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    Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
    New Rams kicker Lucas Havrisik has a connection to assistant special teams coach Jeremy Springer from time at U of A. He also spent training camp in Indianapolis with former Rams kicker Matt Gay.
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    in reply to: Rams tweets etc. …. 10/23 – 10/28 #146409
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    Blaine Grisak@bgrisakTST
    In quarters 1-3, the Rams defense allowed a success rate of 36.4%. In the fourth quarter, that rose to 71.4% Offense had a 44.4% success rate in quarters 1-3. In the fourth quarter, that dropped to 22.2%. Fourth quarter collapse from both sides.
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    Rams Brothers@RamsBrothers
    Tough loss to swallow. But, in a “re-tooling” year, the rollercoaster was fully expected. Just a matter of avoiding the headache it can cause. 3 missed kicks, a bad play-call coming out of the half and poorly timed penalties… and still an opp to win
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    Sosa Kremenjas@QBsMVP
    Romans 8:18 “I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed in us.” Keep pressing.
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    Defense truly needs to get bigger and stronger at the nose and DT opposite Donald.

    Turner was playing nose a large percentage of the time. He was replacing Brown III, who’s on IR.

    from https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2023/10/10/rams-bobby-brown-injury-defensive-line-depth/

    At 324 pounds, Bobby Brown III was the only defensive lineman over 300 pounds to start the season and in Sunday’s loss to the Philadelphia Eagles, their starting nose tackle went down with a knee injury. Brown is expected to miss 5-7 weeks with an MCL sprain, leaving the Rams without their space-eating defensive lineman.

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    Rodrigue: Rams can’t stop kicking themselves into their own way

    By Jourdan Rodrigue

    https://theathletic.com/4987694/2023/10/22/rams-steelers-sean-mcvay-brett-maher/?source=emp_shared_article

    INGLEWOOD, Calif. — The things this team does to itself, man.

    Los Angeles Rams kicker Brett Maher left seven points on the board because of two missed field goals and a missed extra point. Coach Sean McVay couldn’t challenge a questionable spot on the field after a fourth down just ahead of the two-minute warning because he was out of timeouts. A defense that had played really well in the first three quarters had discipline and alignment breakdowns in the final frame. A quarterback playing some of the overall best football in the league right now threw a costly interception on the first scrimmage play in the third quarter that turned into seven points and also didn’t complete a single pass in the fourth quarter …

    … and the Pittsburgh Steelers beat the Rams 24-17. Or, seven points.

    “There were a lot of things that we didn’t do to be able to finish this game,” McVay said. “Execution on teams, whether it be some execution offensively where you set yourself behind the sticks. Defensively, you can’t have 12 men on the field (and) you’ve got to be aligned in the right spots in some critical third downs. They were able to finish the game, we weren’t.”

    Here’s McVay on Maher, specifically: “We’ll look at it, and we’ll see. He’s got to be better. That’s seven points that were missed out on, that were key and critical for the momentum of the game (and) the type of game that it was. Those were tough ones, today.”

    A crestfallen Maher added postgame that he isn’t injured or dealing with anything that could have explained the errors, he just couldn’t find “it” on Sunday.

    It wasn’t just that Maher missed the field goals, a 53-yard try in the first quarter and a 51-yard try in the third quarter. It’s also that the Steelers then got the ball back on shorter fields. Of the six playable possessions bookended by those misses, the Steelers scored a field goal and a touchdown on each of the shorter fields (starting from their 43-yard line and their 41-yard line, respectively). Three resulted in punts.

    The other scoring possession within those bookends was off of Matthew Stafford’s third-quarter interception.

    Here’s McVay on the interception, in which Steelers star outside linebacker T.J. Watt jumped Stafford’s throw: “(That) was just a killer. It was a really poor decision, I put our guys in a tough spot right there and that one is gonna eat at me. … Bottom line is, we had hitches on the outside and a little option route from the three-spot, seams at the two-spot. Thought, we obviously thought it was going to be a single-high (safety). (Steelers cornerback) Levi Wallace rolled up as a cloud. Got Cooper (Kupp) working an option on the mike (linebacker) and you don’t feel that overlap from the hook player when Watt ended up dropping out of there. That’s what led to the turnover.”

    Stafford said he “obviously” didn’t see Watt.

    “They had a nice coverage call for what we had going,” he said, “that being said, I gotta be smart with the ball.”

    In about as sudden-change scenario as possible, and defending from their own 7-yard line, the Rams gave up a touchdown and the Steelers led 10-9. But it was still early in the third quarter! The Rams even answered Pittsburgh’s own touchdown drive with one of their own, plus a two-point conversion.

    But in the fourth quarter, the Los Angeles defense fell apart while the offense was shut out, rushing for just 20 net yards while Stafford didn’t complete a single pass of his four attempts … and the Rams ran only eight total plays.

    “We always talk about, ‘We’ve got to do our stuff better than they do their stuff, for longer,’” said outside linebacker Michael Hoecht, who had two sacks, two tackles for loss and a forced fumble. “It didn’t shake out that way. … Over the course of a game, you can probably point to 10, 15 different things that need to shake your way in order to win (and) you need to win those 10 or 15.”

    The Rams’ defense allowed 14 fourth-quarter points after holding Pittsburgh to just 10 through the initial three quarters. There was also a glaring error halfway through the fourth quarter when a substitution miscommunication involving the secondary led to a 5-yard penalty only added to other alignment issues and missed tackles and assignments. The Steelers scored two plays after the penalty.

    “We got to do a better job of communicating the personnel changes,” McVay said. “You can’t give them five yards when they are in those scoring positions.”

    Suddenly it was the Steelers who were moving the ball, up 24-17 despite the Rams outgaining them 341 yards of offense to 257 through that go-ahead touchdown.

    The Rams didn’t — couldn’t — answer after that. It was the Steelers who had the chance to put the game away, and did.

    Here’s McVay, on what could have been a very reasonable challenge, after game officials placed and then measured the ball after a fourth-and-1 Kenny Pickett sneak the Rams believed they had stopped short: “It doesn’t matter what I think. That was the spot they made. … I’m not gonna sit here and make any excuses about stuff that didn’t go down. Those plays shouldn’t have come down to that, if we executed like we were capable of. You guys saw the same stuff that I did. It doesn’t do any good. That’s what was called, and that’s what we have to be able to live with.”

    Still, if McVay had a timeout left he could have challenged the official’s spot as the Steelers ran the play with 2:24 left on the clock. If it had occurred within the two-minute warning, it would have automatically been reviewed. So while McVay won’t dwell on one play’s impact on the overall game, there’s a real alternate scenario in which Stafford and the Rams’ offense got the ball back on about their 39-yard line, with two minutes to play. They weren’t moving the ball in the fourth quarter, no. But Stafford is also historically a pretty reliable operator in exactly those potential game-winning scenarios in crunch time.

    “To not have an opportunity to have that be clarified, it sucks,” said veteran cornerback Ahkello Witherspoon.

    Running back Darrell Henderson rejoined the team five days before Sunday and said he found out he would start pretty much on game day (Henderson was introduced on the video board as a starter during pregame warmups, which is planned somewhat in advance). He got a little more advance notice on his role, a planned series-by-series rotation with veteran running back Royce Freeman after the week of practice, in which Henderson was thrown into as many reps as possible between the actual offense and the scout team to make sure his game conditioning was OK after so many weeks away from football.

    But the 127-yard rushing effort between the two backs — which included a couple of nice pressure pick-ups in pass protection, including Henderson’s blitz blocking on a third-and-12 that allowed Stafford to scamper for a touchdown — as well as a 154-yard monster of a game from rookie receiver Puka Nacua were wasted on a team that couldn’t get out of its own way, has not gotten out of its own way, and seven games in is drawing skepticism that it ever will.

    “The biggest challenge (has been) the consistency through four quarters,” McVay said. “The complementary football. You look at it, there are some really good opportunities for us to be able to kind of just run away with some games or be able to kind of extend some leads, and we haven’t been able to do that.”

    There’s McVay, repeating himself about a Rams team that is on the wrong side of seven games — learning plenty, sure, young and growing, sure — but also giving opponents the opportunity to beat them.

    That they know better is what makes the sour taste of a loss like this stain the tongue, or a loss like the one in Cincinnati, or even the narrow losses to the NFL’s reigning elite earlier this season. Three of their four losses are by a touchdown or less.

    “Just keep trusting ourselves, just keep learning,” said Ben Skowronek, a team captain. “It’s kind of been the same song and dance week in and week out. Just continue to play within ourselves and do our job. We have a young team, but that’s no excuse. We’ve now played seven football games, countless practices. It’s really just playing complementary football and being able to put all three phases together.”

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    Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
    Darrell Henderson says he didn’t know he would be starting essentially until right before the game. He did know he’d be getting about half the series split with Royce Freeman when he got to stadium. This week was all about getting him up to game conditioning, which meant he

    was thrown into as much as possible throughout practice – including even scout team. He says he feels physically fine postgame despite not having played in a game for a while.

    Blaine Grisak @bgrisakTST
    Rams had more

    Yards: 354-300
    First downs: 19-17
    Third down conversions: 56%-33%
    Plays: 62-56
    Time of Possession: 31:46-28:14

    …and lost.

    One turnover that led to points. Two missed FGs. Plays left on the field. That’s how you beat yourself.’

    One thing that is often forgotten about this Rams team is that they are one of the youngest groups in the NFL.

    It’s not an excuse, but with that comes a rollercoaster of peaks and valleys. It’s going to be inconsistent at times.

    Ted Nguyen@FB_FilmAnalysis
    Nacua is unbelievable. Made a ton of plays on crossers and choice routes without Kupp and then when Kupp was back, he made plays outside and downfield

    Bukayo Saka Liker@3k_
    Just too many execution issues. Rams aren’t talented enough to win games with that many self-inflicted problems against most teams.

    in reply to: comics, jokes, one-shot memes, funny tweets, etc. #146383
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    JAKE ELLENBOGEN@JKBOGEN
    That wasn’t just a prayer, Stafford was throwing to Atwell, look at where Atwell is and where Kupp is. The play design was for Kupp to draw the attention on the back pylon route of both corners and that opened up Atwell who had flattened his route out for a touchdown.
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    Would like to see Matthew Stafford dump the ball off more on the RB screen. Had Hendo for a first and more instead forces it and 3 and out.

    Credit the #Steelers. They had no business winning the game. The #Rams were dominating on the ground, had explosive after explosive. However, they held tough and stayed in the game

    Blaine Grisak@bgrisakTST
    Something worth noting…

    Rams are 1-3 at home. Losses to SF, PHI, and now PIT. All three fanbases took over SoFi. Rams were within one score heading into the 4th quarter in all but one of those games.

    Should be a little better rest of the way in that regard.

    Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
    Steelers got the ball back at their 43 and their 41 following 2 missed Rams field goals. They have scored 10 points off of those field positions, a FG and a TD.

    Missed FG, possession started at PIT 41 – PIT FG
    INT, possession started at LA 7 – TD
    Missed FG, possession started at PIT 43 – TD
    All other possessions: Punts

    Rams Brothers@RamsBrothers
    Puka not only made the big plays on that series, but was also the lead blocker on that Hendo TD. Insanely impressive player. Rams hit a grand slam with him.
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    Cameron DaSilva@camdasilva
    Rams have changed things up on defense. Durant playing outside, Witherspoon playing on the right side of the defense, Kendrick off the field. Spoiler: it’s not working
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    Fishkiller@FV_Mylia_Lynn
    Let me make this clear – the Rams lost this game today. But that officiating at the end was absolute dog shit. Phantom PI, poor spot on 4th down. Just terrible. But the INT, dumb penalties, missed FGs & XP plus a late collapse by the defense lost them this game.

    McVay called a good game overall. Stuck with the run. Stafford didn’t have a good game & made a HUGE mistake w/ that INT. Defense collapsed in the 4th quarter. Maher needs to be cut in the locker room right now.

    Blaine Grisak@bgrisakTST
    Rams defense looks to have gotten a stop. However, a bad spot by an incompetent referee crew gives the Steelers the first down.

    McVay doesn’t have a timeout and can’t challenge. Absolutely unreal. Pickett is clearly short. Incompetence at its finest.

    Rich@rcoop21
    I get the Maher anger. Wouldn’t be surprised if he’s gone tomorrow. But if your offense keeps having to settle for 50+ yard field goals attempts there are bigger problems at play.

    Tom@TL_LARams
    I know we are disappointed with Brett Maher today. And I would have loved to have kept Matt Gay. But Gay got the largest contract ever for a kicker in free agency. It didn’t fit for a franchise trying to reset its cap.

    The refs didn’t cost the Rams the game. They were down 7, with 2 minutes left and would have had to have driven 61 yards, and they managed that on only two of their 10 offensive drives today.

    RAMZILLA@elitster
    Dropped passes
    Bad bad interception
    2 missed FG’s
    1 missed XP
    Poor tackling again

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    I was and am fine with the trade. Goff and McV were just together at the wrong stages of each of their careers. The way I saw it, starting in 2019 McV’s impatience undermined Goff’s confidence. McV wasn’t going to change and with Goff the damage had been done. McV needed an older vet qb he respected and would listen to. Stafford at that stage and in fact at this stage is the better qb, though that’s true of Stafford compared to most of the league and it’s not a knock on Goff. (With Stafford in Detroit, the problem was always Detroit.) McV was going to develop better as a coach with Stafford. Detroit builds around Goff’s strengths and sets him up to be confident; with Stafford, McV is much more collaborative. (IMO McV probably still has to learn how to develop a young qb). Anyway I was alwayws both (1) critical of how McV handled Goff, and (2) accepting of the trade, which I always defended (and again I like Goff, though today the Ravens are slaughtering them).

    Lions can’t run on the Ravens and they’re sacking Goff and Jackson is eating them up. It’s funny, they finally got the “they’re legit” label and then immediately run into a buzz saw.

    Anyway, on Stafford/Goff. Not pushing an agenda. This topic is just going to have lots of different takes from different posters. In my view, Stafford is the best qb I’ve ever seen play with the Rams. Better than Warner even, who was great, and Bulger, who was good. Goff is good, potentially great, but Stafford can still make throws the other 3 couldn’t/can’t.

     

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    The Theory That Men Evolved to Hunt and Women Evolved to Gather Is Wrong
    The influential idea that in the past men were hunters and women were not isn’t supported by the available evidence

    By Cara Ocobock, Sarah Lacy

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-theory-that-men-evolved-to-hunt-and-women-evolved-to-gather-is-wrong1/

    Even if you’re not an anthropologist, you’ve probably encountered one of this field’s most influential notions, known as Man the Hunter. The theory proposes that hunting was a major driver of human evolution and that men carried this activity out to the exclusion of women. It holds that human ancestors had a division of labor, rooted in biological differences between males and females, in which males evolved to hunt and provide, and females tended to children and domestic duties. It assumes that males are physically superior to females and that pregnancy and child-rearing reduce or eliminate a female’s ability to hunt.

    Man the Hunter has dominated the study of human evolution for nearly half a century and pervaded popular culture. It is represented in museum dioramas and textbook figures, Saturday morning cartoons and feature films. The thing is, it’s wrong.

    Mounting evidence from exercise science indicates that women are physiologically better suited than men to endurance efforts such as running marathons. This advantage bears on questions about hunting because a prominent hypothesis contends that early humans are thought to have pursued prey on foot over long distances until the animals were exhausted. Furthermore, the fossil and archaeological records, as well as ethnographic studies of modern-day hunter-gatherers, indicate that women have a long history of hunting game. We still have much to learn about female athletic performance and the lives of prehistoric women. Nevertheless, the data we do have signal that it is time to bury Man the Hunter for good.

    The theory rose to prominence in 1968, when anthropologists Richard B. Lee and Irven DeVore published Man the Hunter, an edited collection of scholarly papers presented at a 1966 symposium on contemporary hunter-gatherer societies. The volume drew on ethnographic, archaeological and paleoanthropological evidence to argue that hunting is what drove human evolution and resulted in our suite of unique features. “Man’s life as a hunter supplied all the other ingredients for achieving civilization: the genetic variability, the inventiveness, the systems of vocal communication, the coordination of social life,” anthropologist William S. Laughlin writes in chapter 33 of the book. Because men were supposedly the ones hunting, proponents of the Man the Hunter theory assumed evolution was acting primarily on men, and women were merely passive beneficiaries of both the meat supply and evolutionary progress.

    But Man the Hunter’s contributors often ignored evidence, sometimes in their own data, that countered their suppositions. For example, Hitoshi Watanabe focused on ethnographic data about the Ainu, an Indigenous population in northern Japan and its surrounding areas. Although Watanabe documented Ainu women hunting, often with the aid of dogs, he dismissed this finding in his interpretations and placed the focus squarely on men as the primary meat winners. He was superimposing the idea of male superiority through hunting onto the Ainu and into the past.

    This fixation on male superiority was a sign of the times not just in academia but in society at large. In 1967, the year between the Man the Hunter conference and the publication of the edited volume, 20-year-old Kathrine Switzer entered the Boston Marathon under the name “K. V. Switzer,” which obscured her gender. There were no official rules against women entering the race; it just was not done. When officials discovered that Switzer was a woman, race manager Jock Semple attempted to push her physically off the course.

    At that time, the conventional wisdom was that women were incapable of completing such a physically demanding task and that attempting to do so could harm their precious reproductive capacities. Scholars following Man the Hunter dogma relied on this belief in women’s limited physical capacities and the assumed burden of pregnancy and lactation to argue that only men hunted. Women had children to rear instead.

    Today these biased assumptions persist in both the scientific literature and the public consciousness. Granted, women have recently been shown hunting in movies such as Prey, the most recent installment of the popular Predator franchise, and on cable programs such as Naked and Afraid and Women Who Hunt. But social media trolls have viciously critiqued and labeled these depictions as part of a politically correct feminist agenda. They insist the creators of such works are trying to rewrite gender roles and evolutionary history in an attempt to co-opt “traditionally masculine” social spheres. Bystanders might be left wondering whether portrayals of women hunters are trying to make the past more inclusive than it really was—or whether Man the Hunter–style assumptions about the past are attempts to project sexism backward in time. Our recent surveys of the physiological and archaeological evidence for hunting capability and sexual division of labor in human evolution answer this question.

    Before getting into the evidence, we need to first talk about sex and gender. “Sex” typically refers to biological sex, which can be defined by myriad characteristics such as chromosomes, hormone levels, gonads, external genitalia and secondary sex characteristics. The terms “female” and “male” are often used in relation to biological sex. “Gender” refers to how an individual identifies—woman, man, nonbinary, and so forth. Much of the scientific literature confuses and conflates female/male and woman/man terminology without providing definitions to clarify what it is referring to and why those terms were chosen. For the purpose of describing anatomical and physiological evidence, most of the literature uses “female” and “male,” so we use those words here when discussing the results of such studies. For ethnographic and archaeological evidence, we are attempting to reconstruct social roles, for which the terms “woman” and “man” are usually used. Unfortunately, both these word sets assume a binary, which does not exist biologically, psychologically or socially. Sex and gender both exist as a spectrum, but when citing the work of others, it is difficult to add that nuance.

    It also bears mentioning that much of the research into exercise physiology, paleoanthropology, archaeology and ethnography has historically been conducted by men and focused on males. For example, Ella Smith of the Australian Catholic University and her colleagues found that in studies of nutrition and supplements, only 23 percent of participants were female. In studies focusing on athletic performance, Emma Cowley of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill and her colleagues found, only 3 percent of publications had female-only participants; 63 percent of publications looked exclusively at males. This massive disparity means we still know very little about female athletic performance, training and nutrition, leaving athletic trainers and coaches to mostly treat females as small males. It also means that much of the work we have to rely on to make our physiological arguments about female hunters in prehistory is based on research with small human sample sizes or rodent studies. We hope this state of affairs will inspire the next generation of scientists to ensure that females are represented in such studies. But even with the limited data available to us, we can show that Man the Hunter is a flawed theory and make the case that females in early human communities hunted, too.

    From a biological standpoint, there are undeniable differences between females and males. When we discuss these differences, we are typically referring to means, averages of one group compared with another. Means obscure the vast range of variation in humans. For instance, although males tend to be larger and to have bigger hearts and lungs and more muscle mass, there are plenty of females who fall within the typical male range; the inverse is also true.

    Given the fitness world’s persistent touting of the hormone testosterone for athletic success, you’d be forgiven for not knowing that estrogen, which females typically produce more of than males, plays an incredibly important role in athletic performance. It makes sense from an evolutionary standpoint, however. The estrogen receptor—the protein that estrogen binds to in order to do its work—is deeply ancient. Joseph Thornton of the University of Chicago and his colleagues have estimated that it is around 1.2 billion to 600 million years old—roughly twice as old as the testosterone receptor. In addition to helping regulate the reproductive system, estrogen influences fine-motor control and memory, enhances the growth and development of neurons, and helps to prevent hardening of the arteries.

    Important for the purposes of this discussion, estrogen also improves fat metabolism. During exercise, estrogen seems to encourage the body to use stored fat for energy before stored carbohydrates. Fat contains more calories per gram than carbohydrates do, so it burns more slowly, which can delay fatigue during endurance activity. Not only does estrogen encourage fat burning, but it also promotes greater fat storage within muscles—marbling if you will—which makes that fat’s energy more readily available. Adiponectin, another hormone that is typically present in higher amounts in females than in males, further enhances fat metabolism while sparing carbohydrates for future use, and it protects muscle from breakdown. Anne Friedlander of Stanford University and her colleagues found that females use as much as 70 percent more fat for energy during exercise than males.

    Correspondingly, the muscle fibers of females differ from those of males. Females have more type I, or “slow-twitch,” muscle fibers than males do. These fibers generate energy slowly by using fat. They are not all that powerful, but they take a long time to become fatigued. They are the endurance muscle fibers. Males, in contrast, typically have more type II (“fast-twitch”) fibers, which use carbohydrates to provide quick energy and a great deal of power but tire rapidly.

    Females also tend to have a greater number of estrogen receptors on their skeletal muscles compared with males. This arrangement makes these muscles more sensitive to estrogen, including to its protective effect after physical activity. Estrogen’s ability to increase fat metabolism and regulate the body’s response to the hormone insulin can help prevent muscle breakdown during intense exercise. Furthermore, estrogen appears to have a stabilizing effect on cell membranes that might otherwise rupture from acute stress brought on by heat and exercise. Ruptured cells release enzymes called creatine kinases, which can damage tissues.

    Studies of females and males during and after exercise bolster these claims. Linda Lamont of the University of Rhode Island and her colleagues, as well as Michael Riddell of York University in Canada and his colleagues, found that females experienced less muscle breakdown than males after the same bouts of exercise. Tellingly, in a separate study Mazen J. Hamadeh of York University and his colleagues found that males supplemented with estrogen suffered less muscle breakdown during cycling than those who didn’t receive estrogen supplements. In a similar vein, research led by Ron Maughan of the University of St Andrews in Scotland found that females were able to perform significantly more weight-lifting repetitions than males at the same percentages of their maximal strength.

    If females are better able to use fat for sustained energy and keep their muscles in better condition during exercise, then they should be able to run greater distances with less fatigue relative to males. In fact, an analysis of marathons carried out by Robert Deaner of Grand Valley State University demonstrated that females tend to slow down less as the race progresses compared with males.

    If you follow long-distance races, you might be thinking, wait—males are outperforming females in endurance events! But this is only sometimes the case. Females are more regularly dominating ultraendurance events such as the more than 260-mile Montane Spine foot race through England and Scotland, the 21-mile swim across the English Channel and the 4,300-mile Trans Am cycling race across the U.S. Sometimes female athletes compete in these races while attending to the needs of their children. In 2018 English runner Sophie Power ran the 105-mile Ultra-Trail du Mont-Blanc race in the Alps while still breastfeeding her three-month-old at rest stations.

    The inequity between male and female athletes is a result not of inherent biological differences between the sexes but of biases in how they are treated in sports. As an example, some endurance-running events allow the use of professional runners called pacesetters to help competitors perform their best. Men are not permitted to act as pacesetters in many women’s events because of the belief that they will make the women “artificially faster,” as though women were not actually doing the running themselves.

    The modern physiological evidence, along with historical examples, exposes deep flaws in the idea that physical inferiority prevented females from partaking in hunting during our evolutionary past. The evidence from prehistory further undermines this notion.

    Consider the skeletal remains of ancient people. Differences in body size between females and males of a species, a phenomenon called sexual size dimorphism, correlate with social structure. In species with pronounced size dimorphism, larger males compete with one another for access to females, and among the great apes larger males socially dominate females. Low sexual size dimorphism is characteristic of egalitarian and monogamous species. Modern humans have low sexual size dimorphism compared with the other great apes. The same goes for human ancestors spanning the past two million years, suggesting that the social structure of humans changed from that of our chimpanzeelike ancestors.

    Anthropologists also look at damage on our ancestors’ skeletons for clues to their behavior. Neandertals are the best-studied extinct members of the human family because we have a rich fossil record of their remains. Neandertal females and males do not differ in their trauma patterns, nor do they exhibit sex differences in pathology from repetitive actions. Their skeletons show the same patterns of wear and tear. This finding suggests that they were doing the same things, from ambush-hunting large game animals to processing hides for leather. Yes, Neandertal women were spearing woolly rhinoceroses, and Neandertal men were making clothing.

    Males living in the Upper Paleolithic—the cultural period between roughly 45,000 and 10,000 years ago, when early modern humans entered Europe—do show higher rates of a set of injuries to the right elbow region known as thrower’s elbow, which could mean they were more likely than females to throw spears. But it does not mean women were not hunting, because this period is also when people invented the bow and arrow, hunting nets and fishing hooks. These more sophisticated tools enabled humans to catch a wider variety of animals; they were also easier on hunters’ bodies. Women may have favored hunting tactics that took advantage of these new technologies.

    What is more, females and males were buried in the same way in the Upper Paleolithic. Their bodies were interred with the same kinds of artifacts, or grave goods, suggesting that the groups they lived in did not have social hierarchies based on sex.

    Ancient DNA provides additional clues about social structure and potential gender roles in ancestral human communities. Patterns of variation in the Y chromosome, which is paternally inherited, and in mitochondrial DNA, which is maternally inherited, can reveal differences in how males and females dispersed after reaching maturity. Thanks to analyses of DNA extracted from fossils, we now know of three Neandertal groups that engaged in patrilocality—wherein males were more likely to stay in the group they were born into and females moved to other groups—although we do not know how widespread this practice was.

    Patrilocality is believed to have been an attempt to avoid incest by trading potential mates with other groups. Nevertheless, many Neandertals show both genetic and anatomical evidence of repeated inbreeding in their ancestry. They lived in small, nomadic groups with low population densities and endured frequent local extinctions, which produced much lower levels of genetic diversity than we see in living humans. This is probably why we don’t see any evidence in their skeletons of sex-based differences in behavior. For those practicing a foraging subsistence strategy in small family groups, flexibility and adaptability are much more important than rigid roles, gendered or otherwise. Individuals get injured or die, and the availability of animal and plant foods changes with the seasons. All group members need to be able to step into any role depending on the situation, whether that role is hunter or breeding partner.

    Observations of recent and contemporary foraging societies provide direct evidence of women participating in hunting. The most cited examples come from the Agta people of the Philippines. Agta women hunt while menstruating, pregnant and breastfeeding, and they have the same hunting success as Agta men.

    They are hardly alone. A recent study of ethnographic data spanning the past 100 years—much of which was ignored by Man the Hunter contributors—found that women from a wide range of cultures hunt animals for food. Abigail Anderson and Cara Wall-Scheffler of Seattle Pacific University and their colleagues report that 79 percent of the 63 foraging societies with clear descriptions of their hunting strategies feature women hunters. The women participate in hunting regardless of their childbearing status. These findings directly challenge the Man the Hunter assumption that women’s bodies and childcare responsibilities limit their efforts to gathering foods that cannot run away.

    So much about female exercise physiology and the lives of prehistoric women remains to be discovered. But the idea that in the past men were hunters and women were not is absolutely unsupported by the limited evidence we have. Female physiology is optimized for exactly the kinds of endurance activities involved in procuring game animals for food. And ancient women and men appear to have engaged in the same foraging activities rather than upholding a sex-based division of labor. It was the arrival some 10,000 years ago of agriculture, with its intensive investment in land, population growth and resultant clumped resources, that led to rigid gendered roles and economic inequality.

    Now when you think of “cave people,” we hope, you will imagine a mixed-sex group of hunters encircling an errant reindeer or knapping stone tools together rather than a heavy-browed man with a club over one shoulder and a trailing bride. Hunting may have been remade as a masculine activity in recent times, but for most of human history, it belonged to everyone.

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