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wvParticipantOuch.
Boy. You think about what the Rams got for the RGIII trade as opposed to one player from this draft. There are quite a few names on this list that there was strong sentiment for taking. And just imagine if the Rams had taken Blackmon or Richardson instead of making that trade. What a disaster.
Well, i had thought maybe they should draft RF3 and
trade Bradford for more picks.
I dunno how that woulda turned out
but at least we wouldnt be stuck with
an injury-prone QB.Yeah, i should be a GM.
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vwvParticipantBettis
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vwvParticipant<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>wv wrote:</div>
Relocation might be an issue
for some free agents, i suppose.IMO this is its own thread. Might spark interest. You okay with that? Up to you.
I really never care about the moving
of wv-posts.As long as they are not moved
to New Jersey.w
vwvParticipantwv wrote:
Relocation might be an issue
for some free agents, i suppose.
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LaramWe were doing some promos for the combine and I had an opportunity to speak with this player.
It’s an issue, at least for him.
Makes complete sense.
Less likely to matter to someone without kids.
Yeah, its totally dependent on each individual situation.
I mean, it might work the other way — a player might
not ordinarily sign with St.Louis but if he thinks
they are moving to LA, he might like that…etc, and so forth.w
vFebruary 14, 2015 at 4:59 pm in reply to: Fisher & Cignetti: transcript… 2/12…. + articles about the press conference #18464wvParticipant===================================
LaramFirst thing that I heard from Cig that I liked was his willingness to go off script and stay with something the defense cannot defend.
That’s something that use to frustrate me in the past. Stay with it until they stop it.
Secondly he told something about Shotty. He said the biggest difference between he and Shotty is that he wanted to be the OC (to coordinate everything) and would essentially let the OC take care of the qb.
Translation for ME: Shotty wanted to work very closely with the qb, and didn’t allow me to do my job.
I’m not sure how I feel about that. IMO the OC should work closely with the qb.
Cigs, sounds like he’s more of an operational guy.
That’s interesting to me.
February 14, 2015 at 4:55 pm in reply to: around the net this part of Fisher/Cigs interview is especially controversial #18463wvParticipantYeah. I dunno why those quotes would
bother anybody.w
vwvParticipantJ… Sounds like JT is letting some of his personal feelings about Kroenke mingle with his professional life.
Oh yeah. Thats been going on with a lot of the local St.Louis reporters
ever since the LA thing exploded.w
vFebruary 13, 2015 at 7:02 pm in reply to: Cignetti/Fisher press conference vid and tweets and stuff #18443wvParticipantDidn’t Harbaugh simiplify the 49ers Offense
when he came in? Yes? No?There’s pros and cons to it,
i guess.w
vFebruary 13, 2015 at 5:45 pm in reply to: What American Sniper did is much, much worse than rewrite history #18431wvParticipantA pretty good discussion.
Enh. I didn’t see anyone asking hard questions. It was a bit too fluffy for my taste.
And that tends to happen when Veterans are on the panel. Folks tend to tiptoe around the vets feelings, etc.I know you are a Vet, Pa, so we probably disagree on that. Just my opinion.
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vFebruary 13, 2015 at 5:29 pm in reply to: Cignetti/Fisher press conference vid and tweets and stuff #18430wvParticipantJT: “Another interesting thing: Rams plan to simplify offense reduce volume of playbook from Schottenheimer tenure.”
Interesting. I wonder if this is a “way of getting Tavon more involved”
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vFebruary 13, 2015 at 5:26 pm in reply to: Ask Dolphins, Titans why splurging on free agents is a losing strategy #18428wvParticipantDolphins record the last three years:
2012 7-9
2013 8-8
2014 8-8See, just ‘trying’ to hire
Fisher causes TFE:
“the fisher effect”w
vFebruary 13, 2015 at 5:17 pm in reply to: Ask Dolphins, Titans why splurging on free agents is a losing strategy #18425wvParticipantI get so tired of people–for example JT–looking at the FA class at QB and saying no one looks to move the needle. OK. But then Carson Palmer was not seen as a needle mover when AZ got him. But Ariens did pretty well moving the needle making good use of a solid, experienced QB even though his body is aging and vulnerable. To me, Carson Palmer disproves the over negative thrust of the article. You can do a lot with a solid, non-star vet filling a hole.
Well to me, Carson Palmer was a very good QB. Not a Manning, but he was known to be
a very good QB. The way i saw it, The only issue was health. I just dont
see a Carson Palmer in this year’s batch of free agent QBs. It really does
look like a terrible pool of veteran free agent QBs this year.The Draft though, is different. There are bound to be some good ones
in the college ranks. Gotta be. Is the personnel dept good enough to identify them?w
vwvParticipantzn wrote:
Lance Kendricks 27 1 38 71.1% 2.6%I will be really disappointed if we cut this guy.
I really don’t understand why he isn’t a fan favorite. Or trusted more by the coaches.
Well, i dunno. He’s kinda like Laurinaitis
in that he doesnt really make big splashy
plays that make you go “Wow.”w
vFebruary 13, 2015 at 9:19 am in reply to: Grayson, Hundley, Petty, Carden etc. … the qbs this year #18414wvParticipantRambill
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Jim Thomas @jthom1Food for thought? Jeff Garcia has worked w/East Carolina QB Shane Carden, whom Rams talked to at Senior Bowl.
More food for thought? Garcia has also worked w/free agent QB Mark Sanchez in the past.
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January 23, 2015 10:15 am • By Jim Thomas[www.stltoday.com]
“….Carden, who has spoken with the Rams at the Senior Bowl, grew up in Newport Beach, Calif., but moved to Houston when he was 12. A little undersized at a shade under 6 feet 2, Carden has had some good moments on the practice field in Mobile, particularly when throwing on the run on rollouts and bootlegs.
In that sense his style is reminiscent to Jeff Garcia, a feisty four-time Pro Bowler who had a long and productive NFL career. Not only has Carden heard of Garcia and heard the comparison, he has trained with Garcia in California.
“I actually worked out with him this past spring,” Carden said. “He looked at me and he was like ‘Man, you could be my brother.’
“When we were working out, he was doing the drills. He was leading them, and he was getting after it. He can still spin it, man.”
wvParticipantWe still got Oliver ; i think he’s
better than J.Stewart.wvParticipantNFC West.
4 of the top 7 hardest schedules last year.
I like tough schedules.
Rams just need to grow stronger.
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wvParticipantwhat “is” the “great attractor” exactly?
Laniakea Ram
February 11, 2015 at 11:59 am in reply to: Wagoner: Where Austin Davis, Shaun Hill fit for Rams #18323wvParticipantI would much rather go with Davis if they bring one back. Hill was ok but Davis has the more upside. Hill will be 36 and looked done by seasons end.
Well, both Davis and Hill were disappoints to me.
I was high on Davis and now i dont think he can play in the NFL.
I was high on Hill and now i think he’s a mess under pressure.So, i dont really care to see either one at this point.
I’d rather try out Josh Freeman or George Blanda
or John Havlicek or Cazzie Russell. Or George Plimpton.
Anybody. Somebody. Hekker, maybe.w
vwvParticipantI kinda doubt they stay at 10.
Priority needs: QB and OLinemen.
Secondary needs: LB, CB, Free Safety, maybe WR, maybe DT.Just doesnt seem like any of the OLinemen are
all that special to merit a Tenth pick. Seems
like they can get quality OLinemen lower in the
first round. Also, doesnt seem like any of the QBs
are ten-spotters. So why stay at 10?Just seems like a trade-up,
or trade-down, is more likely-than-not,
to me.Also, seems more-likely-than-not that they
dont pick many ‘raw’ project-type-players in this draft.
One would think Fisher has to feel like its time to be in “win now” mode.w
vwvParticipantThis has me thinking about Bradford. Let’s say he’s like that Carolina LB, Davis, who could play after 3 ACLs.
One of the darker motifs running through the last 25 “back-up qb” Rams games is the bad, game-losing goal-line performances. Clemens v. Seattle, Hill v. SD.
Bradford was good inside the 10. It was a strength. And that was without the New Improved Quick, without Bailey yet, and without Britt.
The 23 games he played in 2012/13, he had 23 TDs on 49 attempts inside 10. That’s 47% (rounded up 0.1%)
To give some perspective on that, last year, if you look at guys with 20 or more attempts, the NFL leaders in percentage of TDs inside the 10 were
Carr (62.5%)
Romo (54.5%)
Ryan (48%)
Luck (47.6%)
Brees (47%)
Brady (46.2%)
Newton (43%)
Eli Manning (40.8%)
Rivers (37.5%)
Rodgers (36%)
Peyton Manning (34.7%)
Cutler (34.3%)
Tannenhill (34.1%)
Smith (33.3%)
Stafford (32.4%)
Flacco (31.3%)
Wilson (28.6%)
Roethlisberger (27.1%)And in Bradford’s case, that was basically without a running threat inside the 10 half the time….or to be more precise, with a very weak running threat inside the 10 in 2013. Jackson himself in 2012 had 4 TDs on 15 attempts, which is actually a decent 26.7%. Combined with Richardson, though,it’s 4 TDs on 19 attempts, which is 21%. Just to give a point of comparison, Marshawn Lynch alone last year had 11 TDs on 29 attempts inside the 10, for 38%. BUT if you look at Richardson and Stacy in 2013, just for the games SB played, Richardson and Stacy combined had 0 TDs on appx 10 attempts. (You can do the play by plays for Stacy with Bradford because it was just 3 games. Stacy had 0 TDs on 7 attempts inside the 10. Richardson had 4 attempts all year and I think only 1 after Stacy took over. Doesn’t matter because 0 of anything is 0%).
What would you say Bradford’s biggest weakness is as a QB,
not counting his injury-proneness ?w
vFebruary 10, 2015 at 6:31 pm in reply to: Ed Sabol NFL Films founder RIP …..NFL Films meant so much to me as a kid….. #18299wvParticipantTen to Fifteen channels?!
Man, you had it made.
We got 3 channels, with the rooftop antenna.Wv, I think I had you beat. Most days, we got 5 channels, some days 6, but the 6th channel wasn’t worth watching.
Yeah, well…ya know, itz West, by god, Virginia.
A lot of the time, i can remember having to turn
the tv channel selector with pliers.You should try listening to wv-radio sometime — its
all Elvis and Jesus, 24 hours a day. One
or the other.w
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February 10, 2015 at 6:22 pm in reply to: Dirt is turning in Inglewood; Stadium up next? … and other relocation stuff #18298wvParticipant<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Dak wrote:</div>
Yeah. I can’t get too upset with the local effort right now. There’s movement on the stadium construction front. It looks doable in STL.I wonder, if at the end of this, we don’t have the St. Louis Chargers or Raiders. I really think it could be either team that could decide they want a sure-thing new stadium for a few hundred million dollars, rather than continue to dick around in those cities.
I guess the Rams could stay here, and the Chargers or Raiders could move to Kroenke’s stadium. I just don’t see that happening, though. I am inclined to believe that SK wants to move HIS team to HIS stadium, and help build that entire Inglewood development. And, I just don’t see an owner swap, where SK owns the L.A. Chargers or Raiders. I guess it’s possible, since SK would control the lease on the stadium. It’s conceivable that it would be cheaper to build a new stadium than lease SK’s new stadium. And, the NFL likely would not want an owner of one NFL team leasing to another NFL team. Although, at the same time I write that, I remember that they’re sure ignoring the cross-ownership rule in place right now in order for SK to continue to own the Rams, so maybe those little details aren’t that important to NFL ownership.
It’s an interesting situation, for sure. And, it seems to evolve weekly.
I don’t see it (the Rams staying), either. If Kroenke is going to present the league with a crowning jewel, he’s going to want to wear the crown himself. I’m not 100% sure of the Rams moving to LA, but I am 100% sure of Kroenke moving to LA. Well, 99.9%, with a 0.1% chance of trading franchises with the Bowlen family.
I don’t think it would be a big issue for a team to lease a stadium from another owner. Most teams have a lease. So what does it matter? Any relocation and stadium lease gets passed by the Committee for Overseeing Opportunities to Make Fortunes in Los Angeles, or whatever it is. I can’t think of anything that would be an inherent conflict of interest in that kind of arrangement.
My intuition tells me that the Rams, and eventually the Raiders, end up back in LA, with St. Louis getting either the Chargers or the Jaguars.
It’s a strange world. I mean, if you look at the St. Louis stadium…that’s a nice looking stadium. Right on the River. It’s nice. It’s certainly better than what the Rams have right now, better than what the Chargers or Raiders have. That stadium is an upgrade for any of those teams.
It’s just that the LA project trumps it. It just does.
I dunno. Based on everything I’ve read, it sure seems like
Khan wants to stay in Jacksonville.
And for the life of me, i cant imagine San Diego
moving to St.Louis. That would really surprise me.What wouldnt surprise me is that if and when the NFL
expands again, St.Louis might get an expansion team.Just seems like a game of musical chairs where St.Louis
is left without a chair. I blame Bidwell.w
vFebruary 10, 2015 at 4:40 pm in reply to: Ed Sabol NFL Films founder RIP …..NFL Films meant so much to me as a kid….. #18292wvParticipantNFL Films meant so much to me as a kid….. long before cable, ESPN, NFL Network, DVRs and VCRs……..the rotary antenna TV on our rooftop and our old RCA Victor TV that maybe got 10-15 TV stations pending the weather was all we got……….. Thus my brothers and I looked forward to Saturday Afternoons to watch This Week In Pro – Football hosted by Brookshier and Summeral and of course The NFL Game of Week……… it was awesome, and it still is looking at those old shows….
Ten to Fifteen channels?!
Man, you had it made.
We got 3 channels, with the rooftop antenna.Sabol was great. The music was awesome.
To this day, it still plays in my
head at random times.w
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February 10, 2015 at 11:18 am in reply to: Insider Buzz: NFL Teams Want Sam Bradford, If Released, over Mariota & Winston #18269wvParticipantWell, they are not letting him go. They may not trust him
but they are not letting him walk.Seems to me, Bradford has all the cards. I keep
hearing he has to take a pay cut to stay,
but i dont see what leverage the Rams have.w
vwvParticipantGiant’s approach to fixing OLines
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http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/12304161/new-york-giants-sign-standout-offensive-lineman-brett-jones-calgary-stampedersOne of the New York Giants’ priorities this offseason will be to improve their offensive line, and they’re not opposed to using nontraditional means to do it.
According to sources, the Giants on Tuesday are planning to sign Brett Jones, a 6-foot-2, 318-pound center who was named the top offensive lineman in the Canadian Football League in 2014.
[+] EnlargeBrett Jones
Marianne Helm/Getty ImagesCalgary Stampeders center Brett Jones was the CFL’s top rookie in 2013.Jones is most likely a depth signing for the Giants, though it’s not out of the question that he could impress enough in the spring and summer to compete for a starting job along the interior of the offensive line.
The Giants’ ideal plan this offseason is to move 2014 second-round draft pick Weston Richburg from left guard to center and add either a guard to replace him or a big, physical tackle that would allow them to move Justin Pugh from right tackle to one of the guard spots. But the positional versatility of Richburg, Pugh and Geoff Schwartz, who should be recovered from his injuries in time for training camp, allows them to adjust that plan based on the strengths of their personnel.
The Giants were more or less pleased with their pass protection in 2014, but their line was a woeful run-blocking unit and needs to get more physical.
The 23-year-old Jones, who helped lead the Calgary Stampeders to the Grey Cup title in November, became something of a hot commodity once he made known his intentions to forego a potentially huge payday in CFL free agency (which opens Tuesday at noon ET) to try to make the jump to the NFL.
In addition to the Giants, Jones reportedly worked out for the Eagles, Steelers, Cardinals and Buccaneers.
Jones, who was the CFL’s Most Outstanding Rookie in 2013, has started one game at guard and the rest at center during his two-year career.
February 10, 2015 at 7:02 am in reply to: Mock Draft Roundup: Third Edition Posted 14 hours ago Myles Simmons #18264wvParticipantNo way they go defense with the first pick.
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vFebruary 10, 2015 at 6:58 am in reply to: Dirt is turning in Inglewood; Stadium up next? … and other relocation stuff #18263wvParticipant…The NFL does not have a strong history of successfully blocking teams from relocating. The only instance in the modern era of a team moving to a new city, then reversing its decision after pressure from the league, came in 1996, when the Seattle Seahawks set up operations for one week in Anaheim….
? Wow, i had no idea the Seahawks were the Anaheim Seahawks
for a week. Does anyone remember that ?w
vwvParticipantThis to me is the reason he doesn’t get in. That and the fact he was 1-2 in super bowls.
Oh, i think he’ll get in. His playoff stats will
tip the balance, I think.Plus, there’s the ‘story.’ The Hi-Vee, rags-to-riches
story. People like stories. Stories are nice.I’d put him in based on his performance
in that Miami game, alone 🙂w
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wvParticipantWell, i think az zn said he’s a slow-learner.
Which is one reason why I really wanted an OC
who would stick with the same system.I also agree with RFL that he may show a lot
more if the REST of the offense ever shows up.I dunno if Tavon was worth the 8 pick. We’ll see.
My biggest concern is his hands; he’s got Hakim-hands.It sure would have been nice if those three or four
big plays he’s created hadn’t been called back, though.
Ah well.w
vFebruary 9, 2015 at 1:25 pm in reply to: 101, The Fast Lane: are the Rams all in on Sam Bradford? #18223wvParticipantDunno if they know anything but
they said there is no way the Rams are trading
for Foles.w
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