back on Monday.

    In the meantime, you will see that my answer appeared in two forms, 4 hours apart. That’s because the one that appears later didn’t post on account of having too many nested quotes, or images, or whatever hangs up posts, so I just revised the post to reduce the amount of code, and the second post got through immediately.

    I just mention that in case you would like to delete one of them. (My attorney and I will be very interested to see which one you delete).

    December 2, 2023 at 12:05 pm #147177
    zn
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    Zooey wrote:

    I just mention that in case you would like to delete one of them. (My attorney and I will be very interested to see which one you delete).

    And what team does your attorney follow? Hmmm?

    Given the timing of all this, he sounds suspiciously like a Cleveland fan who is still bitter about the Rams leaving that city for LA in 1946.

     

    December 2, 2023 at 12:07 pm #147178
    zn
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