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znModeratorTypo aside more on that situation here from this story https://t.co/ry7Lt0Ieww pic.twitter.com/W6HcxzDcG6
— Jourdan Rodrigue (@JourdanRodrigue) March 8, 2024
znModeratorJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigueThe Rams have about $29 in cap space and more in functional space pending a potential Noteboom pay restructure or release..The second I sent it I was like, sigh … MILLION
znModeratorLondon Fletcher holds the #NFL record for the most consecutive starts by a LB with 221 including playoffs. pic.twitter.com/KiWjUoZLt3
— NFL Stats (@NFL_Stats) March 8, 2024
znModeratorBeen thinkin about it and I hope the Rams don’t trade up in round 1. If anything I would rather see them trade down.
znModeratorGary Klein@LATimeskleinRams receive a third-round compensation pick for Raheem Morris and three sixth-round and one seventh-round pick for loss of 2023 free agents..Blaine Grisak@bgrisakTSTRams comp picks officially coming in at:3rd round – 98th overall
6th round – 209th overall
6th round – 213th overall
6th round – 217th overall
7th round – 254th overallGood chance for Les Snead to find another quality starter in the 6th round with three extra picks there.
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SeattleRams@seattlerams_nfl
The Rams now have four top 100 picks in the 2024 NFL Draft.***
Now that the Compensatory picks have been announced here are the full list of draft picks the Rams have in 2024.
Rams Draft Picks 2024
Round 1: #19
Round 2: #52
Round 3: #83
Round 3: #98
Round 5: #153
Round 5: #154
Round 6: #191
Round 6: #209
Round 6: #213
Round 6: #217
Round 7: #254
znModeratorOk, great. But i’m still pissed-off that Zack Martin wasn’t a Ram. w v
That, and trading away Kent Hill.
znModeratorJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigueKevin Dotson’s contract is now filed on Over the Cap. $32M is guaranteed, with base salaries of $7M, $8M, $8M respectively, prorated signing bonuses over 3 years amounting to $4.25M, roster bonuses amounting to $20.7M. His 2024 cap number is $12.6M but contract apy is $16M.…..
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znModeratorBlaine Grisak @bgrisakTST Per @Schultz_Report, the Rams are putting an original round tender on OT Alaric Jackson for $3.2M. Surprised it’s not a second round tender that would have cost $4.8M.
ME: that might not be accurate?
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Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigueThe Rams are planning to tender RFA left tackle Alaric Jackson, according to a source (as@JFowlerESPN said yesterday). They haven’t settled on the level of tender yet and have until early next week to do so. Jackson was a UDFA, so the RofFR would be $3M. Second round is $4.89M,.First round is $6.82M. As a reminder, if another team submits an offer sheet to an RFA, the original team can opt to match or else receive the pick correlating to the tender (if pick value is attached).
znModeratorBlaine Grisak @bgrisakTST
Per @Schultz_Report, the Rams are putting an original round tender on OT Alaric Jackson for $3.2M. Surprised it’s not a second round tender that would have cost $4.8M.
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PA RAM
A first round tender is over 6. A second round tender is just under 5. Right of first refusal was the cheapest….just over 3.
Wise move. If nobody makes him an offer, we get him cheap. If somebody offers him we can match. And with the depth of the OT draft class, will he get any huge offers?
For other teams, do you come up with an offer you think the Ram won’t match, or just pick a guy in a draft that is loaded at LOT? Plus the other side of the coin is, if someone actually does sign Jackson to an unmatchable deal, it’s a good year for the Rams to draft a left OT.
znModeratorI wonder what’s going to happen with Shelton.
Word is, the draft is deep at center.
znModeratorThe @LARams re-signed right guard Kevin Dotson.
Dotson cut his pressure rate allowed from 6.7% before the Rams’ Week 10 bye to 5.5% from Weeks 11-18, the 4th-lowest among right guards in that span (min. 150 pass blocking snaps).#RamsHouse pic.twitter.com/WToC8BDmfW
— Next Gen Stats (@NextGenStats) March 7, 2024
znModeratorJordan Schultz@Schultz_ReportKevin Dotson ranked as one of the top guards in the NFL last season and played essentially every meaningful snap for the #Rams. Plus, he’s only 27 years old. Big win for both sides.
znModerator.@RamsNFL @TurnerKobie development kept coming as the season went on. Just wait for season #2. #BaldysBreakdowns pic.twitter.com/tMn8xuhuc1
— Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) March 7, 2024
znModeratorHow many NFL starting centers will come from the 2024 draft class?
If the over/under is 4.5, I'm taking the over. JPJ, Barton, Frazier, Van Pran, Bortolini, Nourzad, Limmer. A few more promising options on day 3.
AWESOME year to draft a center. pic.twitter.com/CGnQgzcAUJ
— Dane Brugler (@dpbrugler) March 7, 2024
znModeratorKevin Dotson proved to be one of the best trades in the NFL this year. The former Steeler had his best season yet and was deserving of all the accolades. Dotson
Dotson graded one of the top Guards in the league according to @PFF.
I love his ability to finish plays! Great motor pic.twitter.com/fFg2dTEfLv
— RAMS ON FILM (@RamsOnFilm) January 13, 2024
znModeratorBlaine Grisak @bgrisakTSTPer @Schultz_Report, the Rams are putting an original round tender on OT Alaric Jackson for $3.2M. Surprised it’s not a second round tender that would have cost $4.8M. Putting an original round tender on Jackson is their way of seeing what his value is without risking losing him. They can match any offer sheet. A way of getting a fair number as he becomes their full-time starting LT.
znModeratorNow they are shaping up to have a great IOL.
dare i say the greatest interior oline i’ve seen since watching the rams?
You know, that’s possible. I mean I don’t know how long you have followed the Rams, but yes that’s possible. At least since Mack and Harrah, who last played together in 1978.
You don’t need a great combined IOL to have a great OL, but if you do have a great IOL, it makes a huge difference.
znModeratorone thing i could see them doing. if they are interested in taliese fuaga. they probably have to trade up for him. but if they were to draft him then they let dotson go. plug fuaga at right guard. hav at right tackle. alaric at left tackle. sign him to a multi-year contract. avila at left guard. shelton at center. and what i like about it is you plug fuaga at rg but then he’s a logical candidate to replace hav the next year. his combine tape looks amazing. very quick. supposedly very impressive in interviews.
How does them signing Dotson impact your thinking on this?
znModeratorI’m glad the Rams were flexible with this. Usually they are about as likely to pay a guard as they are to pay a safety. But Dotson is a different animal, so regular formulas don’t apply. Now they are shaping up to have a great IOL. And with a great IOL, you can get by with just “solid” and not necessarily “elite” at LOT.
Think of the 2023 running game. Have you ever seen the Rams dominate running up the gut the way they did? There were times when all they had to do was hand off to Wms and it was 5 yards every pop.
znModeratorAdam Schefter@AdamSchefterRams are re-signing G Kevin Dotson to sign a three-year, $48 million deal that includes $32 million guaranteed, as @Schultz_Report also reported..Blaine Grisak@bgrisakTSTLes Snead has made several great trades as the general manager of the Rams. Not sure where Kevin Dotson trade ranks, but that was a big win for the front office. Saw a need at guard and found a player available that fit the new scheme. Made a HUGE difference..Andrew Siciliano@AndrewSicilianoLow-key fantastic trade at the cutdown deadline last summer for Les Snead. Helped solidly the OL.According to Pro Football Focus, Dotson boasted a pass-blocking efficiency grade of 97.3 last season. That was among the tops for interior linemen in the NFL. The interior of the Rams’ offensive line allowed only eight of the 30 sacks Stafford took a season ago. That’s darn good stuff.
What’s more impressive is the performance of Dotson and the Rams’ offensive line in blocking for Williams on the ground. He became the first player since 1937 to finish in the top-three of the NFL in rushing (1,144 yards) despite missing four or more games to injury.
Williams also ranked second behind Christian McCaffrey with 3.0 yards per rush before contact. That’s an obvious testament to what Kevin Dotson and the offensive line did on the ground.
znModeratorAnd just a year ago, the Bills were all like
Well they’re certainly following the Rams 2023 model. They too still have the qb and a star D player so it could have the same result (playoffs).
March 7, 2024 at 10:49 am in reply to: New thread (March): Rams & free agency + trade scenarios #149666
znModeratorRams free agency buzz: Aaron Donald questions, OL markets, upcoming extension talks
By Jourdan Rodrigue
The NFL combine came and went, bringing with it a new wave of chatter from agents, scouts, coaches, front-office executives and analysts within the hotel lobbies, restaurants, coffee shops and bars of Indianapolis.
While the Los Angeles Rams’ top brass did not attend (they haven’t since 2020), a small contingent of personnel did work behind the scenes and on the ground on what general manager Les Snead called “specific missions.”
For all 32 teams and the NFL ecosystem at large, a presence at the combine includes getting a clearer picture of free agency. The new league year begins on March 13; the legal tampering period — teams can talk to agents of other teams’ pending free agents — begins Monday.
The Rams will have about $40 million to spend in free agency, plus more pending a few likely upcoming moves (outlined below).
I spent six days in Indianapolis, in part to try to get a sense of the Rams’ plans from league sources. The Rams’ offseason actually starts with a $35 million question — at least, it did for those league sources: Aaron Donald has previously said he’ll return in 2024, but would the star defensive tackle actually walk away?
As other buildings and player representatives work to assess each others’ situations and try to predict the coming markets, some league sources who spoke with me on the condition of anonymity had serious questions about Donald’s plans — especially because the financial ripple effect for the Rams either way wouldn’t just be significant for the team’s own offseason moves, but other free agents and teams as well.
Recent public comments made by Snead did very little to answer those questions — if the team knows what Donald, 33, will do, they aren’t sharing.
“Definitely hope Aaron is (back) … I know Aaron is definitely approaching the offseason where he’s doing his normal getting-away, somewhat trying to get revitalized with the goal of playing good football,” Snead said in late-February, indicating that the Rams were treating Donald with the usual space following a productive season.
This bears reminding: At the end of the 2023 season, Donald said he would “for sure” be committed to carrying forward the progress he and younger teammates made in 2023 into 2024. When Donald signed his three-year extension in 2022 after initially contemplating retirement, multiple sources said the team received his commitment to play through its duration into 2024.
On the fifth day of the new league year, according to Over the Cap and ProFootballTalk, a $5 million bonus kicks in and Donald can also earn a $30 million guarantee on his contract if he is on the Rams’ roster. That is also the final year on his current deal, with two “void” years afterward. He is scheduled to make nearly $35 million in 2024 (still the highest among interior defensive linemen, though others are expected to reach deals into the new league year). That would be a huge amount of money to leave behind.
After the Rams’ season ended in January, Sean McVay was asked whether he was concerned that the decision of former defensive line coach Eric Henderson — a close friend and mentor of Donald’s — to take a job at USC would affect Donald’s intent to return for the final year of his deal. McVay’s response, like Snead’s, wasn’t altogether clear.
“I think those conversations occur at the appropriate time,” McVay said. “There’s so much emotion that takes place right after a game and after a season. … (I think) you give guys the chance to really just digest the season, coaches and players alike, and then we’ll address all those things at the right time.”
I don’t currently sense any consideration from the Rams to look into restructuring his 2024 money to create even more workable cap space, or to ask Donald to take less money. Donald is a future Hall of Famer who was an on- and off-the-field leader for a very inexperienced group in 2023. Further, it is not typically their style to push a player on communication during the break period of the season.
Donald’s salary in 2024, plus his public comments after the wild-card loss in Detroit, would normally not make this a question at all (other than in consideration of his age and previous retirement contemplation). He also has a no-trade clause in his contract.
Yet between McVay and Snead’s non-committal responses to direct public questions, plus ongoing questions behind the scenes from those league sources, this topic does bear monitoring.
If — if — Donald retires, there would suddenly be a $35 million financial swing that would affect other free agents, the Rams’ own free agency, a draft plan in April and certainly other teams. This is why league sources had questions in Indianapolis, including for the Rams directly — questions the team has yet to answer definitively, although the fifth day of the league year may do that for everyone.
Here are more odds and ends gathered from Indianapolis and back in Los Angeles:
• Snead said publicly that the Rams are in consistent communication with representation for starting center Coleman Shelton and starting guard Kevin Dotson. Both players are pending free agents who are expected to test their markets. The Rams would like to bring back both players and will attempt to do so as free agency begins.
Shelton voided a final year on his existing contract to become a free agent. League sources who are monitoring the offensive line market — where suddenly several centers are available — believe Shelton could certainly end up with mid-tier money but if he prefers to stay in Los Angeles, the Rams could work to get something palatable done for both sides.
The guard market is tougher to predict, with wild swings in price projections from $14 million to $20 million per year. I don’t believe that the Rams would overspend here, in consideration of the incoming draft class and their own resources. I can see them instead operating closer to the $12 million to $16 million range for that position.
• After speaking with people who are familiar with reserve offensive lineman Joe Noteboom’s situation, I believe a heavy contract restructure that would keep Noteboom in Los Angeles in a sixth-man role is on the table. The Rams could save almost $10 million against his current contract with such a restructure, instead employing him in the $4 million to $6 million range. Noteboom could also have the option to test the market — and that would likely mean a release, because the Rams will not keep him on his current $15 million salary in 2024. However, both McVay and Snead have publicly expressed their desire to retain Noteboom (his contract just has to be more team-friendly because he is no longer a starter).
• After speaking with league sources, I do not expect inside linebacker Christian Rozeboom, defensive tackle Jonah Williams or outside linebacker Michael Hoecht to receive tenders. The former UFAs could still return after testing free agency, but a tender would have been about $3 million for one year.
• Inside linebacker Ernest Jones is a candidate for an early extension and preliminary talks have begun, multiple sources briefed on those conversations said, but there isn’t a rush here from either side. The Rams usually do those types of deals after OTAs, or into training camp.
• Cornerback Ahkello Witherspoon and safeties Jordan Fuller and John Johnson III are expected to become free agents and test their respective markets. The Rams have had brief discussions with representation for all three players, but historically have not moved with urgency to sign safeties (with regard to Fuller and Johnson).
• The Rams are paying very close attention to the cornerback and edge rusher markets as free agency opens. As a reminder for this team — they do not “close for business” until the trade deadline in the fall.
znModeratorfrom Rodrigue, https://theathletic.com/5323006/2024/03/07/los-angeles-rams-aaron-donald-free-agency/?source=emp_shared_article
• After they wrapped their last training camp in August in Irvine, Calif., the Rams began considering their alternate site options for future camps. Any decision must be finalized (and announced) relatively soon this spring, because of the logistics involved in establishing a training camp.
March 6, 2024 at 11:18 pm in reply to: New thread (March): Rams & free agency + trade scenarios #149663
znModeratorVery good center FA and draft class. If your team needs one, plenty of options will be available.
Same at safety in FA. Lots of good options. https://t.co/29gN5wvalc
— Jon Ledyard (@LedyardNFLDraft) March 6, 2024
znModeratorThe #Bills were $40M over the salary cap entering today.
They've already released C Mitch Morse, S Jordan Poyer, CB Siran Neal and WR Deonte Harty…. And they are still over the cap.
So for the doubters… The salary cap is very real.
— Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) March 6, 2024
znModeratorKobie Turner makes PFF's top 101 players in football for 2023 (87th):
🔵 9 sacks in his last 8 games
🟡 50 total QB pressures— PFF LA Rams (@PFF_Rams) March 6, 2024
March 6, 2024 at 7:19 pm in reply to: New thread (March): Rams & free agency + trade scenarios #149660
znModeratorBREAKING: The #Rams are not tendering OLB/DT Michael Hoecht, sources tell @_MLFootball.
Hoecht finished the season with 6 sacks in his first year at OLB. A very bright, young player with a lot of upside.
Expected to generate significant interest on the open market, per sources pic.twitter.com/ejg7dAJfGG
— MLFootball (@_MLFootball) March 6, 2024
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znModerator2024 NFL Mock Draft Roundup: What do Rams projections look like post-combine?
Stu Jackson
With the annual NFL Scouting Combine a wrap, it’s another chance for a timely look at experts’ latest draft projections for the Rams.
Here’s a look at some of those forecasts as of Tuesday, March 5. All projections are for the Rams’ first-round pick (19th overall) unless noted otherwise.
The Athletic
Date: March 5Expert: Dane Brugler, NFL Draft Analyst
The pick(s): Florida State EDGE Jared Verse (pictured above)
Notes: A name that has come up in previous mock drafts for the Rams, the 6-foot-4, 254-pound Verse posted nine sacks, 41 total tackles, 11 QB hits, one forced fumble, one fumble recovery and one blocked kick for the Seminoles in 11 games played last season.
NFL.com
Date: March 4Expert: Lance Zierlein, Draft Analyst
The pick(s): Oklahoma OT Tyler Guyton (23rd overall, via projected trade with Texans)
Notes:In this projected trade back with the Texans, Zierlein has the Rams address their offensive line by getting 6-8, 322 Guyton, who primarily played right tackle for the Sooners but also has experience at left tackle. Guyton was an honorable mention All-Big 12 honoree for his performance in 10 games played, with nine starts at right tackle, last season.
“While the Rams have a variety of spots to fill, they also have the projected cap space to attack free agency,” Zierlein writes. “The chance to upgrade the left tackle spot in the draft is too good to pass up.”
Pro Football Focus
Date: March 4Expert: Gordan Guinness, NFL Analyst
The pick(s): Oregon QB Bo Nix
Notes: In this instance, PFF predicts the Rams to plan for the future.
“I ultimately think Nix — or whoever the fourth quarterback in this class winds up being — comes off the board earlier than this, but the fit here makes so much sense to me,” Guiness wrote as part of his analysis.
Nix departed the Ducks as their all-time leader in completion percentage at 74.9 (658-of-879), while also breaking Oregon’s single-season records for completions (364), passing yards (4,508) and passing TDs (45) in 2023. He also set the new NCAA single-season record for completion percentage last season at 77.45 (364-of-470).
USA TODAY
Date: March 4Expert: Nate Davis, NFL Reporter
The pick(s): UCLA DE Laiatu Latu
Notes: Latu has been a popular projection for the Rams throughout the offseason. Last year’s Pac-12 Defensive Player of the Year, he led the FBS with 1.8 tackles per game en route to winning the Lombardi Award and Ted Hendricks Award (nation’s top collegiate defensive end).
Los Angeles Times
Date: March 4Expert: Sam Farmer, NFL Reporter
The pick(s): Oregon C Jackson Powers-Johnson
Notes: Another common name amongst Rams projections, Powers-Johnson (6-3, 334) played four of the five offensive line positions in his three season at Oregon. In 2023, he didn’t allow a sack and gave up only one pressure across 471 pass-blocking snaps in 2023, according to Pro Football Focus, en route to unanimous All-American recognition and the Rimington Trophy (nation’s best center).
Pro Football Focus
Date: March 4Expert: Gordan Guinness, NFL Analyst
The pick(s): Oregon QB Bo Nix
Notes: In this instance, PFF predicts the Rams to plan for the future.
“I ultimately think Nix — or whoever the fourth quarterback in this class winds up being — comes off the board earlier than this, but the fit here makes so much sense to me,” Guiness wrote as part of his analysis.
Nix departed the Ducks as their all-time leader in completion percentage at 74.9 (658-of-879), while also breaking Oregon’s single-season records for completions (364), passing yards (4,508) and passing TDs (45) in 2023. He also set the new NCAA single-season record for completion percentage last season at 77.45 (364-of-470).
znModeratorJordan Schultz@Schultz_ReportThe #Jaguars are releasing cornerback Darious Williams, source tells @BleacherReport..Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigueWhile a Darious Williams reunion makes a lot of sense for the Rams, $ plus age would be two factors they would certainly weigh together. Williams does have familiarity with scheme & staff (Aubrey Pleasant plus new DC Chris Shula), is a leader, and they are not settled at corner..Sam Monson@PFF_SamThis is a good year to need CB help. Darious Williams is a good player if you keep him outside and don’t bump him to the slot just because he looks like he belongs there size wise. -
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