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    i think matt waldman put it well. he said something about not just beating the first man but using his vision to think several moves ahead to beat the defenders at the next level. faulk has talked about that as well.

    unreal vision. hopefully he can stay healthy.

    Yes, that was a thing Faulk had. Gurley is a completely different back physically of course but he does have that kind of vision. I also like the initial acceleration which if anything is going to be even better this year, or so you would think.

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    the behavior of quarks does not indicate that there’s anything beyond them. It’s the same with electrons.

    So I read around on this.

    That sentence is wrong. There are models out there that propose ways in which both quarks and electrons ARE made of smaller constituent particles.

    In other words, there IS behavior that suggests quarks and electrons are not elemental. I didn’t know that until I read around on this today.

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    Now my question is what are QUARKS made of and why in the world would you say “its unlikely” quarks are made of something smaller?

    Well, matter can’t be made of quarks, because without electrons orbitting a proton- that’s- made- of- quarks, there is no atom, and matter in all its forms…gas, liquid, solid…is made of atoms.

    How do they know quarks aren’t made of anything else? Well that’s tricky because it’s hard to study quarks (for a lot of reasons which are in this conversation beside the point), but even given that, the behavior of quarks does not indicate that there’s anything beyond them. It’s the same with electrons. Meanwhile they even discovered quarks in the first placve because protons did funny things when studied that indicated they were not elemental or irreducible, so that fact was suspected long before the nature of quarks was reveated.

    It’s not a TOTAL mystery. There are mysterious elements to the question “what is everything made of.”

    We can say some things definitively.

    For example, dark matter can’t be made of something, which, say, in your hypothetical take, quarks might be made of. The reason for that is simple. Quarks interact with at least 2 of the major forces defining the universe—electromagnetism and the so-called “strong force.” Dark matter by definition does not interact with either force, or if it does it does so so weakly it is still undetectable. That has at least one consequence. If dark matter does not interact with the electro magnetic force, then it can’t be seen. One effect of not interacting with e-m is that it does not reflect, absorb, or otherwise have anything to do with photons, so it is inherently NOT seeable. It also means that it can fly right by and/or through normal atoms without any effect (because the interactions between atoms has to do with electromagnetic attraction and repulsion). So for all you know billions of dark matter particles are flowing right through you right now. We know about dark matter because it interacts with only one elemental force—gravity. So masses of dark matter can be detected because we can measure its effects on large bodies such as galaxies. This has been shown, in very precise detail.

    They have actually devised incredibly sophisticated ways of testing and measuring all of this (ie. the behaviors of quarks, electrons, and protons etc.) The science of that is uber-sophisticated. So when people say it’s unlikely quarks and electrons are made of something else, it’s based on real evidence and real study. It’s not just this shot in the dark.

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    Q&A: Rams head coach Jeff Fisher on big move to LA, free agency and SoCal traffic

    Advice for players from Rams head coach Jeff Fisher: Living in Orange County and training in Thousand Oaks, it’s not going to work.

    By Vincent Bonsignore, Los Angeles Daily News

    http://www.dailynews.com/sports/20160324/qa-rams-head-coach-jeff-fisher-on-big-move-to-la-free-agency-and-socal-traffic

    BOCA RATON – With the Rams headed to Los Angeles, head coach Jeff Fisher fielded questions on a number of different topics at the NFL’s annual league meetings in Florida.

    Q: Case Keenum has been named the starting quarterback. What has he shown you in his time with the Rams?

    JF: “When we first watched Case play, we just thought he was (a) very talented, very productive, instinctive-type player that moves around and makes plays. When we had the first time to get him in, we saw every bit of that.

    Then (Houston Texans General Manager) Rick (Smith) called and said, ‘Hey, sorry, but I’m going to have borrow Case from you for a little bit – off the practice squad. We’ll make him available to you after.’ And I said, ‘What does that mean?’ Well, it meant a seventh (round draft pick) – or whatever it was.

    Anyway, we got Case back. Nick (Foles) had kind of flattened out and was having a rough time a little bit last year, and we decided to go with Case. I thought he did a really nice job. We’re a blocked field goal away in the final game at San Francisco from winning four straight with Case.”

    Q: What part of Case’s job as QB is to sell the team to the fans and media and how much is it about just football?

    JF: “He’ll be all football, but they’re going to be curious about Case because he’s our quarterback. I think he’ll step in the door, all football. But, he’ll do that by winning games. I think that’s how he was when he backed up.”

    Q: You were the head coach of the Oilers when they moved to Tennessee. How does that experience help in this move?

    JF: “I think just from a players’ standpoint, relatively speaking, the most important thing from our perspective is what you do with the players and how you handle the players and your ability to communicate with them. We learned that in a lot of ways the hard way with the first move.

    The major lesson that were learned is you have to stay in constant communication with the players and let them know when, where and how – whenever you can. We’ve started that process with that meeting, which went really well.”

    Q: Have you noticed any technological differences this time around compared to the Oilers move?

    JF: “Back then, for coaches, you grabbed your Beta (video) machine and your monitor, and that was all you had. As long as you took that with you, you got your tapes and you were fine. But now we’ve got all kinds of systems. We’ve got scouting systems, we’ve got EXOS, we’ve got football systems – we have everything.

    It’s all electronic, so you have to make sure it’s all up and running with servers and things like that. It’s a little bit more sophisticated than that. You need Wi-Fi in the rooms and all of those things. But our guys are capable of getting everything set up, and they’ve ensured us that they will be set up in plenty of time.”

    Q: Do free-agent players and draft prospects ask about the move?

    JF: “Yes. Everybody wants to know. Any time we express interest or someone has interest in us, that’s where we go first. We had several guys in. We had what we call top 30 visits – we had three of our top 30 visits. These were non-combine players. We had them in to St. Louis.

    The approach was, you’re experiencing history here. You walk down the halls, and there’s nothing left on the walls. Boxes are packed, and some things are stacked in my office. Coaches’ boards are down, and there’s no video to watch. If they had any question of whether we were moving or not, those were answered.”

    Q: At what point does this cease to be about relocation and become just football?

    JF: “Well, our approach is that the rest of the league doesn’t care what we’re doing. There are 31 other teams that are getting ready for the offseason program and training camp and the regular season, so we have to do the same thing. The sooner we get set up and ready to go, the better off we’re going to be.

    I’m not looking at this as a distraction or an excuse. We have to develop younger players. We still have a few players that we have some interest in, in the second-tier of free agency. Obviously, we have a lot of work to do right now with the staff and the scouting department to get on the same page in respect to the draft, and we’ll go from there.

    Wherever we open, we know where we’re playing home games, but whether we open at home or open on the road – they count. Players know that.”

    Q: How much have you talked to the players about the major lifestyle change coming?

    JF: “First and foremost, you’ve got to talk to them and tell them where we’re going to be located and where we’re going to be training. We’ve done that. We’ve had this meeting with them already.

    We’re constantly talking to them, not necessarily about the lifestyle change but where you’re going to relocate. As we’ve told them, there’s traffic patterns, and we’ve explained to them the travel distance from a lot of different areas. They have a general idea where we’re going to set up our temporary (facility). Now, a temporary’s one thing and it’s important because it’s probably three years. So, for the next three years, in September, you’re basically working out at the same facility. You’re going to want to live somewhere in the vicinity of that temporary facility for the next three years.

    Our hope is that the permanent (facility) is also built in the same area so we don’t have to move twice.

    With respect to the players, yes, we spend a lot of time with them. You can’t live in Orange County and train in Thousand Oaks. You just can’t. Not with the hours that we put in. We have to be on time. We have meeting start times that fluctuate during the regular season. We have meeting end times that fluctuate, so they need to be on time. We also had some former players come in and talk about that – guys that were familiar with LA. They have been given direction, and they appreciate it.

    Q: Do you feel you achieved what you wanted in free agency thus far?

    JF: “Our players that we were able to retain (include) some of our guys that were important to us. We knew going in that there was a chance that we were probably going to lose one of the four defensive backs, I didn’t anticipate losing two. But, we have depth on our roster. We’ve drafted … (S) Cody (Davis who) proved last year that he has athletic ability, can play. (S) Maurice (Alexander) can play. We have (S) T.J. (McDonald) coming back. (CB) E.J. (Gaines) is a starter who is coming back. Important to us were (DE) Will Hayes and (DE) Eugene Sims and (C) Tim Barnes – talking about starters or almost starters for us. And (TE) Cory Harkey – these guys were important to us. We were very pleased that we were able to get them back.”

    As we got into it, our focus, specifically, was to address the defense because we had the potential to lose quite a few players. To think that we kept (S) Mark (Barron) and (DE) Eugene (Sims) and (DE) William (Hayes), that’s good stuff from our standpoint to be able to hang on to them because there was considerable interest out there. Then to be able to lock (CB) ‘Tru’ (Trumaine Johnson) up for hopefully a long time is beneficial.”

    Q: Where do you see improvements coming offensively?

    JF: “I think it’s a combination. There’s still some players out there. We did re-sign our starting center (Tim Barnes), so it starts there. But, yes, I still think there’s players out there. No. 1, we’ll turn to the draft, No. 2, and also implied that we’ve said this … I’ve said this for a long time and we were able to accomplish it last year was I’ve always wanted to draft four or five offensive linemen in the same draft, and we did that. They all got to play and all developed. A need now becomes a strength for us. Obviously, having drafted (RB) Todd (Gurley) and (with WR/PR) Tavon’s (Austin) production, some potential tweaks on offense – we’re going to be productive.”

    Q: You lost starting CB Janoris Jenkins in free agency. Can you touch on that loss:

    JF: “We were a lot closer than people think. I was a little disappointed. I thought we’d get him. He really wanted to come back. I spoke to him several times during the process and prior to the process. I expected that we were going to get things worked out. The money did take off. The market was there, but we were a lot closer than people think. I was disappointed to see him go, but this is the first time since we’ve been here that we’ve had to deal with unrestricted free agents … because we drafted him, what, four years ago? We developed them and (are) now trying to keep them while we can. The staff did a great job, especially developing the DBs. You can see it.”

    Q: You signed CB Coty Sensabaugh and DE Quinton Coples. What do you like about each player?

    JF: “Coty’s an instinctive, smart, productive player that can plug in and play either side. He sees things well. He relates. He doesn’t have any difficulty learning defenses. He just makes plays. Coples, on the other hand, we think he’s probably better suited with his hand down and rushing in an even front type of thing. Now, we’ll do some variation stuff with him, but he was just a little out of place. Between his willingness and his lack of production and his ability to spend time with (defensive line coach Mike) ‘Wauf’ (Waufle), I think that will translate into some good things for him. I think it will translate into some solid production for us as a backup (defensive) end.”

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    Rich Eisen @richeisen
    My colleague @MikeSilver was in the room when the Rams drafted @MichaelSam — does he think a conspiracy was afoot?

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    Come on, man

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    Jeff Fisher: Hard Knocks-Michael Sam story is “absolutely absurd”

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    League Made Deal with Rams to Draft Sam

    Howard Balzer March 23, 2016

    http://590thefan.com/league-made-deal-with-rams-to-draft-sam

    It’s been almost two years since the St. Louis Rams selected defensive end Michael Sam in the seventh round of the 2014 draft. At the time, the Rams were hailed for being progressive and drafting the first openly gay player in the National Football League. It turns out, according to multiple sources, that the league agreed not to ask the Rams to appear that year on HBO’s yearly summer series, HARD KNOCKS, if they drafted Sam.

    Shortly after his college career at Missouri ended, Sam came put publicly, acknowledging he is gay. The SEC Co-Defensive Player of the Year in 2013, Sam was considered a fifth-round pick at best. But, as the draft proceeded on the final day, it appeared he might not be drafted at all. It is believed the NFL didn’t want to face questions about that eventuality, and the Rams were viewed as the ideal spot because of St. Louis’ proximity to the Missouri campus in Columbia, 90 miles away, and head coach Jeff Fisher’s ability to deal with whatever distractions there might be.

    So it was that the Rams saved the day, selecting Sam with the 249th pick of a 256-player draft. Now, they have returned the favor.

    Two years later, the Rams are now in Los Angeles, and as the annual league meeting closed Wednesday, in one of the earliest announcements ever, the NFL revealed that the Rams will be the featured team this summer on HARD KNOCKS.

    It’s no surprise the league wants to showcase the return to a market that has been without a team since 1994. What’s somewhat odd, but understandable in light of the revelation, is that the Rams are now embracing the intrusion of HBO’s cameras in a year in which the distractions and logistics of the move will be a challenge for the organization, coaches and players. Especially since Rams head coach Jeff Fisher has consistently been opposed to having his team on the show.

    In fact, in 2014, about two weeks after the draft and the selection of Sam, Fisher was asked about the possibility of the league picking the Rams for the TV show. If no team volunteers to be a part of HARD KNOCKS, the league can pick a team that hasn’t been on the show for 10 years, or doesn’t have a new head coach, or hasn’t made the playoffs for two years. The Rams qualified on all counts.

    Fisher said, “We are eligible, but I think it’s highly unlikely they’d ask us to do it. I think this organization has a right to go through training camp with some normalcy.”

    Of course, that “normalcy” included a record number of press conferences for a seventh-round draft pick, plus having an ESPN report late in training camp in which teammates were asked about their shower habits and those of Sam. By a woman reporter, Josina Anderson.

    And, as if there will be any “normalcy” this offseason, training camp and regular season. In a press release announcing the decision, Fisher said, “This is an exciting time for our franchise. HARD KNOCKS will be an outstanding way to bring our fans into our training camp and preseason, and give a glimpse of the hard work and dedication of our players, coaches and staff as we prepare for the 2016 season.”

    Of course, none of those players will be Sam, who was waived in the cutdown to 53 players in 2014, was briefly on the Dallas Cowboys’ practice squad that season, and then left the Montreal Alouettes of the Canadian Football League in the summer of 2015 without playing in a game.

    One player still with the Rams is defensive end Ethan Westbrooks, who earned a roster spot as an undrafted free agent the same year as Sam. His story is an interesting postscript to the Sam saga. The Rams were high on Westbrooks, and he was apparently the team’s target for one of their two late seventh-round picks. However, center Demetrius Rhaney was selected one spot after Sam, as it would have been unseemly to take Westbrooks there.

    There is no direct evidence that the teams picking after the Rams were urged (told?) not to draft Westbrooks, but would anyone be surprised if that was the case as a thank-you to the Rams for taking everyone off the hook?

    After all, Westbrooks received an unusually large $20,000 signing bonus in addition to having $30,000 of his first-year salary guaranteed. In the world of the NFL, that’s not a large sum of money. What’s notable is that the $50,000 total guarantee was more than the slotted signing bonus/guaranteed money of $45,896 that all of the seventh-round compensatory picks received, including Sam.

    In addition, to steer attention away from Westbrooks as it related to any obvious competition initially with Sam, the Rams announced when signing him that the lanky, 267-pound player was a defensive tackle.

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    One of the best pro days I’ve ever witnessed. Wentz reminds me of Joe Flacco. He had 2 55-yard passes that were as pretty as I’ve seen.

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    Jeff Fisher: Hard Knocks-Michael Sam story is “absolutely absurd”

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    Jeff Fisher: Hard Knocks-Michael Sam story is “absolutely absurd”

    Rams coach Jeff Fisher is scoffing at a report that he drafted Michael Sam, the NFL’s first openly gay player, two years ago in a quid pro quo with the NFL to keep his team off Hard Knocks.

    Asked about the report this morning on Mike & Mike, Fisher said there was never any such discussion with the NFL, and the Rams selected Sam solely because he was the highest-ranked player on their draft board at the time the pick came up.

    “That in itself is absolutely absurd, it’s 100 percent incorrect,” Fisher said. “I was really taken aback by those comments. It’s insulting, from my standpoint, as it relates to Michael. We had three seventh-round picks. When we drafted Michael he was the best player on the board. Who in their right mind would think that you give up a draft choice to avoid doing something like that?”

    Fisher said he thinks Sam has been subjected to unfair scrutiny that most seventh-round picks fighting for a roster spot don’t have to face.

    “It’s really unfair to Michael. Michael worked so hard,” Fisher said. “It’s really not fair to Michael because of all the hard work he put in.”

    The Rams have agreed to do Hard Knocks this year as they move to Los Angeles, and Fisher said he’s looking forward to it.

    “I think it’s a great opportunity for our franchise,” Fisher said. “This is a historic move. The moves in the past have not been documented and I think it’s a great opportunity.”

    If the Rams want a lot of attention for this year’s Hard Knocks, perhaps they should re-sign Sam.

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    McShay Goes WR, QB, CB for the Los Angeles Rams In Two Rounds

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    http://www.turfshowtimes.com/2016/3/24/11297802/nfl-mock-draft-espn-todd-mcshay-los-angeles-rams-treadwell-hackenberg-burns

    The Los Angeles Rams have three picks in the first two rounds of the 2016 NFL Draft, and are in a great position to address positions of need. Just how they’ll use those picks, at this point, is anyone’s guess.

    The Rams, in the eyes of many, should be targeting a quarterback. They’ve also lost a few key starters from last year, and could be eyeing their replacements in late April.

    Over at ESPN, NFL Draft expert Todd McShay released his two-round mock draft [In$ider] on Thursday morning. Here’s what he did for the Rams with three picks inside the Top 50:

    15. Laquon Treadwell, WR, Ole Miss

    Case Keenum is penciled in as the starting QB right now, so there’s always a chance the Rams will try to trade up to grab one of the top-two passers. But with this being too early for Paxton Lynch and Los Angeles still needing a legit difference maker on the outside, Treadwell is the pick. He’s the best pure WR in this class, showing outstanding hand-eye coordination and body control.

    43. Christian Hackenberg, QB, Penn State

    Hackenberg had his best season when playing under current Texans coach Bill O’Brien. He has ideal size, a big-league arm and adequate pocket mobility. But his decision-making must improve.

    45. Artie Burns, CB, Miami (FL)

    Burns’ extremely long arms (33¼ inches) and ability to play press coverage give him a lot of upside as a cornerback. He had a career-high six interceptions in 2015 after having just one pick during his prior two seasons.

    It should be noted, for those without In$ider, that the draft’s top QB’s Carson Wentz and Jared Goff were off the board at 2 [Browns] and 7 [49ers] respectively. The Rams did, however, pass on Paxton Lynch at 15 for the draft’s top wideout Laquon Treadwell.

    Other notable names/potential fits left on the board after the Rams picked at 45: Jaylon Smith [LB, Notre Dame], Hunter Henry [TE, Arkansas], Michael Thomas [WR, Ohio State], Braxton Miller [WR, Ohio State][

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    Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora
    Browns signing RG3 should lead to a McCown trade. Team has notified it’s other QBs of Griffin’s signing.

    Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora
    The Browns are signing RG3 as expected. They were only team showing real interest to this point

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    The #Browns signed RGIII to a 2-year deal worth $15M, source said. He gets 6.75M guaranteed. Large investment.

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    ut how do you wrap your head around the idea that something is made of nothing but…itself? Is it absurd, illogical, or just hard to understand?

    It looks like I didn’t understand your question?

    Anyway in terms of that bit…I don’t find that proposition absurd at all, or hard to understand. I can see how when you analyze the universe down you end up with these irreducible things that are, yes, made (in each case) entirely from the same substance, so consist of nothing but themselves. So an electron is all whatever it is, a photon is all whatever it is, and a quark is all whatever IT is.

    I mean…why not. What’s strange about that.

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    That is my question. I would like some input on this. What, if anything, does science say about this question?

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    Wiki seems to think the answer is Unknown.
    Yes? No?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universe
    Particles

    Ordinary matter and the forces that act on matter can be described in terms of elementary particles.[95] These particles are sometimes described as being fundamental, since they have an unknown substructure, and it is unknown whether or not they are composed of smaller and even more fundamental particles.[96][97] Of central importance is the Standard Model, a theory that is concerned with electromagnetic interactions and the weak and strong nuclear interactions.[98] The Standard Model is supported by the experimental confirmation of the existence of particles that compose matter: quarks and leptons, and their corresponding “antimatter” duals, as well as the force particles that mediate interactions: the photon, the W and Z bosons, and the gluon.[96] The Standard Model predicted the existence of the recently discovered Higgs boson, a particle that is a manifestation of a field within the Universe that can endow particles with mass.[99][100] Because of its success in explaining a wide variety of experimental results, the Standard Model is sometimes regarded as a “theory of almost everything”.[98] The Standard Model does not, however, accommodate gravity. A true force-particle “theory of everything” has not been attained.[101]
    Hadrons

    It is unknown but not likely that elemental particles consist of something else.

    To drive this home, it used to be that science thought protons and neutrons, like electrons, were elemental particles. That is, they were just themselves and did not consist of anything else.

    They then found out that both protons and neutrons are really made of another elemental particle–quarks. There are different types of quarks and when you combine the right kinds in groups of three, you end up with protons and neutrons.

    Near as anyone knows right now quarks, in turn, don’t consist of anything else. But then it’s hard to say, because it is very tricky to study quarks. We have no way of splitting them as we do with protons.

    In terms of what matter is, goes like this. You combine the right kinds of quarks and you get protons. Protons attract electrons which attach to them following the very weird and precise rules for how that happens. Once you have combined an electron and a proton you have an atom, and the rest flows from there, all the way up to a universe that includes stars and planets and deflated footballs etc.

    Don’t know if that helps or not.

    But then as I said, it is true that what we call energy/matter…including electrons and photons etc. plus atoms…makes up a small percentage of the universe. Like, 5%. The rest is what they call dark matter and dark energy, and no one knows yet what either of those things “are.” We know they exist we just don’t know what they are.

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    Apparently there’s more dark energy and dark matter in the universe than what we think of as energy/matter.

    That’s not how I would have done it but then no one asked me.

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    But is it fair for the NFL to place teams in London or Munich or Seoul where American football is just a novelty at best when cities with an established football tradition and long-time fans like St. Louis don’t have one?

    Dear communist: St. Louis failed on the one thing that matters—revenue.

    Given that the NFL belongs in China because the Chinese are willing to spend on it. That way we can get back some of the money we sent there for them making the jerseys. So spare us your sentimental communist ideas.

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    One also has to ask, if Balzer knew about this,
    why is it just coming out now

    Just speculating, but, if it IS real, why is it coming out now? Former employees left behind, maybe one is in the mood and now free to talk.

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    By Rich Hammond

    http://www.ocregister.com/articles/move-709440-rams-reporter.html

    MASON DATE SET

    Rams running back Tre Mason faces arraignment on April 11 in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., on four misdemeanor charges after his arrest this month.

    Mason faces charges of resisting an officer without violence, possession of less than 20 grams of marijuana, reckless driving and failure to register a motor vehicle, according to documents published on the Broward County (Fla.) courts website.

    Police in Hollywood, Fla., arrested Mason on March 5 and claimed that while driving a sports car, Mason failed to pull over for a traffic stop then physically resisted officers’ attempts to get him out of the car. Police reported finding 12 grams of marijuana in various stages of use’’ inside Mason’s car.

    Court documents did not specify Mason’s possible punishment, should he be found guilty on any of the charges.

    I can’t really comment on the specifics until we get all of the stuff,’’ Fisher told reporters Wednesday, and we’re working with the league on that. I’m expecting Tre to be present for the off-season program. I know he’s extremely embarrassed, as to the incident, but we don’t have the facts yet. We’re still waiting on that.

    To me, it was a little uncharacteristic of him and if in fact what was reported is true then I’ll be really disappointed. But, we don’t have the information yet.’’

    Mason, 22, is considered the Rams’ primary backup to running back Todd Gurley. In 2015, his second NFL season, Mason rushed for 207 yards and one touchdown on 75 carries.

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    Rams agreed with NFL to not do ‘Hard Knocks’ in 2014 if they drafted Michael Sam: report

    BY EBENEZER SAMUEL

    http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/rams-agreed-draft-michael-sam-avoid-hard-knocks-article-1.2575617

    Michael Sam was selected in the seventh round of the 2014 NFL Draft but it may have only been because of a deal the Rams cut with the NFL.
    On Wednesday, the Rams were named the subject of this year’s edition of “Hard Knocks,” the HBO show that takes you inside training camp with an NFL team, but according to a tweet from veteran NFL journalist Howard Balzer, they could have been in the show two years earlier were it not for a behind-the-scenes deal with the NFL.

    Balzer, citing “sources,” tweeted Wednesday that the Rams avoided the 2014 edition of “Hard Knocks” because of their decision to select Michael Sam, the first openly gay player to declare for the NFL draft, in the seventh round that year.

    “Sources say NFL agreed not to have Rams on Hard Knocks in 2014 if they drafted Michael Sam,” Balzer tweeted.

    Balzer clarified the tweet several hours later, stressing that it was a predraft arrangement between the league and team to save face and insure that the first openly gay player to declare for the NFL draft did not go undrafted.

    “That’s correct,” he tweeted. “Rams didn’t want Hard Knocks even without Sam. League concerned he wouldn’t be drafted. Deal made.”

    Neither the NFL nor the Rams responded to emails for comment. But none of this shocked Sam. Sam, who has been out of the NFL since October 2014 and is currently under contract with the Montreal Allouettes of the CFL, retweeted Balzer to make that point.

    “I’m not surprised at all,” Sam tweeted.

    If true, the report paints a highly questionable picture of Goodell as a commissioner who essentially manipulated the back end of the NFL draft. And it paints the picture of a league desperate to avoid a PR nightmare in 2014.

    Entering the 2014 NFL draft, Sam was widely considered a fringe prospect, with little buzz. After his public announcement, his draft stock seemed all over the board, with some analysts pointing to his status as SEC defensive player of the year and pegging him as a fourth-round pick.

    Others, though, noted his slow 40-yard dash time (4.91 seconds at the NFL Scouting Combine), lack of pass rush moves, and tweener size (261 pounds) and suggested he was a late-round pick at best, undrafted at worst. The baggage he carried seemed destined to torpedo his stock even further.

    “You have the theory, which is the right theory, which is what every official is going to say,” one NFL agent said at the time. “And then you also have the reality. How is it going to affect my team chemistry? That is the unspoken analysis that is going to take place in every war room.”

    According to Balzer, that set the stage for the Rams to serve as the league’s safety net. The Rams drafted Sam with the 249th overall pick, just seven picks before the end of the final round of the draft.

    The Atlanta Falcons, meanwhile, wound up serving on “Hard Knocks,” as the Rams avoided the show, which most NFL teams view as a training camp distraction because of the constant presence of HBO’s television cameras.

    Sam did not last long with the Rams, either, failing to make the final 53-man roster just before the start of the regular season.

    He was beaten out by another defensive lineman, undrafted Ethan Westbrooks, supposedly because Westbrooks could play multiple positions while Sam was strictly an undersized defensive end.

    Even after Sam cleared waivers, the Rams had so little interest that they did not add him to their practice squad. The Dallas Cowboys signed Sam to their practice squad in early September only to cut him the following month.

    Sam has not played in the NFL since, although he tried unsuccessfully to rekindle interest from the league at last year’s NFL Veteran Combine, where he clocked a 4.99-second 40-yard dash.

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    Student Of The Game. @olineperformance

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    Jeff Fisher: NFL to see more ‘hybrid guys’ like Barron

    Chris Wesseling

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000647142/article/jeff-fisher-nfl-to-see-more-hybrid-guys-like-barron

    When the Rams acquired former Buccaneers safety Mark Barron at the 2014 trade deadline, the No. 7 overall pick in the 2012 NFL Draft fetched just fourth- and sixth-round draft picks in return.

    Six months later, the Rams thought so little of Barron’s value that they declined the fifth-year option on his rookie contract.

    Now Barron is the proud owner of a five-year, $45 million contract after successfully transitioning from safety to weakside linebacker when Alec Ogletree went down with a season-ending injury last October.

    The position switch was an unqualified success, as Barron led the league in total stuffs — a statistic that tracks tackles behind the line of scrimmage.

    Speaking at the NFL owners meeting on Wednesday, Rams coach Jeff Fisher touched on Barron, Cardinals “moneybacker” Deone Bucannon and the rise of the hybrid player in modern football.

    “(Bucannon) was that type of player coming out, you could tell,” Fisher said. “… We’re experiencing the same thing in L.A. right now, having re-signed Mark Barron. Same type of player, same responsibilities behind the line of scrimmage, sideline to sideline, matches tight ends, does the same things. An undersized linebacker, an oversized defensive back.

    “It appears with the two of them … there will be more of those hybrid guys that are kind of in between.”

    The concept of a linebacker/safety hybrid is not new to professional football. Monstrous box safety Kam Chancellor has moonlighted as a linebacker for a historically great Seahawks defense. Going back three decades, David Fulcher of the Bengals and Steve Atwater of the Broncos stalked the gridiron as linebacker-sized safeties, dominating the era prior to the pass-heavy 21st century.

    The recent success of Barron and Bucannon will pave the way for more hybrid prospects such as USC star Su’a Cravens.

    Asked to describe Bucannon’s position, coordinator James Bettcher has essentially explained, “He is where he plays.”

    That goes double for teammate Tyrann Mathieu, who made a serious run at Defensive Player of the Year honors while lining up in the slot, at both safety positions and even at outside linebacker.

    Will Bettcher’s mindset become more prevalent at other positions?

    Viewed as “tweeners” coming out of college, Michael Bennett went undrafted while Malik Jackson fell to the fifth-round. Now Bennett is regarded as one of the game’s most disruptive defensive linemen and Jackson is collecting $42 million in guarantees after wrecking backfields throughout the postseason.

    It’s a good bet that coaches and personnel executives will start placing more value on defensive end-tackle hybrids going forward, just as Mathieu, Bucannon and Barron have raised the profile of versatile defensive backs

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    I haven’t read any opinions the guy has authored but he’s reported to be -hold your nose-a “centrist”.

    No one “holds their noses at centrists.”

    What we have actually said, instead, is that it’s a position among others with its own biases and tendencies. The thing NOT to do is pretend it’s just natural “truth.” It is simply one position among others, and rhetorical disguises don’t cover that fact up very well.

    That’s not an attack on centrism, it’s a critique of the rhetorical disguise which equates it with “natural basic truth.”

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    “…And of all the historical products of the human imagination, perhaps the most decisive and far-reaching has been the idea that there exists such a thing as an “intelligence”, installed in the heads of each and every one of us, and that is ultimately responsible for our activities.” (2000:419)

    Whats he saying there?

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    It’s following a revolution in various sciences including psychology but others as well.

    The idea is that there’s no single measurable mental capacity called “intelligence”—what we call “intelligence” is many different kinds of things, which each of us have in varying degrees. The writer in that case is taking advantage of what he believes to be his readers awareness of this shifting in thinking, away from “intelligence” being a single measurable capacity to it being a variety of different cognitive practices which can vary in their relative strength.

    Wiki stuff——>

    From “Intelligence: Knowns and Unknowns” (1995), a report published by the Board of Scientific Affairs of the American Psychological Association:

    Individuals differ from one another in their ability to understand complex ideas, to adapt effectively to the environment, to learn from experience, to engage in various forms of reasoning, to overcome obstacles by taking thought. Although these individual differences can be substantial, they are never entirely consistent: a given person’s intellectual performance will vary on different occasions, in different domains, as judged by different criteria. Concepts of “intelligence” are attempts to clarify and organize this complex set of phenomena. Although considerable clarity has been achieved in some areas, no such conceptualization has yet answered all the important questions, and none commands universal assent. Indeed, when two dozen prominent theorists were recently asked to define intelligence, they gave two dozen, somewhat different, definitions.

    A famous biologist’s view of this comes from Gould. Also wiki stuff—>

    The Mismeasure of Man is a 1981 book by evolutionary biologist, paleontologist, and historian of science Stephen Jay Gould, who was then a professor of geology at Harvard. The book is both a history and critique of the statistical methods and cultural motivations underlying biological determinism, the belief that “the social and economic differences between human groups—primarily races, classes, and sexes—arise from inherited, inborn distinctions and that society, in this sense, is an accurate reflection of biology.” The principal theme of biological determinism—that “worth can be assigned to individuals and groups by measuring intelligence as a single quantity“—is analyzed in discussions of craniometry and psychological testing, the two methods used to measure and establish intelligence as a single quantity. According to Gould, the methods harbor “two deep fallacies.” The first is the fallacy of “reification”, which is “our tendency to convert abstract concepts into entities” such as the intelligence quotient (IQ) and the general intelligence factor (g factor), which have been the cornerstones of much research into human intelligence. The second fallacy is “ranking”, which is the “propensity for ordering complex variation as a gradual ascending scale.”

    The revised and expanded, second edition of the Mismeasure of Man (1996) analyzes and challenges the methodological accuracy of The Bell Curve (1994), by Richard Herrnstein and Charles Murray, which re-presented the arguments of what Gould terms biological determinism, which he defines as “the abstraction of intelligence as a single entity, its location within the brain, its quantification as one number for each individual, and the use of these numbers to rank people in a single series of worthiness, invariably to find that oppressed and disadvantaged groups—races, classes, or sexes—are innately inferior and deserve their status.”

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    Rams Coach Jeff Fisher Evaluates Quarterbacks Carson Wentz and Jared Goff

    By Gary Klein

    http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-rams-jeff-fisher-carson-wentz-jared-goff-20160323-story.html

    He watched quarterbacks Carson Wentz and Jared Goff at last month’s NFL scouting combine and also evaluated their college game performances.

    He has acknowledged that his team is seeking an upgrade at quarterback.

    But Rams Coach Jeff Fisher on Wednesday provided no clue as to whether the club would try to trade up from the No. 15 pick in the April draft to select one of the prospects.

    “They’re good players,” Fisher deadpanned while meeting with reporters at the annual NFL owners’ meeting. “They’ll play in the league.”

    Case Keenum is the Rams’ presumptive starter going into off-season workouts. Nick Foles and Sean Mannion also are on the roster.

    Wentz, 6-foot-5 and 237 pounds, played at North Dakota State. The 6-4, 214-pound Goff played at California.

    “Wentz is obviously very smart,” Fisher said. “I don’t think he’s ever gotten a B in his life.

    “He’s got the leadership qualities. And from a football standpoint, he’s got all the traits — the arm strength and decision-making ability, and he can make all the throws.

    “The same thing with Goff, too. Not every quarterback coming out is going to have that same personality. All their personality types are different. But both of them are perfect for the NFL, get in the huddle and to lead and win games.”

    The Rams also could resort to free agency for a quarterback.

    Robert Griffin III, released by the Washington Redskins, remains on the market. The Redskins selected Griffin in 2012 after making a draft-day trade with the Rams for the No. 2 overall pick.

    “I think it’s something we have to consider,” Fisher said this week in a television interview . “We’ve looked at the tape. I’ve always been very impressed with him prior to the draft.”

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    Are they sure it’s not the other way around?

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    Dunno what this is: “… and doing away with multiple enforcement spots for a double foul after a change of possession.”

    I just took it as the league making excuses for Fisher.

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    There have been studies of gender by historians, sociologists, anthropologists, cultural theorists, philosophers, pyschologists, and so on, for decades now. The evidence is piled sky high and covers many fields of inquiry. Knowing as much as I can about all that in its own right is what interests me, personally.

    Anthropology, Sex, Gender, Sexuality: Gender is a Social Construction

    BY JASON ANTROSIO

    link: http://www.livinganthropologically.com/2012/05/16/anthropology-sex-gender-sexuality-social-constructions/

    What does it mean to say “gender is a social construction”? Too much ink and internet time has already been spilled on such questions, but definitional issues and conceptual difficulties remain entrenched, even in academia where people should know better.

    A first issue is ongoing confusion around shorthand phrases like “gender is a social construction” or the phrase “race is a social construction.” I avoid such shorthands because they so quickly lead to an assumption that by “social construction” there is a denial of reality, or an implication that–as one biologist put it–people “generate their own truths based on their own experiences and imaginations.”

    What “Gender is a Social Construction” Does Not Mean

    When social scientists use shorthand phrases like “gender is a social construction” they are

    in no way denying that humans vary biologically in many different ways, or claiming that biology is irrelevant;
    not trying to say that these social effects are somehow not real or important; and
    not saying that they are necessarily subject to extensive individual manipulation.
    Those shorthands simply indicate that many observed behavioral characteristics and life experiences are heavily influenced by social expectations, norms, and roles. But that doesn’t mean they aren’t real–they are quite real and can become biologically real as well. One example of a social construction–look no further than ideas about Gun Control.

    The reality of social constructions is something anthropologist Jeremy Trombley succinctly tackled:

    We have to get past the idea that things that are socially constructed are somehow not real. I encountered it again today in something I was reading. “X is socially constructed” or “X are social constructs” as if to say they are only or just social constructs–as if to say X is not real. But social constructs are real–that’s what makes them so powerful. Race, Class, Gender–these are all social constructs, but it is because they are socially constructed that they have tremendous effects on the lives of people who live in a particular society.
    Trombley has also recommended The Reality of Social Construction(now in paperback). From the book-jacket:

    “Social construction” is a central metaphor in contemporary social science, yet it is used and understood in widely divergent and indeed conflicting ways by different thinkers. Most commonly, it is seen as radically opposed to realist social theory. Dave Elder-Vass argues that social scientists should be both realists and social constructionists, and that coherent versions of these ways of thinking are entirely compatible with each other.
    I agree with Trombley on the need to emphasize the reality of social constructions, but Elder-Vass’s book would never have needed to be written if the idea hadn’t been misinterpreted from the beginning. Social construction and realism never should have been opposed.

    A related example: Money is obviously a social construction. We all choose to believe that pieces of paper with pictures of people on them (or electronic bits without any visible reality) have value and can be used to purchase real things in the world. We trust that when we exchange something for those bits of paper or computer bytes, it is because the next person in the chain will also accept that as real currency.

    We could also do an anthropological tour through different times and places and marvel at all the different kinds of objects pressed into the service of currency–that’s one part of an answer to What is Anthropology? We can readily agree that money is a social construction. But that doesn’t make it not real! It has a direct influence on life chances, experiences, ability to do things. It can have very real biological effects, like hunger and even starvation–the bodies and motor habits of the poor and rich can turn them into quite biologically different creatures. Moreover, simply imagining or believing that I have more money does not make it so. I may be able to use my imagination to do something to “make money,” but my efforts are far from guaranteed.

    Clarifying Sex, Gender, and Sexuality

    With that in mind, we can return to the issue of sex and gender. Initially, social scientists sought to distinguish sex from gender. As my introductory anthropology textbook defines sex: “observable physical characteristics that distinguish the two kinds of human beings, females and males, needed for reproduction” (Lavenda and Schultz 2015:375). As is clear in this definition, sex is mostly experienced as dimorphic, although the textbook does talk about various ways “genetic or hormonal factors produce ambiguous external genitalia.” So there are some ways biologically in which we might talk about a male-female continuum, or even contemplate other-sex categorizations. It is useful to recognize that the human primate seems to be something of an outlier in comparison to the standard measures of sexual dimorphism in non-human primates, and there is still a lot of evolutionary explanation needed for why human primates are unlike other primates in this way (see Adam Van Arsdale’s The complexity of human sexual dimorphism for an interesting contemporary take; Greg Downey on The long, slow sexual revolution; and The Phallus Fallacy by Agustín Fuentes for more on the range of variation in genitalia and the cultural dimensions of phallus-focus).

    But understanding human sex difference would be frighteningly incomplete without considering gender, or “the cultural construction of beliefs and behaviors considered appropriate for each sex” (Lavenda and Schultz 2012:365). Social scientists introduced the term gender as a way of talking about all those expectations and beliefs we load onto people with certain physical characteristics. And we could do a tour through history and different cultures to find out how very different those expectations and beliefs can be, which is why we say they are “socially constructed.” However, that does not mean there is no biological variation, nor does it mean those beliefs and expectations don’t have very real effects, nor does it mean a particular individual can “generate their own truth” about gender. In fact, our beliefs and expectations can have quite dramatic biological effects, in terms of how boys and girls are differently fed and the spaces and activities they are assigned. And in some cases, most notably with eunuchs, there is the deliberate fashioning of a third-sex role (we are hardly the first or only society to engage in sex operations).

    Gender roles and identity have often come as a duality, but there are a number of societies where “supernumerary gender roles developed that apparently had nothing to do with morphological sex anomalies” (Lavenda and Schultz 2012:368). Many of these cases are from the peoples indigenous to the Americas, which very often had a third-gender (or even fourth-gender) roles for “Two-Spirit Peoples” (which the French denigrated as berdache). These people typically took on tasks appropriate to the other gender; they often but did not always “cross-dress,” and many had special ceremonial roles in their communities. While some have glossed this as “homosexual,” it really does not correspond to such designation, and many contemporary Native Americans have rejected this gloss. (For an elaboration on Two-Spirit peoples, see Two Spirits: A Map of Gender Diverse Cultures: “Hundreds of distinct societies around the globe have their own long-established traditions for third, fourth, fifth, or more genders.”)

    Update 2013: Debates around marriage equality have revived interest in the idea that dichotomous sex and reproduction is rooted in nature. See Nature’s Case for Same-Sex Marriage by David George Haskell: “The facts of biology plainly falsify the oft-repeated notion that homosexuality is unnatural. Every species has evolved its own sexual ecology, and so nature resists generalizations. . . . A wide, living rainbow arcs across the natural world. Diversity rules in sexuality, just as it does in the rest of biology.

    See also the articles in Marriage and Other Arrangements, the inaugural issue of Open Anthropology, a public journal of the American Anthropological Association. Also note Where a Gender Spectrum May Be Taking Us by Rosemary Joyce, who writes of how students have become incredibly attuned to these issues.
    Of course given this biological sex variation and gender role variation, the question of sexual identity and sexual practices gets really tricky. We have typically thought of heterosexuality as both normal practice and identity. More recently there has been an idea that both homosexuality and heterosexuality are normal variants, and surely there are biologists searching for that “gene for homosexuality.” Others have talked about homosexuality and heterosexuality as a continuum. However, none of that gets at the even crazier range of human variation. For example, sex with a “Two-Spirit Person” would be considered neither strictly homosexual or heterosexual. There are also societies in which male homosexual practices are considered vital in order for men to later engage in heterosexual intercourse. Other societies gauge homosexual or heterosexual activity not by the biological sex of the partners but by their role in the sex act–a man can be perfectly “heterosexual” and have sex with other men, depending on the type of sexual practice involved. Hopefully we’ll soon be finding the genes to explain all that stuff…

    Note: That last line was supposed to be a joke, based on the idea that it would be silly to search for genetic causation for that sexual diversity. However, I may have to be more circumspect, as the idea of faster genetic evolution combined with ethnicity–what I’m calling ethnobiogeny–may indeed result in such claims. See the end of Race Redux for more on ethnobiogeny.
    As useful as it has been to think about the social aspects of gender and sexual identity as related to but potentially quite different from biology, there has been some frustration with these approaches. First, gender was almost immediately used as a euphemism for sex. After the 20-week ultrasound, many people ask “what is the gender of the baby?” I was tempted to joke: “The sex is female, but we haven’t decided on gender yet” (note however that parents play an important but only auxiliary role in fashioning gender expectations). Second, people immediately misinterpreted the “social construction” argument in the ways described above, as a denial of biological variation or difference.

    Many analysts therefore wanted to push the point further, showing how our gendered social expectations actually become embodied, incorporated into our developing motor habits, musculature, and bodies, so that it was not just gender that was socially constructed, but sex too. In other words, the bodies we see as male and female are in part due to social environments. For example, many societies actively discourage females from participating in sports or other activities that would build muscle mass, as this would be unfeminine. While there are some who believe such differential expectations have lessened or disappeared in the industrialized world, I note the irony that technologies like the ultrasound now enable people to frontload gender expectations in ways that would have been impossible in the past–many people have their nurseries appropriately decorated and buy gender-coded baby clothes months before the baby is born!

    Gender is a Social Construction–and Beyond

    In the context of people who were already familiar with many of these assumptions, a philosopher colleague recommended a chapter from Georgia Warnke’s After Identity: Rethinking Race, Sex, and Gender. Warnke is precisely attempting to push some of these boundaries in order to critique assumptions that males are evolutionarily programmed to be bread-winning but promiscuous whereas females are similarly programmed to be at-home and choosy about mates. Warnke reviews much of the ethnographic and historical record I have referenced above–and is really drawing on a lot of anthropology–to conclude that these roles are hardly anchored in our genes or evolution, but are more a product of relatively recent gender expectations. What we see as science is influenced by what we already believe to be true about males and females.

    When anthropology talks about human sex, gender, and sexuality, we insist that we must take account of what humans say, think, and believe about their activities. To do otherwise is arrogant, presumptuous, and a root cause for why people become suspicious of the people who call themselves scientists.

    To say this is not to deny evolution, to deny science, to deny that humans are animals, or to claim some sort of ethereal special place for the non-material. It is simply to ask that a role for human activity and imagination be included as part of our understandings. And of all the products of the human imagination, the idea that organisms are ruled or determined by genes is surely one of the most bizarre–but apparently also one of the most far-reaching and pernicious.

    My last sentence is borrowed from Tim Ingold’s The Perception of the Environment: Essays on Livelihood, Dwelling and Skill:

    And of all the historical products of the human imagination, perhaps the most decisive and far-reaching has been the idea that there exists such a thing as an “intelligence”, installed in the heads of each and every one of us, and that is ultimately responsible for our activities. (2000:419)

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    Still one wonders if they are tendencies that are ‘hard wired’ below the level of Culture.

    Of course there are.

    My point was that the hard-wired/culturally embedded distinction is murky because often things that are hard-wired, or even apparently hard-wired, get filtered through cultural lenses, both in how they are performed and how they are perceived.

    A simple example. All human beings smile.

    Americans tend to smile at strangers in service situations (like at a waiter in a restaurant) because it is a sign of general friendliness, setting the tone for a specific kind of exchange. The French, on the other hand, take smiling as a private expression between intimates. As a result, when americans smile at French waiters, they’re taken as idiots who don’t get how social exchanges really work. To the French, it would be as if we went up to the waiter and put our arm around him or her and rubbed his or her belly affectionately. Very inappropriate. Meanwhile in the USA if an american doesn’t show some kind of personal greeting to a waiter, like smiling, they’re taken as unfriendly and even hostile.

    Yet we all see and recognize and interpret and “perform” smiles—that much is universal.

    My agenda on this btw is to be well-read on the topic and know a lot about the nature of the debate and the evidence that drives it. It’s the study itself that interests me…and none of this is new. There have been studies of gender by historians, sociologists, anthropologists, cultural theorists, philosophers, pyschologists, and so on, for decades now. The evidence is piled sky high and covers many fields of inquiry. Knowing as much as I can about all that in its own right is what interests me, personally.

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    Still one wonders if they are tendencies that are ‘hard wired’ below the level of Culture.

    Of course there are.

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    An NFC scout is not big on Jared Goff: ‘To me he’s another Jay Cutler’

    Jared Dubin

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25527291/an-nfc-scout-is-not-big-on-jared-goff-to-me-hes-another-jay-cutler

    California’s Jared Goff is considered one of the top quarterbacks available in the 2016 NFL Draft, if not No. 1. In his final season at Cal, Goff completed 64.5 percent of his passes at 8.9 yards per attempt with 43 touchdowns and 13 interceptions.

    Rob Rang and Dane Brugler wrote that “Goff displays passing anticipation downfield, a resilient approach and coordinated feet in the pocket, which are always in sync with his body rhythm and allow him to reset his vision and find the open read. He clearly has room for improvement in several areas, but Goff is the type of quarterback who understands his deficiencies and what he needs to do in order to improve. And that’s why scouts are optimistic for his future.”

    If that sounds like a fairly typical scouting report for a top prospect, that’s probably because it is. But not everyone is high on Goff. That’s unsurprising. There is pretty much never a prospect that has the unanimous support of scouts throughout the league. And so here we have an anonymous NFC scout telling NJ.com exactly how not high on Goff he really is.

    “I hope somebody takes him early, ahead of us,” the scout said. “That would be great, drop a good player to us. I’m just not crazy about him, not at all. He doesn’t win. Show me a quarterback who didn’t win in college, that did well up here? There aren’t many. To me he’s another Jay Cutler. And you can take that any way you want.”

    So, not exactly a ringing endorsement. (Why being a 10-year starter has become a pejorative, who knows, but that’s the world we’re living in, right?)

    It should be noted that Cutler ranks in the top third of all quarterbacks with 1,000-plus pass attempts in completion percentage, touchdown percentage and yards per attempt since he entered the league in 2006.

    His high turnover rate (43rd among 52 quarterbacks in interception rate), however, is the most-often cited crticism, and Goff did struggle a bit with picks in college as well. It’s probably not Goff’s fault and Goff’s fault alone that Cal was not very good the past few years — quarterbacks don’t play defense, after all — but it’s not surprising that scouts would hold that against him.

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    Rams prepare for LA reality – moving, traffic, facilities questions loom

    By Vincent Bonsignore, Los Angeles Daily News

    http://www.dailynews.com/sports/20160323/bonsignore-rams-prepare-for-la-reality-moving-traffic-facilities-questions-loom

    BOCA RATON >> The oddity and complexity of the Rams situation hits head coach Jeff Fisher at various times.

    Like the other day when he was giving some prospective players a tour of the Rams St. Louis area team facility, only to walk past a bunch of rooms that were either completely baron or lined up with boxes waiting to get hosted onto a moving truck and transported to Southern California.

    “You walk down the halls and there’s nothing left on the walls and boxes are packed and things are stacked in offices, coaches boards are down and there’s no video to watch,” Fisher said Wednesday at the NFL’s annual league meetings in Boca Raton, Florida. “So if they had any question as to whether we are moving or not, those were answered.”

    Which invariably created some awkward exchanges.

    “This used to be the locker room,” Fisher caught himself telling them, as if it even mattered.

    Or when he spotted a few current Rams players working out in at the now nearly empty facility.

    “And there are laundry bags, those mesh bags, just laying on the floor in the locker room,” Fisher recalled. “Only way they knew it was theirs is because it had their number and shoes next to it. There wasn’t even a table left to put it on.”

    These are the constant little reminders Fisher and the Rams deal with every day as they try to conduct normal business in a decidedly abnormal work environment.

    And how their soon-to-be former life in St. Louis keeps intersecting with their future existence in Los Angeles.

    Like trying to manage the frenzy of free agency when the general manager is in Los Angeles and most of the coaching staff is in St. Louis.

    “So instead of just walking down the hall and talking to someone in their office, you have to communicate more like our teenagers probably communicate,” said Rams general manager Les Snead said. “Snap chat, things like that.”

    How much this will play into the Rams first year in L.A., which officially begins next week when they set up shop in Oxnard for their offseason program, remains to be seen.

    For now, they are determined not to use relocation as a crutch. From putting together the roster, to draft scouting and analysis right up to the opening kickoff, the move to L.A. will create obstacles but not pitfalls.

    “You’re well aware there’s going to be bumps in the road, spilled milk,” Snead said. “It’s not going to be easy or the same.”

    But, well, deal with it.

    Or, as Snead pointed out: “They aren’t going to call the games off.”

    Nevertheless, the vitally important and structured routine every pro franchise seeks will be greatly compromised over the next 12 months.

    It won’t be same stuff, different day for the Rams in 2016.

    It’ll be: Buy in Irvine, rent in Thousand Oaks? Or the other way around?

    Or: How do I get to the airport again?

    And as much as the Rams have eased their players into the new reality of life as the Los Angeles Rams, at some point it’ll be time to play football.

    At which the door on excuses will be slammed shut.

    “Our approach is that the rest of the league doesn’t care what we’re doing. There’s 31 other teams getting ready for the offseason program and training camp and the regular season,” Fisher said. “We’ve got to do the same thing. The sooner we get set up and ready to go, the better off we’ll be. I’m not looking at this as a distraction or an excuse.”

    All true, and all valid.

    But the constant state of flux is impossible to ignore, and will remain so for the foreseeable future.

    The Rams will be on the run through most of the offseason, beginning next week in Oxnard, were they will spend the next nine weeks conducting their conditioning program, organized team activity sessions and day-to-day operation. Then they’ll move to UC Irvine for training camp beginning in late July. Once that wraps up, it’s up to Thousand Oaks, where the Rams are closing in on a deal with Cal Lutheran University to develop open land for a temporary practice facility and headquarters.

    Seems simple enough, except if you are a newcomer to Southern California trying to figure out where to live in proximity to where you work. For a wealthy young professional athlete, the lure of Manhattan Beach or West L.A. is hard to ignore. But what good is that if you have to be in Thousand Oaks by 8 am. Every morning?

    Having grown up in Los Angeles, Fisher is a particularly helpful resource, He understands a 35-mile commute in L.A. is an entirely different animal that a 30-mile commute in St. Louis.

    “We’re constantly talking to them about, not necessarily the lifestyle change but about where you’re going to relocate,” Fisher said. “As we’ve told them, there’s traffic patterns and we’ve explained to them the distance, the travel distance from a lot of different areas.”

    Or in the Rams case, three different areas counting training camp.

    “They have a general idea where we’re going to set up our temporary. Now the temporary is one thing, and it’s important because it’s probably three years. So for the next three years, in September, we’re basically working out of the same facility. So you’re going to want to live somewhere in the vicinity of that temporary facility for three years. And our hope is that the permanent is also built in the same area so we don’t have to move twice. So with respect to the players, yeah, we spend a lot of time with them.

    “You can’t live in Orange County and train in Thousand Oaks. OK? you just can’t. Not with the hours we put in. We have to be on time. We have meeting start times that fluctuate during the regular season. Meeting end times that fluctuate so they need to be on time. We also had some former players come in and talk about it. Guys that were familiar with LA. So they have been given direction and they appreciate it.”

    For the Rams, it’s about trying to make the abnormal normal.

    The success of which might shape the 2016 season.

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