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znModeratorthank goodness the giants #32 ranked scoring offense is as bad as advertised. pic.twitter.com/7nmKokoDtI
— roberto clemente (@rclemente2121) December 31, 2023
znModeratorWith 2.5 sacks in New York today, Kobie Turner matches Aaron Donald's record for sacks by a @RamsNFL rookie with 9 (and counting). He's also in position to lead the NFL Class of 2023.
Why shouldn't LA have both the offensive and defensive Rookies of the Year? pic.twitter.com/Jx0PIamOl6
— J.B. Long (@JB_Long) December 31, 2023
znModeratorRams playoff hopes: pic.twitter.com/kIZ8nkS1Qx
— šš š (@TL_LARams) December 31, 2023
znModeratorThe @RamsNFL survive the abominable kicker bowl in NY! š pic.twitter.com/tYJVcNVPpx
— JimEverett.eth (@Jim_Everett) December 31, 2023
znModeratorWell, that was wild.
Instant analysis of the Rams' 26-25 win over the Giants today https://t.co/TiFBwUwDV3
— Cameron DaSilva (@camdasilva) December 31, 2023
December 31, 2023 at 4:16 pm in reply to: praise for Stafford after TNF (definitive article posted 1/9) #148096
znModeratorThe marriage of McVay and Stafford is so effective. I dont think it can ever by over-stated just how great it must be for McVay to have a veteran with as much mental-power and experience as Matthew Stafford. Now that Brady has retired, who is the top QB-brain active on the grid-iron? If it aint Stafford, I dunno who it would be. w v
I am stunned by how good Matthew Stafford is. More so this season than the SB season. He was good that year, but good lord almighty. That āNo Lookā throw in the Super Bowl was Something Else. It was not just a ācool throw.ā There is a good chance that that pass would not have been completed, if it werenāt for the fact that it was a No Look pass. That LB was right there. He was smack in the sweet spot of that passing lane. And Staffordās āmisdirection gazeā made that dude lean slightly to his left, and by the time he saw where the ball was going, he just couldnāt quite reverse his momentum enough to get his fingertips on that pass, and that was a HUGE play. But now it seems like I see that freakshit from Stafford every single fucking game. The stakes arenāt as high, so maybe if we are judging passes like a Diving judge, and taking context into account, the Super Bowl pass was the highwater mark. But this year, itās like he is making those throws without anybody paying much attention to it. He is doing it all the time. Roll to the left, throw cross-body to the right, splitting the legs of a LB, and darting the ball between 2 guys in the secondary who stretch out within 6 inches of the ball, right into the hands of some goddamn receiver nobody heard of before this year. With broken bones and probably a collapsed lung. Itās ridiculous. I am beginning to realize that I am deeply in love with Matthew Stafford. Iām going to say it right now: I think heās better than Pat Haden was.
December 31, 2023 at 4:16 pm in reply to: praise for Stafford after TNF (definitive article posted 1/9) #148097
znModeratorThe marriage of McVay and Stafford is so effective. I dont think it can ever by over-stated just how great it must be for McVay to have a veteran with as much mental-power and experience as Matthew Stafford. Now that Brady has retired, who is the top QB-brain active on the grid-iron? If it aint Stafford, I dunno who it would be. w v
I am stunned by how good Matthew Stafford is. More so this season than the SB season. He was good that year, but good lord almighty. That āNo Lookā throw in the Super Bowl was Something Else. It was not just a ācool throw.ā There is a good chance that that pass would not have been completed, if it werenāt for the fact that it was a No Look pass. That LB was right there. He was smack in the sweet spot of that passing lane. And Staffordās āmisdirection gazeā made that dude lean slightly to his left, and by the time he saw where the ball was going, he just couldnāt quite reverse his momentum enough to get his fingertips on that pass, and that was a HUGE play. But now it seems like I see that freakshit from Stafford every single fucking game. The stakes arenāt as high, so maybe if we are judging passes like a Diving judge, and taking context into account, the Super Bowl pass was the highwater mark. But this year, itās like he is making those throws without anybody paying much attention to it. He is doing it all the time. Roll to the left, throw cross-body to the right, splitting the legs of a LB, and darting the ball between 2 guys in the secondary who stretch out within 6 inches of the ball, right into the hands of some goddamn receiver nobody heard of before this year. With broken bones and probably a collapsed lung. Itās ridiculous. I am beginning to realize that I am deeply in love with Matthew Stafford. Iām going to say it right now: I think heās better than Pat Haden was.

znModeratorGeorge Kittle’s #1 fan@BeastFBall
IIRC, Stafford was lethal against the blitz which probably explains why the DCs have mostly backed off from it. Am I remembering correctly?Doug Farrar@NFL_DougFarrar
Once he has the timing down with his receivers, yes. If you vacate, youād better replace, or heāll just kick your ass.December 31, 2023 at 11:46 am in reply to: science! physics, astrophysics, abiogenesis, n other stuff #148088
znModeratorA good review of the basics on this issue.
znModeratorAfter losing three of their last four games, and struggling mightily on offense, the #Chiefs are paring things down. Fewer plays, fewer packages, better execution (they hope).
My story with @TomPelissero: https://t.co/AaC6Uufmj9https://t.co/AaC6Uufmj9
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) December 31, 2023
znModerator.@Lions v @dallascowboys the final 2 point try. I dont know what was said or wasnt said but you would never practice this play without Decker not reporting as eligibleā¦Regardless; it was a very impressive 1 minute drive by the Lions to score. #BaldysBreakdowns pic.twitter.com/pXKKvLwgiL
— Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) December 31, 2023
znModeratorThe big difference for the @MiamiDolphins' defense? Jalen Ramsey. Since Ramsey was activated, Miami has an INT% of 3.7, which is the same as their touchdown allowed rate.
Before Ramsey? 4.0% TD, 1.1% INT. @gregcosell and I get into it. https://t.co/OjgMKs8VSJ pic.twitter.com/XvN6Fr4evn
— Doug Farrar ā (@NFL_DougFarrar) December 31, 2023
znModeratorNEW FOOTAGE: #Lions coach Dan Campbell repeatedly says āI TOLD YOU!ā to referee Brad Allen. pic.twitter.com/64Hkro8J8Y
The team thought they did everything right, because they celebrated for a while before seeing the flag.
A COMPLETE JOKE FROM THE REFS.
(Via @WXYZDetroit &ā¦
— MLFootball (@_MLFootball) December 31, 2023
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Lions ‘confused’ as refs negate late 2-point try in Cowboys win
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39213838/cowboys-hang-penalty-nixes-lions-2-point-conversion
ARLINGTON, Texas — Detroit LionsĀ coach Dan Campbell was visibly frustrated after a controversial penalty negated what would have been a go-ahead 2-point conversion late in Saturday night’s loss to theĀ Dallas Cowboys.Officials flagged Lions offensive linemanĀ Taylor DeckerĀ after he caught a pass that appeared to be the potential winner with 23 seconds left. However, Decker was called for an illegal touching penalty for not reporting as eligible.
The Cowboys ultimately denied the Lions’ 2-point try and won 20-19.
“Would you be frustrated right now?” Campbell said afterward. “I don’t like losing, and that’s what happened. We lost, and that bothers me. I don’t like having an L, so that’s the frustration.”
The Lions and the refs gave contradictory accounts afterward, with quarterbackĀ Jared GoffĀ saying definitively that Decker, the Lions’ starting left tackle, reported as an eligible receiver and thatĀ Dan Skipper, a backup offensive tackle, did not. Skipper also said afterward that he did not report to an official.
However, in a pool report, referee Brad Allen said the opposite, that Skipper reported to him as eligible and Decker did not.
“Therefore, he is an ineligible touching a pass that goes beyond the line, which makes it a foul,” Allen said of Decker in the pool report. “So, the issue is, number 70 did report, number 68 did not.”
Video showed Decker having a conversation with Allen, who then said something to the Cowboys’ defense.
“That conversation is where [Skipper] reports to me, and I then go to the defensive team, and I say to them, ‘[Skipper] has reported as an eligible receiver,’ so they will be aware of who has reported,” Allen said in the pool report.
Inside the Lions’ locker room after the loss, Decker and Skipper declined to speak in depth about the penalty. Instead, Decker said he did “exactly what Coach told me to do.” Skipper said he had “very few words that aren’t going to get me fined.”
With 1:41 remaining on Detroit’s final drive and the Lions trailing 20-13, Campbell told his players that they were going for the win and would continue to be aggressive.
ReceiverĀ Amon-Ra St. BrownĀ caught an 11-yard touchdown from Goff with 23 seconds remaining that brought Detroit to within 20-19. But the Lions failed on three 2-point conversion attempts. The first two attempts were called back by penalties, one against the Lions and one against the Cowboys, and the final play was an incomplete pass to tight endĀ James Mitchell.
Goff said he was “pretty confused” by the flag on Decker.
“Yeah, that sucks. It’s unfortunate, man,” Goff said. “I don’t know if I’ve had this feeling before where you feel like you’ve won, and you didn’t. With that being said though, the next two plays we had shots at it.”
znModeratorfrom Referee Brad Allen may have cost the Detroit Lions a win against the Dallas Cowboys
Doug Farrar
Referee Brad Allen may have cost the Detroit Lions a win against the Dallas Cowboys
We at Touchdown Wire have had issues with referee Brad Allen before, and with good reason. And now, itās entirely possible that Allen and his crew cost the Detroit Lions a win they should have had.
Here was the situation. The Lions went right down the field against the Dallas Cowboys down 20-19 starting with 1:41 left in the fourth quarter. The Lions had that much time because Cowboys head coach Mike McCarthy called three straight passes before a field goal that put Dallas up 20-13. Dallas then gave quarterback Jared Goff all the soft coverage he could ever dream of having, which allowed Goff to drive his team downfield and hit receiver Amon-Ra St. Brown for an 11-yard touchdown with 27 seconds left.
Then, head coach Dan Campbell called for a two-point conversion, as is his wont, and it looked for all the world that Goff hit offensive tackle Taylor Decker in the end zone for the successful try that would have given the Lions a 21-20 lead. But Allen called an illegal touch pass on the play, saying that Decker didnāt report as an eligible receiver.
Lions head coach Dan Campbell said after the game,ā70 [tackle Dan Skipper] reported, 68 [Decker] didnāt. That was the explanation.ā
Well, hereās the problem with that. ESPN, who had the game, had clear video evidence of Goff telling Decker to report as eligible. And there is clear video evidence of Decker going over to do just that.
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[NOTE: go to the link for the rest of the article, which includes numberous vids.]
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znModeratorPARAM
What a difference a year makes. OL games missed to injury in 2023.
Alaric – 1
Havenstein – 3
Avila – 0
Shelton – 0Dotson (12 GS) and Noteboom (3 GS) have combined for 15 games at RG. Noteboom has started 3 games at RT and 1 at LT.
znModeratorMatthew Staffordās numbers are a tale of two stories with and without Williams. In the 11 games that Stafford and Williams have played with each other, Stafford has thrown for over 250 yards eight times. In the three games that Stafford played without Williams, Stafford put up 231 yards against Pittsburgh, 162 against Dallas and 190 against Seattle.
Stafford has not thrown for less than 200 yards with Williams on the field. Williams is a direct contributor to wins, points scored, yards gained and overall offensive production. His contributions are already staggering but itās even more impressive coming from the running back position. His impact without the ball in his hands can be felt and with the ball, it has been seen.
znModeratorPass Rush Win Rate in 2023 (Minimum 50% of snaps):
1. Myles Garrett – 27.5% #Browns
2. Micah Parsons – 25.1% #Cowboys
3. Aaron Donald – 22.5% #Rams
4. Nick Bosa – 22.4% #49ers
5. Bryce Huff – 21.6% #Jets pic.twitter.com/qZfHregs86— JAKE ELLENBOGEN (@JKBOGEN) December 30, 2023
znModerator.@MiamiDolphins v @Ravens lets look at this Ravens Defense; #1 ranked for most of the season. #BaldysBreakdowns pic.twitter.com/ltc5GgI8mA
— Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) December 30, 2023
December 30, 2023 at 11:28 am in reply to: praise for Stafford after TNF (definitive article posted 1/9) #148068
znModeratorIt just makes you wonder what Stafford could be doing if he wasnāt washed up
Plus if he were really any good, why didn’t he win any playoff games in Detroit.
znModeratorIs back to back years now, you have high profile quarterbacks getting benched over injury guarantees once their teams are out of it.
The league wants stars on the field, whether teams are in it or not. Folks at the shield are likely not happy about thisā¦let alone at the NFLPA. https://t.co/r5c50KJ4GA
— Brett Kollmann (@BrettKollmann) December 30, 2023
znModeratorRams-Giants advanced stats preview: LA has the edge in every area https://t.co/oBPWtAwoEP pic.twitter.com/bwAsRgLZBa
— Rams Wire (@TheRamsWire) December 30, 2023
znModeratorHe discusses the Rams at 2:50 in.
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December 29, 2023 at 9:16 pm in reply to: praise for Stafford after TNF (definitive article posted 1/9) #148061
znModeratorMatthew Stafford on 3rd/4th downs this season:
91.1 PFF grade (1st)
12 passing TDs
1 INT
112.8 passer rating (1st)3rd down conversion percentage, team (I can’t find individual qbĀ 3rd down stats)
Rams: ranked 12th
Last 3 games, ranked 9th
December 29, 2023 at 8:51 pm in reply to: praise for Stafford after TNF (definitive article posted 1/9) #148060
znModeratorroberto clemente@rclemente2121
just thinking out loud….stafford’s last 5 games:
qb ratings
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120.7
118.0
103.1
110.1
121.1and
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> 4-1 record
> 14 tds, 1 int
> led offense to 31.6 offensive pts / gm avg
> hung 34 on the browns, 29 on the ravens
znModerator69RamFan wrote: I feel that this OL is better than our 2021 SB OL season.
jackson has been a revelation. just completely underestimated that dude.
Looks to me like a lot of this is not just the players but obviously the OL coach too, Wendell, who IMO has been just outstanding. This OL has the “Patriots feel” which doesn’t mean they play like the Patz exactly in terms of the scheme, but that the Patz, under the great OL coach Dante Scarnecchia, just had a real talent for playing together as a unit and for being aware of everything. Wendell played under Scarnecchia and then was an assistant OL coach for Aaron Kromer in Buffalo. That’s a good resume. It really looks like McV scored big with that coaching hire. An example of how that’s working out? IMO Havenstein has never played better.
And it’s the personnel people too. Look at what they paid for these guys in terms of picks:
Jackson–UDFA
Avila–2nd round
Shelton–“ronin” cut by SF, originally a UDFA
Dotson–trade swapping 6th for 7th round pick, originally a 4th rounder
Havenstein–2nd roundJust in terms of how they put this group together it reminds me of the great GSOT OL, which included a high pick (Pace), an expensive free agent (Timmerman), 2 “ronin” (Gruttadauria and Nutten…and McCollum too who makes a 3rd “ronin”), and a 5th rounder (Miller). What’s similar? As a group they were acquired in a multitude of ways. For 2023, it’s a UDFA, a “ronin” pick-up, a budget trade, and 2 2nd rounders.
December 29, 2023 at 8:19 pm in reply to: praise for Stafford after TNF (definitive article posted 1/9) #148055
znModeratorMatthew Stafford on 3rd/4th downs this season:
šµ 91.1 PFF grade (1st)
š” 12 passing TDs
šµ 1 INT
š” 112.8 passer rating (1st) pic.twitter.com/Vr6pIJCeUi— PFF (@PFF) December 29, 2023
znModeratorrevisiting this insane stafford pass:
3rd & 6, pressure, throws off back foot, delivers a perfect strike to higbee.
the stats read a 14-yd comp, but from his release point to higbee the ball actually traveled 31 yds in the air, with a flick of the wrist, on a rope, incredible. pic.twitter.com/2tNxABzBry
— roberto clemente (@rclemente2121) December 30, 2023
flight path… also, how about kw on that play, picking up the lb (hudson) and sticking w/ him? pic.twitter.com/5GmY02kQPZ
— roberto clemente (@rclemente2121) December 30, 2023
znModeratorSince itās New York Giants week, letās take it back to when Robert Woods turned a 3rd and 33 into a HUGE touchdown! šš½š„ pic.twitter.com/wDYOAmDv5j
— Rams Tapes š„¶ (@RamsTapes) December 29, 2023
znModerator69RamFan
I feel that this OL is better than our 2021 SB OL season.
Whit was better than Jackson,
but Jackson is playing outstanding for a UDFA.Everyone else on the OL is better than the rest of 2021 SB OL.
The three middle OL are by far much better than 2021,
They’re bigger and stronger.In 2021, we had to play the zone blocking scheme because we were small in the middle.
Now with a bigger middle, we can do all three in power gap, man, or zone.
This OL has been jelling together especially the last 6 games.
AJ held his own, not allowing Garrett to get to Stafford during the Browns match-up.
The middle of our OL, are not allowing pressure up the middle like in 2021,
Now Stafford can step up into the pocket if needed to make a throw.
Plus, they are opening up holes for are run game
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