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  • in reply to: coaching candidates thread 2 #63257
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    I thought like zn. I started a new thread about the Rams head coach. I can change mine and someone can start another. Makes no difference to me.

    It’s done.

    We now adjurn to what is currently the youngest thread in board history

    in reply to: coaching candidates thread 2 #63253
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    Do me a favor. Make that it’s own thread.

    different thread.

    “Rams hire McVay.”

    You don’t bury that in a long thread about many candidates. It’s news!

    Well ag already started it.

    in reply to: coaching candidates thread 2 #63252
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    http://www.therams.com

    “This is an exciting day for the Los Angeles Rams as we welcome Sean McVay as our new head coach,” Rams Owner/Chairman E. STANLEY KROENKE said. “The accomplishments and success that he has rendered in less than a decade in our league are remarkable. I am confident in his vision to make this team a consistent winner and to ultimately bring a Super Bowl title home to Los Angeles.”

    McVay, who enters his ninth NFL season in 2017, joins the Rams following three seasons as offensive coordinator for the Washington Redskins. He was originally promoted to Washington’s coordinator position after serving as the club’s tight ends coach for three seasons (2011-13) and one as an offensive assistant (2010).

    “I am incredibly honored by this opportunity and I want to start by thanking Mr. Kroenke and Kevin Demoff for their faith in me to lead the Los Angeles Rams as head coach,” McVay said. “Collectively, we are committed to building a championship caliber team, and I’m excited to start that process and make our fans proud.”

    Last season his offensive unit finished second in the NFL in passing yards per game (297.4), passing yards per play (7.84) and yards per play (6.4). Under McVay’s leadership, the 2016 Redskins became the first team in franchise history to average more than 400 yards per game in a single season and their 6,454 total net yards also set a team record, which was previously established in 1989. The Redskins concluded 2016 as the NFL’s third-ranked offense and with three Pro Bowlers on offense (TE Jordan Reed, G Brandon Scherff, T Trent Williams).

    McVay’s group posted a breakout campaign in his second year as offensive coordinator in 2015, including record-setting performances by quarterback Kirk Cousins and tight end Jordan Reed. McVay’s scheme and tutelage helped Cousins break Redskins records for attempts (543), completions (379), passing yards (4,166) and 300-yard passing games (seven) in a single season. Reed has been a direct beneficiary of McVay’s work, spending 2013 as a member of his unit during McVay’s time as tight ends coach and being a focal point of the offense in 2015, as Reed recorded 87 receptions for 952 yards (both team records for a tight end) with 11 receiving touchdowns (one shy of the team record) in 2015.

    Collectively, McVay’s 2015 offense recorded top-10 rankings in third down percentage (43.5, fifth in the NFL), red zone scoring percentage (61.2, eighth), yards per play (5.6, 10th) and points per game (24.3, 10th). The Redskins also led the NFL with a team-record 69.5 completion percentage in 2015, leading the league in the category for the 11th time in team history and the first time since 1970.

    In his first season as Washington’s playcaller in 2014, he helped spawn a top-10 league ranking in yards per play (5.7) despite starting three different quarterbacks. His work with the three passers was instrumental in setting a team record for completion percentage (66.5 percent, later broken in 2015), and helping facilitate the explosive debut of wide receiver DeSean Jackson. Jackson averaged a league-best 20.9 yards per reception and became only the fourth player in team history to lead the NFL in that category.

    In 2013, McVay played a crucial role in Reed’s development, as the then-rookie compiled 45 receptions for 499 yards – both Redskins’ single-season rookie tight end records – despite Reed playing in only nine games. Under McVay’s tutelage, Reed joined Chris Cooley (2004) as the only Redskins tight ends named to the PFWA All-Rookie Team. In addition, McVay helped tight end Logan Paulsen from an undrafted free agent into a 30-game starter from 2010-13, with Paulsen increasing his reception totals each season.

    During Washington’s NFC East championship season in 2012, McVay’s unit produced despite losing starting tight end Fred Davis to a torn Achilles tendon in Week 7. Davis had led the team in both receptions (24) and receiving yards (325) through seven games before being placed on the Reserve/Injured list. McVay guided a unit that provided reliable receiving options on top of contributing significantly as blockers to the Redskins’ league-leading 2,709 rushing yards.

    In 2011, McVay played an integral role in Davis’ emergence, as the then fourth-year tight end surpassed his previous career highs despite playing in only 12 games. Davis caught 59 passes for 796 yards, the second-highest total on the team in both categories. Before missing the final four games of the season, Davis was on pace to set a franchise record in receiving yards by a tight end and to post the first 1,000-yard receiving season by a tight end in Redskins history.

    McVay joined the Redskins prior to the 2010 season after an undefeated regular season with the Florida Tuskers of the United Football League (UFL). The Tuskers finished a perfect 6-0 before losing in the UFL’s inaugural championship game.

    McVay originally entered the National Football League as an offensive assistant with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in 2008.

    McVay graduated from Miami University (Ohio) where he played wide receiver from 2004-07, earning Miami’s Scholar-Athlete Award in 2007. He is the grandson of John McVay, who oversaw five Super Bowl championship squads for the San Francisco 49ers and was inducted into the 49ers Hall of Fame in 2013.

    different thread.

    “Rams hire McVay.”

    You don’t bury that in a long thread about many candidates. It’s news!

    in reply to: coaching candidates thread 2 #63250
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    Off the net from Philly5

    Just announced

    We got the hottest guy on the market

    Do me a favor. Make that it’s own thread. Ie start again, new post new thread.

    in reply to: Glenn Greenwald on the CIA war against Trump #63232
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    What unverified claims? Trump himself agrees there was hacking.

    And it’s not the CIA. It’s every intel agency.

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    Here’s Why Russian Intelligence Bombshell on Donald Trump Might Be Believable

    http://fortune.com/2017/01/11/donald-trump-intelligence-russian/

    The disputed intelligence dossier compiled for the Democratic Party against Donald Trump is obviously unverifiable. Intelligence work is supposed to work that way. Nobody gives receipts for most salacious of the alleged conduct, and nobody says “of course you can quote me on that.” Everything is deniable. And by the time the claims come out, any halfway competent intelligence organization will have ensured that all those who could corroborate it are well out of harm’s way, in this world or the next.
    Nor is such cynicism a Russian monopoly, it should go without saying. But for all that the dossier says about Trump and members of his campaign team that is untrue, unverifiable, or illogical, it says plenty about Russia under Vladimir Putin that has the ring of truth.
    Few would dispute, in retrospect, that Trump had succeeded in making Europe’s inadequate contributions to NATO more of a campaign issue than Russia’s invasion of Crimea. Few will be surprised by allegations of Putin’s obsession with expat Russians in the U.S., always first in line as suspects for sponsoring revolution at home.

    Whether such details are just enough to give it a veneer of credibility is another question, because there are also plenty of bits in the dossier that are illogical, or at least contradictory. But then that might equally reflect actual contradictions in the corridors of power in Moscow. It’s impossible to know.
    The dossier paints a picture of a “Trump support operation” that was conceived and encouraged by the intelligence services from which Putin himself emerged, against the advice of professional diplomats, past and present. That seems plausible enough, given the respective nature of spies and diplomats, and the respective measure of trust he has shown in both since 2000.
    So, the dossier claims, when allegations of Russian involvement in the hacking of Hillary Clinton’s staff’s e-mails exploded, Putin looked for a scapegoat, and found one in his chief of staff, Sergey Ivanov. Ivanov, a long-serving aide who was in any case nearer the end than the start of his career, was indeed sacked in August without any detailed explanation, from Russian media. He was replaced with Anton Vaino, partly because he was not involved in the operation, according to the dossier.
    The claim that Putin considered making Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov another scapegoat seems more far-fetched, however. Not only is Lavrov an operator with few equals in world diplomacy, this was all happening when Russia’s military involvement in Syria was intensifying. It seems highly unlikely that Putin would have dropped his chief advisor at the most sensitive time for Russian foreign policy since the collapse of the Soviet Union.
    The dossier also claims (on the basis of three separate sources) that Carter Page, a sometime Trump adviser with extensive past ties to gas giant Gazprom, met in July with Igor Sechin, the U.S.-sanctioned CEO of oil giant Rosneft. (Page insists that such claims are “complete garbage.”)
    The notion that Sechin, by most people’s reckoning the most powerful man in Russia after Putin, had sought the lifting of U.S. sanctions in return for a renewed energy partnership, is entirely logical. Sanctions have severely crimped Rosneft’s investment (notably in its joint venture drilling for oil in the Arctic with ExxonMobil), and lifting them would benefit no-one more than Rosneft.
    Less credible is the claim that Sechin offered the U.S. a sizeable stake in Rosneft in return. True, there was a stake in Rosneft for sale last year. But the state budget was due to receive the money from it by December, and there was never any chance of selling to a U.S. entity in that timeframe. It eventually went to a consortium of Qatar and Glencore, with financing by Italy’s Banca Intesa SanPaolo.
    Page, like Trump’s campaign manager Paul Manafort, were withdrawn from Trump’s team after the spotlight on their Russian connections grew too intense, though even the dossier acknowledges there were other factors at work there, too. But one claim regarding Manafort stands out: That Putin refused to believe the reassurances of Viktor Yanukovych, the disgraced ex-president of Ukraine, that there was no paper trail confirming illicit payments made to Manafort that would discredit him in the U.S. Whatever the truth, and Manafort denies any wrongdoing, Putin’s exasperation at Yanukovych’s shortcomings is a matter of record.
    Finally, some parts of the dossier’s characterization of relations between Putin and Alfa Group is likely on the mark, or close to it. Alfa Bank, it will be remembered, was rather fancifully linked with Trump by Democrat-leaning publications last year. The dossier paints a picture of a long-standing symbiotic relationship between Alfa Group and the Russian leader. More recently, the dossier claims, Alfa owners Mikhail Fridman and Pyotr Aven have provided Putin with valuable information through their own network of business contacts in the U.S., valued particularly because of the conflicting signals Putin was getting from his diplomats and spies regarding the success of the alleged operation.
    Alfa, like the Kremlin on Wednesday, dismissed the dossier’s contents.”The allegations in the dossier with regard to Fridman, Aven and Alfa are fake news,” a source close to the group said.

    in reply to: Quinn trying to rebound #63213
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    Shoulder, concussion, seizures — all things he can recover from.

    It was the Back i was worried about — and it seems to have held up fine.

    So, I’m cautiously optimistic about Q.

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    True about the back, but still, that’s a long list of injuries across the last 2 years.

    Since Sims can’t pass rush as a 4/3 DE, IMO that makes DE a draft priority. Someone productive to rotate with Quinn or to replace him if he decides to make it 3 years worth of injuries.

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    Anthony Lynn

    ESPN reports he’s scheduled for a 2nd interview with the Rams this week.

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    A 30-year-old is in strong running for Rams’ head coaching job

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    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/a-30-year-old-is-in-strong-running-for-rams-head-coaching-job-005130521.html

    Washington Redskins offensive coordinator Sean McVay has emerged as a leading candidate in the Los Angeles Rams’ search for their next head coach, two sources told Yahoo Sports.

    The Rams have yet to meet with Atlanta Falcons assistant Kyle Shanahan and are beginning to pare down an expansive list of contenders, but the sources said McVay, who is 30, had an extremely impressive interview last week and moved ahead of some more experienced names on the docket.

    McVay would be the youngest coach in NFL history if he were to land the job, breaking a mark set by Lane Kiffin who was named head coach of the Oakland Raiders in January of 2007, four months shy of his 32nd birthday.

    But for McVay, landing the job would mean beating a deep pool of competitors. Thus far, the Rams have held court with a multitude of NFL assistants who are considered worthy of head coach consideration. Among them: the New England Patriots’ offensive and defensive coordinators – Josh McDaniels and Matt Patricia – Miami Dolphins defensive coordinator Vance Joseph, Arizona Cardinals offensive coordinator Harold Goodwin, Buffalo Bills offensive coordinator Anthony Lynn and Carolina Panthers defensive backs coach Steve Wilks. The Rams have also sought permission to interview Detroit Lions defensive coordinator Teryl Austin and Houston Texans linebackers coach Mike Vrabel and could continue to expand their list.

    The two sources added that coaches currently under contract with other NFL teams have not fallen off the list of consideration, but it has become increasingly unlikely that the Rams would part with draft picks in their pursuit. At least one name that appears to be definitively off the list: ESPN’s Jon Gruden. One source said Gruden spoke with the Rams, but that the former NFL coach was acting in an advisory capacity, offering an “organizational assessment.”

    With so many candidates still available, a serious pursuit of McVay by the Rams would likely raise some eyebrows around the NFL. A handful of executives who spoke to Yahoo Sports on Monday night said McVay has a reputation of being one of the bright young minds in the coaching community – but some also added that they believe he was a year or two away from being a serious head coaching candidate.

    The reticence appeared to be rooted in three areas. One was McVay’s age (he’ll turn 31 on Jan. 24). Another is his relatively short track record as an NFL coach (he became a full-fledged NFL assistant in 2010 and the Redskins’ coordinator in 2014). And arguably the most pressing: Whether McVay was ready to lead an entire franchise while also building an experienced coaching staff to support him in the effort.

    “That’s a big bite at [30 years old],” one executive said. “Recent coaches who have been that young, they clearly weren’t ready for it – situations that seemed to come down to experience issues and maturity issues [with the coaches]. I don’t know [McVay] well enough to say whether that would be a concern. It’s just a lot for anyone, even the most experienced coaches. … My first question to him might be, ‘Tell me who your staff will be.’ Mike Tomlin had a Dick LeBeau in Pittsburgh. Jon [Gruden] had been a head coach for a few years by the time he got to Tampa, but he was still pretty young for that roster. Having Monte Kiffin there was a big advantage for Jon. So that would be my first question for McVay, what kind of experience will be built into the staff.”

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    Anthony Lynn

    ESPN reports he’s scheduled for a 2nd interview with the Rams this week.

    in reply to: Quinn trying to rebound #63206
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    just thinking out loud. would being a standup edge rusher be easier on the back than a hands to the ground defensive end? i would think so.

    if they did go to a 3-4, it might be easier on quinn if he can handle the position.

    I was thinking the same thing too.

    On defense. IF they go to a 3/4 (which is all speculation right now) then they need LBs.

    If they stay with a 4/3, they need DEs, because Quinn has been injured for 2 years now, Sims is no pass rusher, and Hayes is the same banged up age Long is and people were saying Long was too old.

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    I am reading different things sorting out the details on this issue. It’s worth sorting through it all I think.

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    No it is back, but I won’t mess with anything anymore.

    We may be seeing different things?

    All I did was change a link from showing as a pic to showing as a blue line. And, for me, that hasn’t changed. That’s what I see there. I am not sure what you’re seeing but that’s what I am seeing.

    EDIT. AH WAIT.

    You’re talking about the authentication pop-up. I didn’t see that before.

    Okay you’re right and I fixed it back.

    I just misread BT’s post then yours but it’s fixed now.

    Sorry.

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    It is probably the way the software handles the link. I will try to fix it or just delete the stupid link.
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    I had to disable the link in 3 places. It is coming from the moyers site. You will need RM for more expertise.
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    Do a copy and paste of a valid link if you wish to visit the site or I can put it back the way it was.

    ? I thought I had fixed it.

    Yeah, I had edited BT’s post before you worked on it. I re-did that. It’s fine now.

    in reply to: speculation conversation…what if they switched to a 3/4 #63179
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    For Wade Phillips, Broncos’ 3-4 defense and one gap equals dominance

    link: http://www.denverpost.com/2016/02/07/for-wade-phillips-broncos-3-4-defense-and-one-gap-equals-dominance/

    Wade Phillips typically is the first to saunter out to the Broncos’ practice fields. Each morning, his small steps lead him out, his sleepy eyes gaze around with wonder, and his grin grows larger with every bystander he greets. His soft voice and round frame add to the guise he’s worn so well in his 37 seasons as an NFL coach.

    Don’t be fooled.

    Phillips, the man DeMarcus Ware calls a father figure, is the mastermind behind a relentless attack, a defense built on speed and pressure that he hopes to turn into one of the most fearsome units in the league.

    When general manager John Elway decided to overhaul the Broncos’ coaching staff in January, his reasoning was simple. Yes, the Broncos had just clinched their fourth consecutive AFC West title under John Fox. But a lackluster performance in a divisional playoff loss to the Indianapolis Colts in Denver exposed the Broncos’ weaknesses.

    They didn’t go out “kicking and screaming,” as Elway said.

    So, when new Broncos coach Gary Kubiak hired Phillips as his defensive coordinator, it was clear that Elway’s message was heard.

    In his nearly four decades in the NFL, Phillips has been a part of 19 top-10 defensive units and has coached 27 Pro Bowlers. He mostly recently was the defensive coordinator on Kubiak’s staff in Houston, where he took over a Texans unit that ranked 30th in the league in total defense (376.9 yards allowed per game) and steered it to a No. 2 ranking (285.7 yards) in 2011.

    Before that, as the Dallas Cowboys’ head coach from 2007-10, Phillips helped Ware accumulate 60½ sacks as an edge pass rusher and twice lead the league in sacks.

    Back for a second run as Broncos’ coordinator, Phillips has implemented his version of the 3-4 defense that simplifies the duties and exploits the depth and weapons on his roster. It’s a system that is adaptable, and one that his players have embraced.

    “We try to fit what the players can do in the defense rather than saying, ‘OK, we’re a 4-3 or we’re a two-gap 3-4,’ ” Phillips said. “We’re a team where if a guy can stunt and rush the passer, we let him do that. If a guy is a power guy, we try to let him be that. It’s all what individual players can do.”

    It begins with the line, where in the base defense three linemen play a one-gap scheme, unlike the two-gap scheme in many other 3-4 alignments. This means the nose tackle and two defensive ends are responsible for the offensive lineman in front of them and one gap — not both — to the side of that lineman, allowing them to move up the field and attack the passer instead of waiting for the play to unfold and reacting.

    This defense puts a greater onus on the two inside linebackers to step up and take on a guard, and also stuff the run and fall back in coverage when needed. Phillips has said his inside linebacker corps this year is among the deepest he has had, but the return to full health of starters Brandon Marshall and Danny Trevathan from injuries a season ago is crucial.

    “Danny and I, we’re naturals together,” Marshall said. “Whenever we’re at practice, we’re able to feed off each other. He knows the checks, I know the checks.”

    The variations, of which Phillips has plenty and is known to utilize depending on his personnel, are seen most with the outside linebackers. This year he has two elite ones (Von Miller and Ware) and possibly a third (rookie Shane Ray).

    Phillips has been toying with three-outside linebacker sets. He has been moving Ware and Miller up to the line occasionally. And he’s letting them do what they do best.

    “We rush them a lot,” Phillips said, grinning slyly. “If they can rush the passer, we let them rush.”

    Allow Ware to expound. “In the 3-4, you have five linemen on the front end and only two linebackers,” he said. “It’s a one-gap scheme. My job is now I can be a lot more aggressive on the outside, set the edge on the outside and make sure everything is funneled to the guys in the middle. It’s like (having) one responsibility.”

    The aggressiveness extends to the secondary, where Phillips has three Pro Bowlers in safety T.J. Ward and cornerbacks Aqib Talib and Chris Harris. The trio didn’t make the NFL’s top 100 for 2015, a ranking selected by their peers. But the added chip was welcome.

    Talib believes the Broncos’ secondary a year ago was among the best in the NFL. Ward, now in a defense that allows him to blitz more, wants their status, and his, to be indisputable in 2015.

    “I want to lead the league in interceptions,” he said. “I want to lead the league in sacks from the secondary and lead the league in turnovers. If we do that, we’ll be pretty good.”

    The benchmark is Seattle’s “Legion of Boom” secondary, a group that helped the Seahawks to consecutive Super Bowl appearances and one world championship.

    Under defensive coordinator Jack Del Rio’s tutelage last season, the Broncos allowed 305.2 yards per game, the third-fewest in the NFL, and only 79.8 yards rushing, second-fewest in the NFL. But they ranked ninth in yards passing allowed (225.4), tied for 16th in scoring (22.1 points) and recorded only 25 takeaways, tied for a mediocre 13th.

    The one-gap philosophy raises the risk, but also the reward. A breakdown in communication can leave a running back a clear path down the field. But a talented, in-sync defense can create havoc.

    “We always thought we could be good, but we know we can be good now,” Miller said. “I don’t know how Coach Phillips did it, but we’re ready to go.”

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    Re: McVay – Wade Phillips connection. The Tight Ends coach for the Redskins is Wes Phillips. He is the son of Wade Phillips. Don’t know if that’s the connection, but if McVay gets the job and Phillips is his DC, I bet you Wes is named the Tight Ends coach. Also, Bill Callahan (Washington’s Offensive line coach and former coordinator with Dallas among other places) would probably be in the running for OC. Should be interesting. This could mean nothing if Shanahan has a good interview.

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    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000498479/printable/wade-phillips-vic-fangio-among-top-10-defensive-coordinators

    Wade Phillips, Denver Broncos

    ….Phillips has built stellar defenses at nearly every stop, including his most recent in Houston. He is a creative 3-4 schemer adept at tailoring his system to his talent, allowing his premier playmakers to disrupt the game at every turn. While unleashing explosive rushers off the edge and moving around destructive interior defenders, Phillips will utilize stunts, loops and blitzes to terrorize opponents at the point of attack. His tactics are certainly impressive to watch, but the fact that he scales down the communication (verbiage) to allow his players to play fast and free is one of the big reasons why he consistently gets exceptional production from his top dogs. And given the impact that stars have on the game, Phillips’ adaptability is what makes him one of the top defensive minds working today.

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    I must admit, I don’t know jack about 3-4. So I guess we’re saying Quinn and Barron as the other two linebackers? Outside linebackers? I don’t really get it.

    I don’t see Barron being an LB anywhere, inside or out, in a 3/4. He’s too small.

    He’s also not a DB or they wouldn’t have moved him to LB.

    In a 4/3 your primary pass rushers are your 2 ends.

    IN a 3/4 you move the ends more inside (over the OTs usually) and put a noseguard over the center. As a rule you can’t generate much pass rush from a 3/4 DL.

    Your pass rushers become the 2 OLBs. However, in many 3/4 systems, you can take a DE and move him back to OLB. Peppers did that when he signed with GB.

    You then have 2 ILB who are, as a rule, bigger than the normal 4/3 MLB.

    So you go from this:

    OLB..MLB..OLB
    DE DT DT DE

    To this

    OLB ILB ILB OLB
    ..DE..NG..DE..

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    As other teams land coaches, Rams’ top choices remain available

    By RICH HAMMOND / STAFF WRITER

    http://www.ocregister.com/articles/rams-740842-mcvay-coordinator.html

    The dominos have started to topple, as NFL teams fill their openings for head coaches, and thus far things have fallen quite nicely for the Rams.

    The Rams have yet to make a hire, although on Tuesday they were expected to interview Washington offensive coordinator Sean McVay again, this time in Southern California. Moreover, the candidates presumed to be most attractive to the Rams all remain available.

    Jacksonville retained interim coach Doug Marrone on a permanent basis this week and, on Tuesday, Denver announced the hiring of Miami defensive coordinator Vance Joseph. According to one published report, Buffalo is leaning toward Carolina defensive coordinator Sean McDermott.

    Those moves would leave three NFL openings – the Rams, San Diego and San Francisco – and plenty of desirable, offensive-minded candidates.

    McVay and three other talented offensive coordinators – Atlanta’s Kyle Shanahan, New England’s Josh McDaniels and Buffalo’s Anthony Lynn – remain available, but the pertinent question for the Rams is, how long can they afford to wait?

    The Rams missed their interview with Shanahan last weekend because of weather-related travel problems and tentatively have re-scheduled an interview for Sunday, the day after the Falcons’ playoff game against Seattle.

    Clearly the Rams remain high on McVay, but he is also believed to be a strong candidate for the 49ers’ opening. The Rams would like to talk to Shanahan, but by waiting for him, they might run the risk of losing McVay to another team.

    McVay, not particularly considered a top-tier candidate last month, has vaulted up amid published reports that he is impressing team executives during the interview process.

    McVay, who turns 31 on Jan. 24, would become the youngest head coach in NFL history. Lane Kiffin was 31 years, 8 months, when Oakland hired him in 2007.

    A former high school quarterback, McVay has a good lineage. He’s the grandson of John McVay, a top San Francisco 49ers executive during their successful run in the 1980s, and McVay’s mentors include former NFL coach Jon Gruden, who is well-regarded by the Rams.

    McVay could be intriguing to the Rams for another reason. ESPN reported Tuesday that, should McVay be hired as a head coach, Wade Phillips would be his top choice as defensive coordinator. Phillips, 69, has been an NFL coordinator (and head coach) since 1981.

    The Rams have interviewed Buffalo offensive coordinator Anthony Lynn and New England coordinators Josh McDaniels and Matt Patricia, all of whom are considered strong candidates. The Rams are considered likely to conduct second interviews with multiple candidates.

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    Sigh. I getz all adamant about this stuff.

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    FYI on #Rams search: Estimate is three or four candidates will get second interviews.

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    Vance Joseph named Denver Broncos head coach
    Joseph interviewed and dined with a Broncos contingent Tuesday

    link: http://www.denverpost.com/2017/01/11/vance-joseph-denver-broncos-head-coach-job/

    John Elway was hopeful he could get one of those “bright young guys” as the Broncos’ next head coach — one who could revamp the offense, improve an already elite defense and be the leader the team needed to get back to the playoffs.

    The hints were dropped, the checklist made and, on Wednesday, the deal reached: Vance Joseph will be the Broncos’ next head coach, taking over for Gary Kubiak.

    When Kubiak resigned last week, Joseph’s name immediately surfaced as a leading candidate.

    On Tuesday, he met with Elway, president/CEO Joe Ellis, director of player personnel Matt Russell, director of team administration Mark Thewes and vice president of public relations Patrick Smyth for nearly four hours at the team’s Englewood headquarters, interviewing for a job he was in the running for two years ago. That evening, he dined with the Broncos’ contingent at Elway’s steakhouse to continue the day’s conversation.

    “We enjoyed visiting with Vance Joseph at our facility today,” Elway tweeted Tuesday afternoon. “He has great leadership qualities and a strong vision of what it takes to win.”

    No offer was agreed upon by the night’s end, though, and Joseph had been scheduled to leave for San Diego early Wednesday to interview for the Chargers’ head-coaching vacancy.

    Instead, he stayed in town and returned to the team’s headquarters to finalize the deal.

    Joseph, 44, most recently was the defensive coordinator for the Miami Dolphins. He was the last of three candidates to interview with the Broncos, following Chiefs special-teams coordinator Dave Toub, who interviewed last Friday in Kansas City, and Atlanta offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan, who interviewed in Atlanta on Saturday.

    Joseph, a Colorado alumnus who spent two years in the NFL as a cornerback, arrives with 11 seasons of coaching experience in the league. He began his tenure in San Francisco, where he spent six years as a DBs coach for the 49ers (2005-10). Then he went to Houston, when he stood on the sideline for three years as the Texans’ secondary coach (2011-13) under then-head coach Kubiak and defensive coordinator Wade Phillips. After two more years as the secondary coach in Cincinnati (2014-15), Joseph landed his first job as a defensive coordinator a year ago, as part of Adam Gase’s new staff in Miami.

    But his resume is deceiving. Joseph’s earlier years were spent on the other side of the ball, as a backup quarterback and running back at CU, where signs of his coaching potential were laid bare.

    “It just seemed like it was supposed to work out the way it did because he was always the guy coaching,” recalled former CU teammate and receiver Michael Westbrook. “He played behind Kordell (Stewart), but V.J. was always, always the smarter one. Even when Koy (Detmer) was there — and I’m not calling Kordell dumb at all — we all know that Koy comes from a football family and V.J. was basically Koy’s coach, too.

    “He was just a smart guy. He just knew the game and he’s always known the game. For him to end up being a head coach, it just seems like that was supposed to happen. Not to be the football player, but be the coach. Because he’s the guy that sees everything and he was the guy who was always very smart about offenses and defenses.”

    Added fellow CU teammate and former NFL linebacker Chad Brown: “Not only was he serious about his job, but he was also serious about being a leader. Even if it was just on scout team.”

    The Broncos were serious about him, too.

    While Joseph’s NFL coordinator experience is limited and his head-coaching experience non-existent, the Broncos were impressed with his leadership and the way he held together a depleted group in Miami to help the Dolphins back to the playoffs for the first time since 2008.

    Miami was trounced last Sunday in a 30-12 wild-card loss at Pittsburgh, closing the door on its season but opening another to Joseph’s availability to the Broncos.

    While Miami’s defense lagged during the regular season — 29th in yards allowed, 18th in points — and was picked apart by the Steelers, the emphasis from the Broncos’ perspective has been on Joseph’s head-coaching potential.

    His hiring could provide a more seamless transition for Denver’s defense, a group Elway has rebuilt over the last six years to make into one of the league’s finest. In searching for the next head coach, Elway made it clear that revamping the offense was as much a priority as maintaining, even improving, the defense.

    One of Joseph’s first big decisions will be naming his defensive coordinator. Promoting defensive backs coach Joe Woods is a possibility. As is renewing Phillips’ contract.

    “Obviously we would like to keep as much continuity as we can, too,” Elway said last week. “If we can keep as much of them together, we’ll try to do that.”

    There is a less obvious transition on offense. Joseph and his new offensive staff are expected to oversee another quarterback competition this off-season between Trevor Siemian and Paxton Lynch. He will be tasked with finding improvement in a group that was depleted by injuries and hindered by a porous offensive line.

    Although the final picture is yet to be formed, the biggest puzzle piece for the Broncos is filled.

    “The offense will come,” Elway said last week. “… Defense has become our identity. I think offensively we have to take that on as a challenge and find guys who want to compete. We have to get better offensively and we have to compete better offensively to say. ‘You know what, we carry half of this load.’ You can’t rely on that defense. We’re going to be good on defense, but as an offense we have to take it as a challenge.”

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    So what we’re really left with, is this simmering hatred and disgust for groups of people who are in even worse straits than the poorest Trumpies, and instead of looking up at the people REALLY screwing them over, they think it’s the fault of Mexicans, the Chinese, black and brown people already living here, etc. etc.

    Yeah see here’s the issue.

    First off the term “identity politics” is a spin off from cultural theory and the idea of “cultural identity.” That term, CI, covered race, ethnicity, nationality, AND class. Class identity is also an identity. Except, once you enter race into it, it’s more divided. Anyway, class is NOT excluded from the cultural theory concept. It is not distinguished from race as a thing to be made separate. Largely because in the real world, it CAN’T be separated.

    Granting identity is never a thing but a struggle OVER a thing. What does it mean to be a muslim immigrant in the USA. That question will have different answers.

    So you can ask what does it mean to be white working class in the USA. That will never boil down to one answer. It’s in itself contested territory.

    AND near as we can tell about Trump voters, their traditional american populist resistance to “outsiders” (ie anyone not them) will take right-wing turns as often as not.

    So seeing oneself as an EMBATTLED working-class white american can, frequently, lead not to big revelations about the socio-economic system…drawing on that right-wing populist tradition, it is much more fueled by racial and cultural resentments.

    Which, of course, is a huge part of the reality with Trump.

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    I’m concerned with what coaches he could bring along with him.

    I personally don’t have any problem with that.

    I would assume he would do just fine.

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    Shanahans. Please let it happen.

    No Daddy Shanahan.

    There’s no point in it and IMO it would be more harm than good.

    Kyle I am fine with. Though I have no personal favorite. Kyle is just one of the guys I am fine with.

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    You think class and id-pol can both be talked about, and i think class needs more emphasis. Blah blah blah.

    As far as I am concerned, the “identity politics” phrase is empty. It doesn’t mean anything. It’s a catch phrase from those who reject certain (what are to me clear and obvious) truths.

    Namely this.

    You cannot separate class and race in discussing the USA and its politics. Not even by any “percentage.” Not even for “emphasis.” In the USA those 2 things cannot be separated. By any degree.

    To me, any effort to do so just distorts everything.

    Selecting one side of that and calling it “identity politics” does nothing for the discussion.

    And in fact the majority of Trump voters are decently well off.

    And, white.

    So the demographics do not support the “beleagured working class support Trump” idea. Especially since in the USA there IS such a thing as “white working class,” a lot of whom are pro-Trump (in fact that’s his real majority. You leave race out of it and the way I see it, you’re just chasing windmills).

    I never use the term “identity politics.” To me it is automatically dismissive.

    I say “race.”

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    https://www.facebook.com/RBReich/posts/1434615213217737

    Robert Reich

    This morning a friend told me he’s stopped reading or watching the news. I asked him why.
    “Because it just gets me upset,” he says.
    “So you don’t know what’s been happening with Trump?”
    “No. I have enough on my hands.”
    “You’re not interested in claims that Trump and his people might have colluded with Putin’s henchmen in trying to throw the election for Trump?”
    “Why should I be interested? What’s anyone going to do about it? He’ll be president in a few days.”
    “If it’s true, he won’t get away with it,” I say.
    “Of course he will. He gets away with everything. He doesn’t disclose his taxes. He gets away with it. He doesn’t divest his financial interests. He gets away with it. He breaks the nepotism law by putting his son-in-law and business partner into the White House. He gets away with it. He gets away with nominating the CEO of ExonMobil for Secretary of State – a man who’s buddies with Putin, who came up through the ranks at Exxon by managing the company’s Russia account, who got the fu*king “Order of Friendship” from Putin. This morning Trump has the audacity to send out a tweet saying we’re Nazi Germany because the FBI is investigating his Russian connection.”
    “So you have been keeping up with the news,” I say, smiling.
    “And you remember Trump’s campaign manager Paul Manafort? He’s a key player here. He knows the Russian oligarchs around Putin, and made a bundle from them. He was a go-between. Also Michael Flynn, Trump’s foreign policy advisor, who’s been in cahoots with Russian propaganda. And Trump’s guy Michael Cohen, his lawyer from way back. Cohen was involved, too. Had a meeting in Prague with Russian operatives. Cohen …”
    I break in. “Hold on. You know more than I do.”
    “I guess I have been following it a bit,” he says, sheepishly.
    “That’s good. All of us have to stay informed.”
    “It just gets me upset. Nobody’s going to do anything about any of this. Trump will get away with it.”
    “I disagree. This will bring Trump down.”

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    TomPelissero
    Sources: Sean McVay had a second meeting with the #Rams. Interviewed for head coaching job last week. Things heating up in L.A. Recommended by both Jon and Jay Gruden.

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    I dont know if Trump will be worse than Hillary

    Supreme court, social security, planned parenthood, medicaire, roe v. wade, EPA, climate science, public education, immigration, taxes and income inequality, and so on.

    Of course Trump is worse.

    In my mind it’s not even debatable.

    And name any time in american history where the mainstream public as a whole was shocked into leftist resistance.

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    Albert Breer

    http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/01/10/nfl-doug-marrone-jaguars-coaching-carousel-blake-bortles-tom-coughlin

    Los Angeles: This is the most wide-open search, and my sense is that their focus on assistants is because they’d like to “discover” their own guy. That’s why 30-year-old Redskins offensive coordinator Sean McVay makes the most sense here. The fate of GM Les Snead—who’s been in the interview room along with COO Kevin Demoff and senior assistant Tony Pastoors—would be another piece that needs to fall into place.

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